RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics...
Ok, found it in the CLI. I'll give that a try tomorrow and see if we can keep this link passing data. We can't easily use the BreezeConfig as these radios are located in such a way that Telnet is the best method to manage them. I really wasn't impressed with the BreezeConfig GUI anyway...seemed very slow to respond. Thanks again for your input. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... Brad Belton wrote: Is there a way to lock in a modulation rate at the lowest setting...say maybe 6MB in an effort to give the VL a chance in a noisy environment? There is, but I don't remember how to do it from the command line :( With Breezeconfig, click on the Performance tab, set Maximum Modulation Level to whatever, click Apply. Then switch back to the Unit Control tab and click Reset to reboot the SU. BreezeConfig also gives you all sorts of nifty performance statistics under the Site Survey tab to help you find out just what ails your radio. The Per Mod Level Counters sub-tab is especially fun in that regard. David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
We're using the B-only version with StarOS. They work wonderfully. I think I mentioned it already on another list, but once again, I recommend these. -Nick Chad Halsted wrote: Take a look at these… http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwo/rwo-plus-hpg-15a.htm I have ordered a couple to evaluate, but still haven’t had the time to put them up. They are built pretty solid and are a tad bit smaller than the TR-CPE200’s. They were advised to me by another Wisper that uses StarOS, he had good success with them. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jason Hensley *Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:17 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 pack I get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be as financially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- --- | Nick White | | Network Administrator | | Tele-NET Internet | | http://www.tele-net.net | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics...
Hi Brad, A lot of what Dave has said is good info and my reply is a bit redundant. The lights on the bottom of the radio should really only be used for a rough indication of signal level. This is true for most radio products that offer lights for RSL. Once you have achieved association via lights on the bottom it is best to Telnet as Dave suggested and then tune for highest SNR. The lights can help here, but only roughly. If you are looking at continuous link quality display that will give you the fine indications to help you aim and achieve the best connection possible. You may also see the effects of heavy multipath while watcing this in the form of bouncing SNR. This can also be seen in the lights as little light movement. OFDM does a much better job with multipath than a traditional radio, but it does not eliminate MP type problems. Best SNR is only part of the equation. The counters also need to be reviewed and I find the Breezeconfig site survey page the easiest to read. You need to look at retrans vs total as a percentage and also look at drops which are frames rxtx that never successfully made it. You also need to look at the per rate counters, particularly if the area is noisy. The radio will auto modulate from level 8 to level 1 based on noise. The automodulation scheme is pretty decent in the radio but I klike to hard set the max mod rate when noise is present. The radio will always try to mod at the highest level and sometime that level might be close to the SNR threshold and performance may be acceptable to the algorithm but not acceptable to you. If I see the radio counters showing many fails at mod8, fewer at mod 7, and clean at mod 6 I would lock the radio to 6. No sense in allowing it to try to do better than 6 if conditions mostly won't allow it. Channel size (10 or 20Mhz) is another tool available to help find open spectrum to run on. Hope this helps, Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics...
