RE: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets

2006-08-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Back atcha Tom:

 The only comment I disagree with is

   The proper VLAN aware drivers show 1500 MTU for both the underlying
interface and the VLAN interface but it treats VLAN packets with caution, so as
not to truncate or drop them because of their longer size.

 If that's true, then it isn't a proper VLAN aware driver.  The MTU should
be set correctly and not just show 1500 and use something else.

 My statement was just bringing up that the MTU is for the size of the packet
before VLAN tags were added, and VLAN header bits are added on top of the
existing full size packets. The reason for this is that we guarantee to deliver
1500 MTU to the consumer, and we want the setting to show what the customer
expects to get. If we tag it with VLAN for our own use, we must be able to pass
the higher size packet, and strip the VLAN off before delivering down to the
client on the other end.

The consumer's local Ethernet interface has an MTU of 1500.  Nothing you do on
the WAN side with VLANs, VPNs, etc. will affect that.  They should see 1500 even
if you use a StarOS box that clamps the WAN MTU down.  I don't think that it is
a good thing for interfaces to show an MTU of 1500 on both the primary Ethernet
and VLAN devices. I know that, under Linux, they do that, but it doesn't make it
correct.  :-) It just makes it confusing.  It's one of the reasons that I think
so many people confuse MTU and MSS.

 Opinions on this depend on what the provider is trying to do with the router.
The needs as a customer premise router is different than the needs of a ISP
transport provider router.  The way StarOS does it, to shring the MTU, is
appropriate for Customer premise routers, and it would make sense under that
circumstance for the MTU setting to reflect the new MTU size that the customer
would see.

I guess that would depend on your customer.  :-)  I can't imagine creating that
problem for customers.

 receive 1500 MTU capability.  The problem is not all ethernet devices pass
IPSEC higher MTU. Its why it ended up not being a preferred method for tunneling
across our network or other's network, without compromising delivery of 1500 MTU
to subscribers.  Thus the reason we switched to CIPE tunneling as our standard
tunneling method.  And major reason for selecting Linux based routers.

 I'd like to add, that I believe ImageStream supports CIPE tunneling.  One of
the disadvantages of Mikrotik and StarOS, is that they do NOT support CIPE
tunneling. It was one of the reasons we built our own routers 5 years ago.
(Before MPLS switches allowing larger packets were mainstream and affordable).

Just for the record, ImageStream supports but does not recommend using CIPE as
our first choice.  We highly encourage customers to use OpenVPN.  It is more
secure, far more extensible and feature-rich and has considerable market force
behind it (unlike CIPE).

Regards,

Jeff


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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[WISPA] Cat5 cable

2006-08-02 Thread chris cooper








Im installing some 120 runs of cat 5 in building
shafts. I also need to take this through a roof penetration and 20
across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser
rated cable, but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea
where I can find such a beast?



Thanks

Chris






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Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable

2006-08-02 Thread Bob Moldashel

chris cooper wrote:


Im installing some 120’ runs of cat 5 in building shafts. I also need 
to take this through a roof penetration and 20’ across the roof to 
hook up to my radios. I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, 
but not one that will serve both needs. Anybody have any idea where I 
can find such a beast?


Thanks

Chris



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Chris,

In most areas it must be plenum if it is in a common shaftway between 
floors without firestops. What you will probably need to do is 
transition from plenum to outdoor where it leaves the building. I'm sure 
that's not what you had in mind but if you are under code it may be your 
cheapest way. Just transition at a 66 block that is CAT5 rated.


Otherwise, the plenum cable directly to the equipment outside will last 
you several years without issue. You could also install it inside pvc 
conduit on sleepers off the roof surface to extend life.


Good Luck,

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Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable

2006-08-02 Thread Mark Nash



No but you could put the 20' in 
conduit.
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StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 
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  cooper 
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  Subject: [WISPA] Cat5 cable
  
  
  Im installing some 120’ runs of 
  cat 5 in building shafts. I also need to take this through a roof 
  penetration and 20’ across the roof to hook up to my radios. I can find 
  exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one that will serve both 
  needs. Anybody have any idea where I can find such a 
  beast?
  
