On 2 Nov 2002, Jeremy White wrote:
[...]
For example, in your proposed structure, it
is completely unclear to me what the difference
between Support and Forums is. The IRC
channel is one of our best support tools...
but it's under Forums?
I'm not sure non-technical users would have the
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Chris Morgan wrote:
* 607 - Add screenshots
Where would screenshots be contributed to? Mailed to wine-devel? Appended to
the bug entry in bugzilla?
Actually, the larger issue is:
where should Web site discussions take place and where should patches go?
The 'How to
Surely there is no reason that wine actually has to do these checks
anyway - would it not be simply possible to say that the checks passed
regardless?
And even if we do decide to implement them, (I don't know the legal
position on this - I'm not a lawyer or anything), I don't see why
implementing
On November 3, 2002 12:51 am, Jeremy White wrote:
However, I think that when someone comes to
a home page, they really have only the following
major questions:
What is this?
How do I get it?
Hey! It's busted! Help!
How can I help?
What's New?
Partly, yes. But I think some very
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Carlos Lozano wrote:
[...]
29. Putty - This simple Telnet application could hang with the big boys.
VERSION 0.52.
* Install: No needed install.
* Run: No. (it doesn't show the right part of the window, regression)
Very strange. PuTTY used to
On November 3, 2002 02:35 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
Too much nesting just hides information and forces the user to dig down
to find what he is looking for.
I am sorry to do a AOL -- me too post, but I do agree 100% with Francois.
For WineHQ, I _strongly_ feel it's a big mistake to have more
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 07:17:28PM -0800, Francois Gouget wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Andreas Mohr wrote:
[...]
The only advantage I can think of would be the use of Unix code, but then
you could achieve the very same thing by writing the Unix equivalent DLL
of a Windows DLL (e.g.: hardware
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 09:07:08PM -0500, Chris Morgan wrote:
Upon the testing of Kazaa lite I ran into numerous errors like:
err:menu:MENU_ParseResource not a string item, flags: 0x0800
These entries appear to be intended as separators and in fact the flag of
0x800 is MF_SEPARATOR. The
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 09:43:40AM +, Keith Matthews wrote:
On 02 Nov 2002 23:51:01 -0600
Jeremy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, I propose the following instead:
First, this assumes that we use Jeremy Newman's idea of a rotating
screen shot on main page, and continued
Applications:
3. Internet Explorer - This listing includes 5.01, 5.01 High Encryption Pack,
5.5, 6.0 Beta and the long awaited, official release of 6.0.
VERSION 5.5. (from cdrom)
* Install: No, with native urlmon stops a bit later.
* Run: Unknown.
It is
here we are.
Zsolt about Safedisc 1.x
When the patch was published, there was a discussion, and the conclusion was
that the code is very probably legal, and is not against DMCA
Are you sure about the above statements? Have you checked that, or it is
just your opinion?
Carlos words
On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:28 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
This is my proposal for the WineHQ menu structure,
based on the discussions I had with Francois.
The Home Page should just be our news page. Many
projects opt for this, and I think
El dom, 03 de nov de 2002, a las 08:19, Igor Izyumin escribio:
The real challenge is making it efficient - the Super Nintendo runs at about
5MHz but requires a 300MHz processor to emulate it with decent speed. Unless
It is not a good example, the snes has 2 different cpus, gpu engine,
sound
On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:09 am, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 3, 2002 02:35 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
Too much nesting just hides information and forces the user to dig down
to find what he is looking for.
I am sorry to do a AOL -- me too post, but I do agree 100% with Francois.
This question thingy is _completely_ non standard, and
at least for me, a bit annoying. And being so non-standard,
I think the burdon of proof it's on you to justify such
a drastic departure from standard website design practice.
I have no objection to changing the titles away from
the question
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 03:07:48PM +, Keith Matthews wrote:
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 15:24:14 +0100
Andreas Mohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:28:54AM -0800, Francois Gouget wrote:
* Who cares about an 'Applications Database'? What's that anyway?
