Thanks for all of the feedback.
For clarification, the LMR400 cable was 140
feet and was the only cable that connected the analyzer to the antenna.
I am familiar with the IDU and ODU
configuration of the Redline equipment.
This test was to see what 5.8 RF was
present. The
I think what you thought was RG6 was actually RG59 - Redline is a pretty clean platform so I don't think too many issues will arise from the deployment of that platform in your area.
JohnnyO
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 07:31 -0600, Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Thanks for all of the feedback.
AUGH!
This whole thread..
Some have touched on pieces of it but how about this summary..
The Redline is a two piece radio. It does not send 5 Ghz up the cable.
It sends an IF frequency which is lower and more forgiving as well as
power to operate the outdoor unit. The
Tom,
There are always several ways to skin that cat!
Well the larger antenna would certainly allow you to decrease your back lobe
and increase power and the size of your ear.
If the problem is interference at your site, a lot of this is going to
depend on how your site is built, length of
If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup
with peak hold you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of
the day. It still speaks, handshakes and more.
Just setting up big shots and blowing people out is bad business for
everyone. If the customer wants
Dustin Jurman wrote:
If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup
with peak hold you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of
the day. It still speaks, handshakes and more.
I don't know about you but I'm not about to leave a spectrum analyzer
I think you hit the nail on the headBob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AUGH!This whole thread..Some have touched on pieces of it but how about this summary..The Redline is a two piece radio. It does not send 5 Ghz up the cable. It sends an IF frequency which is lower and
Takes no more than a few minutes to perform a peak hold Bob, maybe you
should get one and play with it a bit. It's a very powerful tool and I
think your opinion will change.
I agree that we have two different schools of thought.
1. Plan the play, play the plan.
2. Show up for the game.
Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts.
Since we have been hired for part of this project, I believe it is my
RESPONSIBILITY to point out any known issues to the customer; and, it is
my responsibility to back up my concerns with hard date, not just 'my
feelings.' In the event
Dustin Jurman wrote:
Takes no more than a few minutes to perform a peak hold Bob, maybe you
should get one and play with it a bit. It's a very powerful tool and I
think your opinion will change.
LOL.Trust me. I know all about peak hold. And my opinion doesn't
change.
I
Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts.
Since we have been hired for part of this project, I believe it is my
RESPONSIBILITY to point out any known issues to the customer; and, it is
my responsibility to back up my concerns with hard date, not just 'my
I totally agree with Dustin here.
Hanging them without looking first is akin to running a stop sign. You'll
probably be fine, most of the time. But..
It doesn't take long to look.
Bob's right, things can and almost always do get missed. Dustin is also
right though, one should find
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flawed Spectrum Analysis (I think!)
Cliff Leboeuf wrote:
Dustin, thanks for the encouraging support of my efforts.
Bob,
I understand you comments and totally agree.
They have been informed that any analysis is just a 'snapshot' of the
conditions at the time takes. Just like a picture from a camera.
Thanks again,
Cliff
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On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 10:17 -0500, Bob Moldashel wrote:
Dustin Jurman wrote:
If the spectrum analyzer is left in place for a period of time and setup
with peak hold you will quickly find that radio that is used at the end of
the day. It still speaks, handshakes and more.
I don't know
Good catch Jack!
Here's the letter I just sent to my congresswoman:
Dear Congresswoman McMorris,
As a long time (nearly a decade now) Internet Service Provider and founding
board member of the Wireless Internet Service Provider's Association
(www.wispa.org) I would like to talk with you or
List,
Can someone tell me if the output power of the SuperRange2 card can
be adjusted to any power output or just predetermined discrete levels,
ie, 50mw, 100mw, 200mw.? If only discrete levels, what are they? I
can't find web documentation for the SR2 anywhere. Lastly, is there a
Hi All,
I've been asked to provide a network for a complex of buildings.
They like the ease of deployment and flexibility of a Trango based network.
I'll lock them into a 3 year contract that will match the time frame I'll
need for a bank loan for the hardware.
I'll need to put in 3 ap's
Marlon,
A you going to keep ownership of the equipment and just provide them
with a connectivity solution; or, are you going to pass ownership to
them and just maintain the system for them?
- Cliff
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http://resources.mini-box.com/online/Super%20Range%202%20miniPCI/Super%20Ran
ge%202%20miniPCI-specs.pdf
You will have to convert dB to mW
http://my.athenet.net/~multiplx/cgi-bin/dbconv.main.cgi
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I would strongly suggest looking at Mikrotik for the following reasons.
#1 - Pricing - very inexpensive to maintain and swap out equipment in the event of a failure
#2 - You can provide them up to 36meg connectivity for the same pricing anyone can offer then 10megs
#3 - Ease of replacements
The system will be mine. But by the time it gets pulled out it's likely to
be pretty obsolete.
Equipment costs will be handled separately from the service contract.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
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Hiya Johnny,
This is a casino. The security and
reliability requirements rule out any 802.11 type gear.
