Donations - RFC

2004-06-18 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Everyone, Say, I've gotten in a few fairly generous donations lately, and so the Wine fund has a bit of money (around $800, afair). Now, the bulk of that is marked for embezzlement g, but it does leave a bit left over that could go to help Wine. The question is: how could that money be spent

Re: Acknowledgment page

2004-08-13 Thread Jeremy White
Here's a question for you - should money contribution's credit expire? If someone donated 100$ some five years ago, should we still list them? Another comment on this - - I have a list of names that have donated to Wine over the past 2 years - some folks quite generously - and yet I don't feel

Re: RFC re winmm/time.c

2004-10-10 Thread Jeremy White
, and will eventually + * bring the event triggers back onto a schedule that is + * consistent with what would have happened if there were + * no delays. + * + * Jeremy White, October 2004 */ #define MMSYSTIME_MININTERVAL (1) #define MMSYSTIME_MAXINTERVAL (65535) -#define

Re: winmm/time.c change

2004-10-12 Thread Jeremy White
That %04lx:/GetCurrentThreadId() shouldn't be there, that's the job of +tid debug channel. Whoops. Thought I cleaned out all of my debug changes, but I missed one. Thanks for catching it. Jer

Wineconf 2005

2004-10-08 Thread Jeremy White
Hey Folks, It's that time again, time to plan for another Wineconf. There has been some back room chatter about Wineconf this year, but no definitive plans. A small cabal of people (myself included) think that we should hold it in Southern Germany around February/March. Marcus and Michael have

Re: Wineconf 2005

2004-10-08 Thread Jeremy White
Just wanted to reiterate the Cyprus idea (Jeremy, please don't tell me you didn't see it coming). If it's there, I'll take care of administrative stuff (hotel, conference rooms, etc.). Shachar, I have issues with Cyprus. First, it's a minimum of two transfers and 16 hours on a plane for me to

[OT] Anyone want to write a book on Wine?

2004-10-08 Thread Jeremy White
Hey folks, I've had an editor approach me about writing a book on Wine; it's not something I or anyone around here expressed a strong interest in. However, she seems very nice, and so I offered to pass her query along and see if anyone else is interested. If you are, please contact her directly;

Re: Wineconf 2005

2004-10-18 Thread Jeremy White
Joerg Mayer wrote: Hello All, would you consider having Wineconf 2005 during Linuxtag in Karlsruhe (Germany)? Linuxtag is from 22.-25. 06. 2005. I will ask the organizers of Linuxtag tomorrow whether they would be willing to provide infrasturccture during the event unless I hear a definitve no

Re: How difficult would it be to make the equivalent of Windows Terminal Server with Wine?

2004-10-28 Thread Jeremy White
Hey Andrew, That's something we've investigated fairly closely, as it seems like a Good Idea (TM). First, as far as I know, there is no public implementation around the ICA protocol, so that doesn't seem like a good option. Now RDP is based on an IETF protocol spec, so implementing that looks like

RFC: yield on Waits

2004-11-01 Thread Jeremy White
Hi folks, Due to my new found belief that all of the flaws in Wine are timing problems, I have found what appears to be a gaping hole in Wine's timing behavior. Specifically, it appears as though any style of Waitxxx is supposed to yield the processor. This seems a bit difficult for me to believe,

Correct time stamps on x11 events

2004-11-02 Thread Jeremy White
Log message: Fix x11 event timing so that we correctly correlate x11 timing and Wine timing and dynamically adjust it as we go. Index: event.c === RCS file: /home/wine/wine/dlls/x11drv/event.c,v retrieving revision 1.37 diff -u

Re: RFC: yield on Waits

2004-11-02 Thread Jeremy White
Hmm. My own test program has a clear demonstration that this isn't quite right; a 'sleep2 -1 10we' shows that having an event trigger a wait gets the waiting thread some priority back. This suggests that adding if (ret == WAIT_TIMEOUT) prior to the NtYieldExecution() gives the best

Re: Enabling gcov patch not accepted

2004-11-11 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Aaron, Alexandre is not that fast in the very best of times (your patch was submitted 2 days ago, and he can often take a week or more to get to a patch). Further, Alexandre is currently on an airplane to Switzerland and will be out of reach for at least another 4 days. However, he does not

