Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-30 Thread Tomasz Finc
Lots of great discussion and ideas here. Who's up for taking this on as a challenge or mentoring someone to do it? --tomasz On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: I think generally user's expectation (and imho desirable behaviour in general[1]) is that logging

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-23 Thread Chris Steipp
On Tuesday, July 22, 2014, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Chris Steipp wrote: I think this should be managed similar to https-- a site preference, and users can override the site config with a user preference. Please no. There's been a dedicated effort in 2014 to reduce the number of

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-23 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 16/07/2014 03:52, Jon Robson a écrit : (Forked from Re: [Wikitech-l] Not logged in page) Is it time to revisit this behaviour? It's come up as being a usability problem a few times now. Currently if I log out of a public computer it logs me out of my tablet device,mobile device and

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-23 Thread Krinkle
I think generally user's expectation (and imho desirable behaviour in general[1]) is that logging out one session, does not affect other sessions. However I think it's a valid use case to be able to invalidate other sessions remotely (e.g. you lost control over the device or it's inconvenient

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-22 Thread Chris Steipp
Cool. My $.02 on the feature, I think this should be managed similar to https-- a site preference, and users can override the site config with a user preference. I'd prefer if we could make the site preference (logout all sessions, or logout only the current session) to be configurable, so we can

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-22 Thread MZMcBride
Chris Steipp wrote: I think this should be managed similar to https-- a site preference, and users can override the site config with a user preference. Please no. There's been a dedicated effort in 2014 to reduce the number of user preferences. They're costly to maintain and they typically

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Jon Robson
It seems like there is agreement on an approach As I understand it: * special button that when clicked logs you out everywhere * default behaviour is just to log you out on current device Does anyone want to own this and help move it forward? I've got too many things on my plate right now, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Tyler Romeo
0x405D34A7C86B42DF From: Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com Reply: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: July 21, 2014 at 14:35:54 To: Wikimedia developers wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject:  Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere It seems like

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like there is agreement on an approach As I understand it: * special button that when clicked logs you out everywhere * default behaviour is just to log you out on current device Where would this log me out of

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Risker
On 21 July 2014 15:14, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: It seems like there is agreement on an approach As I understand it: * special button that when clicked logs you out everywhere * default

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Jon Robson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogout might be an obvious place (closest to the action)... although not sure how discoverable. Do you want to logout everywhere YES NO [] Remember this decision It seems like we could split this into 2 features though in the interest of getting things

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Ricordisamoa
Il 21/07/2014 22:20, Jon Robson ha scritto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogout might be an obvious place (closest to the action)... although not sure how discoverable. Do you want to logout everywhere YES NO [] Remember this decision It seems like we could split this into 2

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Steven Walling
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogout might be an obvious place (closest to the action)... although not sure how discoverable. Do you want to logout everywhere YES NO [] Remember this decision It seems like we

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-21 Thread Jon Robson
Sounds good. Adding design mailing list. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogout might be an obvious place (closest to the action)...

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-16 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Jasper Deng jas...@jasperswebsite.com wrote: I'd prefer that we did Google's system that, in addition to allowing a separate sign out all other sessions option, also allows users to monitor which IP addresses their account was accessed from (which however

[Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-15 Thread Jon Robson
(Forked from Re: [Wikitech-l] Not logged in page) Is it time to revisit this behaviour? It's come up as being a usability problem a few times now. Currently if I log out of a public computer it logs me out of my tablet device,mobile device and home computer. :( See bug for reference [1] [1]

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-15 Thread Steven Walling
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: (Forked from Re: [Wikitech-l] Not logged in page) Is it time to revisit this behaviour? It's come up as being a usability problem a few times now. Currently if I log out of a public computer it logs me out of my tablet

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-15 Thread Risker
On 15 July 2014 22:28, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: (Forked from Re: [Wikitech-l] Not logged in page) Is it time to revisit this behaviour? It's come up as being a usability problem a few times now.

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-15 Thread Isarra Yos
On 16/07/14 02:50, Risker wrote: On 15 July 2014 22:28, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, July 15, 2014, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: (Forked from Re: [Wikitech-l] Not logged in page) Is it time to revisit this behaviour? It's come up as being a usability

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-15 Thread Jasper Deng
I've actually found this to be a rather big pet peeve of mine w/ CentralAuth over the years. It would seem that logging out in CentralAuth means deleting everything in the cache with the user's info in it. I'd prefer that we did Google's system that, in addition to allowing a separate sign out

Re: [Wikitech-l] logging out on one device logs user out everywhere

2014-07-15 Thread Greg Grossmeier
quote name=Jasper Deng date=2014-07-15 time=21:50:18 -0700 I'd prefer that we did Google's system that, in addition to allowing a separate sign out all other sessions option, also allows users to monitor which IP addresses their account was accessed from (which however would be akin to self