Re: [WISPA] Sprint seen choosing WiMax technology
Peter, This is no big surprise that the telco's would choose WiMax. It is the only way the CPE prices would ever come down to reasonable pricing because of the volumes they would purchase. At least that was the plan from the start as far as I could tell. We will just have to wait and see though. Just my take on it... Regards, Dawn DiPietro Peter R. wrote: Subject: Sprint seen choosing WiMax technology -WSJ NEW YORK, Aug 8 (Reuters) - Sprint Nextel Corp. (S.N: Quote, Profile, Research) is expected to announce it is choosing the WiMax technology to build a new wireless Internet network in coming years, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday, citing people familiar with the matter. Sprint's decision, which could be announced on Tuesday, would be a big win for backers of the new technology, such as Intel Corp. and Motorola Inc., and a setback for wireless company Qualcomm Inc. , which backs a rival technology, the article said. WiMax can spread a wireless Internet signal over several miles and is a longer-range version of the popular Wi-Fi Internet technology, the paper said. Building a nationwide WiMax network could cost Sprint between $1 billion and $4 billion, the report said, quoting analysts. No one was not immediately available at Sprint to comment on the report. http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx?storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com:20060808:MTFH93669_2006-08-08_04-44-19_N08418925type=comktNewsrpc=44 --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
Travis, do you remember the term 'fuzzy math'? On 8/7/06 10:59 PM, Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses going out of business. Am I missing something? Travis Microserv John Scrivner wrote: This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I have been saying. Scriv *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS * Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. ³Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services,² said Durbin. ³Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that.² Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture found that rural and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. ³We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans are not left behind in the 21st Century¹s digital economy,² Durbin noted. ³Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge.² Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in rural America today, and to find innovative solutions to address those concerns. Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. Projects to be funded through this new program will include feasibility studies, mapping, economic analysis, and other activities done to determine the reasons for the current lack of service, and the scale, scope, and type of broadband services most suitable for the particular unserved area. Reforms USDA Rural Broadband Program: the current USDA broadband loan program provides below-market rate loans and loan guarantees for the construction and improvement of broadband facilities and equipment in rural areas. This program expires in 2007. Durbin¹s bill does three things with regard to the broadband loan program -- extends the life of the program for another five years until 2012; refocuses the program solely on rural areas where it is most needed; and establishes a grant program to be administered by the same USDA office that currently runs the rural broadband loan program. Wireless Broadband Spectrum: requires the
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
Hi, That all sounds great, but we won't all of a sudden need 61,000 new medical transcriptionists every year for 20 years. ;) Those people all had different jobs, or the same job somewhere else... so technically there wasn't a job created, there was a job moved. Travis Microserv Peter R. wrote: In a study of Iowa City, which introduced a muni fiber network in 199? - in comparison to the next city over that was doing better but did not install fiber - housing rates increased in IC tax base went up large biz came to town average per capita went up Court reporters; medical transcriptionists; virtaul assistants; voice over people; architects; programmers - all need broadband. And they would like to live in better America. That's how BB improves the economy. All from BB Properties mag. in 2005. - Peter Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses going out of business. Am I missing something? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RB 532
Can anyone tell me if the following configuration will work? RB532-SR2/SR2+RB502-SR5/SR9 4 slots full. Would the node have enough muscle to power all the cards properly? chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RB 532
Title: Message no ---WiNOG Wireless RoadshowsComing to a City Near Youhttp://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooperSent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:55 AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] RB 532 Can anyone tell me if the following configuration will work? RB532-SR2/SR2+RB502-SR5/SR9 4 slots full. Would the node have enough muscle to power all the cards properly? chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB 532
Not a full output power, but possibly if you manage the power correctly. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:55:01 -0400 Subject: [WISPA] RB 532 Can anyone tell me if the following configuration will work? RB532-SR2/SR2+RB502-SR5/SR9 4 slots full. Would the node have enough muscle to power all the cards properly? chris --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web site update
Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Thanks for the heads up on the link. The signup page is hosted in a different location, so I am forwarding the information to the correct place to get it fixed. This link from the sign-up page is broken: [ snip: really long URL ] Should be better now. (Hey Matt, do you have a copy of the revised logo on a transparent background? Might as well try to keep things vaguely consistent.) David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 2 WRAP boards in 1 mini-box 4A2E
Does anyone know where I can get the correct hex standoffs to stack two WRAP boards in a mini-box 4A2E enclosure? Thanks. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 WRAP boards in 1 mini-box 4A2E
Nope. I'd ask the folks at mini-box.com. But I really like those Mini-Box enclosures .. do they fit anything else? RouterBoards? On 8/8/06, Aubrey Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I can get the correct hex standoffs to stack twoWRAP boards in a mini-box 4A2E enclosure? Thanks.-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] who said wifi only goes 500'?
