Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread James Howard
We ordered one as soon as they were available. We haven't put into use yet though. We currently have an Asterisk (PbxInaFlash version) server in place and we would have lost a fair amount of capabilities if we had switched already. Every update that comes out adds in some of the stuff that

[WISPA] Skybeam Mentioned in DIGG article link

2014-05-14 Thread Eric Rogers
http://www.feld.com/wp/archives/2014/05/dear-internet-lets-demo-slow-lan e.html They were trying to explain what the slow lane could look like in the future for the web... but LIKE that a WISP was faster than all his home options, except Comcast 75M and Google Fiber at 800M... Good job,

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Eric Rogers
Our consulting firm put one in at a lawyer’s office, to replace an OLD Nortel system. They wanted the simple ability to have an inbound call ring all phones, but if it times out after 3 rings, goto an IVR. We have been doing this for a long time with FreePBX, but it is limited with GS.

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Why do you want to put a 'box' on-site ? Why not hosted PBX, and have IP Phones ? Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Chris Fabien
It seems like a box on site would make routing/nat issues easier to manage especially for customers who may not have our Internet or want to keep a second internet provider for redundancy. It seems like a bunch of ip phones behind nat connecting up to our switch or a hosted solution would be

Re: [WISPA] pay per use billing

2014-05-14 Thread Todd Mitchell
Heith et al., There are a couple of economic questions that you need to answer first: 1. *Is there a customer device expense to your business? i.e. did you send / install a device for the client that allows them to use your service that the client doesn't pay for or pays monthly?*

[WISPA] Redirect clients

2014-05-14 Thread ~NGL~
How can I redirect slow pay clients to a Pay your bill web site. Is there a inexpensive way to do this? What do you suggest? Thanx NGL If you can read this Thank A Teacher. And if it's in English Thank A Soldier! ___ Wireless mailing list

Re: [WISPA] Redirect clients

2014-05-14 Thread Cameron Crum
Most of the billing systems will do this (ours will!), but barring that, you could use the web proxy with some firewall rules to do it in a MT router. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:23 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote: How can I redirect slow pay clients to a Pay your bill web site. Is there a

Re: [WISPA] Redirect clients

2014-05-14 Thread Todd Mitchell
The term for this is 'Captive Portal'. You regularly see this where internet access is paid for on-demand for a period of time (airport, hotel, airplane, etc.). Most commercial ISP billing systems have this functionality built in today. It is either done by intercepting HTTP or DNS requests.

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Scott Carullo
I've never been a fan of anything grandstream has ever made so I wouldn't go there. JMO Get some other solution for the PBX (running your own software on a nice little atom works great / some flavor of asterisk) and do yourself a favor and pick up some yealink phones. The name kept me

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Bryce Duchcherer
I have one of these coming in to try out, they're dirt cheap and are supposed to be decent. They support up to 8 calls and are supposed to run on asterisk. http://www.atcom.cn/IP02.html Bryce D NETAGO From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott

[WISPA] testing

2014-05-14 Thread Blair Davis
testing -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Redirect clients

2014-05-14 Thread Scott Reed
No proxy required, just some NAT rules On 5/14/2014 4:28 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Most of the billing systems will do this (ours will!), but barring that, you could use the web proxy with some firewall rules to do it in a MT router. On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:23 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net

Re: [WISPA] Redirect clients

2014-05-14 Thread ~NGL~
Where do I put these rules, in the router? NGL From: Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Redirect clients No proxy required, just some NAT rules On 5/14/2014 4:28 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Most of the billing systems

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We find it easier to manage nat/routing issues via a hosted pbx. (Pbx is hosted on a Virtual Server VPS at the DataCenter) Using Mikrotik's as client routers (managed router service) is very practical. Setting up Dual ISP with Failover is a bit daunting task, however if you follow this,

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Nathan Anderson
Working around NAT issues with SIP and RTP has little-to-nothing to do with whether the PBX lives in the cloud or is a local piece of hardware. We do not (at this time) do hosted PBX ourselves, and NAT is generally not a problem. Our strategy isn't even to use something like STUN or TURN. It

Re: [WISPA] Redirect clients

2014-05-14 Thread Cameron Crum
Nat rules work as long as you have an ip. If it is a url you will need Web proxyunless this has changed recently. On May 14, 2014 7:56 PM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: No proxy required, just some NAT rules On 5/14/2014 4:28 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Most of the billing systems will

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Agreed, that SIP/RTP NAT issues are non-issue when you are using a consistent Router such as Mikrotik. B2BUA (Back to Back user agent, e.g. asterisk to asterisk) has its advantage and also it's own set of issues (typically in Codec Conversion ... STUN or TURN are not necessary either, all

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Nathan Anderson
Lots to address here. :) Thanks for engaging. By B2BUA, I don't mean Asterisk to Asterisk. I mean something like Asterisk itself...Asterisk is, by its very nature, a self-contained back-to-back user agent. That is, it doesn't just forward SIP messages from a proxy or UA upstream. It

Re: [WISPA] Small IP PBX - Grandstream UCM

2014-05-14 Thread Nathan Anderson
After re-reading what I wrote, I guess I should clarify the following: We have a homegrown SIP-based telephony service that is built on top of Asterisk, but which is emphatically not hosted PBX. We can provision an account as either a single line (one DID, one SIP registration from an ATA, 2