I agree w the Fiber Route. TEST... This is my first post.
On 5/7/11, wireless-requ...@wispa.org <wireless-requ...@wispa.org> wrote: > Send Wireless mailing list submissions to > wireless@wispa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wireless-requ...@wispa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wireless-ow...@wispa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wireless digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. looking for ideas... (Blair Davis) > 2. Re: looking for ideas... (Larry A Weidig) > 3. Re: looking for ideas... (Butch Evans) > 4. Re: looking for ideas... (Mark Nash) > 5. Re: looking for ideas... (Bryan Fields) > 6. Re: looking for ideas... (lakel...@gbcx.net) > 7. Re: looking for ideas... (Scott Reed) > 8. Re: looking for ideas... (Mike Hammett) > 9. Re: looking for ideas... (lakel...@gbcx.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:17:28 -0400 > From: Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> > Subject: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Message-ID: <4dc46568.7070...@wmwisp.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110506/3221e48a/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:23:27 -0500 > From: "Larry A Weidig" <lwei...@excel.net> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Message-ID: > <7e0ebc08c9e5074d9a406bf3b6ff2646027e3...@win-00.sh3.excel.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > My initial response is fiber, due to distances. However, you might be > able to get away with something less costly depending on requirements. > What speed? 10, 100, 1000, 10G... There are lots of Ethernet extenders > that can give you speeds to 100 Mbps over coax, copper,... just Google > it and you will find plenty. We have used these when fiber is not an > option. However, make sure you take grounding between buildings into > account as well with stuff like coax/copper. If you can afford it fiber > is your best option. > > > > * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net) > > * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ > > * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area > > * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free > > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Blair Davis > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:17 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > > > > I have a special job to do. > > I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet > connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. > > I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or > cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... > > Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to site > 4 is 2400 ft. > > Looking for options... > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110506/e637b4b2/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:24:44 -0500 > From: Butch Evans <but...@butchevans.com> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: wireless@wispa.org > Message-ID: <1304720684.8844.25.ca...@butchlaptop.butchevans.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:17 -0400, Blair Davis wrote: >> I have a special job to do. >> >> I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet >> connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. >> >> I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or >> cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... >> >> Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to >> site 4 is 2400 ft. > > I would HIGHLY recommend fiber for this. I am assuming these are > different buildings. If they are, and they are on their own electric > meters, then grounding alone would make me want use fiber instead of > copper. There are some solutions out there that will use the copper > lines, but I'd still go with fiber. Cost difference is likely to be > minimal and by the time you save $$ on the ethernet extenders (SDSL type > devices), you may come out at nearly the same cost with more bandwidth > to boot. > > -- > ******************************************************************** > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* > * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * > * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * > * NOTE MY NEW NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * > ******************************************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 15:25:56 -0700 > From: Mark Nash <markl...@uwol.net> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Message-ID: <4dc47574.3020...@uwol.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > For lower speeds, I have used pairs of SDSL modems before. They install > as bridges. > > On 5/6/2011 2:17 PM, Blair Davis wrote: >> I have a special job to do. >> >> I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet >> connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. >> >> I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or >> cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... >> >> Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to >> site 4 is 2400 ft. >> >> Looking for options... >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110506/8ac02824/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 18:30:16 -0400 > From: Bryan Fields <br...@apacimports.com> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Message-ID: <4dc47678.9070...@apacimports.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On 5/6/2011 17:17, Blair Davis wrote: >> I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet >> connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. >> >> I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or cat5, >> or >> even fiber if the price is right... >> >> Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to site 4 >> is 2400 ft. > Fiber is the only way to go. Copper will be nothing but headaches. > > You can get ADSS fiber and run it on poles, but you might be better off > having > some one do it for you, if you can't splice fiber in house. > > Switches and GigE SFP's are dirt cheap now, and for the distance, it's not > going to be cheaper, but the bandwidth is there when you need it. > > -- > *Bryan Fields* > *APAC Imports LLC* > 305-249-1100 > http://apacimports.