----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephen Coran" <sco...@rinicoran.com>
To: <fcccommit...@wispa.org>
Cc: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [FCC Committee] sub 3.7 gig spectrum,comments needed was -- Re: 
FCC Chairman JuliusGenachowskiAnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development of 
NationalBroadband Plan


> It would be contrary to WISPA's previous views in the TV white spaces
> proceeding to now endorse sensing.

Yeah.  Our ORIGINAL stance DID support sensing though.

Either way, we could support sensing as an underlay mechanism across a 
larger part of the spectrum and not hurt the Whitespaces issue.

>
> The draft Outline I'm working on advocates a spectrum audit to determine
> where spectrum is underutilized and where it can be made available more
> efficiently.

That's a tricky one though.  I know that in the past Steve Stroh had told us 
that all of an "educational TV band" 2.5 or something like that, was 
broadcasting the same show, at the same time.  Just as place holders so that 
when the FCC showed up with their spectrum anlyzers the channels showed "in 
use".  Just asking people who's using what will not likely be productive for 
us, we've seen how much money will be spent on spectrum squatting 
mechanisms, let along spectrum purchasing mechanisms.

>  Perhaps that's the 900 MHz band.  Very important to keep
> in mind: the FCC is looking for hard data, not anecdotes, so broad
> claims about the lack of paging systems, hoarding of Part 101 spectrum,
> etc., will not be considered credible and, in fact, might detract from
> WISPA's overall message.  I'd rather let others who have the time and
> resources make the case about underutilization in other bands and simply
> support the idea of spectrum audits.

I disagree with that.  At least for rural markets (this seems to be where 
the focus is anyway).

Our job is to tell them what we think we need as the industry moves forward. 
They may say yes, they may say no.  But to not even ask is an automatic no. 
And asking does no harm.

marlon

>
> There's a lot more to the Outline that I've sent to Jack.  I am waiting
> for input from him (he worked into the wee hours on this last night)
> and, once its in good shape, I'm sure there will be an opportunity for
> FCC committee input, beyond the contributions that have already been
> posted in response to Jack's earlier post.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: fcccommittee-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:fcccommittee-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:00 AM
> To: fcccommit...@wispa.org
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> Subject: [FCC Committee] sub 3.7 gig spectrum,comments needed was -- Re:
> FCC Chairman Julius GenachowskiAnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development of
> National Broadband Plan
>
> Hmmm, I thought that there was one with something like 100 questions on
> it.
> I must have my issues mixed up.
>
> Anyway here's an idea that I think is worth of discussion.
>
> I think we should toss out the idea that sensing mechanisms should be
> allowed so that ANY open frequencies can be used.
>
> A couple of easy examples would be 2.5 ghz bands.  Those are NOT used in
> large parts of the country.  Today's wifi chips will go up to those
> frequencies with a firmware change!  Wifi already has a listen before
> talking mechanism.  It shouldn't be impossible to add a little bit of
> intelligence and coordination to the mechanism and allow a nearly free
> expansion of the 2.4 gig wifi band.
>
> The same could be said for 900mhz.  Most of what's on either side of it
> is paging systems.  Yet many paging systems are long gone now,
> especially in rural areas.  Why not open up the bands on an as available
> basis?
>
> If we can convince the FCC to allow these types of mechanism we could
> have a unlicensed underlay that gives us a LOT more spectrum!
>
> Thoughts?
> marlon
>
> P.S.  I'm tossing this idea back out on the public list for some more
> discussion relating to this idea.  It's a major policy change (for the
> fcc) so I'd like to hear people's thoughts on asking for it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Coran" <sco...@rinicoran.com>
> To: <fcccommit...@wispa.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [FCC Committee] FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski
> AnnouncesSeniorStaff for Development of National Broadband Plan
>
>
>> Here is a link to the Public Notice inviting comments:
>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-09-2100A1.pdf
>>
>> Jack Unger and I are developing an outline of WISPA's Comments based
>> on the Committee members' e-mails and our own thoughts.  Deadline for
>> Comments is next Friday.
>>
>> Stephen E. Coran
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fcccommittee-boun...@wispa.org
>> [mailto:fcccommittee-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
>> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 11:29 PM
>> To: fcccommit...@wispa.org
>> Subject: Re: [FCC Committee] FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski
>> AnnouncesSenior Staff for Development of National Broadband Plan
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I thought we had an NOI to deal with in regards to the National
>> Broadband plan and sub 3.7 GHz spectrum.
>>
>> This is all I can find in the archives though.  Can anyone point me in
>
>> the right direction?
>>
>> Also, I don't remember much, if any, discussion about WISPA people
>> being at any of these meetings.  Did we get people to any of them?  On
>
>> any panels?
>>
>> Or is this the stuff that I couldn't get to and Forbes had to back out
>
>> of at the last minute?  I know that there was something happening in
>> mid sept.
>>
>> Anyway, I'm still looking for a sub 3.7 gig filing, I'd like to toss
>> out some ideas.  I'd appreciate any help in finding the FCC NOI or
>> whatever it was.
>>
>> thanks,
>> marlon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jack Unger" <jun...@ask-wi.com>
>> To: "WISPA's FCC Committee" <fcccommit...@wispa.org>;
>> <legislat...@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:01 PM
>> Subject: [FCC Committee] FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski Announces
>> Senior Staff for Development of National Broadband Plan
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-292541A1.doc
>>>
>>>
>>>
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