On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM, C. Scott Ananian
canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
- The interaction between ResourceLoader and @import seems a bit
under-defined. [...] It would be nice to have a
concrete written guideline for how MW authors are expected to use @import
and/or better integrate
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:19 PM, C. Scott Ananian canan...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
@dan: the particular less isn't very powerful issues I'm concerned about
are the ones solved by compass. As is well-known, there is no equivalent
to compass for less, and is not likely every to be, since less can
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Ok, we've had another round of review and updates, and it sounds like
people are pretty content with the functionality and the conventions we're
coming up with around LESS usage; and I don't hear many strong objections.
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Brion Vibber bvib...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Ok, I have landed:
* https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/78669 (core LESS support)
* https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/85143/ (.background-image embedding
helper function)
Any further tweaks needed on the core
Chris and Zeljko were awesome mentors, and I learned a great deal from
them about Quality Assurance and automation. :D
I enjoyed reading your posts, Rachel -- I hope you keep writing
contributing to open source projects.
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On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Željko Filipin zfili...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
Hi Ori,
Is there a reason for having Guest Additions Version 4.1.12 in the VM
instead of 4.2?
It's what Canonical's Vagrant image provides, and it's because that's the
version that is packaged for Precise.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 10/01/2013 11:11 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:
Question for the group:
Would an officially supported general-purpose MediaWiki hosting service be
useful to people who would like to run wikis, but don't have the time,
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On 10/01/2013 11:11 AM, Brion Vibber wrote:
Question for the group:
Would an officially supported general-purpose MediaWiki hosting service
be
useful
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Isarra Yos zhoris...@gmail.com wrote:
Wikia is dinky? ShoutWiki is antiquated? I don't necessarily disagree with
your overall point, but please don't generalise like this; an innacurate
statement like that just takes away from it.
Ok, fair point.
encouraged.
Thanks to Timo Roan for helping this along.
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On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
This is interesting Ori - thanks for sharing this / setting it up.
Thanks for checking it out!
Sorry to pick on this example in particular but I was surprised to see
so much code for the Universal Language selector (ULS)
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Eran Rosenthal eranro...@gmail.comwrote:
Nice feature, thanks!
1. I tried to use it in ?debug=1 mode, and it seems to give 0 size to many
modules.
Yep -- already filed as https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3.
I'll fix it.
2. It would be
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
I know close to nothing about this, but I'm kind of interested in finding
out. Would it be possible to $('little language toothed wheel
thing').on('click', load something like jquery.uls.data)? That would
. Be sure to share your discoveries with this list.
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Running mw.loader.inspect('css') in a JavaScript console will now
report CSS stats for each active ResourceLoader style module,
including the total count of selectors and the percentage of those
that match some node in the current DOM.
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which may go unnoticed in
normal use. This principle applies both to the outward appearance of
the protection mechanism and to its underlying implementation.
(The Protection of Information in Computer Systems,
http://web.mit.edu/Saltzer/www/publications/protection/Basic.html)
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Dan Andreescu dandree...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I don't think the idea here was to ever make the stack traces *safe*,
just to redact the most obvious things to reduce the risk if someone
carelessly posts a stack trace publicly.
Personally, I think the Java model
stable enough for production use, we'll seek to asses
its utility by running a controlled study of some kind. If we can
demonstrate that module storage leads to a significant improvement in
performance, we'll enable by it default.
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If this drives you barking mad too, fix it. Should be doable by
injecting a bit of code here:
http://git.wikimedia.org/blob/integration%2Fzuul.git/ac3ba4fe9f9dace5673a6537ef0d3ccf5a054ac7/zuul%2Fmerger.py#L71
I will personally build a statue in your honor
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF)
smazel...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I recall someone on IRC (Bartosz or Tyler?) saying they have a python (?)
script to make this work in their local repo, but not knowing how to get it
in the server.
That's Bartosz's tool:
with some versions of the webkit/chrome
inspector for localStorage due to this, it is being tracked here:
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123750
Thank you for doing that.
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On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:
tl;dr: I’d appreciate thoughts from the Wikimedia technical community
at large whether the designation of individual technical contributors
as architects should be meaningful, and if so, how to expand it
beyond the original
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
How can I test it?
--
Glad you asked! Module storage is enabled by default on the beta
cluster, and on test test2 wikis.
