Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Peter R.
I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to 
some prospective ISPs.

(http://www.rad-info.net/partners/adzilla.htm)
Adzilla is a possible revenue stream for ISPs through ad replacement. 
(Instead of them seeing the ILEC ad, they can see you ad). It is 
definitely worth a listen to.


For larger ISPs (25k subs or higher), there is another revenue 
generation stream: Bare Fruit. 
(http://www.rad-info.net/partners/barefruit.htm)
When your users get a HTTP error (like 404 or 500) from a search, the 
Bare Fruit server will offer up a page of links along with the message 
that the page you click on was unavailable, perhaps these links would 
be suitable.
The links come from a search of the clicked link and each click through 
pays the ISP. (This can amount to huge revenue).


These are some of the ways for an ISP to gain revenue from its existing 
network of eyeballs. (In both cases, no upfront costs for the ISP either).


Regards,

Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc.
813.963.5884


Charles Wu wrote:


Here's an interesting concept (so interesting, in fact, that we made a
session about it at our next show)

All wireless network operators today carry Internet advertising over their
networks.  All that network traffic equates to more than $14 billion dollars
per year and is growing at double-digit rates every year.  Yet, even though
the network operator is responsible for connecting the eyeball to the ad,
they are left conspicuously on the sidelines when the advertising revenue
checks are being handed out.

John Wigboldus from Adzilla New Media will discuss how the wireless network
operator needs to think and act like a cable television company to start
earning revenue from advertisements that are being shown to their viewers.

More details at: http://www.winog.com

Now sure exactly what they're about -- but IMO, it's an interesting thought
(and I'm gonna try to make that session =)

Btw, for those of you that can't make it -- don't fret, we DO post
powerpoints after the show available for public download (but of course it's
NEVER as good as actually being there =)

-Charles


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Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors

2006-03-07 Thread Julius Igugu

http://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html#specs
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Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors


Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n 
15-124, in a 3 antenna array?  Anyone know what the front to back ratio 
is on one of these?  How about weatherability?


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[WISPA] OT: Automated Call System

2006-03-07 Thread Bill Austin
I need to setup an automated call system.  One where someone dials in 
and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes 
through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message.


Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice 
will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Bill


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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-07 Thread Matt Liotta

Charles Wu wrote:


Out of curiosity...do you mean 2-5 cents per minute? Or 0.2 to 0.5 cents per
minute?

 


.2 cents; 2 cents a minute wouldn't be a very good deal.

-Matt

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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-07 Thread Brian Whigham
care to share who you're using for termination or how much volume you're 
purchasing?


Matt Liotta wrote:


Charles Wu wrote:

Out of curiosity...do you mean 2-5 cents per minute? Or 0.2 to 0.5 
cents per

minute?

 


.2 cents; 2 cents a minute wouldn't be a very good deal.

-Matt


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Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System

2006-03-07 Thread Brian Whigham

Bill,
Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned
messages for callers like a call center does?  For example, your
cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option
codes to talk to the correct department.  If that's what you're looking
for, use Asterisk PBX.  It's  an open-source PBX server.

see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk
http://www.digium.com/

I can help you set up a server, if needed.

Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks
www.yondernetworks.com
478-442-1678


Bill Austin wrote:

I need to setup an automated call system.  One where someone dials in 
and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes 
through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message.


Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other 
advice will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Bill




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Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance

2006-03-07 Thread Matt Liotta

I can't share that information.

-Matt

Brian Whigham wrote:

care to share who you're using for termination or how much volume 
you're purchasing?


Matt Liotta wrote:


Charles Wu wrote:

Out of curiosity...do you mean 2-5 cents per minute? Or 0.2 to 0.5 
cents per

minute?

 


.2 cents; 2 cents a minute wouldn't be a very good deal.

-Matt



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[WISPA] Looking for a wireless cam

2006-03-07 Thread Victoria
We are going to be doing some events where we would like to broadcast on the
web.  

Any one have any experience with this?  If so what type of cam, server, etc.


Thanks!
Victoria Proffer
www.StLouisBroadBand.com
314-974-5600

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for a wireless cam

2006-03-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

I've got a unit from EC, made by Inscape Data.

Hit me off list if you'd like the ip addy so you can view it.

Ethernet, wifi, motion sensor, external inputs and outputs.  Very cool 
stuff.  They run about $500.  You can add outdoor enclosures and ptz if you 
want as well.


