Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!!

2006-01-23 Thread Tom DeReggi

Everyone might be at the WCA show, that was the 17-20th?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Not sure how well Trango has thought out the direct sales model though. 
Three
calls and an email to them has yeilded nothing but dead air.  At least I 
could

call a VAR and speak to someone.

just my $.02

chris
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Re: [WISPA] TRANGO!!

2006-01-23 Thread Matt Liotta

More to his point if everyone is at a trade show.

-Matt

Tom DeReggi wrote:


Everyone might be at the WCA show, that was the 17-20th?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Not sure how well Trango has thought out the direct sales model 
though. Three
calls and an email to them has yeilded nothing but dead air.  At 
least I could

call a VAR and speak to someone.

just my $.02

chris
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[WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Mark Nash
Anyone have recommendations on products you use for outdoor, weatherproof
ethernet splices?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Scott Reed




Would this work?
http://www.wisp-router.com/product_info.php?cPath=38products_id=389

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


www.nwwnet.net 




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 Anyone have recommendations on products you use for outdoor, 
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[WISPA] MT W/ OSPF Problem

2006-01-23 Thread Bo Hamilton
Hello everyone! Im using MT W/ OSPF and Im unable to hitcertain backhaul radios or computers on my backhaul sub.

Example:

On a switch (Radio, Ftp Server Web server, MT Router)---(Backhaul10.10.1.x/24)---Radio-MT router ether1

(Same Board)MT Ether2RadioAP--(wireless sub 10.155.2.x/24)Client

If im on the client end I cannot reach my internal ftp server or my web server, but I can hit my core router(10.10.1.x) or my Mt router ether1(same sub)at the tower. So in short, anything plugged into my switch atthe NOC besides my core routerI canaccess. Weird!

Anyone got an idea

Thanks

Bo


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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Mac Dearman
To tell you the truth I have been looking at those for months now and 
couldnt decide if it was an actual  splicer (which I could use a few 
of) or something you add to an outdoor enclosure for a pass-thru. (of 
which I could use a few)


 If someone figures it out - - please post :-)

Thanks
Mac

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Richard Munoz wrote:


This looks intresting.  Anyone use these first hand?
 
-Richard M.


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Would this work?
http://www.wisp-router.com/product_info.php?cPath=38products_id=389
http://www.wisp-router.com/product_info.php?cPath=38products_id=389


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Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

 Anyone have recommendations on products you use for outdoor,
weatherproof
 ethernet splices?

 Mark Nash
 Network Engineer
 UnwiredOnline.Net
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net http://www.uwol.net/
 541-998-
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[WISPA] M5580 feedback and Dish mounting help

2006-01-23 Thread Tom DeReggi


The Trango M5580 is a great product and been working well from a stability 
perspective and price point, and glqd to have it as an option. However, 
there are several challenges to deal with.


There are two negatives that creates a third.

1) 8 db int antenna, so 7 db less than Fox5800.
2) No longer supports RF Threshhold command.

The range drops down to two miles, giving you a -74 signal, more easilly 
able to survive the noise using DSSS.
However when upgraded to OFDM, I'm concerned about the low gain of the radio 
being able to survive the noise with adequate singal to noise threshold. 
I'm guessing the range will be more like 1 mile to have high enough signal 
to support the high modulations. Unless of course the dish install is used. 
This is where we make a savings. Using a inexpensive M5580 w/ dish apposed 
to Fox-D.


The foxes without the dish was convenient because we could mount lower, on 
the side of the wall or under eves. Now we are in most cases goingto be 
required to mount on the roof or on the side of the house at the peak.  I 
hate drilling down into the roof, for water proof liability reasons, but its 
likely that may have to start happening.


What we are finding is that most of the houses we are targeting, we are 
finding that the peaks are taller than our 30 ft ladders can reach, and 
often taller than our 40 foot ladders can reach.  We are also finding our 
underserved area, are larger homes with very steep peaked roofs, causing 
safety issues.  We often will carry a 20 ft section of ladder with hooks, 
and lift it onto the peak as our method to climb. But when the edge of the 
roof is up 30 feeet, its scary pulling the ladder up, to lift onto the roof. 
Clearly a two man job, that takes care.  What we are finding that we are 
doing instead, is we are finding a way up to the peak of the roof, and then 
we straddle the peak so we can safely manuver to the  side edge where we 
mount a Pole (with M-mount and contilever mount), and have DSS dish extend 
over the roof line.  Its can be difficult hangling down over the edge to 
mount the bottom cross bar to stablize the pole.


