[WISPA] SF WiFi: Mayor looses 1st Full vote on EarthLink Google WiFi initiative, Supervisor Daly asks for $10M for a City owned WiFi solution
Tuesday at the Full Board meeting, after an impassioned speech by Supervisor McGoldrick and Daly requesting a simple continuance on their cosponsored (also Ammiano and Mirkarimi) legislation which asks for serious consideration of Nonprofit or Municipally owned WiFi solutions by the IT Department, the Board of Supervisors (in a vote that is seen as an indication of how the board will vote on the EarthLink WiFi contract) approved on a 6-5 count McGoldrick's request to continue the resolution to March 20th. During the debate, Supervisor Daly, Chair of the Budget and Finance committee, asked the Budget Analyst to prepare a $10M budget supplemental for a City WiFi solution. The EarthLink Google camp in conjunction with DTIS (IT Department) pushed to have the vote today in hopes of shutting considerations down the Municipal/Nonprofits options. Significant backing for alternatives was provided by the independent Budget Analyst's Fiscal Feasibility of Municipal WiFi report which had raised many concerns about the consideration of all options, quality of the digital inclusion coverage of the EarthLink solution, privacy, conflicts of interest, parity of deal compared with what other cities are receiving and the potential for a 17-year defacto Franchise with little Board of Supervisor's governance. With Community Choice Aggregation (Public Power) in the air, the recently released draft municipal fiber study and the continued bad feelings over the extension of the Comcast Franchise, voices concerned about ongoing privatization of city functions and assets have been given a loudspeaker. McGoldrick announced plans to draft additional legislation on this matter and there will be hearings on the basket of Budget supplementals in Daly's Budget and Finance committee. Lastly, the independent Budget Analyst will be preparing a detailed analysis of the EarthLink contract on it's merits before consideration by the full board. Independent Budget Analyst's study for Feasibility of Municipal WiFi - and preliminary analysis of the EarthLink contract (pdf): http://tinyurl.com/2v7bf6 Draft Fiber study (pdf): http://tinyurl.com/yu5wjh EarthLink Contract with San Francisco (pdf): http://tinyurl.com/yosuab Windows Streaming Video of BOS meeting (will be posted by end of day Wednesday), click on item 9: http://tinyurl.com/yru77x Speech excerpts and more details will be sent out Wednesday. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range
We are running the Trango units (fairly successfully) at most of our locations. We have a new client that we turned up about a week ago. This is a new AP and this is the only client on that AP. The distance is literally across the street and we have a fantastic signal. The loopback tests shows a perfect connection with no packet loss at all. The problem… For an unknown reason, this unit is dropping out of registration for 12-25 minutes on an average of once per day. There is nothing common about the time of day that it drops. We have ran surveys before, during, and after this loss of association, and the noise floor and surrounding channels show a peak of a -90 or better. We are running the latest firmware on the AP and the SU. We have replaced the SU with one running a slightly older firmware. We have played with some of the power settings. … and still no luck with this issue. Are their any tricks or best practices for a link this close? Is their a solution that I would not have this problem with. This customer needs a minimum of 5mb up and 5mb down and will be scaling to 10mb in about 2 months. Thanks. _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.triadtelecom.com/www.TriadTelecom.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 attachment: image001.jpg -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Saint Louis Broadband
John, Please add Victoria Proffer's company, Saint Louis Broadband, LLC to the WISPA filing. Her mother is ill and she doesn't have Internet Access to send the email herself. Best of wishes to your mother Victoria, I hope she is up and around soon. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: ooe intro video
I think there are a ton of video standards that work the first time, every time you use them and that this is not one of them. Scriv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: What do you guys think of this Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Donald Gilbert To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Fwd: ooe intro video I messed up with your address and had to forward the first video email click on video strip and if that doesn't link go to media image attachment Thanks Don Gilbert Click on Filmstrip! THIS IS VIDEO MAIL ! Email Changed the Internet... Video Will Change the World! Email has become the fastest growing form of communication. Every day billions of emails are sent, and that's just the beginning. Experts say that the number of emails sent will more than double in the next few years. Some say that it will ultimately grow to as many as 100 billion a day! The problem is that with all that email being sent, it's difficult to make your message stand above the clutter. No doubt you've had your important messages overlooked or even misunderstood. So you may