Hope that helps,
Marlon
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42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:42 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Looking for a wireless cam


We are going to be doing some events where we would like to broadcast on 
the

web.

Any one have any experience with this?  If so what type of cam, server, 
etc.



Thanks!
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RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Eric DaVersa
Charles - glad to hear that John is speaking at WiNOG! Your attendees
should find his presentation VERY interested.

We partnered with Adzilla recently.  With our growth in the Citywide
Wi-Fi market and all the FREE offerings out there, I did a lot of
research on advertising models to help Network Operators make money.  In
the end, Adzilla really was far ahead of the curve.  

Imagine this concept...the more my network is used, the more money I
make. Hmmm...INCONCEIVABLE!!!

The thing that Network Operators can't seem to grasp is, What do you
mean I stick this appliance at my POP and you start sending me checks?

The answer is YES.  But since Network Operators are so foreign to the
concept of advertising it generally requires a long explanation and a
PowerPoint (it's OK - I needed that too.) grin

The advertising can be tweaked to the point that the ads are virtually
unnoticeable to your clients.  Adzilla has developed a proprietary way
to deliver more relevant, localized ads in partnership with ad servers
and web publishers.

For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of
the package.  You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging
DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP.  This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7
days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x
hours. 

It can also be used for marketing direct to the desktop!  Imagine that -
a message for your VOIP service to raise ARPUs, or other new service
enhancements.

It's really quite revolutionary.  I'll be glad to explain more to anyone
who's interested.

Respectfully,

Eric DaVersa
Vice-President, Business Development
NetLogix
OFFICE: 858.764.1998
CELL: 858.245.6702
FAX: 858.764.1982
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:52 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams

I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to

some prospective ISPs.
(http://www.rad-info.net/partners/adzilla.htm)
Adzilla is a possible revenue stream for ISPs through ad replacement. 
(Instead of them seeing the ILEC ad, they can see you ad). It is 
definitely worth a listen to.

For larger ISPs (25k subs or higher), there is another revenue 
generation stream: Bare Fruit. 
(http://www.rad-info.net/partners/barefruit.htm)
When your users get a HTTP error (like 404 or 500) from a search, the 
Bare Fruit server will offer up a page of links along with the message 
that the page you click on was unavailable, perhaps these links would 
be suitable.
The links come from a search of the clicked link and each click through 
pays the ISP. (This can amount to huge revenue).

These are some of the ways for an ISP to gain revenue from its existing 
network of eyeballs. (In both cases, no upfront costs for the ISP
either).

Regards,

Peter
RAD-INFO, Inc.
813.963.5884


Charles Wu wrote:

Here's an interesting concept (so interesting, in fact, that we made a
session about it at our next show)

All wireless network operators today carry Internet advertising over
their
networks.  All that network traffic equates to more than $14 billion
dollars
per year and is growing at double-digit rates every year.  Yet, even
though
the network operator is responsible for connecting the eyeball to the
ad,
they are left conspicuously on the sidelines when the advertising
revenue
checks are being handed out.

John Wigboldus from Adzilla New Media will discuss how the wireless
network
operator needs to think and act like a cable television company to
start
earning revenue from advertisements that are being shown to their
viewers.

More details at: http://www.winog.com

Now sure exactly what they're about -- but IMO, it's an interesting
thought
(and I'm gonna try to make that session =)

Btw, for those of you that can't make it -- don't fret, we DO post
powerpoints after the show available for public download (but of course
it's
NEVER as good as actually being there =)

-Charles


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March 13-15, 2006
http://www.winog.com 

  

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[WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Nash



Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for a 
YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from a 
WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 
48vdc.

Thanks.
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EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 
97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
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Re: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply

2006-03-07 Thread Julius Igugu



It should be 12V.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark Nash 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:44 
  PM
  Subject: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power 
  Supply
  
  Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for 
  a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from 
  a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 
  48vdc.
  
  Thanks.
  Mark NashNetwork 
  EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 
  97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
  fax
  
  

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RE: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply

2006-03-07 Thread Brian Webster



As I recall 
that is correct if you are using the POE adapter. I just worked on a unipop with 
an AMP that had one.

Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com

  -Original Message-From: Mark Nash 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:45 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus 
  Power Supply
  Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for 
  a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from 
  a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 
  48vdc.
  