http://wilac.net/descargas/documentos/EnlaceAguila_Baul_EN.pdf The guy that pulled this off is looking for work in the US.. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
I'm not nearly as impressed with this as you are John. Money to study the issue AND a task force? To study an issue that the senator has already laid out? That the fcc's broadband task force AND spectrum policy force have studied to death? bull. It's an election year scam. Naturally, the devil is always in the details. I'm REALLY against the study crap, it's totally redundant. But the grants and auction reform may be nice. Have to see what they really put together. I had such high hopes for USF reform, but that's not only not gotten better, it's gonna be worse for us. And it looks like the TV band issue is either dead of wrapped up in junk that'll make it worthless too. It always seems to go back to the government supporting the people that live off of it first and those of us that feed it last. Getting cynical in my old age. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas] This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I have been saying. Scriv *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS * Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. “Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services,” said Durbin. “Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that.” Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture – found that rural and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. “We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans are not left behind in the 21st Century’s digital economy,” Durbin noted. “Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge.” Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in rural America today, and to find innovative solutions to address those concerns. Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. Projects to be funded through this new program
Re: [WISPA] This is pretty big - Dick Durbin Bill for Rural High SpeedAccess
Oh yeah, Just what we need. More money for studies of the issue. Like that'll speed up the process. Waste time looking into what's been looked into for half a decade, AND take the money needed to deploy and give it to researchers. sigh Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:39 PM Subject: [WISPA] This is pretty big - Dick Durbin Bill for Rural High SpeedAccess DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] - U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services, said Durbin. Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that. Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture - found that rural and farm households have access to broadband internet at approximately half the level of all U.S. households nationwide. Another respected research organization, the Pew Internet and American Life Project, found similar results. In its 2006 report, Pew found that only 18% of rural adults reported a home broadband connection, compared to 31% of urban adults. All of these studies point to a consistent conclusion: Americans living in urban areas are almost twice as likely to have home broadband access as do their rural counterparts. Durbin said broadband is critical to community and economic development, as it encourages investment, creates jobs, improves productivity, fosters innovation, and increases consumer benefits in every corner of our nation. A recent study found that adoption of current generation broadband would increase the gross domestic product by $179.7 billion, while adding approximately 61,000 jobs per year over the two decades. The study also projected 1.2 million jobs could be created if next generation broadband technology were rapidly deployed. We need to close the digital divide, ensuring that rural Americans are not left behind in the 21st Century's digital economy, Durbin noted. Whether it is through telephone wire, cable, fiber, satellite, wireless or any other medium, we need every existing and future broadband service provider to step up to the national challenge. Durbin said his bill includes four major provisions. Each is designed to focus on identifying obstacles that hinder broadband deployment in rural America today, and to find innovative solutions to address those concerns. Creates Broadband Trust Fund: creates a new federal program specifically targeted at assisting individuals, businesses and co-ops working at the earliest stages to bring broadband to their communities. Eligible entities include nonprofits, academic institutions, local governments and commercial companies that work to identify broadband access needs in unserved areas of the country. Projects to be funded through this new program will include feasibility studies, mapping, economic analysis, and other activities done to determine the reasons for the current lack of service, and the scale, scope, and type of broadband services most suitable for the particular unserved area. Reforms USDA Rural Broadband Program: the current USDA broadband loan program provides below-market rate loans and loan guarantees for the construction and improvement of broadband facilities and equipment in rural areas. This program expires in 2007. Durbin's bill does three things with regard to the broadband loan program -- extends the life of the program for another five years until 2012; refocuses the program solely on rural areas where it is most needed; and establishes a grant program to be administered by the same USDA office that currently runs the rural broadband loan program. Wireless Broadband
Re: [WISPA] RB 532
Title: Message Charles, I agree with your "no". However, what basis are you answering that? So that the inquireer can better plan what is capable. 48V w/.35 amp integrated POE, can deliver 20 watts. 48V w/ .8 amp Custom POE (or direct), can deliver 40watts. And technically the CAT5 cable can handle about 76 PEAK watts with 48V, or 28 peak watts at 18V. I do not believe the SR2/5/9 cards draw over5 watts each (maybe SR9 draws more), which would possibly allow the draw to be within range of supplied power. So the limitation would actually have to be the Mikrotik board itself. Either limited by the Voltage down converter or MPCI slot. Do you happen to know, where the limiting component is? Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB 532 no ---WiNOG Wireless RoadshowsComing to a City Near Youhttp://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooperSent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:55 AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] RB 532 Can anyone tell me if the following configuration will work? RB532-SR2/SR2+RB502-SR5/SR9 4 slots full. Would the node have enough muscle to power all the cards properly? chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speedinternet access in rural areas]
