[WISPA] Board Applications Due Tomorrow!
The deadline for applying for the WISPA Board Elections in Saturday, Dec. 31st. Please go to http://election.wispa.org/ and fill out this online application. You must be an active and current (dues paid) member of WISPA to apply. This is an excellent opportunity to build leadership qualities, help guide and manage WISPA, make good friends and to get involved in your industry. The applications will be posted to the website in the next week and we have online elections scheduled for Feb. 1, 2006. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play
Commpartners is one of the popular ones, with lots to offer, but they are getting a little big for their britches charging $5000 setup fee. Nuvio, has a lot of programs that help you cover end user equipment. Primus, is happy wholesaling you a raw business line without PBX replacement/managed service. The list goes on. They all have positives and negatives, mostly related to billing methods. I'm not aware of any of them that embrase the residential phone service business wholesale. I want VOIP strictly for residential, and although they'll do it, they constantly are pushing you to promote/sell the managed business VOIP PBX services, to consider you a valuable partner, which isn't our focus for VOIP. Early on, there are less choices for Wholesale VOIP providers. However, I think VOIP providers will become a commodity sooner than later, with everyone on a broadcom platform offering the same plans and options. Right now, the wholesale VOIP providers still control the terms. I think Wireless providers on the other hand are the ones that should be able to control the shots eventually. We own the client and our local underserved markets. We get the VOIP providers into needy markets (rural/underserved/mobile) they will never have from DSL and Cable companies. Its my opinion as owners of the conduit to the subscriber we should be charging $5000 grand to accept the partnership not pay it. So we have been holding out for the right wholesale partner that sees our value and embrases the residential MTU and underserved VOIP markets. The clock is clicking though, so if they don't come soon, we will build ourselves. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play Is there a company that you can buy VoIP service from and then resell it to your customers? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play Anyone got a way to offer triple play via wireless yet? I heard of someone working on a product but no idea if anything has been released yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: 28 December 2005 14:38 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play If you are going to be Resi, then get a DISH or DTV distributorship and sell them Your VoIP and your Internet and the DBS service. Won't be one bill, but it can be one call. Tom DeReggi wrote: Verizon has been advertising FIOS hard in our markets to, but its been over 6 month for some, since advertsied and no FIOS. FIOS is expensive to buildout, and they need a certain number of pre-signed up subscribers to do it. Its hard to convince people to get rif of their satelite and cabled TV. There is security in not being locked down to a signle provider for ALL services. I can see it now, someone gets behind on their phone bill, and all a sudden the TV gets turned off, the broadband gets turned off, and the PHONE. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 27/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 27/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - VOIP / CommPartners
We deal with a couple of VOIP Providers that know Wireless is the way to go. The ILEC needs to be cut out of ever newly development network for sustainability. On a separate note, I rep CommPartners (CP), Primus and many others. I even have a CP Reseller WISPs can work with. CP's new plan is pricey, mainly because they are learning (like Broadview and others) that most of the VOIP Provider clients sell very few lines. The upfront costs is a barrier to entry. If you spend $5k for set-up and have a commitment to meet, you will be serious about selling VOIP. I'm sure you guys have resellers who sell one circuit a quarter. Happy New Year! News-letter http://www.rad-info.net/newsletters/00n123105.html Thank you. Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 or 985.240.4156 fax 305.675.6494 http://4isps.com Tom DeReggi wrote: Commpartners is one of the popular ones, with lots to offer, but they are getting a little big for their britches charging $5000 setup fee. Nuvio, has a lot of programs that help you cover end user equipment. Primus, is happy wholesaling you a raw business line without PBX replacement/managed service. The list goes on. They all have positives and negatives, mostly related to billing methods. I'm not aware of any of them that embrase the residential phone service business wholesale. I want VOIP strictly for residential, and although they'll do it, they constantly are pushing you to promote/sell the managed business VOIP PBX services, to consider you a valuable partner, which isn't our focus for VOIP. Early on, there are less choices for Wholesale VOIP providers. However, I think VOIP providers will become a commodity sooner than later, with everyone on a broadcom platform offering the same plans and options. Right now, the wholesale VOIP providers still control the terms. I think Wireless providers on the other hand are the ones that should be able to control the shots eventually. We own the client and our local underserved markets. We get the VOIP providers into needy markets (rural/underserved/mobile) they will never have from DSL and Cable companies. Its my opinion as owners of the conduit to the subscriber we should be charging $5000 grand to accept the partnership not pay it. So we have been holding out for the right wholesale partner that sees our value and embrases the residential MTU and underserved VOIP markets. The clock is clicking though, so if they don't come soon, we will build ourselves. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Re: verizon fios - Advertising Battle