  Thanks.
  Mark NashNetwork 
  EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 
  97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
  fax
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Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System

2006-03-07 Thread Bill Austin

Hi Brian,

I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex.  I need a 
system that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly 
cell phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play 
a message.


I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate 
the sequence.  I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave 
a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message.


I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs. 
 I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down 
the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list.


I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this.  I 
can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere.


Thanks,
Bill



Brian Whigham wrote:

Bill,
Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned
messages for callers like a call center does?  For example, your
cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option
codes to talk to the correct department.  If that's what you're looking
for, use Asterisk PBX.  It's  an open-source PBX server.

see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk
http://www.digium.com/

I can help you set up a server, if needed.

Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks
www.yondernetworks.com
478-442-1678


Bill Austin wrote:

I need to setup an automated call system.  One where someone dials in 
and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes 
through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message.


Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other 
advice will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Bill






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Re: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Nash



Sorry...I should have specified. I'm not 
using the PoE. I could, but I'd rather not.
Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly 
StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
fax

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Brian Webster 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 11:26 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power 
  Supply
  
  As I 
  recall that is correct if you are using the POE adapter. I just worked on a 
  unipop with an AMP that had one.
  
  Thank You,
  Brian Webster
  www.wirelessmapping.com
  
-Original Message-From: Mark Nash 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:45 
PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus 
Power Supply
Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need 
for a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing 
it from a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think 
it's 48vdc.

Thanks.
Mark NashNetwork 
EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 
97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
fax
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System

2006-03-07 Thread Jory Privett
So you want something that calls out to a list of numbers right?   You can 
get the software that the new automated telemarketers are using.  I have 
seen it several times  but I do not remember where.  It basically  calls a 
list of numbers and plays a pre recorded message.

Jory Privett
WCCS



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From: Bill Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System


Hi Brian,

I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex.  I need a
system that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly
cell phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play
a message.

I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate
the sequence.  I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave
a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message.

I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs.
  I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down
the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list.

I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this.  I
can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere.

Thanks,
Bill



Brian Whigham wrote:
 Bill,
 Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned
 messages for callers like a call center does?  For example, your
 cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option
 codes to talk to the correct department.  If that's what you're looking
 for, use Asterisk PBX.  It's  an open-source PBX server.

 see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk
 http://www.digium.com/

 I can help you set up a server, if needed.

 Brian Whigham
 Yonder Networks
 www.yondernetworks.com
 478-442-1678


 Bill Austin wrote:

 I need to setup an automated call system.  One where someone dials in
 and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes
 through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message.

 Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other
 advice will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Bill




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Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System

2006-03-07 Thread Brian Whigham

Bill,
Yeah, of course Asterisk can do that.  You could buy a turn-key system 
and have that be part of it's features.  You could use it for that solely.


I see that there are online services which are pay per use as well.  I 
just noticed http://www.notifyquick.com/howto/canned_call.asp


Here's a product that allows you to use your voicemodem for $300, or 
even free, if you don't mind a Voicent plug in a ddition to your message 
and have only 20 numbers.


http://www.voicent.com/autodialers.php

Brian

Bill Austin wrote:


Hi Brian,

I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex.  I need a 
system that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly 
cell phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and 
play a message.


I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and 
activate the sequence.  I would prefer to be able to call in each 
night and leave a new message, and then have it call each number and 
replay the message.


I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my 
needs.  I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so 
that down the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the 
list.


I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this.  
I can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere.


Thanks,
Bill



Brian Whigham wrote:


Bill,
Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned
messages for callers like a call center does?  For example, your
cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option
codes to talk to the correct department.  If that's what you're looking
for, use Asterisk PBX.  It's  an open-source PBX server.

see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk
http://www.digium.com/

I can help you set up a server, if needed.

Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks
www.yondernetworks.com
478-442-1678


Bill Austin wrote:

I need to setup an automated call system.  One where someone dials 
in and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes 
through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message.


Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other 
advice will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Bill







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Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System

2006-03-07 Thread Jason Hensley

Bill,

Not sure if you got my offlist email, but you can go to www.tavoca.com and 
look at their GroupCall product.  Does exactly what you need it to do.


Friend of mine runs this company and will do great for what you want.




- Original Message - 
From: Bill Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System



Hi Brian,

I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex.  I need a system 
that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly cell 
phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play a 
message.