have begun including pictures and images to help convey your meaning and make impact. But that still doesn't solve the problem! Why is this? Perhaps because the true power of a message is derived from visual and auditory cues. Consider these facts: a.. 55% of a message meaning is derived from facial expression; b.. 38% of a message meaning is derived from gestures, body language, etc. It's also important to note when conveying an important message: PEOPLE ONLY REMEMBER: a.. 10% of what they read; b.. 20% of what they hear; c.. 30% of what they see; d.. 50% of what they see and hear together; e.. And 80% of what they see, hear, and do. It is a technology that allows people to bridge the gap of communication by allowing a face to face experience. Streaming media is arguably the most powerful communication tool in the market place today. Communicating by video mail is fast, effective and inexpensive. So what is the solution? People online need fully integrated streaming video products for their communications because Video says it betters. Now everyone can easily avoid miscommunication and to bridge the gap of communication by allowing a face to face experience over the Internet with video email, video instant chat, and even a live webcasting solution. It's not a matter of if you will be using video email, but WHEN! If you do not wish to receive any further emails from me, please respond to this email requesting to be removed from my mailing list. You will be removed as soon as possible Make your digital life simple. Get video today! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
We don't do much Wi-Fi, so I figured I would ask the list. If I wanted to deploy a number of Wi-Fi radios at the same location what kind of setups are available? I am looking for something where I can deploy one physical box that has multiple radios as opposed to a single box per radio. Ideally, it would be something modular where I can have a variable number of radio interfaces by simply adding cards. Does anything like that exist? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: ooe intro video
Didn't really pay much attention to the video format, but Hello World is Amway for the internet. Its a pyramid scheme. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: What do you guys think of this Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Donald Gilbert To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Fwd: ooe intro video I messed up with your address and had to forward the first video email click on video strip and if that doesn't link go to media image attachment Thanks Don Gilbert Click on Filmstrip! THIS IS VIDEO MAIL ! Email Changed the Internet... Video Will Change the World! Email has become the fastest growing form of communication. Every day billions of emails are sent, and that's just the beginning. Experts say that the number of emails sent will more than double in the next few years. Some say that it will ultimately grow to as many as 100 billion a day! The problem is that with all that email being sent, it's difficult to make your message stand above the clutter. No doubt you've had your important messages overlooked or even misunderstood. So you may have begun including pictures and images to help convey your meaning and make impact. But that still doesn't solve the problem! Why is this? Perhaps because the true power of a message is derived from visual and auditory cues. Consider these facts: a.. 55% of a message meaning is derived from facial expression; b.. 38% of a message meaning is derived from gestures, body language, etc. It's also important to note when conveying an important message: PEOPLE ONLY REMEMBER: a.. 10% of what they read; b.. 20% of what they hear; c.. 30% of what they see; d.. 50% of what they see and hear together; e.. And 80% of what they see, hear, and do. It is a technology that allows people to bridge the gap of communication by allowing a face to face experience. Streaming media is arguably the most powerful communication tool in the market place today. Communicating by video mail is fast, effective and inexpensive. So what is the solution? People online need fully integrated streaming video products for their communications because Video says it betters. Now everyone can easily avoid miscommunication and to bridge the gap of communication by allowing a face to face experience over the Internet with video email, video instant chat, and even a live webcasting solution. It's not a matter of if you will be using video email, but WHEN! If you do not wish to receive any further emails from me, please respond to this email requesting to be removed from my mailing list. You will be removed as soon as possible Make your digital life simple. Get video today! a href=http://mail.shwisp.net/spam/dspam.cgi?template=historyuser=tetherowretrain=spamsignatureID=16,45d31ca2122171542430122;!DSPAM:16,45d31ca2122171542430122!/a -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
