On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 02:06, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
Well, yeah, we should have the Mozilla thingy installed _before_ we
install the program that depends on it, that's obvious. BTW, anyone
care to take Mozilla Win32 for a spin under Wine, see if it works?
--
Dimi.
I've
On November 2, 2002 02:23 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
* you can specify DllOverrides on a per application basis
This is priceless, thank you Francois for pointing it out.
Now, I still think 0.9 should be delivered without DLLs
tweaks -- we should keep them for 1.0. But documenting them
in the
On Saturday 02 November 2002 01:23 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
For instance, let's say I want to run for DreaWeaver 4. I go to the
application database and see this:
To get DreamWeaver running, append the following lines to your Wine
configuration file:
If you expect internet explorer to work, you are GOING to have to have at
least shdocvw,shlwapi set native,builtin. That way they are not required,
but if IE is installed and those DLLs exist, you will need to use the
native versions. I really can't imagine ANY way we could create a builtin
--- Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 2, 2002 12:02 am, Ender wrote:
If you expect internet explorer to work, you are GOING to have to have at
least shdocvw,shlwapi set native,builtin. That way they are not required,
but if IE is installed and those DLLs exist, you will
--- Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 2, 2002 12:02 am, Ender wrote:
If you expect internet explorer to work, you are GOING to have to have
at
least shdocvw,shlwapi set native,builtin. That way they are not
required,
On November 2, 2002 09:57 am, Dustin Navea wrote:
No but if there is a big enough hole, they could use it to get access to
the /etc/passw and then use a dos program (crackerjack comes to mind here)
to decrypt the program (especially if they are dual-booting win9x and
linux)
That's why you
On November 2, 2002 03:26 am, Keith Matthews wrote:
Note that an increasing number of apps are assuming that IE is present
and use it to provide crucial functionality.
For this, we should look into supporting the IWebBrowser interface,
via Mozilla. It's been mentioned here before. Actually,
--- Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On November 2, 2002 09:42 am, Dustin Navea wrote:
apps such as slocate to gain root access and then that would give wine a
bad rep with both windows newbies and linux users...
That can't happen as WIne runs non-root. At mostthey can gain user
On November 2, 2002 10:11 am, Keith Matthews wrote:
Don't care how sexy it is or is not, only if it will work. Some of them
seem to be making some pretty specific assumptions about the interface
available, and doing it in the install routines too.
Well, yeah, we should have the Mozilla thingy
El jue, 31 de oct de 2002, a las 23:56, Dimitrie O. Paun escribio:
On October 31, 2002 06:02 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-- Users can start using Wine
-- works well for a fair number of apps
-- no MS DLLs required (from real Windows)
Hello everybody :),
Could you send me a list of the popular apps what you have been able to
install+run more or less flawless (using only builtin dlls)???
o Name of the app.
o Version.
o URL, if it can be free downloaded.
* popular apps: Applications used by a large number of people in
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To: Ender [EMAIL PROTECTED], Carlos Lozano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1
On October 31, 2002 10:52 pm, Ender wrote:
ICQ and IE6 both install and work fine, over here.
Without any native DLLs?
--
Dimi.
Oh, one other thing that would be nice, while I think of
it... is there
any reason (now we are GPL'ed) that we cannot incorperate cabextract
(http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php3) into Wine?
Because we are not GPL:ed. We are LGPL:ed.
Application that go under programs/ might as an
On November 1, 2002 05:40 am, Carlos Lozano wrote:
Oki doki :)
Very cool. Things like FTP Commander, WinZip, etc.
Even if they are not perfect (like FTP Commnader with
it's ComboEx problem), but they look like can be esily
fixed. We can then start going through them, and getting
them to work.
--- Carlos Lozano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everybody :),
Could you send me a list of the popular apps what you have been able to
install+run more or less flawless (using only builtin dlls)???
o Name of the app.
o Version.
o URL, if it can be free downloaded.
* popular apps:
On November 1, 2002 07:37 am, Dustin Navea wrote:
Does this include games too?
I would say yes, most def.
--
Dimi.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wine 0.8 TODO v0.1 + help request :)
Hello everybody :),
Could you send me a list of the popular apps what you have been able to
install+run more or less flawless (using only builtin dlls)???
o Name of the app.
o Version.
o URL, if it can
On Friday 01 November 2002 01:42 am, Thomas Wickline wrote:
The way it is now I Search around for who is working on what .. And
then PESTER
the info out of them ;) I don't like doing it this way. But it is the
only way I have at this time.