I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate 
the sequence.  I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave a 
new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message.


I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs. 
I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down the 
road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list.


I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this.  I 
can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere.


Thanks,
Bill



Brian Whigham wrote:

Bill,
Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned
messages for callers like a call center does?  For example, your
cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option
codes to talk to the correct department.  If that's what you're looking
for, use Asterisk PBX.  It's  an open-source PBX server.

see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk
http://www.digium.com/

I can help you set up a server, if needed.

Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks
www.yondernetworks.com
478-442-1678


Bill Austin wrote:

I need to setup an automated call system.  One where someone dials in 
and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes 
through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message.


Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice 
will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Bill






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Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors

2006-03-07 Thread KyWiFi LLC
How much can this model be purchased for? It looks like
a good high gain H-POL sector IMO. We've been quite
pleased with SuperPass sectors but their gain is only 13.5dBi
for a 120 Degree H-POL.


Sincerely,
Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder
KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky
http://www.KyWiFi.com
http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com
Phone: 859.274.4033
A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider

==
Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and
UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!

No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles

FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com
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- Original Message - 
From: Julius Igugu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors


http://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html#specs
- Original Message - 
From: Jason Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors


 Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n 
 15-124, in a 3 antenna array?  Anyone know what the front to back ratio 
 is on one of these?  How about weatherability?
 
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Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now

2006-03-07 Thread Steve Stroh


Rick:

I think you're confused with 3.65 GHz (still in the works, FCC proposed 
contention-based sharing mechanism.)


This is an additional 255 MHz of spectrum around 5.4 GHz and IT 
requires Dynamic Frequency Sharing (I think?) - DFS - basically if the 
radio hears a US DOD RADAR system, it changes channels to get out of 
the way.


It's low power, but some interesting gear should come out for 
high-bandwidth, relatively short-range.



Mac:

It IS available to everyone - we'll see it used for WLANs. Good news 
is that it may well be enough to encourage WLANs and cordless phones 
to use that portion of the spectrum instead of 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz.



Thanks,

Steve

On Mar 6, 2006, at 08:47, Rick Harnish wrote:


Mac,

As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to 
be
allowed to use the spectrum.  I would doubt if many consumer devices 
will be

allowed to operate in this spectrum.

I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade 
for

the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum.
http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html

I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra 
upgrade.



Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
260-307-4000 Cell
260-918-4340 VoIP
www.oibw.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now

Marlon,

  Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned 
loose
to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this 
going to


be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I 
am

dreaming here!!

Thanks,
Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
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[WISPA] OT: VoIP termination

2006-03-07 Thread Brian Whigham
I don't know what volume Matt's dealing with.  But, I haven't checked 
the lowest prices in a few months; so my interest was piqued.


Here's what I found.  If anyone has any experience with these providers, 
let me know.  Both provide IAX2 and SIP.


sellvoip.net (since '97)
Product Monthly CostSetup Cost  Usage Cost
Local DID   $1.00   $1.00   $0.011 per minute
Toll-Free DID   $1.00   $2.00   $0.020 per minute US 48*

LNP available
DIDs were local to many rural GA areas (where I am)

plainvoip
USA termination - $0.009
Toll-free terminatoin - $0.005
6/6 billing

Currently, I use voipjet.com and voxee.com with much success.  Domestic 
rates are $0.013 and $0.011 per minute, respectively.  I think they both 
bill 6/6.


Brian
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Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Koskenmaki

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-
- Original Message - 
From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams



 For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of
 the package.  You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging
 DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP.  This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7
 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x
 hours.

I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining,
customers.   The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too
intrusive for me to consider.



North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!

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Re: [WISPA] Blocking ripe network ip space?

2006-03-07 Thread Eric Merkel
Is there a place to get a list of currently allocated IP space by
country? I am considering doing something similar but will probably
not do an all out block but maybe do some connection rate limiting of
IP space from those countries.

-Eric

On 3/6/06, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mac Dearman wrote:

  90% of spam messages to our network and 99% of the DOS attacks we are
  suffering are in the IP space of RIPE network and I am considering
  blocking all IPs from RIPE.  What would be the most detrimental affect
  of this for my clients? other than the obvious no traffic to/from the
  EU?  Anyone else ever done this? If I were a National ISP I realize I
  couldnt do this - - keep in mind I serve a local rural network :-) in
  Louisiana

 Technically, there shouldn't be any major issues. Heck, depending on
 what kind of router you use, you may even be able to automate the
 process (completewhois and Team Cymru both offer a number of crazy BGP
 feed options, you may be able to just get a BGP feed from one of them
 that has a more-or-less current list of RIPE IPs and just route 'em to
 Null0).