Re: epoll, LSB (was: Re: Problem roundup)

2004-11-21 Thread Jeremy White
LSB 3, on the other hand, is going to add Gnome support, so they're at least thinking about the desktop now. (Your other objections - FreeType, fontconfig, libjpeg, OpenSSL, etc - could be packaged along with an LSB implementation of Wine, so they're not really an issue.) Forgive the slight shift

Wineconf committee

2004-11-24 Thread Jeremy White
Hey folks, Brian, Alexandre, and I have been talking with some kind folks that are volunteering to help host Wineconf in Stuttgart; we're thinking late spring for Stuttgart. We've also had a generous offer to help set up a meeting in conjunction with LinuxTag in Karlruhe in mid to late June. This

RFC: Use editline in winedbg

2004-12-04 Thread Jeremy White
Hi folks, The attached patch dynamically detects and uses the BSD licensed editline library (a pretty close replacement for readline), if it's available. This gives winedbg command line recall. This gets around readline's license requirements. I'm nervous because I wasn't sure if that was the only

Re: RFC: Use editline in winedbg

2004-12-04 Thread Jeremy White
Robert Shearman wrote: Jeremy White wrote: Hi folks, The attached patch dynamically detects and uses the BSD licensed editline library (a pretty close replacement for readline), if it's available. This gives winedbg command line recall. I think this should be available via Win32 calls without

Re: Fix for winedbg; disassemble range was flawed

2004-12-04 Thread Jeremy White
This updated version prevents an infinite loop in the (currently impossible) case of a poorly specified disassembly range. Truth is, this functions interface is a bit awkward. Jeremy White wrote: Changelog: Properly respect a disassemble x,y command (prior behavior would do y-x instructions

mdi.c/MDI_ChildActivate query

2004-12-05 Thread Jeremy White
Hi, When trying to run 'Swiss Perfect' (www.swissperfect.com, free download available), the app crashes and burns while processing a WM_MDIACTIVATE message when the prevWnd is 0. If I modify the code as in the attached patch, everything works. I can't determine if the app is flawed or if this is a

Re: Allow output in winedbg to be redirected to a file

2004-12-06 Thread Jeremy White
Eric Pouech wrote: Jeremy White a écrit : Changelog: Allow and output redirection on winedbg commands to capture output to a file. again (it's my bad day for Jer), I think we should stick to gdb commands: see 'set logging' and friends. Hmm. I've never liked the gdb 'set logging' interface

Re: Wine(server) priority inversion on CK kernel mailing list

2005-01-09 Thread Jeremy White
These could just be the usual known slow wineserver communication effects at work here, but I wanted to make sure you know about these issues on the CK list. I suspect that the issue is much deeper than just the wineserver effects; Windows scheduling requirements are fundamentally different than

Re: Palm OS Desktop Wine

2005-01-11 Thread Jeremy White
Referring to the following message: http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-users/2004/12/0091.html USB in iTunes is said to work with a lot of fiddling about. Your best resource may be: http://www.codeweavers.com/site/support/docs/crossover-pro/troubleshooting#ITUNES-IPOD I think it explains the

Re: [ck] Re: Threading issues? [ck-request@vds.kolivas.org: ck Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16]

2005-01-13 Thread Jeremy White
Well the scheduler is not going to be rewritten any time soon (trust me, I've tried :P). Tell me what remaining requirements your threads have that you are unable to achieve at the moment and I'll see if I can help with my understanding of the priority system as it is, in a generic way that

Re: [ck] Re: Threading issues? [ck-request@vds.kolivas.org: ck Digest, Vol 3, Issue 16]

2005-01-13 Thread Jeremy White
[snipping further proof that I don't understand a wide range of issues g] Fourth, based on your reply to my earlier email, I suspect I do not understand how time quanta are assigned. In fact, I had come to some conclusions at one point last fall, that I can no longer convince myself of (I was

Re: twain_32/tests: Link with twain_32.dll.

