Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2021-10-07 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hey again, About a year later, WireGuard on Windows keeps becoming more advanced and integrated into the operating system, with better service notifications, high speed multi-packet transmission, device arrival notifications, software device management, and so on... the common theme being that the

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-20 Thread akloster
unsubscribe On 11/19/20 10:59 AM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > So, the emphatic takeaway here seems to be that we're not going to > suddenly ditch 25% of people. So, the recent v0.2.y series released > has amped up support for Windows 7, including automatic detection of > KB2921916. > > We'll revis

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-19 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
So, the emphatic takeaway here seems to be that we're not going to suddenly ditch 25% of people. So, the recent v0.2.y series released has amped up support for Windows 7, including automatic detection of KB2921916. We'll revisit the discussion in some amount of time if the market share seems to be

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 6:36 PM Berge Schwebs Bjørlo wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 09:46:32AM +0100, Phillip McMahon wrote: > > Take a look here > > > > https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide > > > > Would seem to suggest Windows 7 is in decline but still

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Berge Schwebs Bjørlo
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 09:46:32AM +0100, Phillip McMahon wrote: > Take a look here > > https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide > > Would seem to suggest Windows 7 is in decline but still represents > around 25% of OS footprint out there. I read 16% from that

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Panagiotis Kalogiratos
It's not really a matter of cost of updating. Windows 10 *STILL* activates using Win7, 8 and 8.1 keys (including OEM licenses implemented via SLIC in BIOS/UEFI by using the COA key on the sticker or directly upgrading an activated Win7 installation). The update is actually free. Stubborn users

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 12:39 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 7:29 AM Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > > > Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of this year. It > > is no longer receiving security updates or fixes. This email is to get > > the conversation started

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Phillip McMahon
actually, they do. it's obsolete. sadly it's still in use at high enough volume that people have to care about it. On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 at 18:41, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 7:29 AM Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > > > Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of thi

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 7:29 AM Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of this year. It > is no longer receiving security updates or fixes. This email is to get > the conversation started about doing the same with WireGuard for > Windows. Microsoft does

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Roman Mamedov
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 09:34:43 +0100 "Jason A. Donenfeld" wrote: > Could you let me know the rationale for your continued use of Windows > 7? Is it economic? Is it just UI preference, and security isn't a > priority to you? Something else? For me, the UI preference absolutely; but security *is* ce

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hi Philip, On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM Phillip McMahon wrote: > > Take a look here > > https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide > > Would seem to suggest Windows 7 is in decline but still represents > around 25% of OS footprint out there. Thanks for sendin

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Phillip McMahon
Take a look here https://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide Would seem to suggest Windows 7 is in decline but still represents around 25% of OS footprint out there. On Thu, 12 Nov 2020 at 09:39, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > Hi Andrew, > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hi Andrew, On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:29 AM Andrew Fried wrote: > > We recently began deploying clusters of recursive DNS "firewalls" that > use wireguard to secure and authenticate all traffic between the client > and servers. What we quickly learned was that virtually the entire > customer bas

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hi Reiner, On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:29 AM Reiner Karlsberg wrote: > I fully understand the intention, to drop support for Win 7. Although I am > still a happy user of it. > I would appreciate a solution, in which further developments of wireguard > still remain backward compatible, > to keep t

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Andrew Fried
We recently began deploying clusters of recursive DNS "firewalls" that use wireguard to secure and authenticate all traffic between the client and servers.   What we quickly learned was that virtually the entire customer base in India uses Windows 7 almost exclusively. I can certainly understand t

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-12 Thread Reiner Karlsberg
Am 10.11.2020 um 14:27 schrieb Jason A. Donenfeld: Hi, Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of this year. It is no longer receiving security updates or fixes. This email is to get the conversation started about doing the same with WireGuard for Windows. Supporting Windows 7 is an

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-10 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 2:05 PM wrote: > FWIW, Microsoft sells extended support (Windows 7 ESU) to corporate > customers using Pro or Enterprise editions. It can be extended until Jan > 10th 2023. > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-7-eos-f > aq/windows-7-exten

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-10 Thread Isaac Boukris
Hello, New to the list :) On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:30 PM Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > > Hi, > > Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of this year. It > is no longer receiving security updates or fixes. This email is to get > the conversation started about doing the same with WireG

RE: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-10 Thread samuel.progin
. Samuel -Original Message- From: WireGuard On Behalf Of Laslo Hunhold Sent: mardi, 10 novembre 2020 13:48 To: wireguard@lists.zx2c4.com Subject: Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support? On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 13:27:20 +0100 "Jason A. Donenfeld" wrote: Dear Jason, > Windo

Re: Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-10 Thread Laslo Hunhold
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 13:27:20 +0100 "Jason A. Donenfeld" wrote: Dear Jason, > Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of this year. It > is no longer receiving security updates or fixes. This email is to get > the conversation started about doing the same with WireGuard for > Windows.

Should we sunset Windows 7 support?

2020-11-10 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hi, Windows 7 has been EOL'd by Microsoft since January of this year. It is no longer receiving security updates or fixes. This email is to get the conversation started about doing the same with WireGuard for Windows. Supporting Windows 7 is an ongoing maintenance burden. For example, we use SHA2