 I'm real close to just blocking all of China and Brazil for the same
 reason - too much spam and random DDOS traffic originating from there.
 (I haven't seen very much from RIPE space, by comparison.)

 There is bound to be more than a few legitimate applications hosted in
 RIPE space that, sooner or later, you or one of your end-users will want
 to see. Consider starting with merely blocking SMTP traffic, or (if
 your mail filtering system supports this) just tagging mail from RIPE
 space as potential spam. And there are other ways to detect and block
 potential DDOS traffic, though I can't afford most of them, so I'm not
 the best person to ask on that point.

 If you really want to stir something up, go ask this question on the
 NANOG list. :D

 David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply

2006-03-07 Thread Mac Dearman



Mark,

 I can tell you for a fact it is 5.0volts/ 4.00A (it 
also has a propriteary end)and it is an Orinoco AP2000 Power supply as the 
YDI AP-Plus is an Orinoco AP2000 :-)

 If you are doing POE you will need an ethernet 
splitter at the AP and it needs to be fed 48Volts

 I have pics and links if you need them - - hit me 
off list or give me a ring if I can help.

Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda 
ResellerMikroTik RouterOS Certifiedwww.inetsouth.comwww.mac-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina 
Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600 318.303.4228318.303.4229





  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark Nash 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:44 
  PM
  Subject: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power 
  Supply
  
  Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for 
  a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from 
  a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 
  48vdc.
  
  Thanks.
  Mark NashNetwork 
  EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 
  97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
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Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors

2006-03-07 Thread Ron Wallace
For MTI, its http://www.mtiwe.com/
-Original Message-From: KyWiFi LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 05:16 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA] Teletronics SectorsHow much can this model be purchased for? It looks likea good high gain H-POL sector IMO. We've been quitepleased with SuperPass sectors but their gain is only 13.5dBifor a 120 Degree H-POL.Sincerely,Shannon D. Denniston, Co-FounderKyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentuckyhttp://www.KyWiFi.comhttp://www.KyWiFiVoice.comPhone: 859.274.4033A Broadband Phone  Internet Provider==Wireless Broadband, Local Calling andUNLIMITED Long Distance only $69!No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No HasslesFREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com==- Original Message - From: "Julius Igugu" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:26 AMSubject: Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectorshttp://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html#specs- Original Message - From: "Jason Wallace" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:24 PMSubject: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n  15-124, in a 3 antenna array? Anyone know what the front to back ratio  is on one of these? How about weatherability?  Jason Wallace --  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org  Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless  Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Eric DaVersa
The simple answer to that is don't use that option.  The ad
optimization is transparent and its basically free money.  I usually
have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so
in the interest of saving time...

It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free
money.

Eric DaVersa
Vice-President, Business Development
NetLogix
OFFICE: 858.764.1998
CELL: 858.245.6702
FAX: 858.764.1982
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams


North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
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-
- Original Message - 
From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams



 For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of
 the package.  You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging
 DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP.  This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7
 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within
x
 hours.

I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not
gaining,
customers.   The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too
intrusive for me to consider.



North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
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Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting in Jackson, MS Today

2006-03-07 Thread Mac Dearman
I thought I would let all of you know I actually wore a suit  tie today to 
the FCC Katrina review panel today. It seems that 10 minutes is not very 
long to get your point across once you get started talking. I do think that 
we faired really well and I caught some slack with my Southern born/bred 
slang and accent as there were people on the panel who said that they could 
understand everything I said :-)


  It was really amazing to me as most of the speakers there were trying to 
sell their individual wares to the Gov't like ballons that float in near 
space at 66,000 feet and stay aloft for ..drum roll  20 
hours!!!  I will confess that I was trying to sell them on the right 
spectrum/frequency  for the right job. Did I say TV white space and or sub 
700MHz spectrum? - - - - - -  I did!!


