Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-16 Thread Francois Gouget
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Ben Klein wrote: [...] But his bug raises an interesting issue. If an application has sanity checks on FAT32 vs NTFS (e.g., I need a 4GB file ... I've detected no NTFS therefore it's FAT32 which doesn't support more than 2GB files), Then the application is buggy: NTFS is

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-16 Thread Francois Gouget
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009, Chris Robinson wrote: [...] Available fs mount points: / - /dev/sda3 /home - /dev/sda4 /boot - /dev/sda1 /mnt/cdrom - /dev/hda1 Matching mount points that /home/user/.wine/drive_c exists in and are active: / /home Mount point with the longest name: /home Thus,

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-16 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:19:05 +0200 (CEST) Francois Gouget fgou...@free.fr wrote: Maybe the DVD Shrink author would agree to do this change if asked? Development of DVD Shrink was halted in 2005 due to DMCA issues. -- Rosanne DiMesio dime...@earthlink.net

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-16 Thread Austin English
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Francois Gouget fgou...@free.fr wrote: On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Ben Klein wrote: [...] But his bug raises an interesting issue. If an application has sanity checks on FAT32 vs NTFS (e.g., I need a 4GB file ... I've detected no NTFS therefore it's FAT32 which

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-16 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/16 Francois Gouget fgou...@free.fr: On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Ben Klein wrote: But his bug raises an interesting issue. If an application has sanity checks on FAT32 vs NTFS (e.g., I need a 4GB file ... I've detected no NTFS therefore it's FAT32 which doesn't support more than 2GB files),

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-07 Thread Kai Blin
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 04:21:37 Vitaliy Margolen wrote: - Implement missing functionality - will most likely be nearly impossible without driver support for special features. Or have to be emulated by Wine (then why not for any other FS?) We can probably get away with 80% of the apps only

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-07 Thread Austin English
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM, James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Kai Blin kai.b...@gmail.com wrote on April 7th: Subject: Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX? On Tuesday 07 April 2009 04:21:37 Vitaliy Margolen wrote: - Implement missing functionality - will most likely

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-07 Thread James Mckenzie
Kai Blin kai.b...@gmail.com wrote on April 7th: Subject: Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX? On Tuesday 07 April 2009 04:21:37 Vitaliy Margolen wrote: - Implement missing functionality - will most likely be nearly impossible without driver support for special features. Or have

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-07 Thread King InuYasha
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Austin English austinengl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 1:49 PM, James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Kai Blin kai.b...@gmail.com wrote on April 7th: Subject: Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX? On Tuesday 07 April 2009 04:21:37

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Vit Hrachovy
Ben Klein wrote: But his bug raises an interesting issue. If an application has sanity checks on FAT32 vs NTFS (e.g., I need a 4GB file ... I've detected no NTFS therefore it's FAT32 which doesn't support more than 2GB files), then we might just have to make this configurable, possible on a

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Paul Vriens
Ben Klein wrote: 2009/4/6 Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com: On Sunday 05 April 2009 6:45:42 pm Ben Klein wrote: That might be fine for mount points and mountable devices, but how could you accurately determine the filesystem type for an arbitrary directory like $HOME/.wine/drive_c? Expand

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Kornél Pál
Alexandre Julliard wrote: Remco remc...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 5:35:36 pm Ben Klein wrote: My suggestion is a drop-down box in the Advanced tab of Drives to control filesystem type Why not make

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Vit Hrachovy
Paul Vriens wrote: Even 'df -T /home/user/.wine/dosdevices/c:' will give you the correct mountpoint and filesystem type. df -T is not portable (tested - does not work on Solaris). IMO Autodetection code is too much overhead here, given the Wine multi-platform support. Providing unixfs as

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Remco remc...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 5:35:36 pm Ben Klein wrote: My suggestion is a drop-down box in the Advanced tab of Drives to control filesystem type Why not make the default what the

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/6 Kornél Pál kornel...@gmail.com: Alexandre Julliard wrote: Remco remc...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 5:35:36 pm Ben Klein wrote: My suggestion is a drop-down box in the Advanced tab of Drives to

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Sparr
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote: ... since there are apps that expect NTFS. Just for the record, what do those apps do if you install them in Windows on a non-NTFS drive?

