Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Chadwick Wachs
Interesting... Certainly easier to run. Because I have to make two 90 degree turns (damn "H" shaped tower), I think I'll pull my Ethernet through it on the ground and then run it up the tower with cable in it. I'm guessing that cutting it and putting 90 degree elbows (with cable pull windows) on

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Sean Heskett
If you do conduit you need to use liquidtight with the metal inside. EMT will do nothing to stop the RF from bleeding. We've done it on several towers with great success. -Sean On Thursday, September 8, 2016, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I ne

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Shawn C. Peppers
Emt should work but typically you should be using rigid in this type of scenario. Shawn C. Peppers Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment 866-680-8433 Toll Free 480-287-9960 Fax http://www.video-direct.tv > On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > > Agree fiber is the long term so

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Chadwick Wachs
Agree fiber is the long term solution. No argument there and it is in the capital budget. What is stopping us right now is the cost. We are a non-profit so having to buy two EdgePoints (due to the "H" shape of the tower, we are on both legs) and two fiber cables - as well as the fiber transceivers

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Timothy Steele
Running fiber up a tower is low cost and easy now days.. https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgepoint/ What's stopping you from doing fiber? On Thu, Sep 8, 2016, 10:45 PM Kevin Lamothe wrote: > No problem here. I had to use a DC to DC converter though since my sites > are negative DC. > > > On Septem

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Kevin Lamothe
No problem here. I had to use a DC to DC converter though since my sites are negative DC. On September 8, 2016 10:28:11 PM EDT, "Shawn C. Peppers" wrote: >Its been 7 months or more since i had the issue. I heard they planned >to fix it. > >Shawn C. Peppers >Video Direct Satellite & Entertainme

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Shawn C. Peppers
Its been 7 months or more since i had the issue. I heard they planned to fix it. Shawn C. Peppers Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment 866-680-8433 Toll Free 480-287-9960 Fax http://www.video-direct.tv > On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > And this is on the latest revisions

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
And this is on the latest revisions? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2016 10:02 PM, "Shawn C. Peppers" wrote: > I belive its only on the DC version. > > Shawn C. Peppers > Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment > 866-680-8

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Shawn C. Peppers
Correct Shawn C. Peppers Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment 866-680-8433 Toll Free 480-287-9960 Fax http://www.video-direct.tv > On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > >> On 9/8/16 6:34 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: >> Was the Netonix in a metal enclosure? > > > Wasn't the problem t

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Shawn C. Peppers
I belive its only on the DC version. Shawn C. Peppers Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment 866-680-8433 Toll Free 480-287-9960 Fax http://www.video-direct.tv > On Sep 8, 2016, at 8:44 PM, Craig House wrote: > > Do Netonix have the same issue with ac power source or just dc input > interfere

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/8/16 6:41 PM, Shawn C. Peppers wrote: > Yes. The fm noise is induced into the power cable and hits the netonix > power circuit and goes to sh*t. > > This is pointed out in detail on the netonix forum. > Has anyone tried putting a DC-DC converter in front of it? Although that would kinda ne

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Craig House
Do Netonix have the same issue with ac power source or just dc input interference Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 8, 2016, at 20:42, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > On 9/8/16 6:34 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > > Was the Netonix in a metal enclosure? > > > Wasn't the problem that it's picking up the FM no

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/8/16 6:34 PM, Jon Langeler wrote: > Was the Netonix in a metal enclosure? Wasn't the problem that it's picking up the FM noise from the DC input i.e. the copper cable running up the tower? ~Seth ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http:/

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Shawn C. Peppers
Yes. The fm noise is induced into the power cable and hits the netonix power circuit and goes to sh*t. This is pointed out in detail on the netonix forum. Shawn C. Peppers Video Direct Satellite & Entertainment 866-680-8433 Toll Free 480-287-9960 Fax http://www.video-direct.tv > On Sep 8, 20

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Jon Langeler
Was the Netonix in a metal enclosure? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:23 PM, Shawn C. Peppers > wrote: > > I would NOT use a netonix on a FM tower unless they have fully fixed the > issue that was causing fm noise from the tower to effect the power chip in >

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/8/16 6:02 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote: > With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to solve > the FM noise problem once and for all. I've been using Ferrites on each > end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need to > add a couple more antennas so I am

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Shawn C. Peppers
I would NOT use a netonix on a FM tower unless they have fully fixed the issue that was causing fm noise from the tower to effect the power chip in the netonix switch. You will always have issues unless you run fiber and a shielded power cable up the tower. I have had nothing but flawless resu

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Why would you do conduit and copper when it's more expensive and won't work out better? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2016 9:14 PM, "Chadwick Wachs" wrote: > You are right, fiber IS the best long term solution. Not a pos

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Chadwick Wachs
You are right, fiber IS the best long term solution. Not a possibility just yet but will be down the road. So, maybe I re-phrase. :-) Is conduit a workable shorter term solution with shielded cable inside or will it not provide the RF protection the Ethernet needs? It will certainly make pulling t

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Jon Langeler
+1 Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Fiber and DC to Netonix. Shielded cable to your radios hopefully with > minimal distance. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 4

Re: [WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Fiber and DC to Netonix. Shielded cable to your radios hopefully with minimal distance. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 8, 2016 9:03 PM, "Chadwick Wachs" wrote: > With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I nee

[WISPA] Shielding FM noise with conduit?

2016-09-08 Thread Chadwick Wachs
With two new FM stations moving onto the tower I am on, I need to solve the FM noise problem once and for all. I've been using Ferrites on each end of the Ethernet cable and its been pretty successful but I need to add a couple more antennas so I am considering conduit. This is not my area of exp

Re: [WISPA] In-Wall AP UniFi

2016-09-08 Thread Brandon Gilles
Brandon from Ubiquiti here. We've seen a slew of installs w/ hotels and w/ the low power of the UAP-IW performance seems fine. Keep in mind for sure that the best throughput you can expect out of these is ~20-30mbps. These are intended for situations where they'd be installed in each hotel room

Re: [WISPA] Need a ~60ft pole to mount a 2ft dish on

2016-09-08 Thread Dan Petermann
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