[Ninux-Wireless] Fwd: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-03 Per discussione nemesis



 Original Message 
Subject: [OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 18:59:55 +0100
From: Jo-Philipp Wich 
To: OpenWrt Development List , OpenWrt 
User List 


Hi,

we'd like to introduce LEDE, a reboot of the OpenWrt community
.

The project is founded as a spin-off of the OpenWrt project and shares
many of the same goals.


We are building an embedded Linux distribution that makes it easy for
developers, system administrators or other Linux enthusiasts to build
and customize software for embedded devices, especially wireless 
routers.

 The name 'LEDE' stands for 'Linux Embedded Development Environment'.



Members of the project already include a significant share of the most
active members of the OpenWrt community.
We intend to bring new life to Embedded Linux development by creating a
community with a strong focus on transparency, collaboration and
decentralisation.



LEDE’s stated goals are:


- Building a great embedded Linux distribution with focus on stability
  and functionality.

- Having regular, predictable release cycles coupled with community
  provided device testing feedback.

- Establishing transparent decision processes with broad community
  participation and public meetings.



We decided to create this new project because of long standing issues
that we were unable to fix from within the OpenWrt project/community:


1. Number of active core developers at an all time low, no process for
   getting more new people involved.

2. Unreliable infrastructure, fixes prevented by internal disagreements
   and single points of failure.

3. Lack of communication, transparency and coordination in the OpenWrt
   project, both inside the core team and between the core team and the
   rest of the community.

4. Not enough people with commit access to handle the incoming flow of
   patches, too little attention to testing and regular builds.

5. Lack of focus on stability and documentation.



To address these issues we set up the LEDE project in a different way
compared to OpenWrt:


1. All our communication channels are public, some read-only to
   non-members to maintain a good signal-to-noise ratio.

2. Our decision making process is more open, with an approximate 50/50
   mix of developers and power users with voting rights.

3. Our infrastructure is simplified a lot, to ensure that it creates
   less maintenance work for us.

4. We have made our merge policy more liberal, based on our experience
   with the OpenWrt package github feed.

5. We have a strong focus on automated testing combined with a
   simplified release process

If you're interested in participating or want to learn more about the
project, check out https://www.lede-project.org/.


Sincerely,

Jo-Philipp Wich,
John Crispin,
Daniel Golle,

Felix Fietkau,

Hauke Mehrtens

John Crispin

Matthias Schiffer,

Steven Barth
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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Fwd: Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-03 Per discussione nemesis

L'hanno annunciato qui al battlemesh oggi pomeriggio verso le 4.

https://twitter.com/nemesisdesign/status/727519655368265733

In questa iniziativa ci sono i membri più attivi (e più forti a mio 
avviso) di OpenWRT,
se hanno deciso di fare questo passo evidentemente hanno un ottimo 
motivo per farlo.


Uno di questi motivi è che non si riusciva a migliorare la gestione del 
progetto e della community OpenWRT per problemi interni di alcuni membri 
che si oppongono ad alcuni cambiamenti.


Nemesis




On Wed, 4 May 2016 00:20:16 +0200, Ilario Gelmetti 
 wrote:

Qualcuno dal Battlemesh può commentarci questa bbomba?
Da quel che ho capito: 8 degli sviluppatori principali di OpenWrt 
hanno
deciso di fare un "fork" (cioè copiare lo stato attuale di un 
progetto

ed usarlo come base di partenza per un altro progetto) di OpenWrt,
chiamato LEDE "Linux Embedded Development Environment".
Era davvero necessaria questa nuova frammentazione?


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: [Battlemesh] Introducing the LEDE project
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 20:55:23 +0200
From: John Crispin 
Reply-To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List 
To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List ,
cerowrt-de...@lists.bufferbloat.net, ninux-...@ml.ninux.org,
guifi-...@llistes.guifi.net, gl...@luebeck.freifunk.net,
qmp-...@mail.qmp.cat, wlanw...@freifunk.net

The LEDE project is founded as a spin-off of the OpenWrt project and
shares many of the same goals. We are building an embedded Linux
distribution that makes it easy for developers, system administrators 
or

other Linux enthusiasts to build and customize software for embedded
devices, especially wireless routers. The name 'LEDE' stands for 
'Linux

Embedded Development Environment'.

Members of the project already include a significant share of the 
most
active members of the OpenWrt community. We intend to bring new life 
to
Embedded Linux development by creating a community with a strong 
focus

on transparency, collaboration and decentralisation.

LEDE’s stated goals are:
- Building a great embedded Linux distribution with focus on 
stability

and functionality.
- Having regular, predictable release cycles coupled with community
provided device testing feedback.
- Establishing transparent decision processes with broad community
participation and public meetings.

