[WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time to tell Congress what you think...RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!! Instructions included in every detail

2005-10-13 Thread John Scrivner

This is a new request! This is not the same one as last time!
PLEASE READ THIS RIGHT NOW

**If you are on other lists regarding unlicensed broadband then please 
forward this message to every list you know of so we get 100% of this 
industry to do this PLEASE!**



I recently sent you an e-mail asking you to submit comments to the FCC 
on the 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. Over one 
hundred of you responded! That was step one. Now we NEED to tell 
CONGRESS that we need this spectrum so we can force the FCC to review 
your comments This will take about 10 minutes of your time and we 
can't drop the ball now -- this is a VERY RARE opportunity for our 
industry.


Here’s the problem. This proceeding, as you all can see, is a HUGE 
opportunity for our industry. BUT, the FCC Chairman may never complete 
the job unless he gets a push from Congress. Congress has a chance next 
week to do exactly that. We need to make sure they do.


We're working with Free Press, the New America Foundation, Consumers 
Union and other organizations who are lobbying the Congress to open this 
spectrum to unlicensed use. Below I've pasted some instructions. But if 
you need help with the call or more information about how to speak with 
your Senate staff, you can call Frannie Wellings at Free Press at 
202-265-1490 x 21. She is very nice and wants us to win this. Call her 
for any assistance you may need.


Here is what you can do to help:

1) Email Frannie with your name/company name, city and state served. Her 
email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Just do this right now. She will add 
your information to the letter located further down the email here. It 
will go to Congressional committee members who are working on what to do 
with the digital television transition. This letter should be signed by 
every WISP in the country. I MEAN EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU NO MATTER WHAT 
YOU THINK OR WHO YOU ARE AFFILIATED WITH! Once again, if you would like 
to add your name/company/city and state served to the letter, send an 
e-mail to Frannie Wellings at Free Press. Her address is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. If you want to 
get good spectrum you better just do it right now. DO NOT WAIT TILL 
TOMORROW. DO IT RIGHT NOW! You can read the contents of the letter 
inline below.



2) If you are in one of the following states, CALL YOUR SENATOR: This is 
very important. Your Senator listed below sits on the Committee that can 
make this all happen. This is not just a small thing guys. Senators 
really do listen to what their constituents say. If you tell them you 
need this spectrum this will impact their vote. We need you ALL to do this.


- Below, next to your state/senator, is the name of the staff member you 
need to speak with and their phone number.


- If you are not in one of the states below and you want to call your 
Senator anyway to express support for this, contact Frannie and she will 
give you the name and phone number of the person to call. YOU NEED TO 
CALL EVEN IF YOUR STATE IS NOT LISTED.


-Talking points you can use are included inline below. Tell them you are 
a WISP in their state and you need low-frequency unlicensed spectrum to 
provide Internet access to their constituents. Tell them why you need 
those TV channels for broadband, just as you did in your comments to the 
FCC. Give them good reasons and be kind and not argumentative. They 
might be trying to help you. Tell them why you need the channels. You 
all managed to produce so many great comments to the FCC, now it's time 
to tell Congress.



3) Let us know that you've called: When you're done, send a note to 
Frannie Wellings at Free Press at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us know here that you've called 
and what the staff member said in return. We need to figure out how they 
will vote. This is very important. Ask them for their vote supporting 
this effort and let us all know what they said.


---
*If Your State Is:* *Your Senator Is:* *You Should Call Staff Member:* 
*At #:*

Alaska Ted Stevens (R-AK) Harry Wingo, Christine kurth 202-224-3004
Arkansas Mark Pryor (D-AR) Terri Glaze 202-224-2353
Arizona John McCain (R-AZ) Lee Carosi 202-224-2235
California Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Alex Hoehn-Saric 202-224-3553
Florida Bill Nelson (D-FL) Mike Sozan 202-224-5274
Hawaii Daniel Inouye (D-HI) James Assey, Rachel Welch 202-224-3934
Louisiana David Vitter (R-LA) Evelyn Fortier 202-224-4623
Maine Olympia Snowe (R-ME) Kristin Smith 202-224-5344
Massachusetts John Kerry (D-MA) Barry LaSala 202-224-2742
Mississippi Trent Lott (R-MS) Beth Spivey 202-224-6253
Montana Conrad Burns (R-MT) Steve Miller 202-224-2644
Nebraska Ben Nelson (D-NE) Angela Stroschein 202-224-6551
New Jersey Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) Doug Mehan 202-224-3224
North Dakota Byron Dorgan (D-ND) Daphna Peled 202-224-2551
Oregon Gordon Smith (R-OR) Keith Murphy 202-224-3753
Nevada John Ensign (R-NV) Michael Sullivan 

Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...