Would a potential
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:52:09AM -0600, Igor Izyumin wrote:
On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:09 am, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 3, 2002 02:35 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
Too much nesting just hides information and forces the user to dig down
to find what he is looking for.
I am
On Sunday 03 November 2002 02:26, Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Adam Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry if this is off topic or doesn't belong here. I'm not a
developer (at least not in C) so I'll wait a few years while I learn C
before I come back and help you guys. But I was wondering...
On November 3, 2002 11:47 am, Carlos Lozano wrote:
Debian unstable includes the package cabextract 0.5-1,
it is a important problem because, in this version
the option -d is broken. Then the function Extract
of the builtin urlmon.dll will not work :((
As long as there is a cabextract version
On Sunday 03 November 2002 11:11 am, Jeremy White wrote:
* The Supported Applications idea is a good one, and I've been
advocating it for a few days now. This should be a hand-maintained
list of apps what we have 'officially' tested, and know for a fact
that work decently in
Might this be a problem for the people making the cabextract package and not
wine? Especially if it is known to be broken on their end and going to be
fixed.
Chris
On Sunday 03 November 2002 11:47 am, Carlos Lozano wrote:
Hello,
Debian unstable includes the package cabextract 0.5-1,
it
On November 3, 2002 05:28 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
* having a fully expanded menu means we must have fewer items otherwise
it risks being overwhelming. Things are not as bad as they seem because
in my proposal I tried to include every item currently in the web site
and I gave it a place in
Zsolt Rizsanyi wrote:
On Sunday 03 November 2002 02:26, Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Adam Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sorry if this is off topic or doesn't belong here. I'm not a
developer (at least not in C) so I'll wait a few years while I learn C
before I come back and help you
On November 3, 2002 12:45 pm, Jaco Greeff wrote:
I have tried this, CreateProcess doesn't find cmd.exe if we don't specify
the full path. (This happend in the test case with the neccessary changes
made to default to cmd.exe). But yes, it would be great.
But the question is whether or not
On Sunday 03 November 2002 15:53, Mark Hannessen wrote:
here we are.
Zsolt about Safedisc 1.x
When the patch was published, there was a discussion, and the conclusion
was that the code is very probably legal, and is not against DMCA
Are you sure about the above statements? Have you
On Sunday 03 November 2002 11:38 am, Jeremy White wrote:
I am not sure what you're saying here, but as far as I'm concerned,
I think we should have a link in the menu *only* to the Supported
Applications page (the hand written one), and from there a link to
the Application Database. If
It is, in fact, point #3 that makes this combination faster than running
a full blown emulator. It also holds true to the Wine name - the wine
code is not used (is not) as an emulator.
Just to point out that EXACTLY the same discussion took place here not that
long ago (in August precisely)
On November 3, 2002 09:24 am, Andreas Mohr wrote:
I'm prepared to see my comments ripped to shreds ;-)
It _is_ a bloody tough thread, isn't it? :)
--
Dimi.
On Sunday 03 November 2002 11:41 am, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 3, 2002 12:26 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
IMHO the CVS stuff should *only* be mentioned in the Wine User Guide (and
the Developers Guide would explain the more advanced usage patterns).
Then it'd be pretty easy to simply
On November 3, 2002 12:11 pm, Jeremy White wrote:
I actually think that we could have exactly one entry - and
that it be called 'Supported Applications'. That's the link
people will click on; it addresses their immediate question.
Trying to be more semantically precise with the main menu
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:36:36AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 3, 2002 05:28 am, Francois Gouget wrote:
* I also hate the term Application Database. It sounds too techy,
and it's one of the reasons I never used it. So I suggest
Application Status
That's good, too.
I am not sure what you're saying here, but as far as I'm concerned,
I think we should have a link in the menu *only* to the Supported
Applications page (the hand written one), and from there a link to
the Application Database. If this is what you're saying, I agree.
If you are saying that we
On November 3, 2002 12:51 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
Hmm, I guess you're right.