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Authorized Barracuda Reseller
MikroTik RouterOS Certified
www.inetsouth.com
www.mac-tel.us
www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
Rayville, La.
318.728.8600
318.303.4228
318.303.4229





- Original Message - 
From: Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System



Bill,

Not sure if you got my offlist email, but you can go to www.tavoca.com and 
look at their GroupCall product.  Does exactly what you need it to do.


Friend of mine runs this company and will do great for what you want.




- Original Message - 
From: Bill Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System



Hi Brian,

I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex.  I need a system 
that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly cell 
phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play a 
message.


I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate 
the sequence.  I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave 
a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message.


I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs. 
I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down 
the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list.


I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this.  I 
can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere.


Thanks,
Bill



Brian Whigham wrote:

Bill,
Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned
messages for callers like a call center does?  For example, your
cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option
codes to talk to the correct department.  If that's what you're looking
for, use Asterisk PBX.  It's  an open-source PBX server.

see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk
http://www.digium.com/

I can help you set up a server, if needed.

Brian Whigham
Yonder Networks
www.yondernetworks.com
478-442-1678


Bill Austin wrote:

I need to setup an automated call system.  One where someone dials in 
and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes 
through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message.


Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice 
will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,
Bill






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Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Sign me up.  When and where???

Eric DaVersa wrote:


The simple answer to that is don't use that option.  The ad
optimization is transparent and its basically free money.  I usually
have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so
in the interest of saving time...

It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free
money.

Eric DaVersa
Vice-President, Business Development
NetLogix
OFFICE: 858.764.1998
CELL: 858.245.6702
FAX: 858.764.1982
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams


North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!


-
- Original Message - 
From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams


 


For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of
the package.  You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging
DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP.  This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7
days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within
   


x
 


hours.
   



I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not
gaining,
customers.   The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too
intrusive for me to consider.



North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!


-

 



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Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting in Jackson, MS Today

2006-03-07 Thread Ron Wallace
Mac,
You always seem to get right, Mac. Good to hear. And I agree with your approach, ya'll.-Original Message-From: Mac Dearman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 06:40 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting in Jackson, MS Today I thought I would let all of you know I actually wore a suit  tie today to the FCC Katrina review panel today. It seems that 10 minutes is not very long to get your point across once you get started talking. I do think that we faired really well and I caught some slack with my Southern born/bred slang and accent as there were people on the panel who said that they could understand everything I said :-) It was really amazing to me as most of the speakers there were trying to sell their individual wares to the Gov't like ballons that float in "near" space at 66,000 feet and stay aloft for ..drum roll  20 hours!!! I will confess that I was trying to sell them on the right spectrum/frequency for the right job. Did I say TV white space and or sub 700MHz spectrum? - - - - - - I did!!Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda ResellerMikroTik RouterOS Certifiedwww.inetsouth.comwww.mac-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600318.303.4228318.303.4229- Original Message - From: "Jason Hensley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:28 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System Bill, Not sure if you got my offlist email, but you can go to www.tavoca.com and  look at their GroupCall product. Does exactly what you need it to do. Friend of mine runs this company and will do great for what you want. - Original Message -  From: "Bill Austin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System Hi Brian, I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex. I need a system  that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly cell  phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play a  message. I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate  the sequence. I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave  a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message. I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs.  I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down  the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list. I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this. I  can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere. Thanks, Bill Brian Whigham wrote: Bill, Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned messages for callers like a call center does? For example, your cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option codes to talk to the correct department. If that's what you're looking for, use Asterisk PBX. It's an open-source PBX server. see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk http://www.digium.com/ I can help you set up a server, if needed. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks www.yondernetworks.com 478-442-1678 Bill Austin wrote: I need to setup an automated call system. One where someone dials in  and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes  through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message. Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice  will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill --  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --  WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Ron Wallace
Yea, Brian!-Original Message-From: Brian Rohrbacher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 06:50 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue StreamsSign me up. When and where???Eric DaVersa wrote:The simple answer to that is "don't use that option." The adoptimization is transparent and its basically free money. I usuallyhave to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, soin the interest of saving time...It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still freemoney.Eric DaVersaVice-President, Business DevelopmentNetLogixOFFICE: 858.764.1998CELL: 858.245.6702FAX: 858.764.1982[EMAIL PROTECTED]  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of Mark KoskenmakiSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue StreamsNorth East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO WIRES!-- Original Message - From: "Eric DaVersa" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AMSubject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part ofthe package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messagingDIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, "Dear Customer, your payment is 7days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours." I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, notgaining,customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is... toointrusive for me to consider.North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot netFast Internet, NO WIRES!- -- Brian RohrbacherReliable Internet, LLCwww.reliableinter.netCell 269-838-8338"Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Jory Privett
What are the subs  that I have to have to get a system like this???