2009-02-27 Thread Jeremy White
Francois Gouget wrote: --- winetest can detect if twain_32.dll is there or not, and if it's missing there's nothing to test anyway. Note that make_makefiles will need to be run. This patch breaks make crosstest for me: [apevia:~/w/wine/dlls/twain_32/tests] make crosstest

Re: dlls/userenv: fixed stubs GetUserProfileDirectoryW/A (4)

2009-03-05 Thread Jeremy White
Much less important but still: please remove trailing whitespaces. 'git apply' should not produce any warnings. I've discovered that if you use git-add to fully stage your commit, you can then run: git-diff-index --check HEAD immediately prior to committing; that will catch such warnings

Re: [sane.ds 4/4] More correctly detect an end of scan job from sane; this enables Acrobat to pull multiple pages in one scan.

2009-03-05 Thread Jeremy White
Sorry; I made a basic mistake (failed to check --without-sane). Resending hopefully corrected patch. Cheers, Jeremy

Status of TWAIN and SANE

2009-03-06 Thread Jeremy White
Alexandre is right; text files that bit rot are a rotten way to report status. Better is to write verbose emails that make people click delete quickly grin. I've been working on improving Wine's scanner support for the past few weeks, and it's come a long way. If anyone has a scanner, and wants

Re: SOC 2009: Application Test Suite

2009-03-25 Thread Jeremy White
Roderick Colenbrander wrote: Hi Austin, Not sure if you are aware of it but there is also cxtest which was written by codeweavers under the gpl. See http://cxtest.ifne.eu:82/ it seems they (still?) use it regulary to track regressions. I haven't looked at it and don't know that autohotkey

Re: Janitor: list.h functions defined but not used

2009-04-19 Thread Jeremy White
Glenn L. McGrath wrote: Hi all, im new to the list, im interested in grinding away at some of the warnings wine generates... Welcome to Wine, and thanks! Be cautioned that open source projects can be brutal and mean places. I think Wine is one of the nicer ones, but that mostly means that our

Re: Wine patch code review or what to do if patches get stuck?

2009-04-21 Thread Jeremy White
Sometimes no feedback means that you just dont know - is there something wrong? Or maybe your patch wos not understood correctly? Or there are doubts that what you did is right? Or what? It would be better to have feedback like are you serious? than nothing at all :) I've tried to update the

Re: /. wants a fork

2009-05-25 Thread Jeremy White
Not sure, but I see the second time around was a success for him.. First attempt on the subject : http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=viewid=4193755 http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=viewid=4193755 Ah. I see; he apparently believes that CrossOver has a DIB Engine and we've been holding

Wineconf 2009 and funding

2009-05-30 Thread Jeremy White
What is the status of the Wine Party Fund this year, to help with the cost of transportation/lodging? I remember quite a bit of it was used up last year... I see no reason to change the practice of providing travel sponsorships. I believe the WPF is lower this year than last, so we may be

Re: cd-roms that need unhide

2009-06-06 Thread Jeremy White
What say? Would this help users more than it would hurt? Dan, can you just quick check the file system type? If it's UDF, then it's a known issue. I basically need to do my patch again, but for the UDF file system. My original work was just for ISO9660; I failed to realize that DVDs had

Fun news about CodeWeavers

2009-07-24 Thread Jeremy White
http://www.codeweavers.com/about/general/press/20090724/ *grin* Cheers, Jeremy

Wineconf drumbeat - don't sleep on the streets!

2009-09-10 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Folks, It's now close enough to November that you can't blow this email off grin. We've got all the info here: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2009 Our challenge this year is that we're managing the booking, so we need a firm head count ahead of time. Again, if money is an issue, and you

Re: Wineconf drumbeat - don't sleep on the streets!

2009-09-10 Thread Jeremy White
Just how does one switch the PayPal interface to Euro I wonder ;) Actually, Paypal takes Euros just fine (we use it at CodeWeavers), but it was rather remiss of me to not set that up *first* :-(. I need to connect with the SFC guys to get that set, so bear with me for a few days while I iron

Re: search path redux - if office 2007 always uses a private riched20, why does wine interpose its own global one?