It's also enabled on MediaWiki.org now, the last such wiki before
doing performance
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi,
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Architecture_meetings/RFC_review_2013-11-06
We just finished the meeting, and you can find the notes at
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:47 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Several updates were made recently in the UniversalLanguageSelector
extension to improve its performance.
Fantastic! :-) Thank you for all of the work you and others have done to
address this.
://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/94690/
[1]: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56840
[2]: http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/Special:Allpages
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On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote:
Just don't tell me that the 6th most popular website on Earth don't do
any load testing! Maybe I don't understand the process and you test
the software in a completely different way?
We load-test by having a staggered
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@nichework.com
wrote:
Hrm... I should probably go ask them about that. But I'm curious about
your perspective and to see if we have any information on the bandwidth
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi,
There are two ways of enabling this Wikidata search functionality; Wiki
wide and personally. It is done by adding this one line to common.js..
importScriptURI(//
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I am somewhat concerned about the implications for JS debugging here.
Debugging JS problems with the live sites is already pretty complicated:
1. debug=true won't reproduce some bugs (usually race condition related)
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote:
I am somewhat concerned about the implications for JS debugging here.
Debugging JS problems with the live sites is already pretty complicated:
1
of that.
It's definitely worth a shot. Let's run another short experiment to compare
the two.
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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Petr Bena benap...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Huggle 3 is slowly getting near to first release, and I have yet set
up some built environment for early beta versions. 1 for windows on
one of my own windows boxens (using NSIS and MinGW) which I use to
release beta
Paul Tarjan, whose recent
packaging work makes this possible.
[0]: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/105834/
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On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Niklas Laxström
niklas.laxst...@gmail.comwrote:
Do you know where I can find these hhvm-nightly packages if I want to
try them out on my own?
Last time I tested hhvm on translatewiki.net, there were fastcgi
parameter passing problems which blocked further
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote:
* The drop occurred because ResourceLoaderLanguageDataModule had a bug
in its mtime computation, causing it to recache all the time; module
storage greatly dampened the impact of that bug.
This is true, and it was a
Core's unit tests are passing integration tests on Travis CI under the
latest release of HHVM:
https://travis-ci.org/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/builds/18445085
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On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Philip Neustrom phi...@localwiki.orgwrote:
The latest Snowden docs have some great screenshots of the NSA-internal
MediaWiki installation Snowden is alleged to have obtained a lot of his
material from:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm starting a new RFC to discuss ways we can improve our PHP profiling.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Better_PHP_profiling
Please feel free to help expand and/or comment on the talk page if you've
Vagrant Cloud is a new service from Hashicorp that strives to make it easy
to share Vagrant boxes and to collaborate on provisioned instances
together. It's in very early beta, but I have started poking around a
little, and it looks interesting. I don't quite know yet how it will work
with our
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Niklas Laxström
niklas.laxst...@gmail.comwrote:
There have recently been questions whether WMF is able to serve
webfonts. Some people think that because of the issues that led to
disabling webfonts by default in Universal Language Selector (ULS),
WMF is not
Hi! This is a quick heads-up about the status of HHVM migration, and what
the MediaWiki Core team is working on.
There are three challenges that we have to solve before we can run HHVM in
production:
* We need good packages. The packages provided by Facebook have some deep
issues that need to be
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Erwin Dokter er...@darcoury.nl wrote:
On 08-04-2014 00:45, Steven Walling wrote:
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote:
I noticed from Kaldari's notes [1] that Open sans was rejected based
on language support and install base.
I just stumbled across https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/pull/19,
a small but useful contribution to core from an HHVM developer. It has gone
unnoticed for two months, which is a bit sad.
Is there a way to accept pull-requests from GitHub? According to
Hi,
Gerrit change Id819246a9 proposes an implementation for a recent changes
stream broadcast via socket.io, an abstraction layer over WebSockets that
also provides long polling as a fallback for older browsers. Comment on
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/131040/ or the mailing list.
Thanks,
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote:
Just wondering, but has any performance testing been done on different
socket.io implementations? IIRC, Python is pretty good, so I definitely
approve, but I'm wondering if there are other implementations are are more
Vagrant 1.6 changed the order of steps Vagrant performs on initialization:
it now evaluates the project's Vagrantfile after loading plugins and
parsing command-line arguments. This means that the various subcommands
provide for role management no longer work, since the relevant plugins are
loaded
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
Vagrant 1.6 changed the order of steps Vagrant performs on initialization:
it now evaluates the project's Vagrantfile after loading plugins and
parsing command-line arguments. This means that the various subcommands
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Bryan Davis bd...@wikimedia.org wrote:
All in all it felt like a very fruitful hack session, and we're closer
than ever to having a ready-to-go developer instance that mimics our
production environment. Big thanks to everyone involved in making our
work
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.comwrote:
tl;dr Let's start putting all skins files in a single directory, and let's
use a grown-up structure with one class per file + separate init code for
them. Okay?