Hello Mike, Certainly the SNR is better than LEDs, but not as important or useful as a RSSI reading. As others here have pointed out it is very possible the SNR could improve by misaligning the link. A misaligned link will only cause you more trouble down the road. I'm hoping Patrick follows through and pushes the Alvarion engineers to provide it. During one of the many calls into Alvarion Support we did look into the modulation counters and we settled on forcing the AU and SU to 6. The AU counters look like this: Modulation Level:| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | SUCCESS :| 1 1 1 1 1 2760796 0 0 | FAILED :| 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | The SU looks like this: Modulation Level:| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | SUCCESS :|25 1 1 110 3604 2139679 0 0 | FAILED :| 0 0 0 72785 0 0 | Average Modulation Level: 6 The SU counters were reset last night and as such do not reflect usage during business hours. I'm sure the interference increases during the day as neighboring radios at the AU side become more active. Are these acceptable results? Alvarion never suggested trying a 10MHz channel and at this point we are willing to try anything before we are forced to remove the VL gear all together. I appreciate your input. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... Hi Brad, A lot of what Dave has said is good info and my reply is a bit redundant. The lights on the bottom of the radio should really only be used for a rough indication of signal level. This is true for most radio products that offer lights for RSL. Once you have achieved association via lights on the bottom it is best to Telnet as Dave suggested and then tune for highest SNR. The lights can help here, but only roughly. If you are looking at continuous link quality display that will give you the fine indications to help you aim and achieve the best connection possible. You may also see the effects of heavy multipath while watcing this in the form of bouncing SNR. This can also be seen in the lights as little light movement. OFDM does a much better job with multipath than a traditional radio, but it does not eliminate MP type problems. Best SNR is only part of the equation. The counters also need to be reviewed and I find the Breezeconfig site survey page the easiest to read. You need to look at retrans vs total as a percentage and also look at drops which are frames rxtx that never successfully made it. You also need to look at the per rate counters, particularly if the area is noisy. The radio will auto modulate from level 8 to level 1 based on noise. The automodulation scheme is pretty decent in the radio but I klike to hard set the max mod rate when noise is present. The radio will always try to mod at the highest level and sometime that level might be close to the SNR threshold and performance may be acceptable to the algorithm but not acceptable to you. If I see the radio counters showing many fails at mod8, fewer at mod 7, and clean at mod 6 I would lock the radio to 6. No sense in allowing it to try to do better than 6 if conditions mostly won't allow it. Channel size (10 or 20Mhz) is another tool available to help find open spectrum to run on. Hope this helps, Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I would echo that. Deliberant is great to work with and the radios work very well. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Anthony Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I would take a look at Deliberant. www.deliberant.com They ship and handle rma's promptly, along with great customer support. Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 pack I get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be as financially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Velocity Wireless Anthony Morin 208 East Elm Street Ambia, IN 47917 Office: (765) 869-5173 Cell: (765) 884-6009 Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business. --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics...
Ok, as expected neighboring radios on the AU side are becoming more active and the link is really beginning to suffer now. Here are the SU counters as of this morning: Modulation Level:| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | SUCCESS :|545682 1278 10264 2283703 0 0 | FAILED :|182439 185 583 879 0 0 | Average Modulation Level: 6 As a ratio it appears Mod Level 6 is doing the best, but I don't think that is relevant. How much throughput can be expected if I lock the Mod Level down to 1 and will that improve the VL performance in noisy environments? Ping times across the link are really getting hammered as the client is trying to push data both directions. We are seeing 4ms to 2000ms+ and approaching 10-15% loss. Thanks, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:17 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... Hello Mike, Certainly the SNR is better than LEDs, but not as important or useful as a RSSI reading. As others here have pointed out it is very possible the SNR could improve by misaligning the link. A misaligned link will only cause you more trouble down the road. I'm hoping Patrick follows through and pushes the Alvarion engineers to provide it. During one of the many calls into Alvarion Support we did look into the modulation counters and we settled on forcing the AU and SU to 6. The AU counters look like this: Modulation Level:| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | SUCCESS :| 1 1 1 1 1 2760796 0 0 | FAILED :| 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | The SU looks like this: Modulation Level:| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | SUCCESS :|25 1 1 110 3604 2139679 0 0 | FAILED :| 0 0 0 72785 0 0 | Average Modulation Level: 6 The SU counters were reset last night and as such do not reflect usage during business hours. I'm sure the interference increases during the day as neighboring radios at the AU side become more active. Are these acceptable results? Alvarion never suggested trying a 10MHz channel and at this point we are willing to try anything before we are forced to remove the VL gear all together. I appreciate your input. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... Hi Brad, A lot of what Dave has said is good info and my reply is a bit redundant. The lights on the bottom of the radio should really only be used for a rough indication of signal level. This is true for most radio products that offer lights for RSL. Once you have achieved association via lights on the bottom it is best to Telnet as Dave suggested and then tune for highest SNR. The lights can help here, but only roughly. If you are looking at continuous link quality display that will give you the fine indications to help you aim and achieve the best connection possible. You may also see the effects of heavy multipath while watcing this in the form of bouncing SNR. This can also be seen in the lights as little light movement. OFDM does a much better job with multipath than a traditional radio, but it does not eliminate MP type problems. Best SNR is only part of the equation. The counters also need to be reviewed and I find the Breezeconfig site survey page the easiest to read. You need to look at retrans vs total as a percentage and also look at drops which are frames rxtx that never successfully made it. You also need to look at the per rate counters, particularly if the area is noisy. The radio will auto modulate from level 8 to level 1 based on noise. The automodulation scheme is pretty decent in the radio but I klike to hard set the max mod rate when noise is present. The radio will always try to mod at the highest level and sometime that level might be close to the SNR threshold and performance may be acceptable to the algorithm but not acceptable to you. If I see the radio counters showing many fails at mod8, fewer at mod 7, and clean at mod 6 I would lock the radio to 6. No sense in allowing it to try to do better than 6 if conditions mostly won't allow it. Channel size (10 or 20Mhz) is another tool available to help find open spectrum to run on. Hope this helps, Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
RE: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal
I dunno man, I called Global one day, and said I want space on that tower, I'll pay you $250 a month for two antennas and they got me a lease for $400... executed it and installed equipment within 2 weeks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal If you don't know what it costs, then it means you aren't experienced enough to understand why they don't just give you a cost upfront, or two young a company to be financial secure to do business with, and if you are worried about it, then you probably don;t have the budget to pay for it, in their mind. What ends up happening is its the sales guy, who writes you off, not necessarilly the tower company. Sometimes they won't call you back for MONTHS, until he has nothing else to do that day! The way to get around that, is to start out with the first relationship paying significantly, so you can establish a relationship with someone. Once you have their ear, and made a commitment, you can start negotiating. You should start out by asking someone else in the industry what they are paying for the space, and going in, with that understanding working with them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Justin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 1:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal I can't even get a ballpark price on some of their towers. I would like to know if I am wasting my time (and theirs). I have 3 towers in mind I would like to get on of theirs. Justin -- Life is unfair, but root password Helps --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA - A+ - CCNT - TAT - ACSA - MTIN.NET Wireless - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing AOLIM: j2sw WEB: http://www.mtin.net Phone: 765.762.2851 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics...
The numbers for the AU look decent. The SU numbers are not as good. I might consider moving the SU to mod 5 and leave the AU at 6. 10Mhz channels gives you more flexability to work around noise and can help. The perfect world real thruput of an AU is 35MB on ver 4.0 firmware at 20Mhz, and 1/2 that at 10Mhz. It may be worthwhile to change channels and watch for resutls, ignoring the spectrum analyzer recommendations. You might get lucky that way especially when using 10mhz channels. Mike At 09:16 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote: Hello Mike, Certainly the SNR is better than LEDs, but not as important or useful as a RSSI reading. As others here have pointed out it is very possible the SNR could improve by misaligning the link. A misaligned link will only cause you more trouble down the road. I'm hoping Patrick follows through and pushes the Alvarion engineers to provide it. During one of the many calls into Alvarion Support we did look into the modulation counters and we settled on forcing the AU and SU to 6. The AU counters look like this: Modulation Level:| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | SUCCESS :| 1 1 1 1 1 2760796 0 0 | FAILED :| 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 | The SU looks like this: Modulation Level:| 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 | SUCCESS :|25 1 1 110 3604 2139679 0 0 | FAILED :| 0 0 0 72785 0 0 | Average Modulation Level: 6 The SU counters were reset last night and as such do not reflect usage during business hours. I'm sure the interference increases during the day as neighboring radios at the AU side become more active. Are these acceptable results? Alvarion never suggested trying a 10MHz channel and at this point we are willing to try anything before we are forced to remove the VL gear all together. I appreciate your input. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 6:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... Hi Brad, A lot of what Dave has said is good info and my reply is a bit redundant. The lights on the bottom of the radio should really only be used for a rough indication of signal level. This is true for most radio products that offer lights for RSL. Once you have achieved association via lights on the bottom it is best to Telnet as Dave suggested and then tune for highest SNR. The lights can help here, but only roughly. If you are looking at continuous link quality display that will give you the fine indications to help you aim and achieve the best connection possible. You may also see the effects of heavy multipath while watcing this in the form of bouncing SNR. This can also be seen in the lights as little light movement. OFDM does a much better job with multipath than a traditional radio, but it does not eliminate MP type problems. Best SNR is only part of the equation. The counters also need to be reviewed and I find the Breezeconfig site survey page the easiest to read. You need to look at retrans vs total as a percentage and also look at drops which are frames rxtx that never successfully made it. You also need to look at the per rate counters, particularly if the area is noisy. The radio will auto modulate from level 8 to level 1 based on noise. The automodulation scheme is pretty decent in the radio but I klike to hard set the max mod rate when noise is present. The radio will always try to mod at the highest level and sometime that level might be close to the SNR threshold and performance may be acceptable to the algorithm but not acceptable to you. If I see the radio counters showing many fails at mod8, fewer at mod 7, and clean at mod 6 I would lock the radio to 6. No sense in allowing it to try to do better than 6 if conditions mostly won't allow it. Channel size (10 or 20Mhz) is another tool available to help find open spectrum to run on. Hope this helps, Mike Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Mike Cowan Wireless Connections A Division of ACC 166 Milan Ave Norwalk, OH 44857 419-660-6100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.wirelessconnections.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal
Hi, Did I miss something? You said $250 per month, they came back with $400 per month and you executed the lease? :( Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: I dunno man, I called Global one day, and said "I want space on that tower, I'll pay you $250 a month for two antennas" and they got me a lease for $400... executed it and installed equipment within 2 weeks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal If you don't know what it costs, then it means you aren't experienced enough to understand why they don't just give you a cost upfront, or two young a company to be financial secure to do business with, and if you are worried about it, then you probably don;t have the budget to pay for it, in their mind. What ends up happening is its the sales guy, who writes you off, not necessarilly the tower company. Sometimes they won't call you back for MONTHS, until he has nothing else to do that day! The way to get around that, is to start out with the first relationship paying significantly, so you can establish a relationship with someone. Once you have their ear, and made a commitment, you can start negotiating. You should start out by asking someone else in the industry what they are paying for the space, and going in, with that understanding working with them. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Justin Wilson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 1:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal I can't even get a ballpark price on some of their towers. I would like to know if I am wasting my time (and theirs). I have 3 towers in mind I would like to get on of theirs. Justin -- "Life is unfair, but root password Helps" --- Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CCNA - A+ - CCNT - TAT - ACSA - MTIN.NET Wireless - WISP Consulting - Tower Climbing AOLIM: j2sw WEB: http://www.mtin.net Phone: 765.762.2851 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Teletronics and Zcomax both have what you are looking for. personally, I don't like the router/radio combo units. I have yet to see a radio router that's anywhere near as easy to deal with as a linksys. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC)
Yeah I do the same thing. We tell the potential new customer that if the survey goes good we want to install them on the spot do to higher gas prices and cost of sending the guys out there twice. If they only want the survey done and it goes good and they dont let us install it on the spot we tack a 35.00 survey charge on them. Seems to work good for us. Cuts down on time and allows us to do more in a day. Todd Lancaster AlwaysOnLine LLC. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) We handle this a bit differently. We don't do site surveys anymore. We only do installs. We book the appointment etc. I head out to the site and IF I can't figure out a way to get service to them, I leave. They owe nothing. But if I can get them lit up, I have a customer. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) If it deters a tire kicker from wasting our company's resources, then I will be very happy. I don't believe it will deter anyone who is seriously wanting our broadband service as they will not be charged a site survey fee unless they decline service following a successful site survey at their location. If I forget, will someone please remind me in a couple months so I can report back whether or not our new site survey policy is successful or not. Sure will be nice if it works like your puppy story. ;-) Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) Its not that I don't understand or agree with your point of view, but I just question wether it will work based on unecessarily detering customers. Its hard enough getting someone willing to try wireless in the first place, and now you are saying that the odds of getting it aren't good enough to to risk your $29. If trying to get their business isn't worth $29 to you, They may not even bother to subscribe. On the flip side, if your business is like mine, and you focus on Business and sure things, the lost residential business may not be a bad thing, if it just isn;t financially viable to go after with money at risk. It also could end up working th opposite. You are establishing value for your time. Possibly preventing other from abusing/taking up your time in the future. And when you set a value, people recognize it as more valuable and want it more. It goes back to my puppy story. I put an add for free puppies in the paper, and nobody called. The next week I put an add Puppies only $25, and sold every one of them the first day the paper was out. I'm interested in seeing how it plays out for you over time, charging the survey fee. Let us know as the plan progresses. PS. This is also a factor of wether you are in a underserved or served area. There is more demand in an underserved area. In my urban market, everyone offers everything for free. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced installations (KyWiFi LLC) I think those who decline our service following a successful site survey are just tire kickers. They almost always tell our subcontractor that they will speak to the wife and get back to us or they were merely wanting to see if our service was available in their area. People of this stature waste our time and resources, they are the ones that we need to avoid from the get go in order to optimize our company's efficiency. I do not feel that we should punish ethical customers by charging an inflated installation fee to subsidize our site survey expenses incurred by the tire kickers. We've decided that we are going to require a signed site survey request
[WISPA] Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services
Dan Waggoner, a partner in Davis Wright Tremaine LLP's Seattle office, will speak at the Law Seminars International 11th Annual Conference on Telecommunications Law, April 3-4, 2006, in Seattle, Washington. He will present The Continuing Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services, addressing the business and regulatory aspects of Wi-Fi and Wi-Max services. http://www.telecomlawblog.com/cat-events.html -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] AKWireless.net ? Dee ?