2009-10-16 Thread Jeremy White
I think we never pursued the question Dan posed in this subject line. That is, Powerpoint 2007 makes the following call: Call KERNEL32.LoadLibraryA(0033c0a8 C:\\Program Files\\Common Files\\Microsoft Shared\\office12\\riched20.dll) It's clearly trying to load it's private dll. Instead of

Re: search path redux - if office 2007 always uses a private riched20, why does wine interpose its own global one?

2009-10-17 Thread Jeremy White
Dan Kegel wrote: I think your approach is peachy, but Alexandre wanted a version check; look at his most recent post in this thread: Alexandre wanted a version check when asked a different question. That question was when would we prefer an available native Richedit over the builtin one.

Re: search path redux - if office 2007 always uses a private riched20, why does wine interpose its own global one?

2009-10-17 Thread Jeremy White
Alexandre Julliard wrote: Dan Kegel d...@kegel.com writes: OK, so even on an absolute path, we need to do a version check, and only use the bundled copy if it's newer than builtin? (That's what I thought you meant earlier.) Yes, and even that may not be enough, it may have to be

Re: [oleaut32] StructArg tests cannot rely on an unpacked structure memcmp.

2009-10-24 Thread Jeremy White
Austin English wrote: On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Jeremy White jwh...@codeweavers.com wrote: Has the side effect of preventing a test failure which occurs only when running with +heap. Woohoo! Should fix: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14078 No; this patch doesn't address

tmarshal patch for consideration

2009-10-24 Thread Jeremy White
:00 2001 From: Jeremy White jwh...@codeweavers.com Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:11:05 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] Report errors when [un]marshalling unknown types. --- dlls/oleaut32/tmarshal.c | 12 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/dlls/oleaut32/tmarshal.c b

Re: What to do when un-nominating bugs for 1.2

2009-11-08 Thread Jeremy White
Hey Dan, Dan Kegel wrote: In the gcc world, when a bug is targeted for release X and doesn't make it in time, it is retargeted for release X+1. So when 1.0 rolled around, I retargeted the leftover 1.0-targeted bugs at 1.2. Can we do the same this time, and retarget 1.2 bugs for 1.4 if they're

My script for doing testing

2009-11-25 Thread Jeremy White
So I have done my penance for failing to set up a cron to run testing. I've got routine testing going every night on 2 boxes. It seems solid. I see that many others have done this as well - test.winehq.org wine results are really looking good. As promised, I'm attaching the script I'm using.

Slackware packager?

2009-12-01 Thread Jeremy White
So Adam Schreiber reports that he's no longer doing the Slackware packages. Is there an active Packager currently? If so, can you submit a patch to remove Adam's name and insert yours? If not, I guess I'll submit a patch to remove that column for Slackware... Cheers, Jeremy

Re: Introducing WineTestBot

2009-12-01 Thread Jeremy White
Let me be the first to thank Ge for this awesome piece of work. Seconded! It's really quite slick, for anyone that hasn't used it. It's a very nice way to quickly feel comfortable that the test you just wrote actually works in more places than just your mind. Thanks again! Cheers, Jeremy

Celebrating Wine 1.0

2008-06-17 Thread Jeremy White
Woohoo Alexandre just posted the Wine 1.0 commit! I eagerly did my git update and enjoyed running 'wine --version'. Ooo. I'm going to do it again... Let us all have a moment of silence to mourn the passing of the Wine 1.0 jokes grin. Seriously, this is a major milestone for the Wine

Re: Website down

2008-06-17 Thread Jeremy White
Austin English wrote: Did we get slashdotted/dugg to death? Not quite death, but it's pretty tough sailing right now. I think we could have handled one or the other, but both together are apparently more than our current systems can handle. We've stopped mysqld for the moment to try to ride

Announcing dates and location for Wineconf 2008

2008-07-02 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Folks, Thanks to the volunteer efforts of James Ramey (new guy in our office), we now have a great venue for WineConf 2008. I've put together a page on it here: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2008 The key details are that it will be over the weekend of September 27 and 28, at a hotel in

Re: winequartz.drv Mac OS X UI discontinued?

