Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikigrok code no longer being worked on

2015-06-01 Thread Bahodir Mansurov
There is a patch to disable it from production wikis [1], but I’m not sure 
about other testing wikis or when we should un-deploy it.

[1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/215109/ 


> On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Legoktm  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 06/01/2015 11:57 AM, Jon Katz wrote:
>> *TLDR:* Wikigrok proved that readers are interested in and capable of
>> making casual, mobile contributions to Wikipedia. We are putting
>> continued development of the 'Wikigrok' casual contribution feature on
>> hold until we have a plan for optimally harnessing this interest/capability.
>> 
> 
> Given that the extension is still deployed, what is the maintenance plan
> for this extension? We already have a large amount of unmaintained code
> deployed, so why isn't it being fully undeployed until people are ready
> to commit resources and work on it again?
> 
> -- Legoktm
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikigrok code no longer being worked on

2015-06-01 Thread Legoktm
Hi,

On 06/01/2015 11:57 AM, Jon Katz wrote:
> *TLDR:* Wikigrok proved that readers are interested in and capable of
> making casual, mobile contributions to Wikipedia. We are putting
> continued development of the 'Wikigrok' casual contribution feature on
> hold until we have a plan for optimally harnessing this interest/capability.
> 

Given that the extension is still deployed, what is the maintenance plan
for this extension? We already have a large amount of unmaintained code
deployed, so why isn't it being fully undeployed until people are ready
to commit resources and work on it again?

-- Legoktm

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[Wikitech-l] Wikigrok code no longer being worked on

2015-06-01 Thread Jon Katz
Hi,

*TLDR:* Wikigrok proved that readers are interested in and capable of
making casual, mobile contributions to Wikipedia. We are putting continued
development of the 'Wikigrok' casual contribution feature on hold until we
have a plan for optimally harnessing this interest/capability.

*Background*
Given the growth of mobile traffic on wikipedia and the challenges inherent
to traditional editing on a mobile device, Wikigrok was proposed as a way
to test if regular wikipedia readers would be interested in making smaller,
more casual contributions to wikimedia projects while reading Wikipedia on
a mobile device.

*Results*
By early 2015, the results were in: readers were relatively interested in
engaging with the feature[1].  Some oft-quoted comparisons include:

   - 3x the number of unique responders as mobile editors during test
   period (4.5K editors, 12.3K WikiGrokkers), even with WG on sample of
   articles & users
   - 1.5x better clickthrough than 2014 Fundraising full-screen mobile
   banner

(I actually do not have references for these, as they are borrowed quotes)
Furthermore, we found that the quality of responses was rather high [2,3].

*Future*
The original thought was to use these responses to fill in gaps in Wikidata
and our initial test results (2 weeks worth) were successfully ported over
in late April [4]. However, in order to production-ize the system, we would
have to:

   1. scale and develop queries against the new wikidata query service
   2. create an article parser to identify potential multiple choice
   answers for each question
   3. create a system for attributing aggregated results to the specific
   contributors (per Wikidata bot request discussion[5])

None of these are unsurpassable, but we have learned a great deal and, at
this stage, we believe that further effort should be devoted to evaluating
areas of need and fit before we commit additional efforts to specifically
porting information into Wikidata.

Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions or concerns about
this decision.
Best,

Jon

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:WikiGrok/Test2
[2] Quality of responses, version A:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:All_Campagins,_Scatterplot,_version_(a).pdf
[3] Quality of responses, version B:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/File:All_Campaigns,_Scatterplot,_version_(b).pdf
[4] *https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/WikiGrok?limit=500
*
[5]
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/WikiGrok
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