Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Marcus Meissner wrote: Here is a list of the soft dependencies. We suggest packagers install each and every last of those before building the package. These libraries are not dependencies in the RPM sense. In DEB packages, they should appear as Suggests or Recommends, as the case may be. ICU

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-24 Thread Francois Gouget
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Marcus Meissner wrote: Here is a list of the soft dependencies. We suggest packagers install each and every last of those before building the package. These libraries are not dependencies in the RPM sense. In DEB packages, they should appear as

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-24 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:56:43 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: My reason for splitting off libwine and wine is that libwine can be installed without wine and could someday be used to launch a program that has been ported with winelib, without having to have wine proper in it. I'm afraid that's not

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-24 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Francois Gouget wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Marcus Meissner wrote: Here is a list of the soft dependencies. We suggest packagers install each and every last of those before building the package. These libraries are not dependencies in the RPM sense. In DEB packages, they

Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Scott Ritchie
The Debian packages have gotten rather out of date, and it looks like Ove's not going to be making them any more. I took the initiative and decided to try making one myself. I'm polishing off a new Debian package now. Some major things I noticed: 1) There were a lot of old hacks in the package

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Scott Ritchie wrote: However, I'm not sure if this means the wine binary package should depend on them, since it's compiled in. So, should I make libicu28 a dependancy for wine? ICU is compiled statically. There is no runtime dependency on libicu. It is an exception, however. The general

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Hans Leidekker
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 11:32, Scott Ritchie wrote: 4) What I didn't find is a standard list of packages that aren't strictly required for wine (like libxt-dev and flex), but that wine can benefit from. A good example would be the alsa development files. These are all things that should

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Francois Gouget
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Hans Leidekker wrote: [...] * Alsa: http://sourceforge.net/projects/alsa (Linux only) This library gives sound support to the Windows environment. * JACK: http://jackit.sourceforge.net Similar to Alsa, it allow Wine to use the JACK audio server. I would add NAS

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 02:32:08 -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: The Debian packages have gotten rather out of date, and it looks like Ove's not going to be making them any more. I took the initiative and decided to try making one myself. I'm polishing off a new Debian package now. Cool! While

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:07:51PM +, Mike Hearn wrote: Cool! While you're at it could you please combine them altogether so the packaging matches the upstream sources? Last time I checked the Debian packages were split into tons of little packages which is wrong and led to strange

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:32:08AM -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: Now, this leads to the question: is it worth even having a package maintainers guide? If so, who wants to update it? Well, it would be great if you'd use the experience you gathered doing the .deb packages to update the guide.

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Francois Gouget
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004, Mike Hearn wrote: [...] Cool! While you're at it could you please combine them altogether so the packaging matches the upstream sources? Last time I checked the Debian packages were split into tons of little packages which is wrong and led to strange breakages. Just one

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Mike Hearn
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 19:14:00 +0100, Francois Gouget wrote: Having lots of packages is the Debian way. So I see nothing wrong with having wine, libwine, libwine-dev, wine-doc, libwine-alsa, libwine-arts, libwine-capi, libwine-cil, libwine-jack, libwine-nas, libwine-twain. Well, it may be the

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 10:47:47AM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:32:08AM -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: Now, this leads to the question: is it worth even having a package maintainers guide? If so, who wants to update it? I sat down for 15 minutes and revised it a

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 07:14:00PM +0100, Francois Gouget wrote: Having lots of packages is the Debian way. So I see nothing wrong with having wine, libwine, libwine-dev, wine-doc, libwine-alsa, libwine-arts, libwine-capi, libwine-cil, libwine-jack, libwine-nas, libwine-twain. ...and it

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
I sat down for 15 minutes and revised it a bit. Open for comments. Looks good to me. We may want to add a bit of a stronger warning at the top (maybe?) that the config file is obsolete, and will go away, so don't bother to customize or provide one. Right now it seems that our possition is a

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Scott Ritchie
On Tue, 2004-11-23 at 13:25 +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Scott Ritchie wrote: However, I'm not sure if this means the wine binary package should depend on them, since it's compiled in. So, should I make libicu28 a dependancy for wine? ICU is compiled statically. There is no runtime

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Scott Ritchie
Actually, a wine and wine-devel would be good, to match what we're doing with .rpm files. Reduces confusion. While you're at it, it would be nice to host them also on SF, so we have a one place that holds all the wine packages. -- Dimi. Well, I am condensing it down. Here's what I think we

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Dimitrie O. Paun
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 02:56:43PM -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote: wine : depends on libwine, contains the binaries for running windows programs libwine : contains everything needed to run windows applications libwine-dev : contains the files needed to compile windows applications with winelib

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Vincent Béron
Le mar 23/11/2004 à 05:32, Scott Ritchie a écrit : The Debian packages have gotten rather out of date, and it looks like Ove's not going to be making them any more. I took the initiative and decided to try making one myself. I'm polishing off a new Debian package now. Are you (or plan to

Re: Packaging Questions, New Debian Package, Packagers Guide

2004-11-23 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Tue, Nov 23, 2004 at 05:16:17PM -0500, Dimitrie O. Paun wrote: I sat down for 15 minutes and revised it a bit. Open for comments. Looks good to me. We may want to add a bit of a stronger warning at the top (maybe?) that the config file is obsolete, and will go away, so don't bother to