[WISPA] Startup Wants To Offer Free Nationwide Wireless

2006-05-23 Thread Dawn DiPietro
All, I read this article and thought you might be interested. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Startup Wants To Offer Free Nationwide Wireless M2Z Networks says it wants to provide near ubiquitous coverage at speeds of about 384 Kbps for downloads in the 2.1 GHz spectrum band. By David Haskin

Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Jon Langeler
If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per base station/sector deployment... Jon Langeler Michwave Tech. Gino A. Villarini wrote: Gino A. Villarini Hello, The local government holds a license for 700

Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote: If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at companies like IPwireless, Flarion, etc... Typically $50-100K per base station/sector deployment... WaveIP and Airspan both have gear in the 700MHz band. WaveIP is around $1500 for AP

RE: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Brad Larson
Most of these muni projects are basing the 700 Mhz on the public safety band that is not yet available. High speed roaming is the application not broadband. I know the Wimax Forum is at least looking at the band for e which fits the mold. Every public safety entity I have talked with in the last 2

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Charles Wu
Read below and you can decide on whether or not you will be breaking the law w/ a 3650 deployment --- To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Cc: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:32 AM Subject: [equipment-l]

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
It's about dang time they got off the dime on this! Shoot, the rules are already set. Are you hearing anything about the impact of the petitions of reconsideration? thanks Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)

Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
So where is my danged wifi cpe that can keep a list of 36 ap's and is smart enough to switch between them automatically? sheesh I could have sold thousands of these over the 2 years since I've asked for that product! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over Power -- EOP

2006-05-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
http://www.telkonet.com/ Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Rick Smith

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread George Rogato
I understood that the 3650 was not to be used in commercial links. I'm assuming money makes it commercial. I would like to deploy a couple links for non paying situations, cameras for a city park. I'd also like to have the licenseand not be wasting my limited unlicensed spectrum. Do you

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over Power -- EOP

2006-05-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
http://www.wavionnetworks.com/tech/index.html Fact or Fiction? Target pricing? RD stage or Live trials? Seems as if they are taking advantage of the most recent technology advancements not yet utilizedby many. MIMO (Like Pre-N), Beam Forming (Like Vivato),HIGH Power Rules (8extra DB for

[WISPA] Wavion

2006-05-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
http://www.wavionnetworks.com/tech/index.html Fact or Fiction? Target pricing? RD stage or Live trials? Seems as if they are taking advantage of the most recent technology advancements not yet utilized by many. MIMO (Like Pre-N), Beam Forming (Like Vivato), HIGH Power Rules (8 extra DB for

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Patrick Leary
George, I think there is a lot of this sort of thing happening and I think intentions are good, but, no, I do not think this meets the requirement. Patrick -Original Message- From: George Rogato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 12:59 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Wavion

2006-05-23 Thread Jack Unger
Tom, I'll try to answer some of your questions. Q. Fact or Fiction? A. MIMO does offer several significant advantages compared to non-MIMO. The use of beamforming improves signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) in both directions thus increasing range and reliability. Being able to transmit multiple

Re: [WISPA] Wavion

2006-05-23 Thread Tom DeReggi
Jack, Thanks for responding. Q. High Power Rules? A. Not as far as I know. Yes, their gear does qualify for the recent FCC high power rules, allowing it to transmit at 8 db higher. My understanding is their technology takes advanatge of it. Q. Any other questions? A. Fill in questions

Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
Actually, on the Ap Side Airspan is around 5000.00 and 400 or so for the CPE. - Jeff On Tue, 23 May 2006 08:43:29 -0500 (CDT), Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 23 May 2006, Jon Langeler wrote: If your looking for equipment manufacturers, you'll be looking at companies like

Re: [WISPA] 700 mhz Public Safety State License

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
www.airmatrix.com On Tue, 23 May 2006 09:25:51 -0700, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So where is my danged wifi cpe that can keep a list of 36 ap's and is smart enough to switch between them automatically? sheesh I could have sold thousands of these over the

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
sure. On Tue, 23 May 2006 12:58:34 -0700, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I understood that the 3650 was not to be used in commercial links. I'm assuming money makes it commercial. I would like to deploy a couple links for non paying situations, cameras for a city park. I'd also like

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread George Rogato
jeffrey thomas wrote: sure. Hi Jeff, so sure is your answer, and no is Patricks. You got something different than Patrick that says a wisp can set up a link and put it into production 24/7? George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment, WIMAX?

2006-05-23 Thread George Rogato
Will the 3650 be WIMAX'able. I understand that the 3650 is supposed to be contention based and WIMAX is not contention based. Any updates? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
Patrick, It doesnt change the fact that many have launched limited deployments as a test but still charged for the access service, banking on the fact that the FCC has set the band aside for unlicensed anyways, and that the chance of the FCC cracking down on them is very low. Im not saying this

Re: [WISPA] Wavion

2006-05-23 Thread Jack Unger
Tom, Please see my answers inline. jack Tom DeReggi wrote: Jack, Thanks for responding. Q. High Power Rules? A. Not as far as I know. Yes, their gear does qualify for the recent FCC high power rules, allowing it to transmit at 8 db higher. My understanding is their technology takes

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Towerstream anyone ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 6:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Jack Unger
Gino, Is Towerstream doing this - using 3650 to deliver commercial service? jack Gino A. Villarini wrote: Towerstream anyone ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
They currently hold 13 Experimental Licenses for 3.65 - 3.7 and 5.4-5.725 Check them out yourself and make you own conclusions https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/els/reports/GenericSearchResult.cfm?Re questTimeout=500 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Jack Unger
Gino, They may need that many to test the full throughput capabilities. So what are the details of what they are doing? jack Gino A. Villarini wrote: Do you really think towerstream need 150 field units or cpes to test a single base station? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
They don't even have 150 customers in some markets! Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 9:43 PM

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
Jack, The same would probably apply to the hundreds of WISP's who operate systems that break the part-15 rules regarding power output. While it is illegal, I currently am unaware of any operators who have recieved fines or anything of the sort for such behavior but it happens. Do I encourage

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
Wow, I think I heard a bell ring somewhere. - Jeff On Tue, 23 May 2006 20:58:32 -0400, Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Towerstream anyone ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message-

RE: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread jeffrey thomas
In the larger scale of things- when you compare this to a carrier deployment which would deliver thousands of CPE's service, this is a test. I know of one company that has recieved 28 STA's for 14 markets, for over 2000 CPE. - Jeff On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:33:33 -0400, Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] 3650 equipment

2006-05-23 Thread Jack Unger
Jeffrey, I agree that WISPs should not exceed the 4-watt access point power limit. I think you're correct that out of the 5000 or so WISPs probably 20% exceed the power limit. I'd estimate that of those 20% probably 75% of them don't know how to calculate the power limit and 5% exceed the