2005-10-13 Thread Frank Muto
HOUSE DTV BILL FACES LIKELY DELAY
Action by the House Commerce Committee on terminating analog-TV service
within a few years will likely be postponed by at least one week. The Senate
Commerce Committee scheduled Oct. 19 to hold key votes on the same issue,
but budget politics in the House are complicating the Commerce Committee's
effort to complete work on digital-television issues at the same time. The
House panel is unlikely to vote next week because House Budget Committee
leaders are coming under pressure to cut spending or find new revenue to pay
for Hurricane Katrina cleanup. The House Commerce Committee was expected to
find about $15 billion in savings under the budget blueprint adopted before
Katrina. The panel might be expected to come up with billions of dollars
more.
[SOURCE: Multichannel News, AUTHOR: Ted Hearn]
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6271395.html?display=Breaking+News
(requires subscription)

See also:
* A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR UNLICENSED
Members of the Senate Commerce Committee are actively considering using the
digital television transition bill to open new spectrum to unlicensed
access. This could include opening current Channels 2-4 after the
broadcasters vacate it, or pushing the FCC to finish the white spaces
proceeding. It is supported by a number of tech companies, who want to see
broadband widely deployed so they can sell more stuff. It is also supported
by a number of public interest groups, community wireless networks, and
wireless ISPs, because this means cheap ubiquitous mobile broadband for all
Americans and all the social and economic benefits this brings. It is
opposed by the National Association of Broadcasters and cell phone
companies, who dislike the thought of wireless competitors and/or believe
that we haven't advanced much in radio technology to avoid interference
since God apparently made the TV allotment tables in the 1950s.
[SOURCE: Tales from the Sausage Factory, AUTHOR: Harold Feld]
http://www.wetmachine.com/totsf/item/361


Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us



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RE: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532

2005-10-13 Thread Paul Hendry
Just a little update. We thought we'd see what we could get through a couple
of these 2 port WAR boards in ideal conditions (rssi -25) with turbo
enabled. Testing was between 2 Mikrotik boxes with a StarVX link linking
them. Test was using built-in Mikrotik bandwidth-test in both directions
using random data and tcp. After running the test for 30 mins we have a tx
average of 27Mbps and rx average of 30.1Mbps. CPU's on both Mikrotik boxes
where running at 100% throughout the entire test so I really need to build
some P4's to test with to truly see what these can do.

Not sure how this compares with any testing others have done on other
systems but thought I should post the results.

Cheers,

P.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Hendry
Sent: 11 October 2005 16:09
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532

Indeed. And finding a clear 5 or 10Mhz is a lot easier than finding a clear
20Mhz.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of George
Sent: 11 October 2005 15:56
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Atheros speed WRAP vs RB532

Paul Hendry wrote:
  as we have no intention
 of using them at 20 or 40Mhz.

This to me is the beauty of the WAR StarVX platform.

The links I have up now are 10MHz.

With limited spectrum available to us, it's the frugal thing to do.

George
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[WISPA] Some Senator contact help from Frannie at Free Press

2005-10-13 Thread John Scrivner
If any of you still do not know who to call for supporting the effort 
then this may help some of you...


---From Frannie
Is everyone okay with this?  Those government pages might be a bit 
confusing for people.   I'd suggest this one:


http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt?command=congdir

Or there's also a box on the Free Press site where people can find their 
officials using their zip code:


http://freepress.net/congress/

They'll find the phone number for the Washington, DC Office (must call 
the DC one). They can just ask the receptionist for the name of the 
Telecomm staff member and then ask to speak to them.  Or I can get the 
info for them if they want.

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Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time to tellCongresswhat you think...RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!! Instructions included in everydetail

2005-10-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
What about the other states not listed, Maryland and Virginia? I guess I got 
to go look that up myself :-)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time to 
tellCongresswhat you think...RIGHT NOW  Instructions included in 
everydetail




I'm a little confused John.

We are supposed to email Frannie our name business location and she's 
gonna send the letter?

Or we're supposed to print the letter and sign it and send it ourselves?

And we should call our reps and tell their staff member who takes calls 
for them why we should have unlicensed tv channels for broadband use.
Last time I called one of those congressmen, it was one of their staff 
that talked to me about the issue.



Exactly what channels are we talking here?