  Thanks
  Chris
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Cat5 cable

2006-08-02 Thread Paul Pescitelli

You will probably want to use plenum for the entire run.

see http://www.phonicear.com/learnplenum.asp

regards,
Paul
www.opnehsmm.org

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Im installing some 120' runs of cat 5 in building shafts.  I also need to
take this through a roof penetration and 20' across the roof to hook up to
my radios.  I can find exterior cable and riser rated cable, but not one
that will serve both needs.  Anybody have any idea where I can find such a
beast?



Thanks

Chris
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[WISPA] SpanAssassin

2006-08-02 Thread Scott Reed




I am looking for a easy, step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server.  Google has not provided anything that gets me there.  Anyone have a link to a good setup guide?

Scott Reed 


Owner 


NewWays 


Wireless Networking 


Network Design, Installation and Administration 


www.nwwnet.net 








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Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets

2006-08-02 Thread Tom DeReggi

I'm not sure what you are asking about, MPLS, or Before MPLS.

(Before MPLS switches allowing larger packets were mainstream and
affordable)

Many current Layer 2 Switches support MPLS. Example is newer CISCO switches, 
since Cisico developed MPLS. Any MPLS enabled switch supports the larger 
packets because MPLS uses larger packets.  I do not know exact model numbers 
off top of head of all manufacturers that use MPLS but there are a lot, that 
jumped on the MPLS bandwagon, as we don't use third party routers yet, we 
use our own based on Linux.  Some of the Cisco routers that were cost 
prohibited 5 years ago, are now much lower in cost. This is not jsut with a 
specific line, but pretty much all across the board with all products in the 
networking industry where price drops every year as new faster products come 
out.  6 years ago we decided to use our own Linux Routers, and today many 
people ask us why we chose that option.  The reason is that todays 
technology did not exist 6 years ago at the price it can be had for today. 
For example Mikrotik today is a super feature rich unique product that has 
evolved to do ALMOST anything someone would want to do. (can't do cipe). 
But 6 years ago it was not so special, and our product out featured it in 
many areas, justifying the code writing. Our product did not evolve to that 
level, because we decided to stay in the WISP business not router 
manufacturer business.   But to date, I can partner/peer with any ISP in the 
country, over any type of Layer3 connection in a secure manner, and deliver 
full 1500 MTU between us, because we use Linux routers that support CIPE.
Thats one of the reasons that if I chose a third party Linux Router other 
than ours, it would be IMageStream, that allows CIPE tunnelling, apposed to 
StarOS or Mikrotik.


In case you are not familiar with CIPE... Cipe basically splits packets that 
exceed 1500 byte, and then reassembles them at the end of the tunnel, so 
they are not fragmented.  There is a slight penalty to this in through put, 
but not significant, no more than 5%. The degregation is of course by adding 
an additional header for the second have of a split packet. But that only 
happens when the packet exceeds 1500 bytes. Most Internet packets are not 
full 1500 bytes in size.


The bottom line is todays clearly lack in their ability to handle QOS and 
Bandwidth in a way that is optimal and accurate for many Wireless network 
designs (nested PtMP links, Mesh, Star within star, redundant path, etc). 
Technically todays available routers are once again outdated and incapable 
for today's need because of it.  As a result, we are back in the programming 
room. Not because we want to be, but because there is not a product out 
there to do what needs to be done.  For example, I'd like to see one of the 
major software vendors like ImageStream, Mikrotik, or STAR OS, take over 
maintenance of the OPEN source MPLS and include it on their routers.  One of 
the things we are investigating today is, can off the shelf CISCO type 
routers (any manufacturer) now do what we want, at an affordable cost? We 
are getting close, but so far that has not been proven possible.


We have a situation today, that as a service provider we MUST face the 
reality of finding a better method of managing QOS and bandwdith management. 
The reason is one reason only, VOIP.  In tier 1 markets if you can't 
deliver QOS adequate for VOIP end to end acorss your network, you lose the 
large multi-site deals.  We don't have an issue today because we are 
undersubscribed.  We also have temporary methods that could buy us a year or 
two, such as filling in with more dedicated PTP links to increase 
capacities, where possible. Or we can start adding more Fiber links at more 
cell sites to throw capacity at it. But the problem area is in nested PtMP 
links in common aggregation points.  Smarter allocation of bandwidth is 
required.
There becomes a real cost justification to make smarter software to prevent 
the pre-mature expendatures of a LOT of hardware network wide.


