I had a long day. This was intended to genuinely be off list. The truth is though that I do feel Rick owes this list an apology. I was hoping to not make the request for such public though. For that I am sorry to Rick and this list for making this a public issue for discussion. I still hope we see an apology from Rick.
Scriv

John Scrivner wrote:

Rick,
This comment from you causes nothing but ill will and is uncalled for. I want you to apologize on the list right now and mean it.
Scriv


Rick Smith wrote:

No offense, but wipe it off the face of the earth.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:54 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation

Nuke New Orleans? I dont get it.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation


How  bout nuking N.O. and starting somewhere else ?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:36 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation

Sascha,

Although I agree with you, Bell South's actions do not condone the action

of the city.
New Orleans could easilly instead announce a grant offer or loan program

for small business ISPs, to rebuild New Orlean's
communications systems.

They could understand the problem with having only a monopoly providing

most of the services. And they could fix that problem from
the start, empowering the vast amount of talent the industry has to offer,

to accellerate the launch of a network. Instead they get
their network designed by a Manufacturer. The mayor should be helping the

peiople rebuild their homes and neighborhoods, and let
the communication companies do their own thing.
How about giving the grant money to New Orlean local businesses? It may

add one or two more local jobs.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sascha Meinrath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation


Hi all,

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:33:00 -0600
From: "Joe Laura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>

And with bell having to rebuild their whole infrastructure here in New Orleans its a bigger slap in the face IMO. The hotel owners are pretty
upset
with this as well. Ya, the City has really ruffled some feathers over
this
move.

Regardless of whether or not the City of New Orleans government needs a
spanking ;) -- I have a fairly different take on this matter, one less
focused on the specifics of the New Orleans/BellSouth fiasco and more
oriented toward BellSouth's general business strategy.  BellSouth is
clearly attempting to leverage it's market dominance in one area

(wireline
communications) to prevent competition in a different realm (in this

case,
wireless networking).  This is exactly the type of dynamic that

anti-trust
laws were intended to keep in check.

BellSouth's actions in New Orleans are just the most recent

manifestation
of a strategy that _will_ be utilized against folks like us (e.g.,
independent ISPs). BellSouth has systematically attempted to prevent any
sort of competition within their service areas -- their New Orleans
tantrum is only the latest example. I wrote up a brief piece about some
of their most recent actions here:

http://www.saschameinrath.com/2005dec04bellsouths_shame

I'm sure there are numerous ways in which the City of New Orleans needs
reforming -- but BellSouth's actions are targeted against any and all
competitive entities -- they will certainly focus on WISPA members down
the road.  Instead of blaming New Orleans for what is obviously a
widespread business strategy, I'd recommend focusing on BellSouth, who
clearly isn't interested in "playing well with others" and has a
well-documented history of using its market power to bully others.

--Sascha

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