So my question is, how are people optimizing this process? I know some one 
makes a pre-made kit in steel, for this type of mount, without needing to 
cut 2x4s.  Whats the best place to find these mounts, and what thickness do 
they need to be to adequately support the Fox Dishes?


I need to make the determination if we can cost effectively still mount to 
the side of the house easilly for these installations, or if we have to 
lower ourselves to Cable TV standard, and screw through the roof :-(   And 
at what point we are better off staying with Fox5800 SUs, apposed to the 
timely and more costly install requirements.


Any suggestions to speed this mounting process is helpful. ( at heights 
higher than 40 feet, for DISH mounting )


One of the guys at The Trango show had some suggestions on this, but I 
misplaced the info I got from him on part numbers.


I was consodering upgrading to a bucket truck, but most cost effective 
bucket trucks wont get us up to the 45 feet peak height requirement in most 
cases.  (walk out basements, with Step peaked roof, and multiple stories are 
common here and killers of the quick install)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Tom DeReggi



Yes they work well.

ONly one thing... The Bulkhead Nut looks identicle 
to the Nut for the other type of Ethernet connectors that are standard for 
Rootennas. (The ones the cable just goes through and rubbers around it.). They 
are NOT the same NUT! IF you get the NUTs confused, it strips, and when you go 
to turn tighted the Bulk head nut, it slips and rotates. When you use the 
correct NUT, it workds well and is snug.

Tom DeReggiRapidDSL  Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless 
Broadband



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  Richard Munoz 
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  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet 
  Splice
  
  This looks intresting. Anyone use these 
  first hand?
  
  -Richard M.
  
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:32 
PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet 
Splice
Would this work? http://www.wisp-router.com/product_info.php?cPath=38products_id=389 
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Ethernet Splice  Anyone have recommendations on products you use 
for outdoor, weatherproof  ethernet splices?   Mark 
Nash  Network Engineer  UnwiredOnline.Net  350 Holly 
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[WISPA] Anyone know Verilan?

2006-01-23 Thread Mark Koskenmaki




http://www.verilan.com/

I was hoping to have a closer additional source for 
things (I always try to have more than one) and these people have 
somestuff I use listed for sale at decent prices.

But, over the course of about 3 days, and 
approximately 30 phone calls to thier number, I never managed to reach a live 
person. I tried accounting, tech support, sales, 
etc.I lost track of the number of times I called, but I called 
everywhere between morning, after 5, mid-day, 
etc.

I realize this isn't saying much positive about 
them, I was just wondering if anyone else had heard of them or done business 
with them.

Thanks

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to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at 
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RE: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Todd Barber
Mark,

http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=565-0107SEARCH=b
ulginID=DESC=PX0777%2FUTP

These work well and come with different sized grommets for use with
different diameter cable.  They are about 1/3 more cost than the ones on
wisp-router.  

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
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Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

Anyone have recommendations on products you use for outdoor,
weatherproof
ethernet splices?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Tom DeReggi



I don't think I'd use it for an inline splice 
personally.
A Short Cat5 cable is fixed to one side of the 
device.

Tom DeReggiRapidDSL  Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless 
Broadband



  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 2:22 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet 
  Splice
  
  Tom, would you please confirm...can these be used 
  for both bulkhead connections on a pass-through into and enclosure AND an 
  inline splice without an enclosure?
  
  Thanks!
  Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly 
  StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
  fax
  
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Tom DeReggi 
To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:18 
AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet 
Splice

Yes they work well.

ONly one thing... The Bulkhead Nut looks 
identicle to the Nut for the other type of Ethernet connectors that are 
standard for Rootennas. (The ones the cable just goes through and rubbers 
around it.). They are NOT the same NUT! IF you get the NUTs confused, it 
strips, and when you go to turn tighted the Bulk head nut, it slips and 
rotates. When you use the correct NUT, it workds well and is 
snug.

Tom DeReggiRapidDSL  Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed 
Wireless Broadband



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard Munoz 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 1:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet 
  Splice
  
  This looks intresting. Anyone use these 
  first hand?
  
  -Richard M.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Scott Reed 

To: WISPA General List 
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 
12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor 
Ethernet Splice
Would this work? http://www.wisp-router.com/product_info.php?cPath=38products_id=389 
Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking 
Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net 
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Splice  Anyone have recommendations on products you use for 
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[WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser








Anyone here have experience soldering connectors on to Motorola
Canopy radios? Id like to start doing my
own soldering and cant figure out where to solder the center conductor
and grounds for these. There are 3 points where the integrated antenna attaches
to the PCB and Im pretty sure that the top solder point is the center
conductor but I dont know if the other two are for the ground or what.



