Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

Well yes, but so will the rest of the world that uses DST. On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 21:04 Brad Jorsch (Anomie), wrote: > My point was that if CA and Europe accepts those proposals then the rest > of the US that still uses DST would have the problem that things would move > around when DST starts or

[Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

As long as these get pinned to SF time what the rest of the US does with regards to DST is irrelevant. If California drops DST then it no longer affects deployments pinned to SF time. On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 19:42 Brad Jorsch (Anomie), wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Kunal Mehta >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 12:19 PM, Kunal Mehta wrote: > (un)relatedly: > * EU survey to remove summertime/DST: > ylanguage=EN> > * California Proposition 7 (2018) to institute a permanent DST: >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, On 07/11/2018 12:05 AM, Marko Obrovac wrote: > It seems to me that it will be confusing only to non-US people, > honestly, which are the ones benefiting from this change. When DST > changes are applied, and because they are not applied at the

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

I agree with Marko, every time there is a DST change my calendar is totally messed up (some events are pinned to the Pacific time zone, other to the Central European time zone). By pinning everything to UTC we could save that confusion. On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:05 AM Marko Obrovac wrote: > On

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

On 11 July 2018 at 00:47, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > > > Great question! (Unfortunately) for simplicity we will keep the windows > pinned to SF/Pacific timezone. Some windows moving and others not would > create too much confusion; even more than the normal daylight savings > changes already do. >

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

> One question/clarification, though: deployment windows have traditionally > been pinned to SF time (wrt DST changes, concretely), but in your email you > list them in CEST/UTC. Does that imply that these slots are pinned to > Europe's DST, UTC or will they stay pinned to pacific DST? Great

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Engineering] Additional European-appropriate MediaWiki train window starting week of July 9th (also SWAT change)

Hello Greg, I think this is a great initiative and will surely ease work for all people working on the positive spectrum of UTC :) One question/clarification, though: deployment windows have traditionally been pinned to SF time (wrt DST changes, concretely), but in your email you list them in