Powercode has been aware of this bug since at least January 6th when I created ticket #11362 after we were questioned by the FCC why there were problems with our data.
Powercode responded to the ticket 12 days later saying they were going to fix it. I forwarded the ticket reply to the FCC and they were apparently satisfied with that response. We have continued submitting the Powercode data because it’s the closest thing we have. -Greg From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:44 AM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate Even with their methodology being flawed, it is also very broken and only listing 10% of the blocks where we have customers. I did talk with powercode, they have been aware of this bug for a couple weeks... I stressed that this is a major issue and they really owe their customers to notify them of something like this especially in light of todays deadline for submitting revised data. I am sure most powercode users have been just submitting the generates files. On Aug 31, 2016 1:25 PM, "Kameron Blomquist" <kame...@sightlinewireless.com<mailto:kame...@sightlinewireless.com>> wrote: The deployment data is always wrong, you cant just submit that. It just goes off of subscriber info. We got the deployment data from Towercoverage and use the subscriber data from PC. Kameron B. SightLine Wireless (503) 967-7222<tel:%28503%29%20967-7222> www.sightlinewireless.com<http://www.sightlinewireless.com> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 7:53 AM, Charles Wu <cwu...@gmail.com<mailto:cwu...@gmail.com>> wrote: While I can’t speak directly for PowerCode, I suspect that if you got an unsolicited voicemail from them that they probably have someone monitoring this list. -Charles From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate FYI guys I got a voicemail at my office yesterday afternoon from powercode confirming they are aware of this issue. I have not spoken to them yet and I am not sure if they are aware this is a time critical issue for some WISP who may have CAF funding becoming available for someone to overbuild them due to faulty 477 data. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net<mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote: I can't tell that anything like that is happening with the plans. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com<mailto:ch...@lakenetmi.com>> wrote: I also noticed strange numbers in the speed plans.... sometimes it would line up with a plan that we offered sometimes it would seem to pick a down from one plan and an upload that from a different plan. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Adair Winter <ada...@amarillowireless.net<mailto:ada...@amarillowireless.net>> wrote: That's interesting. so some lines show nothing for and down/up speed. others shows some plan that we have. Is powercode just picking the user with the highest plan for the block and displaying that? hmm On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com<mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote: Deployment is your service offerings to the blocks. Basically, what blocks can you cover at what speeds and with what technology. Subscription counts actual subscribers in tracts. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote: Well then. That sucks. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> ________________________________ From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:11:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate Mike, I should have at least several hundred that actually have subscribers that powercode should have included in the CSV. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: How many blocks are your subscribers in? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ________________________________ From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:06:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate Powercode does not have a real coverage map. They do generate the deployment .csv file, based upon the assumption of reporting any block in which you have a customer as being deployed. That approach will definitely generate incomplete results, but I'm seeing a way way worse problem. Powercode was giving us 22 blocks reported on the deployment CSV, when I did it by hand in GIS software, I have 841 blocks. Something seems to be very broken. I just finished the analysis right now, I will be emailing them shortly. If you guys are blindly dumping your Powercode deployment CSV into 477, you really should check the data yourself somehow. I have talked to one other powercode user who was seeing this problem. He actually had a mapping background and helped me do the analysis in MapInfo. Chris Fabien LakeNet LLC On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: Does PowerCode have any way to calculate the deployment file? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ________________________________ From: "Adair Winter" <ada...@amarillowireless.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:52:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate *shrug* When I do the export from powercode it dumps two .csv files. DeploymentData.csv and SubscriptionData.csv. Both of which I just load in to the fcc 477 site. On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote: Does Powercode do deployment or only subscriber? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ________________________________ From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 10:46:44 AM Subject: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate Working on our 477, mapped the deployment data from powercode in our GIS software, we found it was grossly inaccurate, probably only has 10% of the blocks in the file compared to ones where we have customers. Has anyone else noticed this? 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