Kurt Fankhauser

WAVELINC

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Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

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Re: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181



Making that modification would likely take the 
radios out of certification.

Marlon(509) 
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  Fankhauser 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:05 
  PM
  Subject: [WISPA] soldering radio's
  
  
  Anyone here have experience 
  soldering connectors on to Motorola Canopy radio’s? 
  I’d like to start doing my own soldering and can’t figure out where to solder 
  the center conductor and grounds for these. There are 3 points where the 
  integrated antenna attaches to the PCB and I’m pretty sure that the top solder 
  point is the center conductor but I don’t know if the other two are for the 
  ground or what.
  
  Kurt 
  Fankhauser
  WAVELINC
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  St.
  Bucyrus, 
  OH 
  44820
  419-562-6405
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Re: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Dan Petermann
Not to mention the warranty... :-)On Jan 23, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Making that modification would likely take the radios out of certification.   Marlon(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)    Consulting services42846865 (icq)    And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam       - Original Message -   From:   Kurt   Fankhauser   To: wireless@wispa.org   Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:05   PM  Subject: [WISPA] soldering radio'sAnyone here have experience   soldering connectors on to Motorola Canopy radio’s?   I’d like to start doing my own soldering and can’t figure out where to solder   the center conductor and grounds for these. There are 3 points where the   integrated antenna attaches to the PCB and I’m pretty sure that the top solder   point is the center conductor but I don’t know if the other two are for the   ground or what. Kurt   FankhauserWAVELINC114 S. Walnut   St.Bucyrus,   OH   44820419-562-6405www.wavelinc.com   -- WISPA Wireless List:   wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives:   http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- 
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RE: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser









There are 380mw radios, Id
like to stick a 15db omni on one and see what it does.





Kurt Fankhauser

WAVELINC

114 S. Walnut St.

Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

www.wavelinc.com





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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 3:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] soldering
radio's





Making that modification would
likely take the radios out of certification.











Marlon
(509)
982-2181
Equipment sales
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(Vonage)
Consulting services
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And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam




















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From: Kurt
Fankhauser 





To: wireless@wispa.org






Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:05 PM





Subject: [WISPA]
soldering radio's









Anyone here have experience
soldering connectors on to Motorola Canopy radios? Id like to start
doing my own soldering and cant figure out where to solder the center
conductor and grounds for these. There are 3 points where the integrated
antenna attaches to the PCB and Im pretty sure that the top solder point
is the center conductor but I dont know if the other two are for the
ground or what.



Kurt Fankhauser

WAVELINC

114 S. Walnut St.

Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

www.wavelinc.com









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Re: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Maybe I am getting this wrong, but isn't Kurt just trying to do this  
https://www.lastmilegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=44products_id=366

Basically modify Canopy?  What is so wrong with that?

Dawn wrote:


Kurt,

Asking this question is like asking Where do I buy a 4 watt amp?
If you are planning to do this then you should not be in this business
ALSO WISPA is not here to answer these kinds of questions. It gives all
Wireless Internet Providers a bad name.

Thanks,
Dawn


Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

Anyone here have experience soldering connectors on to Motorola 
Canopy radio’s? I’d like to start doing my own soldering and can’t 
figure out where to solder the center conductor and grounds for 
these. There are 3 points where the integrated antenna attaches to 
the PCB and I’m pretty sure that the top solder point is the center 
conductor but I don’t know if the other two are for the ground or what.


Kurt Fankhauser

WAVELINC

114 S. Walnut St.

Bucyrus, OH 44820

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Re: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Hey Kurt.  I am curious.  What are you soldering and why/purpose?  Can't 
you get connectorized and attach an omni?  Why solder?


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Maybe I am getting this wrong, but isn't Kurt just trying to do this  
https://www.lastmilegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=44products_id=366 


Basically modify Canopy?  What is so wrong with that?

Dawn wrote:


Kurt,

Asking this question is like asking Where do I buy a 4 watt amp?
If you are planning to do this then you should not be in this business
ALSO WISPA is not here to answer these kinds of questions. It gives all
Wireless Internet Providers a bad name.

Thanks,
Dawn


Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

Anyone here have experience soldering connectors on to Motorola 
Canopy radio’s? I’d like to start doing my own soldering and can’t 
figure out where to solder the center conductor and grounds for 
these. There are 3 points where the integrated antenna attaches to 
the PCB and I’m pretty sure that the top solder point is the center 
conductor but I don’t know if the other two are for the ground or what.