Marlon(509)
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And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net
Why 3 APs ?
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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www.aeronetpr.com
787.273.4143
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Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006
3:03 PM
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Need coverage in 3 different directions. And
trango ap's only come with 60* sectors.
Plus, they'll likely put in some video surveillance
and that will need lots of capacity so we're heading off any likely bw
issues.
Marlon(509)
982-2181
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910
(Vonage)
Consulting
1 suggestion, Last Mile Gear Canopy
Advantage Omni
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.aeronetpr.com
787.273.4143
From:
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982-2181
Sent: Friday,
$40 to $80 per location per month should do the trick. My old High
School is doing this with me and I am charging $250 per month contract
to service about 6 buildings. They get connectivity every place they
want and I get a monthly fee to keep it running. By the way, I retain
ownership of all
Heard yesterday from Trango thatthey (in
about a month) will come out with a connectorized version of the 5830 AP and
will certify a Pacwireless omni hpol sector.
Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly
StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599
I know I work with EC. And I know people like
Canopy. I know I'm only supposed to say nice things.
But Motorola is STILL working hard at the FCC level
to hamstring this industry. I'll not support them unless there are no
other choices. I won't even use a moto cell phone at this point, I'm
That's pretty close to what I was thinking.
Thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
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64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
What are they doing at the FCC??Can you point me to a few links or otherwise enlighten me?On Feb 10, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I know I work with EC. And I know people like Canopy. I know I'm only supposed to say nice things. But Motorola is STILL working hard
The Cellular Sector is pushing for
licensing the 3.65 band You got to understand that MOTO is huge
organization not like other Manufacturers. And The Cellular Division is
pushing for licensing the 3.65 band so they can sell more BTS to the Cell operators.AFAIK,
the Canopy group has nothing
Ohh and you like Trango even tough they
pulled the plug on Distis like EC ? ..
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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787.273.4143
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Marlon,
You can open up the Trango 5830AP case and there are already
connectors in there. Just unplug the ones to the internal antenna and
plug in the new MMCX to NFemale adapter, drill out the hole for the
NFemale(or your choice) either in the side or through the plastic front.
Its easy
I have talked to Trango ( as a matter of fact they visited me here
Tuesday) at length about that issue Gino and they had reasons for
pulling their VAR's and resellers. I kinda figured it had something to
do with the new products and lack of a LARGE profit margin :-)
Mac
G.Villarini wrote:
Ok, Thanks.I use to work for a large corp., they seem to like to shoot their own feet off.On Feb 10, 2006, at 1:24 PM, G.Villarini wrote: The Cellular Sector is pushing for licensing the 3.65 band… You got to understand that MOTO is huge organization not like other Manufacturers. And The
They know cause I've told them :-).
There are issues in the 700 band too. EVERY
filing has been against unlicensed.
laters,
Marlon(509)
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And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net
Sigh
Yeah, it sucked. But they've done that more
than once. We all knew it would happen. It wasn't an if, it was a
when.
And it's really quite different. They didn't
do anything that hurt the overall industry. Their reputation, sure.
No one's going to ever trust them. But that's not
Grin
No thanks! I like my warranties!
And part of the reason for so many ap's is to keep the capacity up when they
start doing video across the network.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
Surely they know, but there isnt much
they can do when the Cell div. pulls x100 more $ than the Canopy Div.
Gino A. Villarini,
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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787.273.4143
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Which fancy enclosure with a heater and external fan did you choose? How much was it? Are you happy with it?Thanks,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC
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I'd like to see the NEMA boxes you are using. I have thought of putting
an atx board on top of a grain leg but have not yet found a cost
effective way to do it.
Power supply is the main issue. running 100W of power up there is
not easy or cheap 48V @ 2.1A or 12V @ 8.2A.
At 48V,
Dustin,
While I haven't done any current work with the 2 foot Gabriel professional
series I've been hearing enough good stuff about it that I ordered one to
play with and see if it worth deploying.
So far I like the Gabriel antennas. However, I am starting to see a pattern
where the various
Tom,
I currently have several Pac Wireless 5.8ghz 2ft dishes running at
5.3ghz with no packet loss. Granted, the RSSI is 1-2db higher than it
should be, but they do work.
Travis
Microserv
Tom DeReggi wrote:
Dustin,
While I haven't done any current work with the 2 foot Gabriel
OOPs, I'm writing quicker than I'm thinking, and
getting myself confused. I'm not using the Amp with the Range 2.
The subscriber side had a Range2 (400watt). The AP
side had a CM9 with Rflinx 250WAmp (802.11G model).
Some weird things had happened, like I had an
antenna and amp plugged on
I agree with your concern. Most likely the person
doing the testing is the person doing the sale of the Redline?
Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless
Broadband
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Sent: Friday, February
Mac - got a How To for this ?
JohnnyO
On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 14:31 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote:
Marlon,
You can open up the Trango 5830AP case and there are already
connectors in there. Just unplug the ones to the internal antenna and
plug in the new MMCX to NFemale adapter, drill out the
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