What happened to Dee ? He's offline as of this morning. My hosted barracuda's stranded :~( R -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Agreed on the Linksys router part... We have recommended them since our beginning in 2001, and the only problems we've really had with them is when the Wireless-G v5 routers came out... They had a bug that would not work in our specific situation (routed network, Windows DHCP server). Once that was fixed, I was happy again. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 8:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Teletronics and Zcomax both have what you are looking for. personally, I don't like the router/radio combo units. I have yet to see a radio router that's anywhere near as easy to deal with as a linksys. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] BST Wireless Deployed in 10 cities
BellSouth Expands pre-WiMAX Service to 2 More Markets http://www.convergedigest.com/Wireless/broadbandwirelessarticle.asp?ID=19588 BellSouth announced the expansion of its pre-WiMAX broadband wireless into two new markets by late October -- select parts of Albany, Georgia and Paducah, Kentucky. Additionally, service will be expanded in the New Orleans area to include New Orleans East. With these expansions, BellSouth will offer the service in 10 Southeastern markets, including four markets recently launched in September: North Charleston, S.C.; Melbourne, Fla.; Greenville, Miss.; and Chattanooga, Tenn. BellSouth Wireless Broadband Service offers downstream speeds up to 1.5Mbps using its licensed WCS 2.3GHz spectrum. http://www.bellsouth.net/wirelessbb 05-Oct-06 Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 efax 530-323-7025 http://4isps.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal
uhh, yeah in NJ, you take $400/ month and run. Most tower owners come back and say $4,000 / month take it or leave it J DIFFERENT ball game out here near NYC. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 12:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal Hi, Did I miss something? You said $250 per month, they came back with $400 per month and you executed the lease? :( Travis Microserv Rick Smith wrote: I dunno man, I called Global one day, and said I want space on that tower,I'llpay you $250 a month for two antennas and they got me a lease for $400...executed itand installed equipment within 2 weeks-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OnBehalf Of Tom DeReggiSent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:39 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signalIf you don't know what it costs, then it means you aren't experienced enoughto understand why they don't just give you a cost upfront, or two young acompany to be financial secure to do business with, and if you are worriedabout it, then you probably don;t have the budget to pay for it, in theirmind. What ends up happening is its the sales guy, who writes you off, notnecessarilly the tower company. Sometimes they won't call you back forMONTHS, until he has nothing else to do that day!The way to get around that, is to start out with the first relationshippaying significantly, so you can establish a relationship with someone. Onceyou have their ear, and made a commitment, you can start negotiating. Youshould start out by asking someone else in the industry what they are payingfor the space, and going in, with that understanding working with them.Tom DeReggiRapidDSL Wireless, IncIntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband- Original Message -From: Justin Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: wireless@wispa.orgSent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 1:03 AMSubject: [WISPA] Re: Crown Castle / Global signal I can't even get a ballpark price on some of their towers. I would like toknow if I am wasting my time (and theirs). I have 3 towers in mind I wouldlike to get on of theirs.Justin--Life is unfair, but root password Helps---Justin S. Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]CCNA - A+ - CCNT - TAT - ACSA -MTIN.NET Wireless - WISP Consulting - Tower ClimbingAOLIM: j2swWEB: http://www.mtin.netPhone: 765.762.2851-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics...
- Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... Hello David, Great tip on the 4-4-1. What does the 4-4-2 mean? +++ 4 barrel carb 4 speed tranny dual exhaust Any car guy should know that! grin marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I've had great luck too in the past. RMA lead time is way too long though for me - 2-3 weeks to get one repaired and sent back. I do use the routing features, which could be what is causing the lockups. Not sure. Either way, I've been disappointed lately and need to get more reliable gear. I've had great luck with Tranzeo to this point - I'm not sure what has happened, but something has and as a fairly small provider, I can't afford truck rolls due to faulty gear. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: personally, I don't like the router/radio combo units. I have yet to see a radio router that's anywhere near as easy to deal with as a linksys. Depends upon what one would consider easy. For us, we've never had a better performing radio-router combo as a star anything. Of course I can't use a web page to set it up, but who cares, ssh is just as easy. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics...
Good old Oldsmobile. My dad had a 442, man was it nice. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... - Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Are these good or bad Alvarion VL statistics... Hello David, Great tip on the 4-4-1. What does the 4-4-2 mean? +++ 4 barrel carb 4 speed tranny dual exhaust Any car guy should know that! grin marlon -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
I am having the problems with 6000 5a Tranzeos lately they seem to lockup or now the signal levels have dropped drastically at two locations. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Jason Hensley wrote: I've had great luck too in the past. RMA lead time is way too long though for me - 2-3 weeks to get one repaired and sent back. I do use the routing features, which could be what is causing the lockups. Not sure. Either way, I've been disappointed lately and need to get more reliable gear. I've had great luck with Tranzeo to this point - I'm not sure what has happened, but something has and as a fairly small provider, I can't afford truck rolls due to faulty gear. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/471 - Release Date: 10/10/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative
For bridges I've been having great luck with both the Tranzeo cpe 200s and the Inscape Data radios. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mark Nash - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative I've purchased about 70 of the CPQ's, and I haven't seen the kind of trouble you're having. Had to send 1 back because something was rattling inside of it. Tranzeo had one to me in two days (from Canada), cross-shipped, which I didn't have to ask for. I am not using the routing features,just the bridging. For an inexpensive CPE that can reliably go 20 miles, people are really happy that they are so small. I routinely get the question "That's it? That's all it is?" ...referring to the small size of them (even the 19db antennas). I wish they had a telnet or ssh management interface. That's a minus about them. My customer base is rural/residential/small business, so you can evaluate my comments accordingly. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:16 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo CPE alternative Trying to evaluate all of my options here, and thought I would see what other CPE are out there that are comparable to Tranzeo CPQ units (802.11b, built-in router, etc). Want to stay within that price range, but DON'T want to build a unit myself. Not that I'm not happy with the CPQ's, but I've had a run of bad ones (to the tune of 1 in almost every 10 packI get in here) and just not sure what's going on. I just got word of a price increase on the CPE units also (not the CPQ's though). I'd also like to get something a little smaller in physical size than the Tranzeo's. Not that they are bad, but would be nice if they weren't quite such an eyesore. Again, that's not a huge issue though. Anyway, just thought I'd throw this out. I've considered Canopy, but of course, that's an entire network change. Just not sure if I want to do that, and not sure if it would be asfinancially economical as Tranzeo in the long run. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services
H. I was thinking that I'd like to go hear this. But it seems I'm about 6 months too late! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: [WISPA] Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services Dan Waggoner, a partner in Davis Wright Tremaine LLP's Seattle office, will speak at the Law Seminars International 11th Annual Conference on Telecommunications Law, April 3-4, 2006, in Seattle, Washington. He will present The Continuing Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services, addressing the business and regulatory aspects of Wi-Fi and Wi-Max services. http://www.telecomlawblog.com/cat-events.html -- Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://4isps.com/newsletter.htm -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services
My bad! Sorry, I read 2007. Or I thought I did. Peter Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: H. I was thinking that I'd like to go hear this. But it seems I'm about 6 months too late! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: [WISPA] Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services Dan Waggoner, a partner in Davis Wright Tremaine LLP's Seattle office, will speak at the Law Seminars International 11th Annual Conference on Telecommunications Law, April 3-4, 2006, in Seattle, Washington. He will present The Continuing Evolution of Unlicensed Wireless Services, addressing the business and regulatory aspects of Wi-Fi and Wi-Max services. http://www.telecomlawblog.com/cat-events.html -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
