Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread lakeland
Message- From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:49:24 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables Elliptical waveguide will lose 3 dB in 250 feet. - Original Message - From: Mike Brownson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread lakeland
No not crazy and very educated on the matter. LMR over regular RG8 coax And LMR600 over 1/2 heliax. Use your words a little more careful Bob --Original Message-- From: Matt Jenkins To: Lakeland To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables Sent: Aug 19, 2008 11:45 PM

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
:18 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables I would never use coax for 5.8 period. Not unless you are only going a few feet. LMR900 can be used for up to 50 feet. It is better than 1/2 heliax. But really, you gotta use waveguide if you are going any distance at all

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread Blake Bowers
today. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables Eliptical waeguide is also $13 a foot, connectors are over $200 each, you need a bunch of special hardware to hang

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
: [WISPA] coax cables Eliptical waeguide is also $13 a foot, connectors are over $200 each, you need a bunch of special hardware to hang it and a dehydrator or nitrogen system to keep it dry. I just don't picture the WRAP board group buying waveguide Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables If you have any distance at all to go, and you want it to work, you have no choice. Transmission line loss adds DIRECTLY to receiver noise figure. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread John Valenti
Chuck, Vegetation might have a huge impact on the coverage area. I've seen pictures of your area, it looks like heaven to me. My experience is that the first two trees will eat up a 5.8 signal, so expanding the coverage area by 80% just adds another tree or two. It might be very sensible

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables 130 feet on 5.8 through LMR 900 = serving about 20% of the area you could serve if the coax was not in place. I guess it depends on what folks call working. - Original

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables If you have any distance at all to go, and you want it to work, you have no choice. Transmission line loss adds DIRECTLY to receiver noise figure. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-19 Thread Matt Jenkins
] Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:33:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] coax cables I'm running coax down my tower and came across and RG8/U. Can this be used on 5GHz? -RickG WISPA

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables LMR 400? Are you crazy? Heliax 1/2 is the only way to go! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It can but the loss is high and the braid is much less. Stick with LMRs 400 *,5

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-19 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Elliptical waveguide will lose 3 dB in 250 feet. - Original Message - From: Mike Brownson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables To give you the facts. You can use just about any coax you

Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-13 Thread RickG
, 2008 2:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U I have and still do, in some cases, long, (100ft+), cable runs. LMR-400 is the minimum cable size for that on 2.4GHz. You will need an amp. At 5GHz, I would expect LMR-600 or better. However, at 5GHz, I think I

[WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-12 Thread RickG
I'm running coax down my tower and came across and RG8/U. Can this be used on 5GHz? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-12 Thread lakeland
No Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:33:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] coax cables I'm running coax down my tower and came across and RG8/U. Can this be used on 5GHz? -RickG

[WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-12 Thread RickG
I hate radios at the top of the tower so I'd like to run coax cables to an enclosure at the bottom and add amps to make up for the loss. I'm looking for a 9 mile link. The drop is 150 feet. At any rate, I found an old RG8/U cable. Will that work on 5GHz? I also have LMR400? If not, what would you

Re: [WISPA] coax cables

2008-08-12 Thread lakeland
] coax cables I'm running coax down my tower and came across and RG8/U. Can this be used on 5GHz? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-12 Thread Blake Bowers
: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U I hate radios at the top of the tower so I'd like to run coax cables to an enclosure at the bottom and add amps to make up for the loss. I'm looking for a 9 mile link. The drop is 150 feet. At any rate, I found an old RG8/U cable. Will that work on 5GHz? I also have

Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-12 Thread RickG
Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:55 AM Subject: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U I hate radios at the top of the tower so I'd like to run coax cables to an enclosure at the bottom and add amps to make up

Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-12 Thread Blake Bowers
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U I thought so. Thats why I asked. So, LMR400 or 600? -RickG On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Blake Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RG8 is totally wrong. Don't

Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-12 Thread lakeland
Yes. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:06:08 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U I thought so. Thats why I asked. So, LMR400 or 600? -RickG On Tue, Aug 12

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2008-08-12 Thread lakeland
Use LDF4.5 Heliax for this run. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:55:16 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U I hate radios at the top of the tower so I'd like

Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-12 Thread Blair Davis
I have and still do, in some cases, long, (100ft+), cable runs. LMR-400 is the minimum cable size for that on 2.4GHz. You will need an amp. At 5GHz, I would expect LMR-600 or better. However, at 5GHz, I think I would go with tower top radios. I doubt that you will get good results at 5GHz

Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U

2008-08-12 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables - RG8/U I have and still do, in some cases, long, (100ft+), cable runs. LMR-400 is the minimum cable size for that on 2.4GHz. You