snip You guys haven't been going to enough conferences and listening to very bright people like Kris Twomey try and explain such things to the (W)ISP industry. Shame on that Michael Anderson for putting Kris up in front of an audience to try to keep the WISP industry informed. /snip Thought I'd chime in and add my 2 cents One thing that this WISP / ISP / Operator community lacks is a cohesive and constant voice for wireless in DC (WISPA has done a great job, but guys like Marlon, Rich, Jon and co still have day jobs and families to feed, and we can't rely solely on their volunteer efforts) I would like to take this opportunity to intrtoduce everyone to Michael Hazzard, of Womble, Carlyle, Sandridge Rice (WCSR). WCSR has been quite active in the CLEC / UNE-P / Forebearance battles, and although the outcome of those battles may be a foregone conclusion by now, they are interested in helping on the final front for independents (e.g., broadband wireless). That said, we plan on collaborating together the next several months amongst all affected communities (in this case, WISPs/ISPs are one organization we are interested in working with, but we also plan on working with other types of network operators, including CLECs, Rural Independents, Electrical Coops, Munis, etc) to put together a unified cohesive position on wireless broadband We are currently working on some survey questions, and will probably be contacting everyone shortly to ask some of these questions (so please don't blacklist me =) -Charles --- CWLab Technology Architects http://www.cwlab.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
VoIP (was Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play)
We looked at various VoIP wholesalers and weren't really happy with any of them. Currently, we have a variety of telco circuits including DS3s, PRIs, and dedicated LD DS1s to solve our voice origination and termination needs. It took some time to pull it all together and get right (fax for example), but now we are in a stable situation that is much superior to what folks like Commpartners offers. We are still learning how to play in the rural markets where voice and 911 are still pretty locked up, but at least when it comes to the NFL cities we are all set. Any WISP in such a market is welcome to use us on a wholesale basis with no setup charge and no monthly commits in terms of minute usage. -Matt Tom DeReggi wrote: Commpartners is one of the popular ones, with lots to offer, but they are getting a little big for their britches charging $5000 setup fee. Nuvio, has a lot of programs that help you cover end user equipment. Primus, is happy wholesaling you a raw business line without PBX replacement/managed service. The list goes on. They all have positives and negatives, mostly related to billing methods. I'm not aware of any of them that embrase the residential phone service business wholesale. I want VOIP strictly for residential, and although they'll do it, they constantly are pushing you to promote/sell the managed business VOIP PBX services, to consider you a valuable partner, which isn't our focus for VOIP. Early on, there are less choices for Wholesale VOIP providers. However, I think VOIP providers will become a commodity sooner than later, with everyone on a broadcom platform offering the same plans and options. Right now, the wholesale VOIP providers still control the terms. I think Wireless providers on the other hand are the ones that should be able to control the shots eventually. We own the client and our local underserved markets. We get the VOIP providers into needy markets (rural/underserved/mobile) they will never have from DSL and Cable companies. Its my opinion as owners of the conduit to the subscriber we should be charging $5000 grand to accept the partnership not pay it. So we have been holding out for the right wholesale partner that sees our value and embrases the residential MTU and underserved VOIP markets. The clock is clicking though, so if they don't come soon, we will build ourselves. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 2:38 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play Is there a company that you can buy VoIP service from and then resell it to your customers? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:12 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play Anyone got a way to offer triple play via wireless yet? I heard of someone working on a product but no idea if anything has been released yet. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: 28 December 2005 14:38 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] verizon fios pricing - Triple Play If you are going to be Resi, then get a DISH or DTV distributorship and sell them Your VoIP and your Internet and the DBS service. Won't be one bill, but it can be one call. Tom DeReggi wrote: Verizon has been advertising FIOS hard in our markets to, but its been over 6 month for some, since advertsied and no FIOS. FIOS is expensive to buildout, and they need a certain number of pre-signed up subscribers to do it. Its hard to convince people to get rif of their satelite and cabled TV. There is security in not being locked down to a signle provider for ALL services. I can see it now, someone gets behind on their phone bill, and all a sudden the TV gets turned off, the broadband gets turned off, and the PHONE. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 27/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.8/215 - Release Date: 27/12/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.5/212 - Release Date: 12/23/2005 -- WISPA
[WISPA] Pathloss users.....
If anyone out there is using Pathloss, do you have the .raf, .mas, .mrs or .dat files for Canopy radios (or any other wisp type radios)? If anyone has them, I'd sure appreciate it if you could send them my way. Coding them by hand is a huge P.I.T.A. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