Matt, I advise using only thoroughly tested hardware. Often when using multiple radios in a single enclosure there will be interference issues that will only become apparent when the radios become heavily loaded and have to deliver high throughput. If you deploy without full throughput testing (either your custom-built product or someone else's product) you may think everything is fine until the throughput load(s) start building up and then you'll find that the box will not deliver the throughput that you expected from the multiple radios. This interference happens because of leakage from card to card. Even though cards are on different frequencies, enough wireless energy can leak across cards to desensitize the receivers, causing packet loss, packet retransmissions, and reduced throughput. I expect you will get several comments from people who will advise you that they have several radios in one box and it's working great. Either they have a good engineering staff that knew how to carefully engineer and design the entire box with excellent RF shielding between the multiple cards or (much more likely) they do not understand the issues of RF leakage, receiver overload, and the consequent throughput reduction and they HAVE NOT TESTED their solution under conditions of heavy loading so they don't realize the shortcomings of their design. In summary, it may be more inconvenient to use separate (well shielded) metal enclosures for different Wi-Fi (or other) radios but using separate enclosures will give you a MUCH HIGHER CHANCE of achieving full throughput from each radio. Throughput is of course what customers pay WISPs to deliver so WISPs are advised to consider the costs of both technician labor and (lost) business reputation when making multiple-radio Wi-Fi hardware decisons. Respectfully, jack Matt Liotta wrote: We don't do much Wi-Fi, so I figured I would ask the list. If I wanted to deploy a number of Wi-Fi radios at the same location what kind of setups are available? I am looking for something where I can deploy one physical box that has multiple radios as opposed to a single box per radio. Ideally, it would be something modular where I can have a variable number of radio interfaces by simply adding cards. Does anything like that exist? -Matt -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the License-Free Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral WISP Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting Newsletters Downloadable from http://ask-wi.com/newsletters.html Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
I thought you were already working with Deliberant on just such an animal. Where are you guys with that? I know they have a dual radio unit capable of 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz in the same box. Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: We don't do much Wi-Fi, so I figured I would ask the list. If I wanted to deploy a number of Wi-Fi radios at the same location what kind of setups are available? I am looking for something where I can deploy one physical box that has multiple radios as opposed to a single box per radio. Ideally, it would be something modular where I can have a variable number of radio interfaces by simply adding cards. Does anything like that exist? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: ooe intro video
Marlon, I saw that a few years ago. Are you sure it didnt get stuck in your spam filter - lol! On 2/14/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you guys think of this Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Donald Gilbert To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Fwd: ooe intro video I messed up with your address and had to forward the first video email click on video strip and if that doesn't link go to media image attachment Thanks Don Gilbert Click on Filmstrip! THIS IS VIDEO MAIL ! Email Changed the Internet... Video Will Change the World! Email has become the fastest growing form of communication. Every day billions of emails are sent, and that's just the beginning. Experts say that the number of emails sent will more than double in the next few years. Some say that it will ultimately grow to as many as 100 billion a day! The problem is that with all that email being sent, it's difficult to make your message stand above the clutter. No doubt you've had your important messages overlooked or even misunderstood. So you may have begun including pictures and images to help convey your meaning and make impact. But that still doesn't solve the problem! Why is this? Perhaps because the true power of a message is derived from visual and auditory cues. Consider these facts: a.. 55% of a message meaning is derived from facial expression; b.. 38% of a message meaning is derived from gestures, body language, etc. It's also important to note when conveying an important message: PEOPLE ONLY REMEMBER: a.. 10% of what they read; b.. 20% of what they hear; c.. 30% of what they see; d.. 50% of what they see and hear together; e.. And 80% of what they see, hear, and do. It is a technology that allows people to bridge the gap of communication by allowing a face to face experience. Streaming media is arguably the most powerful communication tool in the market place today. Communicating by video mail is fast, effective and inexpensive. So what is the solution? People online need fully integrated streaming video products for their communications because Video says it betters. Now everyone can easily avoid miscommunication and to bridge the gap of communication by allowing a face to face experience over the Internet with video email, video instant chat, and even a live webcasting solution. It's not a matter of if you will be using video email, but WHEN! If you do not wish to receive any further emails from me, please respond to this email requesting to be removed from my mailing list. You will be removed as soon as possible Make your digital life simple. Get video today! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Automated Tower Climbs