Actually, this sounds like the only universally
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Ender wrote:
Game-wise:
Jazz Jackrabbit 2
Fallout
Neverwinter Nights
Grand Prix Legends
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't care what the app installs. I care what you do _before_ the app
installs. That is, you should have no native DLLs in your fake windows.
Oh, if you allow using native dlls that the app installs then things
are easier; I thought you wanted to
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, the init directive stuff is not really mandatory for
the goals of 0.8. I just put it here since you said you're
working on some linker hacks to get this working before
we have proper DLL separation.
Actually the linker hacks have to be on top
On November 1, 2002 01:38 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Oh, if you allow using native dlls that the app installs then things
are easier; I thought you wanted to make things work with builtins
only. But then you cannot ignore the dll overrides problem, you need
to tweak the overrides just right
On November 1, 2002 01:39 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Actually the linker hacks have to be on top of the dll separation. But
it could be possible to do them for already separated dlls so that we
can get rid of init everywhere except in kernel/ntdll. I'll try that.
Well, maybe the dll
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, maybe the dll separation term is overloaded. One way to understand
it is that DLLs export all their external functions through the .spec file.
And yes, we are not that far away from doing that. What I was referring to
is the elimination of the
On Friday 01 November 2002 02:35 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
[DllOverrides]
; some dlls you may want to change
oleaut32 = builtin, native
ole32= builtin, native
commdlg = builtin, native
comdlg32 = builtin, native
shell= builtin, native
shell32 = builtin,
On November 1, 2002 01:38 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Oh, if you allow using native dlls that the app installs then things
are easier; I thought you wanted to make things work with builtins
only. But then you cannot ignore the dll overrides problem, you need
to tweak the overrides just
On November 2, 2002 12:02 am, Ender wrote:
If you expect internet explorer to work, you are GOING to have to have at
least shdocvw,shlwapi set native,builtin. That way they are not required,
but if IE is installed and those DLLs exist, you will need to use the
native versions. I really can't
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 2, 2002 12:02 am, Ender wrote:
If you expect internet explorer to work, you are GOING to have to have at
least shdocvw,shlwapi set native,builtin. That way they are not required,
but if IE is installed and those DLLs exist, you will
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, again, what I mean by 0.8:
-- Users can start using Wine
-- works well for a fair number of apps
-- no MS DLLs required (from real Windows)
That alone should take a couple of years g
-- User facing stuff (website, docs, etc.)
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 05:38:10PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
4. Enlist some 'official' distribution maintainers
(at the minimum RedHat, Suse, UnitedLinux, Debian)
Add Mandrake, remove UnitedLinux: UnitedLinux is a SERVER distro
(or, to be more precise: the core of several server
El jue, 31 de oct de 2002, a las 15:02, Alexandre Julliard escribio:
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now, again, what I mean by 0.8:
-- Users can start using Wine
-- works well for a fair number of apps
-- no MS DLLs required (from real Windows)
That alone should
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
[...]
A. WineHQ work
0. Reorganize a bit the navigational menu
1. Add a screenshot link to the homepage
See also my other email...
2. Create some really sexy screenshots
Advice on screenshots:
- if the screenshot is just about one
It depends on the complex of the apps (winmx,icq or ie6,officeXP ;)
and what you means by works well ;) 70-80% or 95-100% functionality??
ICQ and IE6 both install and work fine, over here. Never tried WinMX. I
hear some significant progress is being made in the officeXP area over at
CW :)
-
Alexandre Julliard wrote:
I think the window management stuff is important, otherwise you can't
install most apps without using desktop mode. But it's already in the
0.9 goals (and I'm working on it).
And it's improving in leaps and bounds.
WM updates done in the last month or so have
On October 31, 2002 06:02 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
-- Users can start using Wine
-- works well for a fair number of apps
-- no MS DLLs required (from real Windows)
That alone should take a couple of years g
Oh, what next, Murphy
On November 1, 2002 12:52 am, Ender wrote:
Almost. It's on a 100% no-windows install, the only naitve DLL's I use are
installed by IE6 itself - I think I'm using native crypt32/secur32 to get
SSL working, and native wininet.
I don't care what the app installs. I care what you do _before_ the
Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
This is the initial TODO for Wine 0.8.
I know, 0.8 has been released before, but that's ancient history.
Whether or not it gets released with this version number is
irrelevant. In fact, even if it never becomes a public release,
it is an important point to reach toward
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