Council rejects wireless proposal
By Adrian Sanchez/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
COLUMBUS - The City Council rejected Frontier Communications' proposal
to deploy a wireless broadband network in Columbus in a 5-3 Monday night
vote.
Councilmen Joe Jarecke, Ron Bogus and Jim Bulkley voted in favor of the
Where are ya getting that? I may be intrested.. off-list please.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:39 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] sales 101
Dang Travis -
You need to
Smart idea to name the SSID: Your ISP is the Best, but wouldn't Your
ISP + Phone # be better? :)
George Rogato wrote:
Pac wireless has been getting my advertizing budget this past year.
Them and lonnie.
This is a part of my coverage area. not all our essid's have our name
in them. It
Mac... send him up... but realize our network spans 250 miles north to
south and 150 miles east to west... my installers spend an _average_ of
3 hours driving per day. :(
Travis
Microserv
Mac Dearman wrote:
Dang Travis -
You need to let me send one of my installers up there. He can get 84
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IMO, the people that can/and are willing to do this should be the highest
paid folks in your organization. Getting doors shut in your face
(figuratively and literally) on a regular basis is really hard on your
attitude. You can have the greatest product in the world, but if you don't
have
Peter R. wrote:
Smart idea to name the SSID: Your ISP is the Best, but wouldn't Your
ISP + Phone # be better? :)
Guess I left out the part about that one being next to one of the local
telephone guys's house. Otherwise I wouldn't ave been so cocky.
We could add a telephone number, but
I'm glad they recognized there would be a problem giving one person an
exclusive contract to serve the entire city, via city property.
I'm especially glad they got down to the technical details of unlicensed
frequency, in a public way.
Of course it helps when there is a councilman who
Lots of people have stopped using the Lucent radio cards. Some of you
might have extra pigtails around for them that you don't need anymore.
I'm looking for some Lucent MC to N-Female Bulkhead pigtails...
although, I'd take N-Male as well.
If someone has a few they would like to get rid
Wow...impressive! A city counsel that didn't fall for the snake oil
salesman...
Brad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:31 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Council rejects
Sounds like they had some pretty valid reasons to reject the proposal. It
sounded pretty onerous.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run
Hi All,
We're set to meet with the FCC (lots of new staff and a couple of new
commissioners) in Feb. 14,15 or 16. Topics etc. are still being worked
out.
I'm also going to try to get a spot at:
http://www.ftc.gov/opp/workshops/broadband/index.html
I need 5 or 6 people that would like to
Marlon-
I'll be at the FTC hearings. Not sure yet if it will be idle curiosity or if
one of my clients will be paying me. If you want to discuss anything
beforehand, feel free to call. I'd like to get together for lunch or drinks
when you're in town. Did the Chileans ever get in contact?
Im interested. When are you planning to go?
Chris Cooper
Intelliwave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 12:21 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: Principal WISPA Member List
We had a similar problem once, except
It was a month of unfullfilled sales. Property owner denied roof access.
Customer couldn't get line of sight or good signal.
So it was a month of hard sales work, but resulting only in losing lots of
money, discouragement of unfullfilled reward, not a
Better would be... your ISP + a unique number for the site location, to
easilly decern which AP a complaining customer is trying to connect to, and
prevent accidentent associating to the wrong or a worse strength AP. Your
phone number can be looked up, but its hard to tell where someone is
Hi Blair,
I got a bunch that I'll cut you a deal on -- how many do you need?
-Charles
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WiNOG Wireless Roadshows
Coming to a City Near You
http://www.winog.com
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Behalf Of
Mac,
He can get 84 by
himself in a month :-)
Be carefull Mac. Good installers are hard to find. You don't want every WISP
in town sending your staff relocation packages :-)
I need to find one of those guys. I tell you, my techs are really loyal,
good heart people, and do quality work,
They have been exclusive. But that is part of the problem. Some how some
people conclude that an open wholesale network gets around the legallity and
intent the FCC has for unlicensed spectrum.
But I also feel it is anti-American and border line illegal for City
agreements to be exclusive.
I had a wise mentor teach me about sales. It has nothing to do with your
ability to talk, promise, convince or how much money you spend on
advertising. Sales all come down to the ability to prospect and sort out
your target customer. Once you get ONE good customer, the referral business
will keep
Exclusivity is an old issue and was already to supposed to be banned.
Exclusive marketing agreements was fine. Even exclusive frequency was OK, as
you can't can;t sell it twice, or fit 2 gallons of water in a 1 gallon
bucket. But NOT exclusive provider.
Any contract writer knew Exclusive
I can't agree more George.
Ps. I would have voted for you.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject:
The complication in all this muni on a lightpole, is the cell phone
companies. I imagine there will be a day when the wisp meets the cell
phone guys and realizes our limitations.
Brad Larson wrote:
Tom, I don't think asking to be exclusive on light poles is a bad thing.
It's usually done in
I just can't see
several mesh muni projects per city being successful.
Maybe not. But thats not the governemnt's problem. The government only needs
to back and market one of them. I'm not agaisnt that.
Maybe I want to deploy for a diffferent reason than FREE public broadband?
There could be
Brad,
There is a BIG difference. On tower agreements we do it with
non-interference clauses,or we buy up all the finite resources (in some
cases spectrum). Could you image what would happen if we went to a tower
owner and requested to be the ONLY provider to rent space on the tower? It
We have always used part of our company name and the town/tower it's located
on.
Ex ssid: inetsouth.Rayville1 with the 1 denoting sector number with #1
always denoting the Northern most sector - then clockwise with 2 - 3 ..etc
Mac
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We don't have a solid date yet. Still working on that.
Just what's stated below as a range.
Marlon
(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own
Those are great points Forbes.
Let me hit on a couple of points. First, we'll be spending some time
training again. There are a lot of new people at the FCC and I hope to get
them there. They don't know what a WISP is or why we are so important in
the market place, let alone what we
Hi Mark,
I'm glad you'll be at the FTC workshop. What's your take on it? What'll it
really be about? What's the goal?
I'll not be at this FCC meeting. I've got too much to do here and not
enough time or money to do it. I REALLY need to not travel for a year or
two. At least not for
- Original Message -
From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting with wisps
How do we get the anti 477
Hey try this, tell the tower owner that anything from 2.3 to 2.6GHZ can cause
interference and point out that there is very few people there, then he isn't
giving you exclusive so he doesn't jack up the rent and you just kept Clearwire
out.
Oh and one other thing I have studied Clearwire
Forbes,
My apologies if you find this offensive and my honesty may not win me
any fans here, but your advice includes some dishonest assertions and
your letter to your city council is, in my view, libelous regarding
Clearwire, threatening to your officials, and absolutely asserts false
What is Alvarion going to do, when Earthlink wins all the Muni jobs
selecting Motorola gear?
I believe the WISPs with Clue, (the ones selecting Alvarion :-) should have
the opportunity to also try and get a peice of the pie.
The there can only be one is best left for Science Fiction Movies.
I had offered some time ago to help set up a WISPA sponsored and
maintained web mapping server. This server could be tied to a database and have
whatever security is desired to maintain data security. Actual network coverage
footprints for each and every WISP could be possible on these
I have to agree. If one just absolutely feels the need
to gripe about their competition, one must be honest,
and be able to back up what they say.
Many however, will not buy from someone who
badmouths their competition - no matter whether true
or not.
Whatever happened to just being
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