Kurt Fankhauser

WAVELINC

114 S. Walnut St.

Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

www.wavelinc.com

 



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Re: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Dawn

Steve,

I could not have said it better myself.

Thank you,
Dawn


Steve Stroh wrote:



The big difference is that Last Mile Gear is MOTOROLA authorized to 
do  such modifications, and THEY have had THEIR modifications FCC  
certified.


Stating this question in public is a gigantic invitation for  
competitors to invite the FCC in for a chat and a looksee given the  
now-documented (here on the list) possibility that there are 
illegally  modified Part-15 gear radios in use.



Thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Brian Rohrbacher




Even so, it has to be built before it can be certified. 
We'll just have to assume that this is for testing and he'll have
Moto's and the FCC's approval before he uses it. 
Because like you said, this is not a place where we talk about breaking
the FCC rules. 
I know I wouldn't want the FCC enforcement team tracking me down.


Steve Stroh wrote:

The big difference is that Last Mile Gear is MOTOROLA authorized to do
such modifications, and THEY have had THEIR modifications FCC
certified.
  
  
Stating this question in public is a gigantic invitation for
competitors to invite the FCC in for a chat and a looksee given the
now-documented (here on the list) possibility that there are illegally
modified Part-15 gear radios in use.
  
  
  
Thanks,
  
  
Steve
  
  
  
On Jan 23, 2006, at 17:33, Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
  
  
  Maybe I am getting this wrong, but isn't Kurt
just trying to do this
https://www.lastmilegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?
cPath=44products_id=366

Basically modify Canopy? What is so wrong with that?


  
  
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RE: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Rick Harnish








We use these exclusively with our outdoor
enclosures. We have tried numerous others and we have decided that these rock.
Kudos to Pac Wireless. I imagine we have used at least 30 of them in the last
few months. We did find one that was bad. Test before you take to the field.
It sure makes exchanging equipment a breeze. 





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Harnish

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From:
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006
4:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor
Ethernet Splice







I don't think I'd use it for an
inline splice personally.





A Short Cat5 cable is fixed to one
side of the device.











Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



















- Original Message - 





From: Mark Nash 





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Sent: Monday,
January 23, 2006 2:22 PM





Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Outdoor Ethernet Splice











Tom, would you please confirm...can
these be used for both bulkhead connections on a pass-through into and
enclosure AND an inline splice without an enclosure?











Thanks!






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From: Tom
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Outdoor Ethernet Splice











Yes they work well.











ONly one thing... The Bulkhead Nut
looks identicle to the Nut for the other type of Ethernet connectors that are
standard for Rootennas. (The ones the cable just goes through and rubbers
around it.). They are NOT the same NUT! IF you get the NUTs confused, it
strips, and when you go to turn tighted the Bulk head nut, it slips and
rotates. When you use the correct NUT, it workds well and is snug.











Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband



















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Sent: Monday,
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Subject: Re: [WISPA]
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This looks intresting. Anyone
use these first hand?











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Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Outdoor Ethernet Splice









Would this work? 
http://www.wisp-router.com/product_info.php?cPath=38products_id=389


Scott Reed 
Owner 
NewWays 
Wireless Networking 
Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 


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Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice 

 Anyone have recommendations on products you use for outdoor, weatherproof 
 ethernet splices? 
 
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RE: [WISPA] soldering radio's

2006-01-23 Thread Rick Harnish








I am officially cancelling this thread.
Illegal modification of radios is not a topic that needs to be discussed on
WISPA list servs. I suggest Kurt work directly with Motorola with his plans
of modification. If he feels he has a good idea, he should consult with a
patent attorney as well as the FCC. He may have some good ideas that may
result in a better product, but this is not the place to discuss it. Anyone
wishing to discuss this more, take it offlist.



Thank you,





Rick
Harnish

President

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Broadband  Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

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VoIP

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From:
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006
9:29 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] soldering
radio's





Even so, it has to be
built before it can be certified. 
We'll just have to assume that this is for testing and he'll have Moto's and
the FCC's approval before he uses it. 
Because like you said, this is not a place where we talk about breaking the FCC
rules. 
I know I wouldn't want the FCC enforcement team tracking me down.


Steve Stroh wrote: 


The big difference is that Last Mile Gear is MOTOROLA authorized to do
such modifications, and THEY have had THEIR modifications FCC certified. 