To solve QOS, either there must be a way to provision every customer at 
every hop of every possible path they may take, or label the packet so a 
router knows how to handle it, and routers need to be aware of every 
available amount of bandwidth on each of its connected paths, or for that 
matter which complete path has the average most available bandwidth, so that 
it can stay delivering the client across that path instead of prematurely 
swapping paths that could cause out of order packets. And what happens if 
the link speeds decrease, due to modulation change or packet loss and UDP 
traffic is being sent? Things like HTB or equivellent have you hard set the 
backbone speed for its bandwdith management decission making.


Many of the MTU problems can be solved with Layer2. But can an ISP always 
get a Layer2 connection from its two points?  For example from DC to 
California?


My prediction 

RE: [WISPA] SpanAssassin

2006-08-02 Thread Eric Rogers








http://www.peregrinehw.com/downloads/



Eric











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006
10:29 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] SpanAssassin





I am looking for a easy,
step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server.
Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link
to a good setup guide? 

Scott Reed 
Owner 
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Wireless Networking 
Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 






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Re: [WISPA] SpanAssassin

2006-08-02 Thread Jeremy Davis

Scott Reed wrote:
I am looking for a easy, step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on 
my Linux sendmail server.  Google has not provided anything that gets 
me there.  Anyone have a link to a good setup guide?
I've always prefered to use amavisd to integrate spamassassin. 
http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/ is the website.  There are a lot of 
howtos in the docs that come with the software.  Also consider upgrading 
to postfix.  If you cant/dont want to, you can integrate spamassassin 
with sendmail via a sendmail milter or amavisd.


Jeremy


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RE: [WISPA] SpanAssassin

2006-08-02 Thread Grant Stufft








http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/



Add Clam-AV if you do not already have AV
on the mail Server.



Grant











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Subject: [WISPA] SpanAssassin





I am looking for a easy,
step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server.
Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link
to a good setup guide? 

Scott Reed 
Owner 
NewWays 
Wireless Networking 
Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 






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Re: [WISPA] frame size and fps - Mikrotik large packets

2006-08-02 Thread Tom DeReggi

Jeff,


know that, under Linux, they do that, but it doesn't make it
correct.  :-) It just makes it confusing.  It's one of the reasons that I 
think

so many people confuse MTU and MSS.


I agree.

Just for the record, ImageStream supports but does not recommend using CIPE 
as
our first choice.  We highly encourage customers to use OpenVPN.  It is 
more
secure, far more extensible and feature-rich and has considerable market 
force

behind it (unlike CIPE).


That statement definately needs further clarification, as we need to define 
which applications you are referring to in that comment.


We use and support OPEN VPN on our routers as well. We use it frequently 
from customer's central office to customer's remote offices. We also were 
considering on using it as the VPN method between our Central Management / 
Monitoring  PCs and our remote distributed Routers in our network redesign. 
For any of those Purposes, specific to a customer or our own use,  CIPE 
would not have been our choice.  I look at CIPE as a good alternative to 
IPSEC. I do not see how Open VPN could be a replacement for CIPE in the 
applications where we feel CIPE is required.


We use CIPE in one broad application.  We need to make a connection between 
Cell Site A and Cell Site B.  And between those two cell sites, the 
interconnecting backhaul (usually third party ethernet fiber provider ) does 
not support passing packets with an MTU higher than 1500 bytes.  In most 
cases, the Fiber provider uses layer3 private IP addresses to route our data 
across their network.   To maintain and property distribute our IP space, we 
need to cross these connections in some method of tunneling.  We can NOT 
chose a method of tunneling that increases the MTU or the Fiber carrier will 
not pass our data across the circuit without forcing packets to be 
permanently fragmented. (some ISPs will drop fragmented packets as well as 
not Customer VPN friendly). We can not chose a tunneling method that shrinks 
the MTU, as then customer's data would not pass our network.  The reason for 
us to tunnel is to maintain IP, not to provide optimal security.  We need to 
select a VPN method that will work with any other VPN that the customer 
might use for their own need for their corporate network.  We need to 
support Any/All VPN within our VPN compatibility.  To the best of my 
knowledge, the only tunneling protocol to be able to handle this in an 
amicable way is CIPE. Because CIPE takes care of spliting the packet to fit 
into 1500 MTU, and reassemble packet on other end, only when needed for 
optimal performance.