2008-07-04 Thread Jeremy White
Hi, Maybe this could be further queried as: What is CodeWeaver's offical stance on supporting a Mac OS X native user interface when the code becomes stable and supportable? and Would CodeWeavers consider bringing Emmanuel on as a paid employee at that time to ensure that the code is

Re: winequartz.drv Mac OS X UI discontinued?

2008-07-05 Thread Jeremy White
We probably curse his decisions as much or more than any Wine developer, and whether or not Objective C *blush* Teach me to send email late at night on a foreign computer. The point is that CodeWeavers has no control over whether or not Emmanuel's code goes into Wine. That's entirely

Summer of code - thank you Maarten

2008-08-27 Thread Jeremy White
Just as a complete side note, I have been very impressed at how well organized SOC has been this year, and I blame Maarten grin. I've really appreciated seeing the regular calls for updates, and the follow through that has resulted. Nicely done, and thank you Maarten! Cheers, Jeremy

Wineconf - final reminder!

2008-09-16 Thread Jeremy White
Folks, Just 11 days until Wineconf. Come celebrate Wine 1.0! http://wiki.winehq.org/WineConf2008 I'll start up a thread for RSVPs and such on the wineconf mailing list. Cheers, Jeremy

Discussion of bug versions

2008-09-28 Thread Jeremy White
We discussed bugzilla versions at Wineconf, re: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12728 There were several points of consensus. First, it would be helpful if we could reduce the number of versions visible in the drop down box when entering a new bug. That would seem to require a bugzilla

Re: Bug squish party!

2008-09-29 Thread Jeremy White
I completely forgot to write to the broader list to let you know that we successfully added 1 more machine - Stefans - to the list of computers that run make test successfully. (We also got James Hawkins Windows box down to 1 failure, and eliminated an enormous number of other test failures). I

Re: Wineconf follow up: Cosmetic website changes

2008-10-06 Thread Jeremy White
Oh, I don't know. Seems to me that the wiki it's a *better* landing page for newbies; it does a better job of leading them by the hand without making them scroll or click. I disagree. People still have an expectation that a 'front page' has some sort of introductory component to it. And

Re: gdi32: Add more font substitution tests, make them pass under Wine

2008-10-08 Thread Jeremy White
Dmitry, This patch has triggered a bug in make test for me; I only notice it when I put a Windows flavor of arial.ttf into my windows/fonts directory. The specific failure is in get_glyph_indices when we're passing in a symbol charset (i.e. the 3rd loop). I've tracked it to line 3461 of

Favor: review refactor of gdi32/freetype.c - AddFontToList

2008-10-09 Thread Jeremy White
it. There is a fair amount of special case logic in this function, and I know that our regression tests do not exercise it all. Thanks, Jeremy From 03033f6e29df9d57ba9fc9232ebe648436d84458 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jeremy White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:47:52 -0500 Subject

Re: Sugared Wine

2008-10-11 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Markus, Judging by the photoshopped image you put an an Windows-like desktop designed for adults into a desktop designed for childs. Now, if you'd at least hide the original (sugar) desktop you'd re-gain precious screen space and wouldn't have to explain the childs when to use

Re: wine users forum registration issue

2008-10-22 Thread Jeremy White
Right. So the forum software is broken, and all of the Wine devs would rather fix Wine than the forums? Sounds like a good case for ditching the forums. I disagree violently. The case for the forums is clear; users prefer them by a rather large amount. If we're going to provide user facing

Re: wine users forum registration issue

2008-10-23 Thread Jeremy White
Not sure what they are complaining about - worked for me first time around. I think some people might have problems with: 1. Entering lower case text instead of caps Well, I'll have Jer add a note to that effect right away. Can't hurt. 2. Not knowing (and not willing to find out) who is the

Present Wine at CeBit?

