Hi,
I am trying to develop some win32 code wich would use services, ( ie.
I would like to develop some code which could run as a win32 service ).
I have been following the wine mailing list, but I am not aware of the
status of services in wine and if an implementation is underway
All the machinery for the services seem's to be in wine, so I am
wondering if there has been any attempts ?
There has been discussion but nothing attempted yet. I think the plan was to add
support to
wineboot.
Thanks
Steven
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Steven Edwards wrote:
All the machinery for the services seem's to be in wine, so I am
wondering if there has been any attempts ?
There has been discussion but nothing attempted yet. I think the plan was to add
support to
wineboot.
Thanks
Steven
This does not fit in with where wineboot
On Friday 21 March 2003 04:52 pm, Steven Edwards wrote:
I havent been following how wineboot operates as I dont have a need for it
under Mingw or Cygwin ATM. Sylvain is right you should look at the way
wineboot and rpcss work under WINE and then implement services as such. It
would be nice
wine utils in the past (the font generation is performed, as
far as I can tell, in the server context itself), and the whole thing is
taking time and patience to sort out. If all you want is asynchronous
services starting, that's easy (I practically have the code lying around
somewhere). If you
Would it not be possible to launch wineserver to handle NT services ?
Thus if the user was logged in services would be running ( if he fx.
had started wineserver in his .xsession file ).
I do realise that there are issues such as privileges and multiuser,
but this would circumvent them
Would it not be possible to launch wineserver to handle NT services ?
Thus if the user was logged in services would be running ( if he fx.
had started wineserver in his .xsession file ).
I do realise that there are issues such as privileges and multiuser,
but this would circumvent
dont do it ! even wineboot isnt started by the server !
You might want to make a wrapper application like
wine/programs/services. This program could then
be started by wineserver and a config option if you want to try and
run a NT service. I dont
really see the point on running services
I havent been following how wineboot operates as I dont have a need for it under Mingw
or Cygwin
ATM. Sylvain is right you should look at the way wineboot and rpcss work under WINE
and then
implement services as such. It would be nice if you add a net command to wcmd so we
can net stop
service
I have asked a before about NT services, and about the support for
them in wine, does wine have any support for NT services ?
I'm getting errors on some code which I have written for NT and it
runs on NT 2k xp , and it seem's that there is no support for services.
If I wanted to get started
I think that
http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-devel/2002/10/0578.html will give
you most of the answers you are looking for.
Shachar
Lars Segerlund wrote:
I have asked a before about NT services, and about the support for
them in wine, does wine have any support for NT services
, and doing that would IMO
not raise substantial security issues.
All that's needed is a working service implementation in the sense that
services can be registered which wine would start automatically when
it's launched.
Martin
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On Thursday 24 October 2002 12:30 am, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 22, 2002 12:24 pm, Martin Wilck wrote:
The fact that wine cannot change user personalities and is lacking most
of the NT security concepts makes services pretty useless.
I was thinking, can't we somehow use stuff like
the file directly, so the system
registry file must not be readable by normal users (hence the need for
suid on the server).
As for printer drivers, and services at large - there is a major
question here of whether we wish Wine services to be able to server
non-wine processes. If the answer is yes
Dear Shachar,
Thanks for this clean and convincing model.
As for printer drivers, and services at large - there is a major
question here of whether we wish Wine services to be able to server
non-wine processes. If the answer is yes, as is probably the case with
an Adobe PDF printer driver
--- Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 11:19:21AM -0700, Dustin
Navea wrote:
--- Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:08:49AM -0700, Dustin
Navea wrote:
Just as wine should not be run as root, file i/o
in
wine should
helps on that
front to keep developers in check.
-Dustin
P.S. have I confused everyone enough yet? ;-P
No me (yet :)
Back to the services part, I agree with Alexandre: do we have something
needing services now, and is it worth it to support all of it.
Vincent
--- Martin Wilck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am Don, 2002-10-24 um 17.08 schrieb Dustin Navea:
I was actually thinking more from a read the file
standpoint, i.e if in the future wine runs as a
service with its own account, would wine be able
to
read the file after someone changed the
--- Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:08:49AM -0700, Dustin
Navea wrote:
or what if someone just changes the
owner/group on the file (like a word doc), and
then
tries to run it with wine, what happens then?
Unless wine has some suid
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 01:32:06PM -0400, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On October 24, 2002 01:30 pm, Alexandre Julliard wrote:
So what are the real world cases that require these kinds of things?
Well, not many I guess, Just For Fun (TM). Kindda like running
Wine, under Cygwin, under Windows...
Am Don, 2002-10-24 um 17.08 schrieb Dustin Navea:
I was actually thinking more from a read the file
standpoint, i.e if in the future wine runs as a
service with its own account, would wine be able to
read the file after someone changed the file's owner
from wine to, say user speeddy, or
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:08:49AM -0700, Dustin Navea wrote:
or what if someone just changes the
owner/group on the file (like a word doc), and
then
tries to run it with wine, what happens then?
Unless wine has some suid capabilities (which it
shouldn't)
this has no impact -
--- Martin Wilck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Am Don, 2002-10-24 um 15.43 schrieb Dustin Navea:
Another potential problem popped into my head
though,
and that is:
what if someone edits the initscript to where wine
runs as root (or someone compromises the server
and
does it),
If
into this category? Print-driver installation like
in the Adobe Acrobat case I mention above? I've seen proposals
for SMB support which do and do not fall into these categories
and AFAIK we still don't have an answer to Martin's original question
about whether we care about the services APIs yet
Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 08:08:49AM -0700, Dustin
Navea wrote:
or what if someone just changes the
owner/group on the file (like a word doc), and
then
tries to run it with wine, what happens then?
On October 22, 2002 12:24 pm, Martin Wilck wrote:
The fact that wine cannot change user personalities and is lacking most
of the NT security concepts makes services pretty useless.
I was thinking, can't we somehow use stuff like sudo(8) to accomplish
that? I personally haven't used sudo(8
I have had a look at dlls/advapi/services.c and found that it is pretty
incomplete. Can anybody tell what the current implementation is used for
(are there any known programs starting services?)
In particular I'd like to know what people generally think about the
usefulness of Services in Wine
When I try to run AIM 4.1 under WINE (build 2916, Linux 2.2.14
i686, RedHat 6.1), it crashes after it's connected, and crashes when
it says "Starting Services". The crash happens in GlobalHandle(). I
turned on debuging for the global module/channel, and included some of
the trace
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