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Vitaliy Margolen
Austin English wrote: See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938 for background. Vitaliy closed this bug, saying it's an application bug that it depends on seeing NTFS file system type for certian program features. I don't think it should be a WONTFIX, as the only reason that change

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-06 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/7 Vitaliy Margolen wine-de...@kievinfo.com: Austin English wrote: See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938 for background. Vitaliy closed this bug, saying it's an application bug that it depends on seeing NTFS file system type for certian program features. I don't think it

NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Austin English
See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938 for background. Vitaliy closed this bug, saying it's an application bug that it depends on seeing NTFS file system type for certian program features. I don't think it should be a WONTFIX, as the only reason that change was introduced was to enable

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread James McKenzie
Austin English wrote: See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938 for background. Sent reply direct to Austin. This may be outside of Wine's control due to flaky NTFS support by some Linux distributions. James McKenzie

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Austin English
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM, James McKenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Austin English wrote: See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938 for background. Sent reply direct to Austin.  This may be outside of Wine's control due to flaky NTFS support by some Linux distributions.

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/6 Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:51 PM, James McKenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: Austin English wrote: See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17938 for background. Sent reply direct to Austin.  This may be outside of Wine's control due

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Chris Robinson
On Sunday 05 April 2009 5:35:36 pm Ben Klein wrote: My suggestion is a drop-down box in the Advanced tab of Drives to control filesystem type (separate from disk type, as is suggested in Comment #7 on 17938). It shouldn't be important for floppies or even CD-ROMs, but the options could be: -

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Remco
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 5:35:36 pm Ben Klein wrote: My suggestion is a drop-down box in the Advanced tab of Drives to control filesystem type Why not make the default what the filesystem actually is? Another option is

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Austin English
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com wrote: If I interpret it correctly, the user reporting bug 17938 is trying to use a native NTFS filesystem with Wine, which we already know is a bad idea :) No. The problem is that we _used_ to have NTFS reported as the default file

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Austin English
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 05 April 2009 5:35:36 pm Ben Klein wrote: My suggestion is a drop-down box in the Advanced tab of Drives to control filesystem type Why not make the default what the filesystem actually is? That may be a lot

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/6 Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com: On Sunday 05 April 2009 5:35:36 pm Ben Klein wrote: My suggestion is a drop-down box in the Advanced tab of Drives to control filesystem type (separate from disk type, as is suggested in Comment #7 on 17938). It shouldn't be important for floppies

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Chris Robinson
On Sunday 05 April 2009 6:01:15 pm Ben Klein wrote: Isn't that more-or-less what I suggested? The biggest problem would be detecting what filesystem a given directory is on (noting that wine's drives are not even mounted partitions). Expert parsing of /etc/mtab would indicate it on Linux

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/6 Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com: On Sunday 05 April 2009 6:01:15 pm Ben Klein wrote: Isn't that more-or-less what I suggested? The biggest problem would be detecting what filesystem a given directory is on (noting that wine's drives are not even mounted partitions). Expert

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Austin English
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Ben Klein shackl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/6 Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com: On Sunday 05 April 2009 6:01:15 pm Ben Klein wrote: Isn't that more-or-less what I suggested? The biggest problem would be detecting what filesystem a given directory is on

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Chris Robinson
On Sunday 05 April 2009 6:45:42 pm Ben Klein wrote: That might be fine for mount points and mountable devices, but how could you accurately determine the filesystem type for an arbitrary directory like $HOME/.wine/drive_c? Expand it (eg. $HOME - /home/user), resolve all symlinks, then see which

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Ben Klein
2009/4/6 Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com: On Sunday 05 April 2009 6:45:42 pm Ben Klein wrote: That might be fine for mount points and mountable devices, but how could you accurately determine the filesystem type for an arbitrary directory like $HOME/.wine/drive_c? Expand it (eg. $HOME -

Re: NTFS filesystem features - WONTFIX?

2009-04-05 Thread Dmitry Timoshkov
Chris Robinson chris.k...@gmail.com wrote: Why not make the default what the filesystem actually is? Eg. if the FS is FAT32, report FAT32; if it's NTFS, report NTFS; if it's a unixfs, report unixfs; etc. The registry/winecfg can then be used to override the per-drive type if it causes