Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-16 Thread Petr Bena
I made [[mediawiki:Test_wikis]] feel free to improve it and link to that page from everywhere possible where people might be looking for this On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case someone thinks otherwise, none of my doubts has been

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-15 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Just in case someone thinks otherwise, none of my doubts has been addressed. The point is what Helder stressed, and a lot of work is needed to reduce confusion. Nemo ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-07 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Now that 1.19 deploy has been completed, it seems a good idea to discuss about our test wikis. I see the following problems: * No inventory of test wikis exist. There are many and they don't follow any pattern or rule of sort (see appendix). * It's unclear what purpose those wikis have, in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-07 Thread K. Peachey
* labs.wikimedia are the old old old labs/test projects, These are no longer (and any that still wanted - wmflabs) * prototype.wikimedia are oldish test setups, and most should be moved to wmflabs if still wanted *.wmflabs.org are instances hosted on our Labs setup[1] which is our virtuazlization

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-07 Thread Petr Bena
In fact most of the old test wikis are going to be replaced by wmflabs wikis. I don't know which rules you want to set. These are test wikis and people are supposed to do tests there. I see no need for any rules. All test wikis we have which can be accessed are of course useable by regular users,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-07 Thread Ryan Lane
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:28 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Now that 1.19 deploy has been completed, it seems a good idea to discuss about our test wikis. I see the following problems: * No inventory of test wikis exist. There are many and they don't follow any pattern or

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-07 Thread K. Peachey
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: All of these are going away. something.labs.wikimedia.org have already been closed. I'd *love* to delete them permanently, but we have no reasonable means of doing so in the production cluster. We have done it before, But that

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-07 Thread Helder
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 04:28, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: * It's unclear what purpose those wikis have, in particular: if they're permanent, or going to be deleted; if used only by developers or also open to generic testing by users or even as sandboxes/playgrounds (let's see

Re: [Wikitech-l] Too many random test wikis

2012-04-07 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 04/07/2012 03:28 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Now that 1.19 deploy has been completed, it seems a good idea to discuss about our test wikis. Federico did this survey and mentioned it to me, and I asked him to put it somewhere public. So now we have a list of all the test wikis that we