2008-10-30 Thread Jeremy White
Anyone want to give a presentation on Wine at CeBit? http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/cebit_open_source_linux_magazine_and_linux_foundation_announce_call_for_projects/(kategorie)/0 If you're interested, email me privately, and I'll connect you with Britta. Cheers, Jeremy

Governance of Wine with respect to the Software Freedom Conservancy

2008-11-14 Thread Jeremy White
Hi folks, As you may recall, several years ago, we decided to work with the Software Freedom Conservancy to ask them to manage aspects of Wine that merited the shield of a formal organization. They have been great, and a great improvement over our former process. I thought I'd send an email out

RFC: Proposed new web site design

2008-11-24 Thread Jeremy White
At Wineconf, we made the decision to change the entry page to the Wine web site. The hope was to simplify and stream line it, and to put in place the infrastructure to start moving more content to the Wiki. Jeremy Newman and Jon Parshall have put a lot of time and energy into a proposed new

Re: RFC: Proposed new web site design

2008-11-25 Thread Jeremy White
Thanks for all the feedback, folks; I have to admit that was a bit overwhelming. I've read through it all, and have tried to digest it, below. But I think there is a strong sense here that no one likes a web site designed by committee. Given that, I think the plan will be to adjust based on

Re: RFC: Proposed new web site design

2008-12-22 Thread Jeremy White
Hey Tom, That was slick, the mock up listed Bordeaux under third party apps and when the site went live it was somehow removed :D Well, the mockup had a fairly crummy presentation of Bordeaux; I meant to ask Steven to submit a better put together version, with nicer graphics and such,

Re: CreateScalableFontResourceW

2008-12-30 Thread Jeremy White
I've had a series of patches on this, that I think have been gradually growing less wrong. The 9/17 patches were the last set that were useful by themselves; you should try to get those to apply: http://www.winehq.org/pipermail/wine-patches/2008-September/061696.html My current belief is

Re: [twain_32 2/7] Add an interactive set of tests for a selected scanner.

2009-01-28 Thread Jeremy White
+rc = pDSM_Entry(appid, source, DG_CONTROL, DAT_CAPABILITY, MSG_GET, cap); Bletch. Forgot to add --attach. I'll resend the series. Sorry :-/. Cheers, Jeremy

Re: wine.budgetdedicated.com down?

2009-02-01 Thread Jeremy White
Would it be possible to host the Wine packages somewhere with higher availability? My sense is that budgetdedicated has largely had a stellar track record, and that we should, in addition to our great thanks and praise, give them the benefit of the doubt. Scott, I looped you directly in the

Re: imagicos

2009-02-10 Thread Jeremy White
EA Durbin wrote: I just saw this linux distribution on distrowatch. They claim to be able to run all microsoft products. Interesting. Just for the record, these folks are customers of ours. It is my belief that their distribution of CrossOver complies with all of the terms of the LGPL; we try

Re: [sane.ds 1/3] Get resolution from sane, instead of hard coding -1.

2009-02-12 Thread Jeremy White
I'm sorry; I failed to do a git-add options.c prior to this commit. Please use this patch instead. Cheers, Jeremy From d0c4a185b93a8b3040f4b7ffc001fa3f8f7b0199 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Jeremy White jwh...@codeweavers.com Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:22:46 -0600 Subject: [PATCH] Get

Re: [sane.ds try2 1/3] Get resolution from sane, instead of hard coding -1.

2009-02-13 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Juan, The other comment is, is adding a new file (option.c) really necessary? If you're planning to expand it a lot, perhaps, but just for this one small function it looks like overkill to me. This remark still stands. Yes, I am planning on expanding options.c a fair amount, and I'm

[Fwd: Windows on Linux App of the Year]

2009-02-15 Thread Jeremy White
We've won the 'Windows on Linux' award of the year on LinuxQuestions.org again (by quite a large margin, I might add). Woohoo! Cheers, Jeremy ---BeginMessage--- Jeremy, Hope you've been well. It's my pleasure to inform you that wine has once again been selected as the Windows on Linux App of

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Jeremy White
I think we should also move the text This endorsement is the primary recognition that CodeWeavers has requested in exchange for hosting the Wine web site. to the bottom of the page, and change it to read Thanks to CodeWeavers for hosting WineHQ.org. +1 To be very honest, that would hurt.

