I agree with most of the use cases, and I think they will possible with
Wikidata.
My suggestion would be to wait for this year, and then see which of the use
cases are still open: I think that by the end of the year we should have
made all of them possible (besides the Searches might be more than
2013/5/9 Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com
From what I hear wikidata phase 3 is going to basically be support for
inline queries. Details are vauge but if they support the typical types of
queries you associate with semantic networks - there is category
intersection right there.
Right.
If
On 05/09/2013 03:49 PM, James Forrester wrote:
On 9 May 2013 12:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
So yeah, whatever we use to add tags needs to be able to add citations
as well, right there next to the tag.
Well, to me that's an even more compelling reason create such a system
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote:
On 09.05.2013 20:28, Brad Jorsch wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM, James Forrester
jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote:
* Pages are implicitly in the parent categories of their explicit
categories
* - Pages in
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM, James Forrester
jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote:
* Pages are implicitly in the parent categories of their explicit categories
* - Pages in Politicians from the Netherlands are in People from the
Netherlands by profession (its first parent) and People from the
[I worry we're talking about operational details, which should be a wider
discussion, rather than a technology/feasibility conversation to which this
list is more suited. Perhaps moving this on-wiki would be best?]
On 9 May 2013 09:28, Brad Jorsch bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, May 8,
Without deliberately making it an even longer term plan, as I think it is a
great idea, another long goal solution to the same problem would be (as
Flow gets Wikipedians into the idea of tagging) that categories get largely
replaced by tags. That way they lose much of their absoluteness and
On 2013-05-09 3:21 PM, Luke Welling WMF lwell...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Without deliberately making it an even longer term plan, as I think it is
a
great idea, another long goal solution to the same problem would be (as
Flow gets Wikipedians into the idea of tagging) that categories get
largely
On 9 May 2013 12:07, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Nobody has ever been able to explain to me the technical difference between
tag and category. (Other than being able to query intersections, which is
wanted for cats anyhow)
The theory is that tags are non-hierarchical,
On 2013-05-09 4:13 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 9 May 2013 12:07, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote:
Nobody has ever been able to explain to me the technical difference
between
tag and category. (Other than being able to query intersections, which
is
wanted for
On 9 May 2013 19:21, Luke Welling WMF lwell...@wikimedia.org wrote:
With tags, a biography could relatively uncontroversially be tagged as
Novelist, Woman, Best Selling, American, Blonde Haired, Enjoys Spicy Food
even if nearly everybody agrees that half the tags while true are entirely
On 9 May 2013 12:40, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
So yeah, whatever we use to add tags needs to be able to add citations
as well, right there next to the tag.
Well, to me that's an even more compelling reason create such a system
(Categories as-is don't have them): WikiTags let you
On 05/09/2013 03:07 PM, Brian Wolff wrote:
Just change mediawiki:pagecategories to tags and change some social
conventions - boom you have tags.
Just a reminder - customs and assumptions are sometimes harder to change
than digital or physical environments.
--
Sumana Harihareswara
Engineering
On 09.05.2013 20:28, Brad Jorsch wrote:
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM, James Forrester
jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote:
* Pages are implicitly in the parent categories of their explicit categories
* - Pages in Politicians from the Netherlands are in People from the
Netherlands by profession
Dmitriy, yes, and that's the point - in practice Wikipedia categories
are not transitive.
We've been working on this slowly at pl.wp lately, trying to split the
categories into two kinds marked with appropriate templates: topic
categories, including all related entries, e.g. Category:Water; and
Recently a lot of people have been talking about what's possible and
what's necessary regarding MediaWiki, CatScan-like tools, and real
category intersection; this mail has some pointers.
The long-term solution is a sparkly query for, e.g., people with aspects
novelist + Singaporean, and it would
On 8 May 2013 18:26, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recently a lot of people have been talking about what's possible and
what's necessary regarding MediaWiki, CatScan-like tools, and real
category intersection; this mail has some pointers.
The long-term solution is a
On 2013-05-08 11:48 PM, James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 8 May 2013 18:26, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Recently a lot of people have been talking about what's possible and
what's necessary regarding MediaWiki, CatScan-like tools, and real
category
On 05/09/2013 12:13 AM, Brian Wolff wrote:
Between wikipedias or all wikimedia wikis... category structure has varried
meaning between projects. Category:North_America has different types of
pages in enwikinews compared to enwikipedia.
Right. It would have to be grouped by top-level project
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