Stating this question in public is a gigantic invitation for competitors
to invite the FCC in for a chat and a looksee given the now-documented
(here on the list) possibility that there are illegally modified Part-15
gear radios in use. 


Thanks, 

Steve 


On Jan 23, 2006, at 17:33, Brian Rohrbacher wrote: 




Maybe I am getting this wrong, but isn't Kurt just
trying to do this https://www.lastmilegear.com/catalog/product_info.php?
cPath=44products_id=366 
Basically modify Canopy? What is so wrong with that? 


--- 

Steve Stroh 
425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
http://www.stevestroh.com 





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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Justin Wilson
This is not an actual splice. It's a bulkhead connector. Save yourself
trouble and just re-run the cable. You will have a much better life, trust
me on this one.

Justin
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 Subject: Wireless Digest, Vol 11, Issue 38
 
 To tell you the truth I have been looking at those for months now and
 couldnt decide if it was an actual  splicer (which I could use a few
 of) or something you add to an outdoor enclosure for a pass-thru. (of
 which I could use a few)
 
   If someone figures it out - - please post :-)


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RE: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Rick Harnish
I agree with Justin, this is not a splice.  All our attempts at splicing
Ethernet outdoors has resulted in another service call 3-6 months down the
road and a new run of Ethernet.  Its cheaper to run new cable and be done
with it than to splice and pray.  Nothing worse than to have disgruntled
customers over sloppy work.  If you do splice, make sure you use a heavy
duty shrink tube w/glue around a good tape job.  

Rick Harnish
President
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

This is not an actual splice. It's a bulkhead connector. Save yourself
trouble and just re-run the cable. You will have a much better life, trust
me on this one.

Justin
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 To: wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Wireless Digest, Vol 11, Issue 38
 
 To tell you the truth I have been looking at those for months now and
 couldnt decide if it was an actual  splicer (which I could use a few
 of) or something you add to an outdoor enclosure for a pass-thru. (of
 which I could use a few)
 
   If someone figures it out - - please post :-)


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Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Mark Nash
Thanks, I just ordered one.  I'll check it out.  If it can be weatherproofed 
and isn't too difficult to deal with it may solve my problem of having 
enough cable as I replace the EtherAnt-Turbo's.


Mark Nash
Network Engineer
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Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:53 PM
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I haven't used these, but someone on one of these lists pointed them
out a while back.

http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=565-0107

I am going to order some in one of these days. They look good to me.

John Vogel


Mark Nash wrote:


Anyone have recommendations on products you use for outdoor, weatherproof
ethernet splices?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
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Re: [WISPA] MT W/ OSPF Problem

2006-01-23 Thread Bo Hamilton
I just wanted to give a public thank you to Butch Evans! He knew what the problem was. My source-nat rule was set to all interfaces and needed to be set to the WAN. Thanks again Butch!!

Bo Hamilton
NCOWireless.com
On 1/23/06, Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This has nothing to do with OSPF, call me I know what it is.


Kurt Fankhauser
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Bucyrus, OH 44820
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Subject: [WISPA] MT W/ OSPF Problem


Hello everyone! Im using MT W/ OSPF and Im unable to hitcertain backhaul radios or computers on my backhaul sub.




Example:



On a switch (Radio, Ftp Server Web server, MT Router)---(Backhaul10.10.1.x/24)---Radio-MT router ether1




(Same Board)MT Ether2RadioAP--(wireless sub 10.155.2.x/24)Client



If im on the client end I cannot reach my internal ftp server or my web server, but I can hit my core router(10.10.1.x) or my Mt router ether1(same sub)at the tower. So in short, anything plugged into my switch atthe NOC besides my core routerI canaccess. Weird! 


Anyone got an idea



Thanks



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RE: [WISPA] Outdoor Ethernet Splice

2006-01-23 Thread Todd Barber
You can also fill the end around the o-rings with silicon to eliminate any
place for water to pool if they happen to be mounted vertically.  

Todd Barber
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I always put in 3 or 4 feet of extra cat 5 at the radio end :-P.

That's the same connector as sb uses.  They are nice but make sure they sit 
horrizontal as water will eventually leak past the o-rings etc.

marlon

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I haven't used these, but someone on one of these lists pointed them
 out a while back.

 http://www.alliedelec.com/Search/ProductDetail.asp?SKU=565-0107

 I am going to order some in one of these days. They look good to me.

 John Vogel


 Mark Nash wrote:

Anyone have recommendations on products you use for outdoor, weatherproof
ethernet splices?

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax






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