[WISPA] Re: [Fwd: TV White Space]
Thanks Frannie, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: TV White Space] Hey Marlon and John, Well, there's lots going on. In the House, Inslee and Blackburn have introduced their bill, the American Broadband for Communities Act: http://www.freepress.net/congress/billinfo.php?id=172 In the Senate, we have the two bills S. 2327 and S. 2332, and now Senator Stevens has included unlicensed spectrum in his new massive telecom bill. It's called the Communications, Consumers' Choice, and Broadband Deployment Act of 2006. It would require the FCC, within 270 days of passage, to finish the pending white spaces proceeding. It says that within 270 days, “a certified unlicensed device may use eligible broadcast television frequencies in a manner that protects licensees from harmful interference.” It also, as I understand, would extend USF to broadband though I don't yet have an analysis of this section. Much of USF implementation would be dealt with at the FCC. USF is not included in the big House telecom bill: http://www.freepress.net/congress/billinfo.php?id=169. The question now is what happens with these two massive telecom bills and the separate unlicensed bill in the House. I'll give you more information when I have it available, but please continue to ask if you have any questions. Best, Frannie Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi Frannie, Any idea where this issue stands at this time? How about USF? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services 42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: TV White Space] Hi, No problem here. The impression below is false. There was even a staff briefing on Friday in the Senate on white space use for unlicensed. I know a number of people who work in the Senate and who did the briefing, Ben being one of them, and this was not even discussed. It's not going around on the House side either. The discussion is all about broadband access. Unlicensed vs. licensed has been discussed, but there's no move to change it to licensed use. So it's okay. WISPA should do a House and Senate call-in very soon though to promote the bills in the Senate and the proposed bill by Inslee and Blackburn in the House. I'll help in whatever way I can. Best, F At 10:40 AM -0500 4/15/06, John Scrivner wrote: Hi Frannie. As you can see below we have a problem. Can you fill me in on whatever you know about who, what, how this effort is being done to kill our chances at the whitespaces? We had a significant presence to help during Katrina and used a great deal of unlicensed frequencies to help restore communications. I think we need to drive home the point that if WISPs and others have this spectrum available we will implement it and have it ready when disaster hits. Unlicensed deployed for broadband delivery can help make disaster communications infrastructure ready to use and already deployed. We should be able to dedicate a large part of the available time on the network to first responder traffic only which in essence gives them a chunk of the spectrum without having to dedicate the frequencies to this and without losing its usability for broadband to the people. Why leave large swaths of spectrum dormant only to be used during an emergency when the same spectrum can easily and effectively serve both interests? Let me know your thoughts. Thank you, Scriv PS. I want to put together a Call to Action via email and on the website for all WISPs regarding the current white spaces bills once they leave committee. Please let me know how we can best help. Mike said: Hi guys Giving you guys a heads up here as I can imagine you would be very disappointed if the chatter I'm hearing comes true. As you know I'm on that FCC panel for Katrina Communications failures. During many of the discussions and research there is a lot of chatter going on all over D.C. about using the TV white spaces (or at least a large chunk of them) for Emergency Response ONLY(much the same as 4.9GHz). I know you guys are working hard on trying to get the TV space for the License Exempt WISPs, but the current chatter could have a
Re: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: TV White Space]
Marlon, Cool. This sounds like a step in the right direction. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Thanks Frannie, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: TV White Space] Hey Marlon and John, Well, there's lots going on. In the House, Inslee and Blackburn have introduced their bill, the American Broadband for Communities Act: http://www.freepress.net/congress/billinfo.php?id=172 In the Senate, we have the two bills S. 2327 and S. 2332, and now Senator Stevens has included unlicensed spectrum in his new massive telecom bill. It's called the Communications, Consumers' Choice, and Broadband Deployment Act of 2006. It would require the FCC, within 270 days of passage, to finish the pending white spaces proceeding. It says that within 270 days, “a certified unlicensed device may use eligible broadcast television frequencies in a manner that protects licensees from harmful interference.” It also, as I understand, would extend USF to broadband though I don't yet have an analysis of this section. Much of USF implementation would be dealt with at the FCC. USF is not included in the big House telecom bill: http://www.freepress.net/congress/billinfo.php?id=169. The question now is what happens with these two massive telecom bills and the separate unlicensed bill in the House. I'll give you more information when I have it available, but please continue to ask if you have any questions. Best, Frannie --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer
EC carries a nice little unit from Anritsu (sp?). Portable, battery operated, easy to use. You'll need a converter to get the 2.4 gig version to work for 5.8 gig but that's not a big deal. Perfect for a wisp. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Can someone recommend a fairly simple spectrum analyzer that will do 2.4 and 5.8. I need something that is portable and not to complicated to use. Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: TV White Space]