Re: Wine download page usability problem

2009-02-20 Thread Jeremy White
No argument there, but the thing you want prominently placed is the download link, not the thankyou, right? Oh, sorry; I didn't understand. I was trying to be honorable on this point by clearly revealing why that prominent placement was given to us; a truth in advertising sort of thing. I can

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-09-28 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Stefan, I'm torn; I'm glad my threat seems to be working, but I was starting to enjoy the idea of having Wineconf here... Here are some questions i like to get clarified before i start: * What are you willing to pay for the meeting space ? I was quoted a rough cost estimate of $60-70 per

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-09-29 Thread Jeremy White
Boaz Harrosh wrote: Just a crazy taught: What about a twin Wineconf, one in north-America one in Europe taking place at the same time with live tele-conference. (Europe cameras on me) I am sure it will be good for publicity, Journalists like that stuff. But seriously how many are European

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-10-02 Thread Jeremy White
I think the key factor is not a place, but someone who is willing to pull it all together. If you're saying you'll do that, Ivan, I think folks would be interested. However, I do think Germany is more central to more Wine hackers (seems like it ought to be easy for at least some of us); and I

Re: Wineconf 2004, otherwise known as...

2003-10-04 Thread Jeremy White
That said - will someone who attended the previous wineconf tell us how many people participated then? How many days of conference can we make it? There were about 30-40 people (attendance differed on the 2 days); it was a 2 day event. Bear in mind that 20 of those folks had their travel paid

Wineconf - survey

2003-10-06 Thread Jeremy White
Hi everyone, I've put up a survey page here: http://www.winehq.org/wineconf/ I'd like to ask everyone who would come to Wineconf to go and enter their preferences. If you would not come to Wineconf regardless of where it was held, please do not fill out the survey. Let's hold this open through

Wineconf survey - interim results - call for more votes

2003-10-08 Thread Jeremy White
Hi folks, I've posted interim results at http://www.winehq.org/wineconf/midresults.html It looks like St. Paul and Munich are the leading contenders, but I'm concerned that we have a fairly modest turnout (although I and several others at CodeWeavers haven't voted yet). I haven't done any

Re: Wineconf - survey

2003-10-12 Thread Jeremy White
Ivan Leo Murray-Smith wrote: Let's hold this open through Friday, and then let's consider it final. An the results are? You can see the results at http://www.winehq.org/wineconf/wineconf.htm (click on the 'Total' frame at the bottom; MS Excel has awful export to the web functions). I conclude

Re: Wine Start menu

2003-10-13 Thread Jeremy White
Codeweavers has done a lot of work with shortcuts menuitems, to make them work with different distros... so they might know what some of the nitty-gritty details are (Unfortunately, I do not). Do you know if it is possible to recycle code from them? Since there product seems to be

Proposal to resolve the issue of the broken wine-users gateway

2003-10-23 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Folks, Say, Just chatting on IRC today, and ShadowHawk pointed out that a host of other sites (Franks corner, etc) have sprung up almost entirely because there are no user based forums on winehq.org. This is, in part, due to the fact that the gateway between the newsgroup and wine-users is

Re: WineConf 2004

2003-10-26 Thread Jeremy White
Yes, sorry, I've been quite remiss. Things are a bit crazy here at the moment (we ship version next tomorrow), but I very much mean to have an official announcement and web site up asap. Also, since there will be some Wine folks on the move right around the same time as LinuxWorld NY, I've put in

Re: Wiki

2003-11-03 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Mike, We had a FAQ-o-matic for a while. It was, in my opinion (and with all due respect to Andreas), awful. Nobody other than Andi maintained it and it sprawled out of control and wasn't really of use to anyone. I think searchable forums and well written FAQs are the way to go. I find that

Announcing Wineconf 2004

2003-11-04 Thread Jeremy White
Hi folks, Okay, I've finally put together a web page and mailing list to centralize our information about Wineconf. You can view the page here: www.winehq.org/wineconf/ It's just a start; there are lots of details to fill in, but now everyone has a place to look. I'd appreciate it if

LinuxWorld Expo NY

2003-11-13 Thread Jeremy White
Hi All, I somewhat impetuously requested a table for the Wine Project at the LinuxWorld New York expo, without really thinking if anyone could man the table. We'll have a CodeWeavers specific area in another part of the expo, so we won't really be able to provide a lot of help (and won't need