That bill is big news !!! Personally, I think the the government needs to pass legislation that will have a quicker call to action, though. I call it the petition for a grant program. I believe any community that is underserved (no body will come), regardless of wether its rural, suburban or urban, should have equal right to get funds to gain broadband. This include low income projects, or small hole out side of range, where there may not be a financial insentive for large palayers to ever focus on delivering broadband to them. That means ALL AMERICANS deserve broadband, regardless of where they may live. I believe if a community can get a petition by a certain number of people, proving that they could not get broadband at affrodable rates in line with nearby cities, thay community should be able to get a grant, that can go only for payment to a third party service provider (such as E-rate). (service provider being joint applicant). Basically we need to minimze spending money on groups to think about broadband, and start funding groups that are ready to install broadband, and where their are consumers ready to start paying for broadband (monthly fees), but need the subsidy to incourage the initial installation. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speedinternet access in rural areas] In a study of Iowa City, which introduced a muni fiber network in 199? - in comparison to the next city over that was doing better but did not install fiber - housing rates increased in IC tax base went up large biz came to town average per capita went up Court reporters; medical transcriptionists; virtaul assistants; voice over people; architects; programmers - all need broadband. And they would like to live in better America. That's how BB improves the economy. All from BB Properties mag. in 2005. - Peter Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses going out of business. Am I missing something? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage highspeedinternet access in rural areas]
Don't forget the 3rd great lie...I'm from the government and I'm here to help you :-) Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage highspeedinternet access in rural areas] That bill is big news !!! Personally, I think the the government needs to pass legislation that will have a quicker call to action, though. I call it the petition for a grant program. I believe any community that is underserved (no body will come), regardless of wether its rural, suburban or urban, should have equal right to get funds to gain broadband. This include low income projects, or small hole out side of range, where there may not be a financial insentive for large palayers to ever focus on delivering broadband to them. That means ALL AMERICANS deserve broadband, regardless of where they may live. I believe if a community can get a petition by a certain number of people, proving that they could not get broadband at affrodable rates in line with nearby cities, thay community should be able to get a grant, that can go only for payment to a third party service provider (such as E-rate). (service provider being joint applicant). Basically we need to minimze spending money on groups to think about broadband, and start funding groups that are ready to install broadband, and where their are consumers ready to start paying for broadband (monthly fees), but need the subsidy to incourage the initial installation. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speedinternet access in rural areas] In a study of Iowa City, which introduced a muni fiber network in 199? - in comparison to the next city over that was doing better but did not install fiber - housing rates increased in IC tax base went up large biz came to town average per capita went up Court reporters; medical transcriptionists; virtaul assistants; voice over people; architects; programmers - all need broadband. And they would like to live in better America. That's how BB improves the economy. All from BB Properties mag. in 2005. - Peter Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, Can someone explain to me how having broadband (instead of dial-up internet that EVERYONE can get) is going to create 61,000 jobs per year for the next 20 years? If it will create jobs from people doing more online, then it will decrease jobs from the brick and mortar businesses going out of business. Am I missing something? Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] RB 532
Title: Message The RB532 has a maximum power consumption of 14W -Charles ---WiNOG Wireless RoadshowsComing to a City Near Youhttp://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggiSent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:30 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] RB 532 Charles, I agree with your "no". However, what basis are you answering that? So that the inquireer can better plan what is capable. 48V w/.35 amp integrated POE, can deliver 20 watts. 48V w/ .8 amp Custom POE (or direct), can deliver 40watts. And technically the CAT5 cable can handle about 76 PEAK watts with 48V, or 28 peak watts at 18V. I do not believe the SR2/5/9 cards draw over5 watts each (maybe SR9 draws more), which would possibly allow the draw to be within range of supplied power. So the limitation would actually have to be the Mikrotik board itself. Either limited by the Voltage down converter or MPCI slot. Do you happen to know, where the limiting component is? Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB 532 no ---WiNOG Wireless RoadshowsComing to a City Near Youhttp://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooperSent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:55 AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: [WISPA] RB 532 Can anyone tell me if the following configuration will work? RB532-SR2/SR2+RB502-SR5/SR9 4 slots full. Would the node have enough muscle to power all the cards properly? chris -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas]
