Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-10 Thread Dan Kegel
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote: For Windows conformance test validation: 1st tier:  Win XP 32 bit, Win 2003 32 bit, Win Vista 32 and 64 bit, Win 2008 32 bit Having tests pass on all these platforms is of course a worthwhile goal, but it can't be

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-09 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com writes: Here's one possible set of definitions: For Windows conformance test validation: 1st tier: Win XP 32 bit, Win 2003 32 bit, Win Vista 32 and 64 bit, Win 2008 32 bit Having tests pass on all these platforms is of course a worthwhile goal, but it can't be made

Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
Even without any new features, it seems to me that passing all tests on all platforms might all on its own merit a new stable release. That said, by the time we have that, we might well have 64 bit support working, too... - Dan

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: Even without any new features, it seems to me that passing all tests on all platforms might all on its own merit a new stable release. Grouping platforms by age: 2000 and earlier have 75 rows with red or mixed, XP/2003/Vista/2008

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread James Mckenzie
Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote on March 8th: It almost feels within our grasp for midyear... how 'bout it? I would like to add that these tests should also pass on the MacOSX platform as well. +1 to the idea, Dan. James McKenzie

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM, James Mckenzie jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net wrote: It almost feels within our grasp for midyear... how 'bout it? I would like to add that these tests should also pass on the MacOSX platform as well. As in, they already do, or as in, that should be a release

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Paul Vriens
Dan Kegel wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Paul Vriens paul.vriens.w...@gmail.com wrote: For that sole reason I started with installing a basic W2K box without servicepacks and patches. The last remaining few failures on my boxes are not the easiest ones but there are loads of (easier to

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com writes: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: Even without any new features, it seems to me that passing all tests on all platforms might all on its own merit a new stable release. Grouping platforms by age: 2000 and earlier have 75 rows

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote: I don't think tests passing on Windows is a reason for a release, it has very little impact on the Wine code. In the vast majority of cases these are tests that already succeed on Wine and on some Windows versions, so

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Alexandre Julliard
Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com writes: I've been itching to do another release for a while, since what we have now is a lot better than 1.0. Your position has been that what's blocking release is the lack of a new feature (you listed several, any of which you felt would suffice). How do you feel

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Scott Ritchie
Alexandre Julliard wrote: Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com writes: I've been itching to do another release for a while, since what we have now is a lot better than 1.0. Your position has been that what's blocking release is the lack of a new feature (you listed several, any of which you felt would

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Austin English
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: Even without any new features, it seems to me that passing all tests on all platforms might all on its own merit a new stable release. By 'all platforms', do you mean all Windows versions, or Linux/OS X/BSD/Solaris? -- -Austin

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Alexandre Julliard julli...@winehq.org wrote: 64-bit support isn't too far away, so if we put some more effort into it that should be achievable in the near future  It seems we could reasonably start the release process 3 months from now. That would be

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org wrote: I do have one question though: do we mean regressions relative to any beta Wine, or just regressions relative to 1.0.1?  I prefer the less strict approach if it means more frequent releases I think the users will expect

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com wrote: Even without any new features, it seems to me that passing all tests on all platforms might all on its own merit a new stable release. By 'all platforms', do you mean all Windows versions, or Linux/OS

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Austin English
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: But now that you ask, we do have a lot of platforms to consider.  We simply can't provide the same level of support for them all. The gcc project defines three tiers of support.  If we did that, it might look like this: We would

Fwd: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread David Gerard
to list as well -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Date: 2009/3/8 Subject: Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms? To: Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com 2009/3/8 Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com: For graphics cards: 1st tier

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Austin English
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com wrote: But now that you ask, we do have a lot of platforms to consider.  We simply can't provide the same level of support for them all. The gcc project

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Dan Kegel
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Austin English austinengl...@gmail.com wrote: For Windows conformance test validation: 1st tier:  Win XP 32 bit, Win 2003 32 bit, Win Vista 32 and 64 bit, Win 2008 32 bit 2nd tier: Win XP 16 bit, Win 95, Win 98, Win ME, Win 7 32 and 64 bit 3rd tier: Win 3.1,

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Ben Klein
2009/3/9 Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org: Starting the release process three months from now would be a really good thing.  It would put us just in time for the next wave of distro releases (Ubuntu 9.10 among them), which would get 1.2 to millions of new desktops.  As it stands, only 135,150

Re: Sufficient 1.2 release criterion: passing all tests on all platforms?

2009-03-08 Thread Scott Ritchie
Ben Klein wrote: 2009/3/9 Scott Ritchie sc...@open-vote.org: Starting the release process three months from now would be a really good thing. It would put us just in time for the next wave of distro releases (Ubuntu 9.10 among them), which would get 1.2 to millions of new desktops. As it