Re: [Wikitech-l] Search engine indexing of userspace - has something changed?

2015-07-07 Thread Petr Kadlec
Hi

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:35 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking closely this meta tag is present in user pages:
 meta name=robots content=noindex,follow

 but not present in that particular sub page [1].
 I haven't had time to investigate further but please raise a phabricator
 task.

 [1]
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nobleeagle/India_as_an_emerging_superpower


You are not looking into userspace. The user page has been moved into the
mainspace a few days ago, and has been a redirect since. [2] The mobile
view seems not to indicate the fact you were redirected at all.

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[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Nobleeagle/India_as_an_emerging_superpoweraction=history
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Search engine indexing of userspace - has something changed?

2015-07-06 Thread Steven Walling
FWIW I have also seen many cases of userspace drafts being indexed. Perhaps
something to do with the fact that they are always subpages?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:35 AM Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like a bug

 Looking closely this meta tag is present in user pages:
 meta name=robots content=noindex,follow

 but not present in that particular sub page [1].
 I haven't had time to investigate further but please raise a phabricator
 task.

 [1]
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nobleeagle/India_as_an_emerging_superpower

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
  Hello!
 
  In this thread
  
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Userpage_drafts_shown_in_search_engines
 ,
  there was a discussion about indexing of user space by search engines.
 In a
  nutshell, user space pages are not subject to content policies so that
  users can write drafts freely, and having those pages indexed by search
  engines like Google is viewed as problematic since those pages can seem
  fairly official.
 
  I seem to recall that it was not the default in the past that user pages
  were indexed by search engines. I'm trying to figure out if there's some
  other cause for this that's happened recently, because I'd prefer to
 avoid
  piling hacks on and not address the root issue.
 
  Does anyone know of anything that's changed recently that might've
 changed
  the way that search engines index user space?
 
  Thanks,
  Dan
 
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Search engine indexing of userspace - has something changed?

2015-07-06 Thread Jon Robson
Looks like a bug

Looking closely this meta tag is present in user pages:
meta name=robots content=noindex,follow

but not present in that particular sub page [1].
I haven't had time to investigate further but please raise a phabricator task.

[1] 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nobleeagle/India_as_an_emerging_superpower

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Dan Garry dga...@wikimedia.org wrote:
 Hello!

 In this thread
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Userpage_drafts_shown_in_search_engines,
 there was a discussion about indexing of user space by search engines. In a
 nutshell, user space pages are not subject to content policies so that
 users can write drafts freely, and having those pages indexed by search
 engines like Google is viewed as problematic since those pages can seem
 fairly official.

 I seem to recall that it was not the default in the past that user pages
 were indexed by search engines. I'm trying to figure out if there's some
 other cause for this that's happened recently, because I'd prefer to avoid
 piling hacks on and not address the root issue.

 Does anyone know of anything that's changed recently that might've changed
 the way that search engines index user space?

 Thanks,
 Dan

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[Wikitech-l] Search engine indexing of userspace - has something changed?

2015-07-06 Thread Dan Garry
Hello!

In this thread
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Userpage_drafts_shown_in_search_engines,
there was a discussion about indexing of user space by search engines. In a
nutshell, user space pages are not subject to content policies so that
users can write drafts freely, and having those pages indexed by search
engines like Google is viewed as problematic since those pages can seem
fairly official.

I seem to recall that it was not the default in the past that user pages
were indexed by search engines. I'm trying to figure out if there's some
other cause for this that's happened recently, because I'd prefer to avoid
piling hacks on and not address the root issue.

Does anyone know of anything that's changed recently that might've changed
the way that search engines index user space?

Thanks,
Dan

-- 
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Product Manager, Discovery
Wikimedia Foundation
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