We decided to create this new project because of long standing issues
that we were unable to fix from within the OpenWrt project/community:
1. Number of active core developers at an all time low, no process 
for

getting more new people involved.
2. Unreliable infrastructure, fixes prevented by internal 
disagreements

and single points of failure.
3. Lack of communication, transparency and coordination in the 
OpenWrt

project, both inside the core team and between the core team and the
rest of the community.
4. Not enough people with commit access to handle the incoming flow 
of

patches, too little attention to testing and regular builds.
5. Lack of focus on stability and documentation.

To address these issues we set up the LEDE project in a different way
compared to OpenWrt:
1. All our communication channels are public, some read-only to
non-members to maintain a good signal-to-noise ratio.
2. Our decision making process is more open, with an approximate 
50/50

mix of developers and power users with voting rights.
3. Our infrastructure is simplified a lot, to ensure that it creates
less maintenance work for us.
4. We have made our merge policy more liberal, based on our 
experience

with the OpenWrt package github feed.
5. We have a strong focus on automated testing combined with a
simplified release process.

We would like to thank the communities using the codebase and would
welcome endorsements. If your community feels that the idea is good 
and

will benefit all our communities as a whole then please post an
endorsement on the lede-dev mailing list.

Find out more on our project website http://lede-project.org/

Daniel Golle
Felix Fietkau
Hauke Mehrtens
Jo-Philipp Wich
John Crispin
Matthias Schiffer
Steven Barth
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[Ninux-Wireless] Fwd: Introducing the LEDE project

2016-05-03 Per discussione Ilario Gelmetti
Qualcuno dal Battlemesh può commentarci questa bbomba?
Da quel che ho capito: 8 degli sviluppatori principali di OpenWrt hanno
deciso di fare un "fork" (cioè copiare lo stato attuale di un progetto
ed usarlo come base di partenza per un altro progetto) di OpenWrt,
chiamato LEDE "Linux Embedded Development Environment".
Era davvero necessaria questa nuova frammentazione?


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: [Battlemesh] Introducing the LEDE project
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 20:55:23 +0200
From: John Crispin 
Reply-To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List 
To: Battle of the Mesh Mailing List ,
cerowrt-de...@lists.bufferbloat.net, ninux-...@ml.ninux.org,
guifi-...@llistes.guifi.net, gl...@luebeck.freifunk.net,
qmp-...@mail.qmp.cat, wlanw...@freifunk.net

The LEDE project is founded as a spin-off of the OpenWrt project and
shares many of the same goals. We are building an embedded Linux
distribution that makes it easy for developers, system administrators or
other Linux enthusiasts to build and customize software for embedded
devices, especially wireless routers. The name 'LEDE' stands for 'Linux
Embedded Development Environment'.

Members of the project already include a significant share of the most
active members of the OpenWrt community. We intend to bring new life to
Embedded Linux development by creating a community with a strong focus
on transparency, collaboration and decentralisation.

LEDE’s stated goals are:
- Building a great embedded Linux distribution with focus on stability
and functionality.
- Having regular, predictable release cycles coupled with community
provided device testing feedback.
- Establishing transparent decision processes with broad community
participation and public meetings.

We decided to create this new project because of long standing issues
that we were unable to fix from within the OpenWrt project/community:
1. Number of active core developers at an all time low, no process for
getting more new people involved.
2. Unreliable infrastructure, fixes prevented by internal disagreements
and single points of failure.
3. Lack of communication, transparency and coordination in the OpenWrt
project, both inside the core team and between the core team and the
rest of the community.
4. Not enough people with commit access to handle the incoming flow of
patches, too little attention to testing and regular builds.
5. Lack of focus on stability and documentation.

To address these issues we set up the LEDE project in a different way
compared to OpenWrt:
1. All our communication channels are public, some read-only to
non-members to maintain a good signal-to-noise ratio.
2. Our decision making process is more open, with an approximate 50/50
mix of developers and power users with voting rights.
3. Our infrastructure is simplified a lot, to ensure that it creates
less maintenance work for us.
4. We have made our merge policy more liberal, based on our experience
with the OpenWrt package github feed.
5. We have a strong focus on automated testing combined with a
simplified release process.

We would like to thank the communities using the codebase and would
welcome endorsements. If your community feels that the idea is good and
will benefit all our communities as a whole then please post an
endorsement on the lede-dev mailing list.

Find out more on our project website http://lede-project.org/

Daniel Golle
Felix Fietkau
Hauke Mehrtens
Jo-Philipp Wich
John Crispin
Matthias Schiffer
Steven Barth
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Re: [Ninux-Wireless] Bozza decreto attuazione direttiva EU

2016-05-03 Per discussione Stefano De Carlo
Il 30/04/2016 14:20, Nemesis ha scritto:
> E' disponibile una bozza del decreto per l'attuazione della normativa EU
> di cui abbiamo parlato sul blog:
>
> http://www.sviluppoeconomico.gov.it/images/stories/documenti/schema_di_decreto_di_attuazione_2014_53_UE.pdf

Ho aggiornato http://wiki.ninux.org/LeggiWireless con una sezione apposita.

Stefanauss.



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