Jory Privett
WCCS

- Original Message - 
From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams


The simple answer to that is don't use that option.  The ad
optimization is transparent and its basically free money.  I usually
have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so
in the interest of saving time...

It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free
money.

Eric DaVersa
Vice-President, Business Development
NetLogix
OFFICE: 858.764.1998
CELL: 858.245.6702
FAX: 858.764.1982
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams


North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!


-
- Original Message - 
From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams



 For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of
 the package.  You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging
 DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP.  This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7
 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within
x
 hours.

I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not
gaining,
customers.   The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too
intrusive for me to consider.



North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!


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RE: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now

2006-03-07 Thread Brad Larson
Steve, DFS. Dynamic Frequency Selection. Brad





-Original Message-
From: Steve Stroh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:19 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now



Rick:

I think you're confused with 3.65 GHz (still in the works, FCC proposed 
contention-based sharing mechanism.)

This is an additional 255 MHz of spectrum around 5.4 GHz and IT 
requires Dynamic Frequency Sharing (I think?) - DFS - basically if the 
radio hears a US DOD RADAR system, it changes channels to get out of 
the way.

It's low power, but some interesting gear should come out for 
high-bandwidth, relatively short-range.


Mac:

It IS available to everyone - we'll see it used for WLANs. Good news 
is that it may well be enough to encourage WLANs and cordless phones 
to use that portion of the spectrum instead of 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz.


Thanks,

Steve

On Mar 6, 2006, at 08:47, Rick Harnish wrote:

 Mac,

 As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to 
 be
 allowed to use the spectrum.  I would doubt if many consumer devices 
 will be
 allowed to operate in this spectrum.

 I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade 
 for
 the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum.
 http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html

 I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra 
 upgrade.


 Rick Harnish
 President
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
 260-827-2482 Office
 260-307-4000 Cell
 260-918-4340 VoIP
 www.oibw.net
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mac Dearman
 Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now

 Marlon,

   Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned 
 loose
 to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this 
 going to

 be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I 
 am
 dreaming here!!

 Thanks,
 Mac Dearman
 Maximum Access, LLC.
 Authorized Barracuda Reseller
 MikroTik RouterOS Certified
 www.inetsouth.com
 www.mac-tel.us
 www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)
 Rayville, La.
 318.728.8600
 318.303.4228
 318.303.4229


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[WISPA] New revenue stream

2006-03-07 Thread A. Huppenthal
I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would 
be okay to deploy on the network.


They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus 
additional fees for high load times.


When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they aren't 
in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content.


Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of 
liability exists..


It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew says 
they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.


Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are 
doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom line. I 
don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself  - 
answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.


Any experience with this?

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Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-07 Thread Alex Huppenthal
my apologies to the members of the list if they found it offensive.  
Reality is we need to consider content rules as much as need to  
consider VoIP gateways.
since you've arbitrarily decided its not 'proper content' based on  
your view, I've decided to drop my involvement in WISPA.  bye




On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Rick Harnish wrote:


Alex,

Please take this offlist.  This is not proper content for  
discussion on the

Wispa list servs.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
President
Supernova Technologies, Inc.
260-827-2482 Office
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Founding Member of WISPA
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of A. Huppenthal
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] New revenue stream

I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would
be okay to deploy on the network.

They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus
additional fees for high load times.

When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they  
aren't

in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content.

Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of
liability exists..

It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew  
says

they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.

Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are
doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom  
line. I

don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself  -
answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.

Any experience with this?

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[WISPA] New revenue service?

2006-03-07 Thread Blair Davis

I have been looking into offering a different service

Ad removed browsing.

Blocking ads as an extra cost service...

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RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Wu

What are the subs  that I have to have to get a system like this???

Jory Privett
WCCS

Hi Jory,

Are you coming to WiNOG? The people from Adzilla will be there, so you can
meet them first-hand and talk with them directly

-Charles

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March 13-15, 2006
http://www.winog.com 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jory Privett
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:10 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams



- Original Message - 
From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams


The simple answer to that is don't use that option.  The ad optimization
is transparent and its basically free money.  I usually have to say it 3
times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so in the interest of
saving time...