Maybe. I've not read the bills. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: [Fwd: TV White Space] Marlon, Cool. This sounds like a step in the right direction. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Thanks Frannie, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Fwd: TV White Space] Hey Marlon and John, Well, there's lots going on. In the House, Inslee and Blackburn have introduced their bill, the American Broadband for Communities Act: http://www.freepress.net/congress/billinfo.php?id=172 In the Senate, we have the two bills S. 2327 and S. 2332, and now Senator Stevens has included unlicensed spectrum in his new massive telecom bill. It's called the Communications, Consumers' Choice, and Broadband Deployment Act of 2006. It would require the FCC, within 270 days of passage, to finish the pending white spaces proceeding. It says that within 270 days, “a certified unlicensed device may use eligible broadcast television frequencies in a manner that protects licensees from harmful interference.” It also, as I understand, would extend USF to broadband though I don't yet have an analysis of this section. Much of USF implementation would be dealt with at the FCC. USF is not included in the big House telecom bill: http://www.freepress.net/congress/billinfo.php?id=169. The question now is what happens with these two massive telecom bills and the separate unlicensed bill in the House. I'll give you more information when I have it available, but please continue to ask if you have any questions. Best, Frannie --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Weird problem - 20 seconds latency and other oddness
Okay, Scriv and I are stumped on this one. Over the last couple of weeks, we've started seeing some very odd oddness on a few of our 2.4GHz POPs. Not all, just some. Here's what appears to be happening: A couple times a day, usually during business hours, something somewhere generates a massive amount of noise. Connections which report an RF noise of -90 start showing noise levels of -60 (or worse in some cases), as reported by our StarOS access point. If it really is RF noise, it's very broad, as it's simultaneously hitting five or six POPs, some several miles away, but all at the same time. The towers are all running StarOS on Mikrotik RouterBoard hardware, with a mix of Orinoco and Prism cards, some with amps, some not. Some have sectored antennas (180 degrees), some have omnis. Between them, the towers cover just about the entire 2.4 spectrum (obviously, one channel per access point, but we're using at least channels 1, 4, 6, 8, and 11). Those towers are basically identical to several other towers that aren't affected. The other really really weird part is the crazy latency. Pings to the APs themselves are reliable, and our backhaul links (5.3 and 5.8 GHz) don't seem to be affected. And pings to our end-customers don't seem to get lost, they just take their sweet time getting there. While the event is happening, I've seen pings that take in excess of twenty seconds to complete their round trip. 64 bytes from 10.232.175.130: icmp_seq=7 ttl=62 time=27239 ms (I think that's my record. In that particular test, there were no packets lost, they just took a very long time to get there.) I've checked or replaced just about everything I can think of in our network that might cause something like this, and frankly, I'm stumped. I don't think it's a network problem (traffic bursts or similar) because of the weird bursts of RF noise. But that'd have to be one helluva burst of noise to do what it's doing - affecting every channel across ten miles at once. I can go into more detail on any part of the network if you like, though I think all the likely-relevant details are covered here. Help! David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Weird problem - 20 seconds latency and other oddness
If this was rf noise, Arent hamm operators allowed in 2.4 with higher power limits? Could this account for the 5- 10 mile affected area? -Michael David E. Smith wrote: Okay, Scriv and I are stumped on this one. Over the last couple of weeks, we've started seeing some very odd oddness on a few of our 2.4GHz POPs. Not all, just some. Here's what appears to be happening: A couple times a day, usually during business hours, something somewhere generates a massive amount of noise. Connections which report an RF noise of -90 start showing noise levels of -60 (or worse in some cases), as reported by our StarOS access point. If it really is RF noise, it's very broad, as it's simultaneously hitting five or six POPs, some several miles away, but all at the same time. The towers are all running StarOS on Mikrotik RouterBoard hardware, with a mix of Orinoco and Prism cards, some with amps, some not. Some have sectored antennas (180 degrees), some have omnis. Between them, the towers cover just about the entire 2.4 spectrum (obviously, one channel per access point, but we're using at least channels 1, 4, 6, 8, and 11). Those towers are basically identical to several other towers that aren't affected. The other really really weird part is the crazy latency. Pings to the APs themselves are reliable, and our backhaul links (5.3 and 5.8 GHz) don't seem to be affected. And pings to our end-customers don't seem to get lost, they just take their sweet time getting there. While the event is happening, I've seen pings that take in excess of twenty seconds to complete their round trip. 64 bytes from 10.232.175.130: icmp_seq=7 ttl=62 time=27239 ms (I think that's my record. In that particular test, there were no packets lost, they just took a very long time to get there.) I've checked or replaced just about everything I can think of in our network that might cause something like this, and frankly, I'm stumped. I don't think it's a network problem (traffic bursts or similar) because of the weird bursts of RF noise. But that'd have to be one helluva burst of noise to do what it's doing - affecting every channel across ten miles at once. I can go into more detail on any part of the network if you like, though I think all the likely-relevant details are covered here. Help! David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadband_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet hot spots, but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer
Marlon, Could you post a URL? what price range is the equipment? Thanks - marshall On 5/8/06, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EC carries a nice little unit from Anritsu (sp?). Portable, battery operated, easy to use. You'll need a converter to get the 2.4 gig version to work for 5.8 gig but that's not a big deal. Perfect for a wisp. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jory Privett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:00 AM Subject: [WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Can someone recommend a fairly simple spectrum analyzer that will do 2.4 and 5.8. I need something that is portable and not to complicated to use. Jory Privett WCCS -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban d_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet hot spots, but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
Hey Johnny Whats the speeds and latency up and down? How much do you get to make on it? Thanks George JohnnyO wrote: We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban d_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet hot spots, but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay. How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the service but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if something goes south. Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield companies love to be catered to. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue Hey Johnny Whats the speeds and latency up and down? How much do you get to make on it? Thanks George JohnnyO wrote: We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb an d_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet hot spots, but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
JohnnyO wrote: but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if something goes south. Good deal you got there Johnny. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
Since the latency is consistant have you tried running any voip over it? Just curious. If so, how is it? I was wondering why the price of gas has been skyrocketing in Louisiana lately. Guess they have to cover their payments to you.LOL Joe Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadban d_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet hot spots, but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
Laura - if you can't beat the oilfield companies - CHARGE THE HELL OUT OF THEM :) It eases the pain a bit. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 9:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue Since the latency is consistant have you tried running any voip over it? Just curious. If so, how is it? I was wondering why the price of gas has been skyrocketing in Louisiana lately. Guess they have to cover their payments to you.LOL Joe Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb an d_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet hot spots, but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
So all the accounts are setup under your name and then you just bill the customer whatever price? Do you know if they have a reseller option or any information about it? Travis Microserv JohnnyO wrote: We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay. How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the "service" but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if something goes south. Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield companies love to be catered to. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue Hey Johnny Whats the speeds and latency up and down? How much do you get to make on it? Thanks George JohnnyO wrote: We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb an d_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue
Title: Message We don't bill the customer for "Internet Service" at all - We give the "access" away to them. WildBlue does have reseller / installer programs. What we charge is for a "response time" to handle their needs in the event something burns up / gets zapped / gets moved, etc. JohnnyO -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis JohnsonSent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:58 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling WildblueSo all the accounts are setup under your name and then you just bill the customer whatever price?Do you know if they have a reseller option or any information about it?TravisMicroservJohnnyO wrote: We're seeing 1.5mbps / 220kbps pretty consistently. We've been able to run VPNs and terminal services over it reliably. Latency is consistent around 500ms-700ms. Much better then DirecWay. How much are we making off of it ? Well - Not much at all from the "service" but we're selling an SLA to the oilfield companies that we service with these systems. Our mark-up is approx 5x-7x what the monthly service costs us but we'll have someone on-site within 6hours if something goes south. Not sure if you could use the same selling point we can, but oilfield companies love to be catered to. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 8:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue Hey Johnny Whats the speeds and latency up and down? How much do you get to make on it? Thanks George JohnnyO wrote: We've installed 9 Wild Blue systems so far here in South Louisiana / Mississippi / Alabama / Texas areas and have had great success with them. WildBlue will be sending up another bird soon to increase capacity and add features. Compared to all the other satellite systems we've dealt with, WildBlue hands down wins. JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ATT reselling Wildblue To fill in on rural gaps, ATT is selling Wildblue satellite internet service under its own brand. [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060508/ap_on_hi_te/at_t_satellite_broadb an d_1] The company already has been trying fixed wireless broadband in Alaska, Georgia and New Jersey. One of the technologies mentioned by ATT as part of the trials is WiMax, which is similar to the Wi-Fi technology that underlies Internet "hot spots," but offers greater range and speed. Posted by NSP Strategist to NSP Strategist http://radinfo.blogspot.com/2006/05/att-reselling-wildblue.html at 5/08/2006 04:40:00 PM -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