Sounds good to me. I agree with Tyler that there's
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Rainer Rillke rainerril...@hotmail.comwrote:
As some people do not care a lot for beta features or new features, do
not read the mailing lists and overlook main discussion forums or are
just unable to understand English, they were surprised and confused and
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi, I'm getting some 404 errors consistently when trying to load some
English Wikipedia articles. Other pages load ok. Did something break?
TL;DR: A package update went badly.
Nitty-gritty postmortem:
At 20:25 (all
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:37 PM, James HK jamesin.hongkon...@gmail.com
wrote:
That is just the unfortunate truth. We are
not going to misuse libraries and hack together MediaWiki just so
extension
installation can be *slightly* easier.
This sort of behaviour towards non-WMF extension
I'm writing to communicate an upcoming major change in MediaWiki-Vagrant.
In the coming week, I'm going to upgrade the base image from Precise
Pangolin to Trusty Tahr, the latest version from Canonical. Trusty
integrates many new open-source software components, many of them
specifically targeting
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
I'm writing to communicate an upcoming major change in MediaWiki-Vagrant.
In the coming week, I'm going to upgrade the base image from Precise
Pangolin to Trusty Tahr, the latest version from Canonical.
This just landed
(Apologies for cross-posting.)
We've been noticing an issue with lock-ups on the beta cluster application
servers for the past few days. It happens about once or twice a day.
It just happened again on both application servers, and I'd really like to
try and get to the bottom of things this time.
(apologies for cross-posting)
On either Thursday or Friday of this week, Giuseppe Lavagetto (of the
Wikimedia TechOps team) and I are planning to migrate
https://test.wikipedia.org/ (testwiki) to HHVM. The way testwiki is
configured makes it a natural next step on the path leading from the Beta
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On either Thursday or Friday of this week, Giuseppe Lavagetto (of the
Wikimedia TechOps team) and I are planning to migrate
https://test.wikipedia.org/ (testwiki) to HHVM. [snipped]
{{done
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Giuseppe Lavagetto glavage...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
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On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org
mailto:o...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On either Thursday
Hello,
Here's a quick status update about the rollout of HHVM.
* Since migrating test.wikipedia.org to HHVM exactly one week ago, we've
had just one segfault (reported upstream:
https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/3438). That's very good.
* Giuseppe shared some benchmarks in an e-mail to
Kevin Israel (User:PleaseStand) now has +2 in mediawiki/core, following a
successful nomination by MZMcBride[1]. Congratulations! :)
[1]:
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gerrit/Project_ownershipoldid=1072656
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the same as when you read them, and their
changes show up as they type enter them — like writing a document in a
word processor. Please let us know what you think[1].
This is very exciting. Congratulations, VE team!
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Announcing “Open Sauce,” free unlimited testing for Open Source projects:
http://sauceio.com/index.php/2012/12/announcing-open-sauce-free-unlimited-testing-accounts-for-oss-projects/
This should make it easier for anyone to make use of
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and assign users to a bucket or test condition as part of
testing.
Dario
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Kevin Israel wrote:
On 12/18/2012 03:28 PM, Tyler Romeo wrote:
1) This I have no idea about, but it's definitely not in the core, because
my test wiki doesn't set
://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specificproduct=MediaWikicontent=krenair%40gmail.com
* http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Krenair
Please consider weighing in.
Thanks,
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the ContentHandler API to be useful and extensible, and would be happy
to be approached on IRC or whatever with questions.
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On Saturday, January 12, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
On 12.01.2013 20:14, Ori Livneh wrote:
ContentHandler powers the Schema: namespace on metawiki, with the relevant
code residing in Extension:EventLogging. Here's an example:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki
On Saturday, January 12, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Ori Livneh wrote:
for all textual content types it's better to extend WikitextContent /
WikitextContentHandler
(I meant to write TextContent and TextContentHandler.)
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On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Bawolff Bawolff wrote:
Good work to everyone involved!