To the best of my knowledge, OPEN VPN does not support this application as 
listed above.  If you feel Open VPN can accomplish this, please clarify how.


(On a side note, OPEN VPN is also a technology that supports unique reasons 
to choose Linux routers over name brand applications like Cisco.)


Actually I'm interested in learning/comparing  ANY tunneling protocol that 
can accomplsih the above requirements.  But performance and compatibilty is 
a key factor. When we selected CIPE, we did it because it was able to solve 
the problem in the most efficient manner with the least amount of overhead 
to maintain performance.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WISPA] Chicago tower

2006-08-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Cool.  I thought that might have been your tennis shoe in the pic!  hehehehe

Marlon
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42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:28 AM
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WISPA] Chicago tower



Jay Panozzo is selling this one.  He has tower throughout the Chicago Land
area.  One of his towers is the Monopole at the back side of the Nascar
Track in Joliet, used by several Wisps for backhaul feeds.

Mike

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OY  I pulled a Roger!  g

http://cgi.ebay.com/180-radio-antenna-communication-tower-and-1-8-acres_W0QQ
itemZ270012114121QQihZ017QQcategoryZ15825QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

That help?
Marlon
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Marlon,

I think we need a leeettle bit more information.  There are a lot
of
people and a lot of towers in Chicago.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA



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Anyone know who's this is?

marlon

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[WISPA] SR9's

2006-08-02 Thread George Rogato

Has anyone heard if they started shipping again?

I'm in the market.

Thanks
George

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Re: [WISPA] SR9's

2006-08-02 Thread Blair Davis

So am I  DIBS!

George Rogato wrote:


Has anyone heard if they started shipping again?

I'm in the market.

Thanks
George




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RE: [WISPA] SpanAssassin

2006-08-02 Thread Mac Dearman








I hate to toot anyones horn, but I
do happen to know if you need any help getting all this set up and functioning
like it needs to - - Jeremy can handle it if he has time.





Mac Dearman











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http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/



Add Clam-AV if you do not already have AV
on the mail Server.



Grant











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I am looking for a easy,
step-by-step guide to setup SpamAssassin on my Linux sendmail server.
Google has not provided anything that gets me there. Anyone have a link
to a good setup guide? 

Scott Reed 
Owner 
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Network Design, Installation and Administration 
www.nwwnet.net 






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Re: [WISPA] SR9's

2006-08-02 Thread rabbtux rabbtux

Just got my 3 radios, but I ordered and payed for them the last week of June.
(can't wait to test 'em out later this week :)

On 8/2/06, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Has anyone heard if they started shipping again?

I'm in the market.

Thanks
George

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[WISPA] Wrap 2 power

2006-08-02 Thread chris cooper








We are rolling out some wrap 2 based nodes. The node,
including power will be mounted externally. Has anyone devised a way to
weather harden the AC plug/POE block combo? Ive got an idea for a 2nd
, small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure, but Im
wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this.



Thanks

Chris






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Re: [WISPA] SR9's

2006-08-02 Thread Blair Davis

I ordered mine june 16th or so.  still not here

This is getting annoying.

rabbtux rabbtux wrote:

Just got my 3 radios, but I ordered and payed for them the last week 
of June.

(can't wait to test 'em out later this week :)

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Has anyone heard if they started shipping again?

I'm in the market.

Thanks
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[WISPA] RouterBoard 532A

2006-08-02 Thread Blair Davis

Hi all,

Just got my RouterBoard 532A units.  Thought they had built-in flash 
memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software.  But when I got them, I 
noticed a CF  card socket..


Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake?  I wanted the 
RouterBoard with pre-loaded software.


The RouterBoard 112' s look fine.


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Re: [WISPA] Wrap 2 power

2006-08-02 Thread Blair Davis




WRAP 2? what specs? will it take 48V POE?

chris cooper wrote:

  
  
  
  
  We are rolling out some
wrap 2 based nodes. The node,
including power will be mounted externally. Has anyone devised a way
to
weather harden the AC plug/POE block combo? Ive got an idea for a 2nd
, small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure, but Im
wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this.
  
  Thanks
  Chris
  
  

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RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A

2006-08-02 Thread Paul Hendry
Mikrotik is builtin. CF is for optional stuff like web caching. Boot it up
and plug a console cable in to access.

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Hi all,

Just got my RouterBoard 532A units.  Thought they had built-in flash 
memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software.  But when I got them, I 
noticed a CF  card socket..

Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake?  I wanted the 
RouterBoard with pre-loaded software.

The RouterBoard 112' s look fine.


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Re: [WISPA] Wrap 2 power

2006-08-02 Thread Bob Knight
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If I'm not mistaken, WRAPs are only rated to 18VDC.

Bob


Blair Davis wrote:
 WRAP 2?  what specs?  will it take 48V POE?
 
 chris cooper wrote:

 We are rolling out some wrap 2 based nodes.  The node, including power
 will be mounted externally.  Has anyone devised a way to weather
 harden the AC plug/POE block combo?  Ive got an idea for a 2^nd ,
 small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure,  but Im
 wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this.

  

 Thanks

 Chris

 

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Re: [WISPA] Wrap 2 power

2006-08-02 Thread Blair Davis




I know the old WRAP were 18VDC. And I heard that they stopped making
them.

But, I had never heard of a new WRAP 2

I've moved on to Soekris. And, except for our Tranzeo units, all our
POE is now 48VDC

If the new WRAP is 48VDC, I'd be real interested in it.

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Bob Knight wrote:

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If I'm not mistaken, WRAPs are only rated to 18VDC.

Bob


Blair Davis wrote:
  
  
WRAP 2?  what specs?  will it take 48V POE?

chris cooper wrote:


  We are rolling out some wrap 2 based nodes.  The node, including power
will be mounted externally.  Has anyone devised a way to weather
harden the AC plug/POE block combo?  Ive got an idea for a 2^nd ,
small enclosure that piggy backs on the radio enclosure,  but Im
wondering if someone has come up with a slick way to do this.

 

Thanks

Chris



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RE: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A

2006-08-02 Thread Mac Dearman
Be sure to check your jumpers for the POE and voltage. Depending on where
you bought them as to their settings. If you don't check the POE/voltage
settings and you fry one then you are on your own. If you bought them from
Eje it is probably already set up with POE and 48VDC as well as they will
have a 192.168.10.1 IP on ether 1. If you bought them from anywhere else
then the jumpers are probably set for the on board barrel jack P/S and
unknown/any (11 to 48vdc) voltage as well as no IP set on ether1, but you
can fire up Winbox and log in with 0.0.0.0 IP on the MT box.

CHECK YOUR JUMPERS!

Mac Dearman


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Mikrotik is builtin. CF is for optional stuff like web caching. Boot it up
and plug a console cable in to access.

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Subject: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A

Hi all,

Just got my RouterBoard 532A units.  Thought they had built-in flash 
memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software.  But when I got them, I 
noticed a CF  card socket..

Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake?  I wanted the 
RouterBoard with pre-loaded software.

The RouterBoard 112' s look fine.


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RE: SPAM-LOW: [WISPA] RouterBoard 532A

2006-08-02 Thread Mike Delp
Blair,

Fire it up,  It has internal memory with the MT OS on it.

Mike

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Hi all,

Just got my RouterBoard 532A units.  Thought they had built-in flash 
memory pre-loaded with MikroTik 2.9.+ software.  But when I got them, I 
noticed a CF  card socket..

Anyone know if I orderd the wrong thing by mistake?  I wanted the 
RouterBoard with pre-loaded software.

The RouterBoard 112' s look fine.


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