Re: [Wikitech-l] Followup (Re: Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018)

2017-08-11 Thread יגאל חיטרון 
Saw it now. Thank you very much.
Igal


2017-08-11 17:26 GMT+03:00 Subramanya Sastry :

> Ah! No, there wasn't one. But, I created https://phabricator.wikimedia.
> org/T173096 now and added you to the ticket. We are expecting to deploy
> it by end of next week.
>
> Subbu.
>
>
>
> On 08/10/2017 03:09 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote:
>
>> Sorry for misunderstanding, I spoke about the whitespace.
>> Igal
>>
>>
>> 2017-08-10 22:06 GMT+03:00 Subramanya Sastry :
>>
>> On 08/10/2017 02:49 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello and thank you for this. Is there a phab ticket to follow the
 deployment process?
 Igal (User:IKhitron)

 We have the original Tidy replacement ticket (
>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331) but, as we get closer to start
>>> making phased deployments, we'll create phab tickets to track deployments
>>> separately.
>>>
>>>
>>> Subbu.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Followup (Re: Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018)

2017-08-11 Thread Subramanya Sastry 
Ah! No, there wasn't one. But, I created 
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173096 now and added you to the 
ticket. We are expecting to deploy it by end of next week.


Subbu.


On 08/10/2017 03:09 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote:

Sorry for misunderstanding, I spoke about the whitespace.
Igal


2017-08-10 22:06 GMT+03:00 Subramanya Sastry :


On 08/10/2017 02:49 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote:


Hello and thank you for this. Is there a phab ticket to follow the
deployment process?
Igal (User:IKhitron)


We have the original Tidy replacement ticket (
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331) but, as we get closer to start
making phased deployments, we'll create phab tickets to track deployments
separately.


Subbu.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Followup (Re: Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018)

2017-08-10 Thread יגאל חיטרון 
Sorry for misunderstanding, I spoke about the whitespace.
Igal


2017-08-10 22:06 GMT+03:00 Subramanya Sastry :

>
> On 08/10/2017 02:49 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote:
>
>> Hello and thank you for this. Is there a phab ticket to follow the
>> deployment process?
>> Igal (User:IKhitron)
>>
> We have the original Tidy replacement ticket (
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331) but, as we get closer to start
> making phased deployments, we'll create phab tickets to track deployments
> separately.
>
>
> Subbu.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Followup (Re: Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018)

2017-08-10 Thread Subramanya Sastry 


On 08/10/2017 02:49 PM, יגאל חיטרון wrote:

Hello and thank you for this. Is there a phab ticket to follow the
deployment process?
Igal (User:IKhitron)
We have the original Tidy replacement ticket 
(https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89331) but, as we get closer to 
start making phased deployments, we'll create phab tickets to track 
deployments separately.


Subbu.


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Followup (Re: Tidy will be replaced by RemexHTML on Wikimedia wikis latest by June 2018)

2017-08-10 Thread יגאל חיטרון 
Hello and thank you for this. Is there a phab ticket to follow the
deployment process?
Igal (User:IKhitron)


2017-08-10 21:42 GMT+03:00 Subramanya Sastry :

>
>
> On 07/06/2017 08:02 AM, Subramanya Sastry wrote:
>
>>
>> TL;DR
>> -
>> The Parsing team wants to replace Tidy with a RemexHTML-based solution on
>> the
>> Wikimedia cluster by June 2018. This will require editors to fix pages and
>> templates to address wikitext patterns that behave differently with
>> RemexHTML.  Please see 'What editors will need to do' section on the Tidy
>> replacement FAQ [1].
>>
>> ..
>
>>
>> 9. Monitoring progress
>> --
>> In order to monitor progress, we plan to do a weekly (or some such
>> periodic
>> frequency) test run that compares the rendering of pages with Tidy and
>> with
>> RemexHTML on a large sample of pages (in the 50K range) from a large
>> subset
>> of Wikimedia wikis (~50 or so).  This will give us a pulse of how fixups
>> are
>> going, and when we might be able to flip the switch on different wikis.
>>
>
> I wanted to post some followups on this.
>
> 1. We have a revived dashboard that tracks linter error counts on wikis
>for all linter categories.
>
>See https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikitext-deprecation/
>
> 2. We track the error counts as they change and publish weekly snapshots
>comparing counts to a July 24th baseline (which is when I first
>started collecting stats)
>
>See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsing/Replacing_Tidy/Linter/Stats
>
> 3. We also have a pixel-diffs test run (previously called visual diffs)
>that compares page rendering with Tidy and with RemexHTML. The test
>set has 73K pages sampled from 60 wikis. These diffs more accurately
>reflect what kind of rendering differences we can expect to see if
>pages are not fixed.
>
>See http://mw-expt-tests.wmflabs.org/
>
> 4. Based on the runs above, I identified one more high priority linter
>category which is a Tidy whitespace bug and needs to be fixed (expect
>mostly templates, especially navboxes based on what I've seen in the
>test run above). Once the code is reviewed and deployed to the
>cluster, we'll start populating this category.
>
>See https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/371068/ and
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/371071/
>
> Thanks,
> Subbu.
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