Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
As I said this would be optional just for tickets where you actually need help of someone who understand that language, for example in Huggle we know C++, but aren't really good with CSS which we need help with as well. There are some tickets that need a look of CSS expert but right now there is no way to point that out. On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Stephen Niedzielski sniedziel...@wikimedia.org wrote: We have a couple templates[0] for reporting bugs in the Android app that would almost always be language-java. I'm sure we could add the appropriate tags when they exist, although it might be a little redundant. On a related note, we've been trying to add the Easy tag where appropriate. --stephen [0] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104086 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) I think a previous step should e to have landing pages for such languages in mediawiki.org, pointing to the main projects and resources related to such languages. Quite often we meet new potential developers that want to contribute but have no strong opinion about where. They do have an opinion about their programming skills, so usually the reply is I can code in this or that language. Once a page like i.e. mw:Java exists and it is linked from the right venues, then it starts making sense to tag Phabricator tasks requiring Java skills, hopefully finding some Easy ones to offer a great search query for whoever might be interested. Related: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91633 (the 'what I can do for...' idea, which at least in the case of Mozilla started by asking you to choose a programming langiage). -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) I think a previous step should e to have landing pages for such languages in mediawiki.org, pointing to the main projects and resources related to such languages. Quite often we meet new potential developers that want to contribute but have no strong opinion about where. They do have an opinion about their programming skills, so usually the reply is I can code in this or that language. Once a page like i.e. mw:Java exists and it is linked from the right venues, then it starts making sense to tag Phabricator tasks requiring Java skills, hopefully finding some Easy ones to offer a great search query for whoever might be interested. Related: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91633 (the 'what I can do for...' idea, which at least in the case of Mozilla started by asking you to choose a programming langiage). -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
We have a couple templates[0] for reporting bugs in the Android app that would almost always be language-java. I'm sure we could add the appropriate tags when they exist, although it might be a little redundant. On a related note, we've been trying to add the Easy tag where appropriate. --stephen [0] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104086 On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) I think a previous step should e to have landing pages for such languages in mediawiki.org, pointing to the main projects and resources related to such languages. Quite often we meet new potential developers that want to contribute but have no strong opinion about where. They do have an opinion about their programming skills, so usually the reply is I can code in this or that language. Once a page like i.e. mw:Java exists and it is linked from the right venues, then it starts making sense to tag Phabricator tasks requiring Java skills, hopefully finding some Easy ones to offer a great search query for whoever might be interested. Related: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91633 (the 'what I can do for...' idea, which at least in the case of Mozilla started by asking you to choose a programming langiage). -- Quim Gil Engineering Community Manager @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
Asking of stackoverflow to resolve a phabricator task is same as asking there to do your homework. How is CSS not common amongst MediaWiki, did something change recently? :P On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Gergo Tisza gti...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) which could be optionally added to some tickets if help of people who know these languages would be needed. So that it would be possible for example to c++ experts to filter out open tasks that need c++ expert to look in them and so on? Currently I have few of such tasks that I would like to have experts in some language to look at, but there isn't really an easy way to do that. What you think? Should we add these meta-projects? Having a tag does not make experts magically find the task, especially for languages wich are relatively uncommon amongst MediaWiki devs. IMO it's more practical to ask on StackOverflow or ##c++ or some other forum that's specifically a gathering place for language experts. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 3:04 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote: What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) which could be optionally added to some tickets if help of people who know these languages would be needed. So that it would be possible for example to c++ experts to filter out open tasks that need c++ expert to look in them and so on? Currently I have few of such tasks that I would like to have experts in some language to look at, but there isn't really an easy way to do that. What you think? Should we add these meta-projects? Having a tag does not make experts magically find the task, especially for languages wich are relatively uncommon amongst MediaWiki devs. IMO it's more practical to ask on StackOverflow or ##c++ or some other forum that's specifically a gathering place for language experts. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
On Fri, 2015-07-17 at 10:04 +0200, Petr Bena wrote: What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) which could be optionally added to some tickets if help of people who know these languages would be needed. So that it would be possible for example to c++ experts to filter out open tasks that need c++ expert to look in them and so on? Currently I have few of such tasks that I would like to have experts in some language to look at, but there isn't really an easy way to do that. What you think? Should we add these meta-projects? If there was enough shared interest to add such tags, they should have a naming format need-XYZ-help or such. Whenever a new tag is created, you need to raise awareness so 1) tasks actually gets tagged and 2) people get to know they are supposed to search for such tags. Communicating to your target group, maybe. A tag language-php would not imply it's optional. Searching for tasks under a project/tag, I'd expect results not to be optional results. Cheers, andre -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) which could be optionally added to some tickets if help of people who know these languages would be needed. So that it would be possible for example to c++ experts to filter out open tasks that need c++ expert to look in them and so on? Currently I have few of such tasks that I would like to have experts in some language to look at, but there isn't really an easy way to do that. What you think? Should we add these meta-projects? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
You can already infer some languages from the project: Pywikibot → Python, Hierator → Java etc. And nearly any other one will have language-php then. But for C++ it might still make sense. Il 17/07/2015 10:04, Petr Bena ha scritto: Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) which could be optionally added to some tickets if help of people who know these languages would be needed. So that it would be possible for example to c++ experts to filter out open tasks that need c++ expert to look in them and so on? Currently I have few of such tasks that I would like to have experts in some language to look at, but there isn't really an easy way to do that. What you think? Should we add these meta-projects? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Phabricator filter by language
That's not useful at all. What is I wanted to filter out all tickets that need some python expert to look at them? How is knowledge that pywikibot uses python good for that? I don't need this per project, but per ticket. For example I need a CSS expert to look at some ticket of huggle, which is a C++ project. I would happily flag it need-css-expert or whatever but there is no option for that. Also if I was an expert in some expert, I would like to be able to filter out tickets made by people who need me :P On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Ricordisamoa ricordisa...@openmailbox.org wrote: You can already infer some languages from the project: Pywikibot → Python, Hierator → Java etc. And nearly any other one will have language-php then. But for C++ it might still make sense. Il 17/07/2015 10:04, Petr Bena ha scritto: Hi, What if we added extra projects to phabricator for programming languages (such as language-php, language-c) which could be optionally added to some tickets if help of people who know these languages would be needed. So that it would be possible for example to c++ experts to filter out open tasks that need c++ expert to look in them and so on? Currently I have few of such tasks that I would like to have experts in some language to look at, but there isn't really an easy way to do that. What you think? Should we add these meta-projects? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