How about we throw away CVS in User Guide and document *all* CVS management
issues in the Devel Guide and simply have a reference to the Devel Guide
in the Users Guide when it comes to CVS ?
WineHQ would then use a
On November 3, 2002 12:26 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
IMHO the CVS stuff should *only* be mentioned in the Wine User Guide (and
the Developers Guide would explain the more advanced usage patterns).
Then it'd be pretty easy to simply add a small For CVS download of Wine
source, see Wine Users Guide
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:41:29PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 3, 2002 12:26 pm, Andreas Mohr wrote:
IMHO the CVS stuff should *only* be mentioned in the Wine User Guide (and
the Developers Guide would explain the more advanced usage patterns).
Then it'd be pretty easy to
On November 3, 2002 12:38 pm, Jeremy White wrote:
I'm advocating that the main menu link be called
'Supported Applications', and I'm reserving judgement on
what the resulting page looks like. However, I think your
suggestion is fine, so long as the app db is not buried as
far as you would
On November 3, 2002 12:38 pm, Jeremy White wrote:
Yikes. I hadn't understood that the whole menu tree would be
visible on the main page. I don't like that at all.
34 choices on the first page is way more than the 7 max
I advocate...
Please look at: http://appdb.winehq.com/
The menus are
György 'Nog' Jeney wrote:
After applying this patch, please remove msdos/dosconf.c.
ChangeLog:
* dlls/winedos/dosconf.c
* include/callback.h
* msdos/dpmi.c
* msdos/dosconf.c (removed)
* dlls/ntdll/Makefile.in
* dlls/winedos/winedos.spec
* dlls/winedos/Makefile.in
Move dosconf
Francois Gouget wrote:
On Sat, 2 Nov 2002, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
[...]
4. Work on getting the SGML tools to do what we
want, so we can write the FAQ in XML, like so:
faq
entry
questionWhat is this for?/question
answerNothing in particular, it's just cool./answer
/entry
/faq
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 12:53:15 -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
But the question is whether or not CreateProcess _should_ find it, or not.
If it is, than it's a bug in CreateProcess, and working around it is rather
detrimental. If not, than fine, use the full path. We should
On 3 Nov 2002, Jaco Greeff wrote:
[...]
I however, did look at what the correct behaviour of CreateProcess
should be when I came across this. According to MSDN:
The string can specify the full path and file name of the module to execute
or it can specify a partial name. In the case of a
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
[...]
Does bochs employ JIT compilation? I know that even modest JIT support
provides great runtime improvement.
AFAIK (i.e. not much) Boch does not support just-in-time compilation. It
would certainly be a nice addition to it but I am told it requires
On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 11:50, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 3, 2002 12:38 pm, Jeremy White wrote:
Yikes. I hadn't understood that the whole menu tree would be
visible on the main page. I don't like that at all.
34 choices on the first page is way more than the 7 max
I advocate...
On Sunday 03 November 2002 02:52 pm, Jeremy White wrote:
On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 11:50, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
On November 3, 2002 12:38 pm, Jeremy White wrote:
Yikes. I hadn't understood that the whole menu tree would be
visible on the main page. I don't like that at all.
34 choices
--- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Dustin Navea [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WINE for PowerPC?
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 08:18:42 -0600
On Saturday 02 November 2002 07:26 pm, Dustin Navea wrote:
--- Adam Ernst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm
--- Igor Izyumin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 02 November 2002 05:03 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
This is my proposal for the WineHQ menu structure,
based on the discussions I had with Francois.
The Home Page should just be our news page. Many
projects opt for this, and I think
On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:37:13PM -0600, Adam Ernst wrote:
I'm sorry if this is off topic or doesn't belong here. I'm not a
developer (at least not in C) so I'll wait a few years while I learn C
before I come back and help you guys. But I was wondering...