It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free
money.

Eric DaVersa
Vice-President, Business Development
NetLogix
OFFICE: 858.764.1998
CELL: 858.245.6702
FAX: 858.764.1982
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams


North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!


-
- Original Message - 
From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla  Revenue Streams



 For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of 
 the package.  You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging 
 DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP.  This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 
 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within
x
 hours.

I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining,
customers.   The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too
intrusive for me to consider.



North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061
personal correspondence to:  mark at neofast dot net
sales inquiries to:  purchasing at neofast dot net
Fast Internet, NO WIRES!


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RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*

2006-03-07 Thread Charles Wu
Title: Message



Like 
it or not, it is worth noting that p0rn accounts for a VAST OVERWHELMING 
MAJORITY of Internet traffic

-Charles


---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 
13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com 

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Ron WallaceSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:05 PMTo: 
  WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD 
  CLOSED!*
  Rick,
  I can certainly understand that many among us are offended by the very 
  mention of nudity on the internet, however, I do not understand why the 
  topicin question cannot be discussed on the WISPA list. I 
  understood the WISPA lists to be a forum of discussion to determine how 
  'members' felt about the activities of the FCC, and how we could have our 
  interests represented, for example. 
  Rick why is it 'not proper' for us to discuss the propriety of allowing 
  nude web sites, or not allowing, based upon the free and open discussion of 
  the precise impropriety of the question Mr. Huppenthal asked? I am a 
  paid member, I do not allow, if I know, sexually explicit material on my 
  system. Notwithstanding, I believe that an open discussion of the very 
  issue Mr. Huppenthal raised might clear the air and set some valuable 
  guidelines forus all.
  Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 
  49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  -Original Message-From: Rick Harnish 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 09:35 
  PMTo: ''WISPA General List''Subject: RE: [WISPA] New revenue 
  stream *THREAD CLOSED!*Alex,Please take this 
  offlist. This is not proper content for discussion on theWispa list 
  servs.Respectfully,  Rick 
  HarnishPresidentSupernova Technologies, 
  Inc.260-827-2482 
  Office[EMAIL PROTECTED]Founding Member of 
  WISPA -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  OnBehalf Of A. HuppenthalSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 
  PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] New revenue 
  streamI have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture 
  web server would be okay to deploy on the network.They 
  are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus 
  additional fees for high load times.When I called 
  Qwest to find out about their policy they said they aren't in the 
  business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering 
  content.Since this server is not one of the companies, I 
  wonder what sort of liability exists..It appears this 
  is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew says they want to 
  provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.Now I've 
  watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are doing and 
  how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom line. I don't 
  think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself - answer. Its 
  policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.Any experience 
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[WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism

2006-03-07 Thread Rick Harnish








To All,



I took over the moderation of the wireless@wispa.org list about a year and
one half ago. The previous moderator handed over the reigns for a variety
of reasons but many of which were criticisms about how he did his job and the
personal stress involved. I have received the same criticisms and have
let them hit my thick skin as gracefully as I could. 



This position is not a fun one, I need to try and keep up
with about 5 WISPA listservs as well as other duties for 50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists. Tonight, I was
about 75 messages behind when I found time to catch up. Alexs post
with the title, New Revenue Stream was one of the newest messages
when I checked. I will admit, I wasnt in the best mood when I read
it. Knowing that this list is publicly monitored, I really did not feel
it was the proper place to discuss hosting pornography and describing how
profitable it could be. I try to be pretty liberal in my moderation
duties, but I felt this one stepped over the line. Several of you feel I
was in error. Possibly.



I have received a few complaints about my decision. This
decision to moderate in no way harbored ill thoughts towards Alex
Huppenthal. I would have responded the same way on that thread for any
poster. I am disappointed he took my action so deeply to heart. Normally,
I would not let a few complaints bother me, but in this case I am choosing to
respond. While I stand by my decision that this was not proper content
for this list, I will allow the thread to continue if the members feel it is
important. If you feel I was in error, feel free to contact me offlist. 





Respectfully,





Rick
Harnish

President

OnlyInternet
Broadband  Wireless, Inc.

260-827-2482
Office

260-307-4000
Cell

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VoIP

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