IMO they need to start giving money to the end users to pay for hookup and installation. Stop paying to expand WISP's networks and give the money where it is needed, if you want a bigger network pay for it out of your own pocket. In IL I doubt you could drive from Chicago to St.Louis and not be able to hook up to a WISP. Give money to the people who need to put up a 45ft tower to get access. Thanks, Chadd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:54 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encouragehighspeedinternet access in rural areas] Don't forget the 3rd great lie...I'm from the government and I'm here to help you :-) Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas]
Replies below: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I'm not nearly as impressed with this as you are John. I never described this with the word impressed. I am never impressed that easily! :-) Money to study the issue AND a task force? To study an issue that the senator has already laid out? That the fcc's broadband task force AND spectrum policy force have studied to death? bull. I think part of this is to help the Connect SI initiative in Durbin's district of which I am a supporting member. It is a group dedicated to analyzing the availability of broadband, developing plans to build more broadband availability, build a common peering facility in the region and ways to use it to positively impact the economy in Southern Illinois. Sadly the WISPs walked out before anyone even had a chance to see what was on the table. This is a good deal for us if people just try. That is too much to ask many WISPs though it seems. I am the only WISP in the group. I am also the only small company who would donate time and money to the effort. If people want to see the government do positive things then they have to be part of the effort. Telling the government to buzz off does not work. It's an election year scam. Nice of you to sum up the hundreds of hours I have committed to state level broadband initiatives as an election year scam. If this goes the way I want then my service area will be color coded by signal availability down to the quarter-section level on the plat book and I will have access to every state and federal program for broadband available. I do not lobby for programs to be created but I do tell the politicians what I need to bring broadband to rural areas when they ask e and a good part of what Durbin is stating has to do with things me and others have asked him to do to help. Naturally, the devil is always in the details. I'm REALLY against the study crap, it's totally redundant. But the grants and auction reform may be nice. Have to see what they really put together. In case you do not remember t has been me for a long time saying that too much money is going to loans and not enough to grants. This is being addressed here unless he drops the ball. I had such high hopes for USF reform, but that's not only not gotten better, it's gonna be worse for us. And it looks like the TV band issue is either dead of wrapped up in junk that'll make it worthless too. What is your source of information on the TV bands? I have not received a single negative message in regard to the TV reform issues. If you want some USF funds then signup and get a SPIN number. Ask your local school to help you. They can set you up in about an hour. You can collect some USF now. Scriv It always seems to go back to the government supporting the people that live off of it first and those of us that feed it last. Getting cynical in my old age. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Frannie Wellings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:50 PM Subject: [WISPA] [Fwd: Durbin introduces bill to encourage high speed internet access in rural areas] This is the US Senator in my district in Illinois. It looks like he has been reading my emails maybe. :-) At least he is getting parts of what I have been saying. Scriv *DURBIN INTRODUCES BILL TO ENCOURAGE HIGH SPEED INTERNET ACCESS IN RURAL AREAS * Friday, August 4, 2006 [WASHINGTON, DC] – U.S Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) says a national policy is needed to accelerate the deployment of broadband internet service to rural areas so that every American can have high-speed internet access no matter where they live. Today, Durbin introduced legislation, the Broadband for Rural America Act of 2006, to encourage the rapid deployment of high-quality, affordable broadband internet service, especially in rural areas. “Broadband is an essential component of our lives, at work and at home. It has become an essential service like water, gas and electricity. Our homes and businesses need affordable access to high speed internet connections, in the same way our homes and businesses need traditional utility services,” said Durbin. “Yet, for too many people living in small communities today, broadband access is still not a reality. When I travel in downstate Illinois, people tell me that they cannot wait to have broadband service, but that there is no service available to them right now. My bill will change that.” Two recent reports -- one issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the other by the U.S. Department of Agriculture – found that
RE: [WISPA] orthogon gemini lite connectorized
Title: Message Hey JohnnyO, Being a big StarOS and Mikrotik user I have always been curious as to how these compare with the likes of Orthogon. I always saw the Gemini more as a product to use in NLOS environments. Have you ever compared Mikrotik on an RB532 with Orthogon in NLOS? Cheers, P. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: 08 August 2006 05:04 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] orthogon gemini lite connectorized Dylan - save your $$ - use Mikrotik 532s - SR5s - You will be AMAZED at the performance you'll see - and save 3k to boot ! We have 2 Orthogon Links deployed and hands down Mikrotik makes me smile more :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dylan Oliver Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 6:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] orthogon gemini lite connectorized Hi WISPA, I really, really, *really* need to get my hands on a connectorized OS Gemini Lite. I've had an order in with Tessco since June 21st and it's been backordered *again* til the 22nd of August. Clear Channel is not happy! So if you're sitting on a connectorized OS Gemini Lite with no plans to use it before September - help a dues-paying member out! Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/410 - Release Date: 05/08/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/413 - Release Date: 08/08/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