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110506/705691fb/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:55:18 -0400 > From: lakel...@gbcx.net > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: wireless@wispa.org > Message-ID: <48fcb7bf-855f-4270-b40b-29fb9cf7f1ea@blur> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Agreed. Fiber is dirt cheap on Ebay. NOS. Media converters for less than > $100 each > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Butch Evans <but...@butchevans.com> > To: wireless@wispa.org > Sent: Fri, May 6, 2011 22:24:44 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:17 -0400, Blair Davis wrote: >> I have a special job to do. >> >> I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet >> connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. >> >> I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or >> cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... >> >> Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to >> site 4 is 2400 ft. > > I would HIGHLY recommend fiber for this. I am assuming these are > different buildings. If they are, and they are on their own electric > meters, then grounding alone would make me want use fiber instead of > copper. There are some solutions out there that will use the copper > lines, but I'd still go with fiber. Cost difference is likely to be > minimal and by the time you save $$ on the ethernet extenders (SDSL type > devices), you may come out at nearly the same cost with more bandwidth > to boot. > > -- > ******************************************************************** > * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* > * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * > * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * > * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * > * NOTE MY NEW NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * > ******************************************************************** > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110506/5ae867c5/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 07:49:23 -0400 > From: Scott Reed <sr...@nwwnet.net> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Message-ID: <4dc531c3.4080...@nwwnet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Depending on how it needs to be installed between buildings, there may > not be much cost difference between fiber and copper, especially if you > need multiple circuits. Fiber is not really expensive and you can get a > lot of strands in a small cable. Just be sure to run more strands than > you "need." > > On 5/6/2011 5:23 PM, Larry A Weidig wrote: >> >> My initial response is fiber, due to distances. However, you might be >> able to get away with something less costly depending on >> requirements. What speed? 10, 100, 1000, 10G... There are lots of >> Ethernet extenders that can give you speeds to 100 Mbps over coax, >> copper,... just Google it and you will find plenty. We have used >> these when fiber is not an option. However, make sure you take >> grounding between buildings into account as well with stuff like >> coax/copper. If you can afford it fiber is your best option. >> >> * Larry A. Weidig (lwei...@excel.net <mailto:lwei...@excel.net>) >> >> * Excel.Net,Inc. - http://www.excel.net/ >> >> * (920) 452-0455 - Sheboygan/Plymouth area >> >> * (888) 489-9995 - Other areas, toll-free >> >> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> *On Behalf Of *Blair Davis >> *Sent:* Friday, May 06, 2011 4:17 PM >> *To:* WISPA General List >> *Subject:* [WISPA] looking for ideas... >> >> I have a special job to do. >> >> I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet >> connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. >> >> I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or >> cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... >> >> Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to >> site 4 is 2400 ft. >> >> Looking for options... >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > -- > Scott Reed > Owner > NewWays Networking, LLC > Wireless Networking > Network Design, Installation and Administration > Mikrotik Advanced Certified > www.nwwnet.net > (765) 855-1060 > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110507/485bf3c0/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 07:39:28 -0500 > From: Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Message-ID: <4dc53d80.4020...@ics-il.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Fiber isn't that expensive compared to other wired technologies. > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > On 5/6/2011 4:17 PM, Blair Davis wrote: >> I have a special job to do. >> >> I need to connect 4 sites together in a line and provide Ethernet >> connectivity between them. I may NOT use wireless to do this. >> >> I can run overhead cable of most any type I need to. Coax, cat3 or >> cat5, or even fiber if the price is right... >> >> Site 1 to site 2 is 700 ft. Site 2 to site 3 is 900 ft. Site 3 to >> site 4 is 2400 ft. >> >> Looking for options... >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110507/5100064d/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 10:54:05 -0400 > From: lakel...@gbcx.net > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > To: wireless@wispa.org > Message-ID: <299aabb6-c06e-41a5-9e5c-c2fde5742f81@blur> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > With copper you need to consider the differences of ground potential between > > sites. Fiber eliminates that issue > > Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless > > -----Original message----- > From: Scott Reed <sr...@nwwnet.net> > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Sat, May 7, 2011 11:49:23 GMT+00:00 > Subject: Re: [WISPA] looking for ideas... > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/attachments/20110507/9cea89be/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wireless mailing list > Wireless@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > End of Wireless Digest, Vol 41, Issue 7 > *************************************** > -- Sent from my mobile device -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! 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