George

John Scrivner wrote:

This is a new request! This is not the same one as last time!
PLEASE READ THIS RIGHT NOW

**If you are on other lists regarding unlicensed broadband then please 
forward this message to every list you know of so we get 100% of this 
industry to do this PLEASE!**



I recently sent you an e-mail asking you to submit comments to the FCC on 
the 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. Over one 
hundred of you responded! That was step one. Now we NEED to tell CONGRESS 
that we need this spectrum so we can force the FCC to review your 
comments This will take about 10 minutes of your time and we can't 
drop the ball now -- this is a VERY RARE opportunity for our industry.


Here’s the problem. This proceeding, as you all can see, is a HUGE 
opportunity for our industry. BUT, the FCC Chairman may never complete 
the job unless he gets a push from Congress. Congress has a chance next 
week to do exactly that. We need to make sure they do.


We're working with Free Press, the New America Foundation, Consumers 
Union and other organizations who are lobbying the Congress to open this 
spectrum to unlicensed use. Below I've pasted some instructions. But if 
you need help with the call or more information about how to speak with 
your Senate staff, you can call Frannie Wellings at Free Press at 
202-265-1490 x 21. She is very nice and wants us to win this. Call her 
for any assistance you may need.


Here is what you can do to help:

1) Email Frannie with your name/company name, city and state served. Her 
email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Just do this right now. She will add 
your information to the letter located further down the email here. It 
will go to Congressional committee members who are working on what to do 
with the digital television transition. This letter should be signed by 
every WISP in the country. I MEAN EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU NO MATTER WHAT 
YOU THINK OR WHO YOU ARE AFFILIATED WITH! Once again, if you would like 
to add your name/company/city and state served to the letter, send an 
e-mail to Frannie Wellings at Free Press. Her address is 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. If you want to 
get good spectrum you better just do it right now. DO NOT WAIT TILL 
TOMORROW. DO IT RIGHT NOW! You can read the contents of the letter inline 
below.



2) If you are in one of the following states, CALL YOUR SENATOR: This is 
very important. Your Senator listed below sits on the Committee that can 
make this all happen. This is not just a small thing guys. Senators 
really do listen to what their constituents say. If you tell them you 
need this spectrum this will impact their vote. We need you ALL to do 
this.


- Below, next to your state/senator, is the name of the staff member you 
need to speak with and their phone number.


- If you are not in one of the states below and you want to call your 
Senator anyway to express support for this, contact Frannie and she will 
give you the name and phone number of the person to call. YOU NEED TO 
CALL EVEN IF YOUR STATE IS NOT LISTED.


-Talking points you can use are included inline below. Tell them you are 
a WISP in their state and you need low-frequency unlicensed spectrum to 
provide Internet access to their constituents. Tell them why you need 
those TV channels for broadband, just as you did in your comments to the 
FCC. Give them good reasons and be kind and not argumentative. They might 
be trying to help you. Tell them why you need the channels. You all 
managed to produce so many great comments to the FCC, now it's time to 
tell Congress.



3) Let us know that you've called: When you're done, send a note to 
Frannie Wellings at Free Press at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us know here that you've called 
and what the staff member said in return. We need to figure out how they 
will vote. This is very important. Ask them for their vote supporting 
this effort and let us all know 

Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time to tellCongress what you think...RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!! Instructions includedin every detail

2005-10-13 Thread Tom DeReggi

Great point, agreed.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time to 
tellCongress what you think...RIGHT NOW  Instructions includedin 
every detail




John Scrivner wrote:



We are asking for use of any unused channels now. That is what 04-186 is 
all about. In my local area this accounts for about 300 Mhz of available 
spectrum!  We are also asking for a block of channels (some are saying 
channels 2 through 4) which will become broadband unlicensed channels for 
good after the digital television  transition is complete in 2008. This 
will essentially become a WISP band.

I hope that helps,
Scriv



Just my 2 cents

Channels 2 thru 4 IMHO will be a nightmare.  We have public safety 
agencies fighting skip (the ability of low band signals to travel 
hundreds of miles using low power) just below Channel 2 during the summer 
months.  If we wind up with these we will surely have interference issues 
with each other as well as other lower frequency issues that are present 
with this band.


I really think we need something in the 175-600 Mhz. range.  Something 
that will keep most signals in the same area and not bounce them to the 
next state certain times of the year.


-B-

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Lakeland Communications, Inc.
Broadband Deployment Group
1350 Lincoln Avenue
Holbrook, New York 11741 USA
800-479-9195 Toll Free US  Canada
631-585-5558 Fax
516-551-1131 Cell

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Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time to tellCongresswhat you think...RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!! Instructions included in everydetail

2005-10-13 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Thanks for providing the resources to find the numbers.  But I still 
think if someone has time to create a complete list there will be more 
calls made.  There are a lot of people out there who will do it 
tomorrow if they have to go look up the numbers.  On the other hand if 
the numbers are included in this post they will pick up the phone and 
call after all, you just got them all fired up about a great 
opportunity.  The more brainless the process is made, the more people 
get involved.


