[Wikitech-l] Why does the train start on Tuesday?

2021-06-22 Thread Jon Robson
Hi all A few questions to provoke discussion/share knowledge better: * Why does the train run Tue,Wed, Thur rather than Mon,Tue,Wed * Why do we only have 2 group 1 Wikipedia's (Catalan and Hebrew) * Should there be a backport window Friday mornings for certain changes? Longer spiel: A few weeks

[Wikitech-l] Security pre-release announcement: 1.31.15 / 1.35.3 / 1.36.1

2021-06-22 Thread Sam Reed
Hi all, Tomorrow we will be issuing a security and maintenance release to all supported branches of MediaWiki. The new releases will be: - 1.31.15 - 1.35.3 - 1.36.1 This will resolve 1 minor issue in MediaWiki core and also includes some fixes previously committed to git, including minor

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

2021-06-22 Thread Jon Robson
Thanks for all the input so far. On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 2:41 PM Amir Sarabadani wrote: > Jon, I think you're misunderstanding the point of the "No Deployment on > Friday" policy. > I don't think I'm misunderstanding the policy? I'm talking explicitly about high priority issues UI regressions,

[Wikitech-l] Re: How to get alerts on errors for cron jobs on toolforge

2021-06-22 Thread Sam Wilson
I think the only way is to have your cronjob do the emailing of the output, and then delete (or move) the output file so it's not repeated on the next run. Something like: #!/bin/bash ## Call actual job script here. ./do-tool-things.sh ## Email output to maintainers. echo -e 'Subject:

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

2021-06-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
‫בתאריך יום ג׳, 22 ביוני 2021 ב-23:04 מאת ‪Jon Robson‬‏ <‪ jrob...@wikimedia.org‬‏>:‬ > Hi all > > A few questions to provoke discussion/share knowledge better: > * Why does the train run Tue,Wed, Thur rather than Mon,Tue,Wed > * Why do we only have 2 group 1 Wikipedia's (Catalan and Hebrew) >

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

2021-06-22 Thread Bill Pirkle
I'm not a train conductor, and I don't know anything about the decision-making process that went into the current train schedule. But I'll note that Mondays tend to be observed as holidays, which could cause complications for train scheduling. By my quick count from officewiki, there are 9 US

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

2021-06-22 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Jon, I think you're misunderstanding the point of the "No Deployment on Friday" policy. Let's look from far, Why is a work day a no-deploy day? Why are we limiting ourselves to a four-day week while we can use our full potential? The reason is that if we deploy something to production on Friday

[Wikitech-l] Thank you Tuesday

2021-06-22 Thread Amir Sarabadani
Hi, Lots of people thanked me for deploying mailman3 but I want to mention that it would have not been possible without Wikimedia Cloud Services team giving a lot of resources to me so I could have a test setup and puppetize mailman3 easily which in turn made deployment to production much easier.

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

2021-06-22 Thread Scott Bassett
On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 3:03 PM Jon Robson wrote: > A few questions to provoke discussion/share knowledge better: > * Why does the train run Tue,Wed, Thur rather than Mon,Tue,Wed > I'd note here that the standard security deployment window is Monday between 21:00 and 23:00 UTC. That date and

[Wikitech-l] Re: Why does the train start on Tuesday?

2021-06-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
> Regarding Catalan and Hebrew Wikipedia, the other Amir said it well, I don't think I have much to add beside the fact that I have personally seen them finding major issues before they hit all Wikipedia languages many times, more than I can count. > > Apologies if I didn't make myself clear, but

[Wikitech-l] How to get alerts on errors for cron jobs on toolforge

2021-06-22 Thread Shrinivasan T
Hello all, I have a bot at toolforge, running weekly once in cron job using "jsub" Followed the below link for the setup. https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Pywikibot Getting the JOBNAME.out and JOBNAME.err files at the home folder. Is there any other way like email