Re: LinuxWorld Expo NY

2003-11-13 Thread Jeremy White
Arg! Forgot something basic; January 21-23, 2004, at Javitz center in New York city. Jer On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 16:30, Jeremy White wrote: Hi All, I somewhat impetuously requested a table for the Wine Project at the LinuxWorld New York expo, without really thinking if anyone could man

Re: Wineconf update, RFC re remote participation

2004-01-07 Thread Jeremy White
Telephone conversations are quite cheap nowadays (from Europe, they cost are $3/h!), what about a big conference call. You can break in, ask questions, etc... That will work quite nicely with any sort of telecast from the conference, me thinks. That's an interesting idea; it's conceivable that we

Re: Wineconf update, RFC re remote participation

2004-01-08 Thread Jeremy White
I remember getting all sorts of spam about very cheap conference calling. It can't be that expensive, we just set up a US number, the caller pays the long distance charges (which are very small right now)... Well, we've had a tentative offer from someone to use their conference services; I'll

Re: bogus patch to bind() dlls/winsock/socket.c (request removal)

2004-01-10 Thread Jeremy White
Jeremy Shaw wrote: As a result of this patch (which is currently applied in cvs head): http://www.winehq.com/hypermail/wine-patches/2002/12/0009.html This also makes the Quicktime player unable to view streaming video, although I have to confess I do not know why, except that the bind failure

Re: bogus patch to bind() dlls/winsock/socket.c (request removal)

2004-01-11 Thread Jeremy White
Well, the patch apparently helps in some cases and hurts in others, so the only way to decide is to write a test and determine what the exact behavior is under Windows. I agree the current behavior looks wrong, but that doesn't mean anything when dealing with Microsoft code... A quick foo.c shows

Re: Hi (virus alert)

2004-01-19 Thread Jeremy White
Hi Joshua, Joshua Walker wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] was found as an attachment. A few things amuse me about this... 1) Coadweaves makes a great product, I just hope that this wan't sent from a Linux box running crossover. No; John Sheets hasn't worked with us for a few years, his email has

Re: RFC on our new initiative

2004-01-20 Thread Jeremy White
We are confident that Wine has matured to the point that CrossOver will run 95% of all Windows applications by the end of 2005. Uh, guys, are you sure that isn't over-optimistic? I mean, it seems that Wine is moving faster than ever before and that's great, but do you have any hard facts

Re: RFC on our new initiative

2004-01-21 Thread Jeremy White
As for wine vs Crossover -- I presume that plain old wine users are welcome to participate? If so, then there really isn't a problem. As long as they are talking about usage under CrossOver. We really don't want to confuse our customers. That's a bit stronger than I would put it, Jer.

Re: RFC on our new initiative

2004-01-21 Thread Jeremy White
Did any one contact Xaim to see if they can send any MONO people to wineconf? Is there any vision on how these 2 integrate? I haven't even touched MONO yet ( .NET for that mater), but from the look of it they better use wine for some areas of .NET. Like .Forms. And certainly Wine Loader

Remote access to wineconf

2004-01-29 Thread Jeremy White
Hi folks, It looks as though through the kind help of some folks that we will be able to have video streaming for Wineconf. We'll also be maintaining an irc channel for the conference; #wineconf on freenode (said channel is already open for business, and will be active throughout the weekend).

Wineconf notice

2004-01-30 Thread Jeremy White
Hi all, Barring disaster, we're going to start Wineconf tomorrow morning at 9:30 am. It looks like we'll have streaming video working; I've updated the wineconf page with some instructions, and a Wine tarball that Works For Me (TM) with the Quicktime player (although mplayer works quite well

Re: #winehackers IRC logs

2004-02-13 Thread Jeremy White
I have to confess that I'm mildly uncomfortable with this; I speak more freely in IRC that I do in email, at least in part because of the (admittedly foolish) notion that it's like speech - fleeting and ephmeral. I know that this is foolish on my part; anyone can lurk in an irc channel, and anyone

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