John Scrivner wrote:


From the original message:

- If you are not in one of the states below and you want to call your 
Senator anyway to express support for this, contact Frannie and she 
will give you the name and phone number of the person to call. YOU 
NEED TO CALL EVEN IF YOUR STATE IS NOT LISTED.


Then there is this from Rick Harnish regarding contacting Senators:

Go to the WISPA homepage and select your state from the State Government
Webpages dropdown menu.  From your state webpage, you should be able 
to find
your Senator and Congressman contact information.  We have tried to 
make it

convient to get to from the WISPA homepage.


Then most recently I sent this to you from Frannie:

If any of you still do not know who to call for supporting the effort 
then this may help some of you...


---From Frannie

Is everyone okay with this?  Those government pages might be a bit 
confusing for people.   I'd suggest this one:


http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt?command=congdir

Or there's also a box on the Free Press site where people can find 
their officials using their zip code:


http://freepress.net/congress/

They'll find the phone number for the Washington, DC Office (must call 
the DC one). They can just ask the receptionist for the name of the 
Telecomm staff member and then ask to speak to them.  Or I can get the 
info for them if they want.


Frannie's email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If you need other assistance beyond this then just let me know.
Thanks,
Scriv



Tom DeReggi wrote:

What about the other states not listed, Maryland and Virginia? I 
guess I got to go look that up myself :-)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time to 
tellCongresswhat you think...RIGHT NOW  Instructions included 
in everydetail




I'm a little confused John.

We are supposed to email Frannie our name business location and 
she's gonna send the letter?
Or we're supposed to print the letter and sign it and send it 
ourselves?


And we should call our reps and tell their staff member who takes 
calls for them why we should have unlicensed tv channels for 
broadband use.
Last time I called one of those congressmen, it was one of their 
staff that talked to me about the issue.



Exactly what channels are we talking here?

George

John Scrivner wrote:


This is a new request! This is not the same one as last time!
PLEASE READ THIS RIGHT NOW

**If you are on other lists regarding unlicensed broadband then 
please forward this message to every list you know of so we get 
100% of this industry to do this PLEASE!**



I recently sent you an e-mail asking you to submit comments to the 
FCC on the 04-186 - Unlicensed Operation in the TV Broadcast Bands. 
Over one hundred of you responded! That was step one. Now we NEED 
to tell CONGRESS that we need this spectrum so we can force the FCC 
to review your comments This will take about 10 minutes of your 
time and we can't drop the ball now -- this is a VERY RARE 
opportunity for our industry.


Here’s the problem. This proceeding, as you all can see, is a HUGE 
opportunity for our industry. BUT, the FCC Chairman may never 
complete the job unless he gets a push from Congress. Congress has 
a chance next week to do exactly that. We need to make sure they do.


We're working with Free Press, the New America Foundation, 
Consumers Union and other organizations who are lobbying the 
Congress to open this spectrum to unlicensed use. Below I've pasted 
some instructions. But if you need help with the call or more 
information about how to speak with your Senate staff, you can call 
Frannie Wellings at Free Press at 202-265-1490 x 21. She is very 
nice and wants us to win this. Call her for any assistance you may 
need.


Here is what you can do to help:

1) Email Frannie with your name/company name, city and state 
served. Her email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Just do this right now. She will 
add your information to the letter located further down the email 
here. It will go to Congressional committee members who are working 
on what to do with the digital television transition. This letter 
should be signed by every WISP in the country. I 

Re: [WISPA] We got the FCC's attention...Now it is time

2005-10-13 Thread Frank Muto
Oh, come on now, the work has already been done. It takes all of maybe two
minutes to use the information already in place and certainly [no] excuse to
not make a call and send an email. If you don't know your zip code or the
state you live in, you certainly need more help. ;-)

I would highly suggest making an appointment at the local field office the
next time your representative is in town. This past August [was] a perfect
time to do so, while Congress was on summer recess. They are not in D.C. all
the time.



Frank Muto
Co-founder -  Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA
Telecom Summit Ad Hoc Committee
http://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us












- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Thanks for providing the resources to find the numbers.  But I still
 think if someone has time to create a complete list there will be more
 calls made.  There are a lot of people out there who will do it
 tomorrow if they have to go look up the numbers.  On the other hand if
 the numbers are included in this post they will pick up the phone and
 call after all, you just got them all fired up about a great
 opportunity.  The more brainless the process is made, the more people
 get involved.

 John Scrivner wrote:

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