-bawolff
On 2013-01-22 6:53 PM, Ct Woo ct...@wikimedia.org
(mailto:ct...@wikimedia.org) wrote:
All,
The switchover work is done
On Sunday, January 27, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Ori Livneh wrote:
On Sunday, January 27, 2013 at 5:53 PM, S Page wrote:
I mean
How can an extension's ResourceLoader module have a soft dependency on
a module provided by another extension?
1) Bind to ResourceLoaderRegisterModules.
2) Register
that I have overlooked, please speak up.
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: stable
X-Mobile-Request: secondary
But that also means sending more bytes through the wire :S
Well, you can (and should) drop the 'X-' :-)
See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648: Deprecating the X- Prefix and Similar
Constructs in Application Protocols
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On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
I think we can turn MediaWiki into a fully featured wiki engine which
can compete with the likes of Confluence.
What would it take?
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On Sunday, February 17, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Tim Starling wrote:
On 16/02/13 07:55, Steven Walling wrote:
I didn't see it in the docs above, so thought I'd ask... Is this going
to include rollout of the CodeEditor extension, or will that be done
separately?
CodeEditor will be enabled,
://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49985/ disables the highlighting of symbols
if it looks like there may be a lot of them. Patched in SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
since the problem is not specific to Lua or Scribunto.
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in it.
Henceforth any of the following commands on that page like
git branch -r | sort -V
or
git checkout -b RELrelease number origin/RELrelease number
Anubhav, you have to 'cd' into the directory created by git-clone.
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Only if you have branch.autosetupmerge configured to true
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programming languages are laid out. That
makes more sense to me than categories.
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On Monday, March 4, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Krinkle wrote:
Today I sprinted to pick up QUnit testing in Jenkins and get it
stabilised and deployed.
This is fantastic. Thanks, Timo.
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://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/49612/1/tests/MathTexvcTest.php
http://www.phpunit.de/manual/current/en/test-doubles.html
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On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Sumana Harihareswara wrote:
When you need to ask for a performance review, you can check out
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers/Maintainers#Other_Areas_of_Focus
which suggests Tim Starling, Asher Feldman, and Ori Livneh.
It's bit funny to see my
. But in most other cases, it's proper that a human being has to
explicitly import the content, bringing to bear her discretion and
understanding of content policy.
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probably work, but I am loathe to depend
on it.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
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the longest.
For comparison:
vagrant@precise32:~$ time wget -q
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-core/archive/master.zip unzip -x -q
master.zip
real 1m15.592s
user 0m0.184s
sys 0m3.480s
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Could you capture the output of the following command:
GIT_CURL_VERBOSE=1 GIT_TRACE=true git clone --verbose --depth 1
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/mediawiki/core.git ~/core-git-clone.log
And upload it as an attachment? I already uploaded mine. This way we can
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On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Ori Livneh wrote:
I filed a bug in Bugzilla so we can track this:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46041
Platonides figured it out. Incredibly enough, in the half-sub-sub-version delta
from 1.7.9.5 to 1.7.10, the behavior of git-clone
of patience and
a light touch. Having a sense of humor helps, too.
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here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Vagrant
I hope you check it out, and that you find it useful. Feedback would be much
appreciated.
I'd also like to publicly thank Yurik for testing this extensively on Windows
and providing detailed logs when things broke. Thanks, Yurik!
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OS image and
the virtual disk) into somewhere else than %userprofile%? I know VirtualBox
can do that, as I have two VMs set up in this way.
Yes, this should be handled better. Thanks for the report. Tracking it here:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46675
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On Friday, March 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Tyler Romeo wrote:
Quick question. If I'm correct, Vagrant is supposed to be for setting up
development environments. Under this assumption, why is the mediawiki git
repository only fetched with a depth of 1? Isn't is pretty useless to have
a development
a wiki is and
what you do with it. And all the while MediaWiki will creak and groan from
underneath.
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On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Ryan Lane wrote:
Spend some time editing a well designed Semantically enabled wiki. Web
Platform is a good example: http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Main_Page.
There's a high degree of structure there. That wiki is way above average
quality from the
anymore! \o/
Yeah, confirmed. Very different experience. Thanks Chad.
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onto them a set of subjective
preferences and intuitions, and the only way around that is data.
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://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Event_logging .
Matt Flaschen
Extension was dropped today.
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time
passes and it turns out that we were indeed the only users, then let's close it.
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