What are the technical issues
--- Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like this but with a couple tweaks:
Home
(no menu item for this one, just click on the Wine logo)
1. About Wine
1.1. Introduction
a. Intro
b. Why Wine
c. Myths
d. Technology
e. History
On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Igor Izyumin wrote:
[...]
How about renaming support to Get Help, Troubleshooting, or something like
that. Support != self-help, and as a user, I would click on
Documentation first. Support implies commercial support
True. It often has such a connotation and it might
On November 3, 2002 03:52 pm, Jeremy White wrote:
But the menus only have 7 main choices, and clicking most of
them bring up submenus in the main page (which is, on reflection,
probably not optimal).
Well, I say, let's get the expanded menu a chance. It solves a few
problems quite nicely, and
On November 3, 2002 05:04 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
Well, I say, let's get the expanded menu a chance. It solves a few
problems quite nicely, and it may not be too bad.
sigh: s/get/give/
--
Dimi.
Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone have a good way to deal with this? One way might be to make
DestroyWindow map to EndDialog in this case (as EndDialog manages to
handle this right), but what would the best way to do that be?
You should probably write a test program under
Here's the latest version of my WineHQ menu proposal. I tried to take
into account (at least some of) the comments I received on the previous
one.
What's especially new is that you can see this one on the Web and that
should give everyone something more concrete to think about. Note of
course
On November 3, 2002 10:11 pm, Francois Gouget wrote:
http://fgouget.free.fr/tmp/WineHQ.html
Francois, you're my hero! I *love* the menu. It's not too much,
and most information is _one_ click away. I'm sold!
The only tiny, tiny nit I have is that I'd put Development
before Support, but other
Alpha 1 of WineHQ is up at http://lostwages.winehq.org
The site is very very red. I'm not sure of that idea right now, but tell
me what you think anyway. I think it hurts my eyes, but this is a short
notice thing, I'll come up with something better. Feel free to submit
color ideas.
It does not
On Sunday 03 November 2002 09:37 pm, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote:
-- doesn't render too well in Konqy
Something about Konky (sounds like a dog) has never liked the tables
(or something) in WineHQ. In particular, WWN tends to go very, very
wrong.
BTW, following some of the discussion here
On November 3, 2002 10:58 pm, Greg Turner wrote:
Something about Konky (sounds like a dog) has never liked the tables
(or something) in WineHQ. In particular, WWN tends to go very, very
wrong.
Indeed, they look terible. We need to change that IMO. We are still
part of the OSS world, right? :)
To all our WWN editors (past, and present), a big
THANK YOU!
for doing the Wine's Weekly News. You guys are doing an
excellent (and quite important work). I love them dearly.
Keep up the good work! :)
--
Dimi.
P.S. People may think that I lost my mind. Not really,
it's backed up
Mark Hannessen wrote:
When the patch was published, there was a discussion, and the conclusion was
that the code is very probably legal, and is not against DMCA
Are you sure about the above statements? Have you checked that, or it is
just your opinion?
Carlos words regarding copy protection:
No Screenshots link on the left side? ;-)
Chris
On Sunday 03 November 2002 11:08 pm, Jeremy Newman wrote:
Alpha 1 of WineHQ is up at http://lostwages.winehq.org
The site is very very red. I'm not sure of that idea right now, but tell
me what you think anyway. I think it hurts my eyes, but
Francois Gouget wrote:
This is if you specify the lpApplicationName parameter. To have
CreateProcess search the path, leave it as NULL and specify wcmd.exe
... in lpCommandLine.
Very good point. I'll look into it.
Greetings,
Jaco
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Chris Morgan wrote:
No Screenshots link on the left side? ;-)
That's because, as Jeremy said, it's not using the latest version of
the menu hierarchy which is a very easily fixed detail.
What bothers me more is that the menu is not expanded by default which
prevents you
Gavriel State wrote:
Mark Hannessen wrote:
When the patch was published, there was a discussion, and the
conclusion was that the code is very probably legal, and is not
against DMCA
Are you sure about the above statements? Have you checked that, or
it is just your opinion?
Carlos words
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