Hey, someone's done it! A portable tower elevator. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251888,00.html :) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range
Yes, running the beta on the SU and AP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range When you say your running the latest firmware does that mean the beta su fw? I had one doing the same thing and the beta fixed it. On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are running the Trango units (fairly successfully) at most of our locations. We have a new client that we turned up about a week ago. This is a new AP and this is the only client on that AP. The distance is literally across the street and we have a fantastic signal. The loopback tests shows a perfect connection with no packet loss at all. The problem… For an unknown reason, this unit is dropping out of registration for 12-25 minutes on an average of once per day. There is nothing common about the time of day that it drops. We have ran surveys before, during, and after this loss of association, and the noise floor and surrounding channels show a peak of a -90 or better. We are running the latest firmware on the AP and the SU. We have replaced the SU with one running a slightly older firmware. We have played with some of the power settings. … and still no luck with this issue. Are their any tricks or best practices for a link this close? Is their a solution that I would not have this problem with. This customer needs a minimum of 5mb up and 5mb down and will be scaling to 10mb in about 2 months. Thanks. _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.triadtelecom.com/www.TriadTelecom.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Automated Tower Climbs
But, look at all the exercise you would miss! Seriously though, I cant believe this has not been designed before now? On 2/14/07, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, someone's done it! A portable tower elevator. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251888,00.html :) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range
How high is the AP? Maybe your under the signal. Can you install another SU for testing purposes further away? On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, running the beta on the SU and AP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range When you say your running the latest firmware does that mean the beta su fw? I had one doing the same thing and the beta fixed it. On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are running the Trango units (fairly successfully) at most of our locations. We have a new client that we turned up about a week ago. This is a new AP and this is the only client on that AP. The distance is literally across the street and we have a fantastic signal. The loopback tests shows a perfect connection with no packet loss at all. The problem… For an unknown reason, this unit is dropping out of registration for 12-25 minutes on an average of once per day. There is nothing common about the time of day that it drops. We have ran surveys before, during, and after this loss of association, and the noise floor and surrounding channels show a peak of a -90 or better. We are running the latest firmware on the AP and the SU. We have replaced the SU with one running a slightly older firmware. We have played with some of the power settings. … and still no luck with this issue. Are their any tricks or best practices for a link this close? Is their a solution that I would not have this problem with. This customer needs a minimum of 5mb up and 5mb down and will be scaling to 10mb in about 2 months. Thanks. _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.triadtelecom.com/www.TriadTelecom.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WA State WISPS
Anyone? ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote, On 2/13/2007 4:43 PM: Hello all! I am looking at leasing space on the ground or on a tower owned by WA State Department of Natural Resources. When I look at the leasing brochure they list wireless broadband providers and cellular telephone carriers as a you must negotiate rate. So.. do any of you have existing leases? Are you willing to share ballpark figures for leasing space? Thanks! ryan ps: I joined and already posted this to the WA State WISPA list.. --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member in Washington D.C.!
You can certainly call on me. Hopefully I'll get to meet you and others when are in town sometime. John Scrivner wrote: The new WISP operator members are pouring in lately. Momentum is moving straight ahead for WISPA. Thanks to all of you. Martha Huizenga of DC Access, LLC is our newest WISP Principal Member. Please help me welcome Martha and Matt (Another husband and wife team). I am sure we will call on you from time to time to meet with folks in D.C. if you do not mind. I will be there next week myself. Here is a bit of information about them: DC Access was started in 1999 by Matt Wade as a dial-up and web hosting provider. DC Access began providing wireless broadband in 2003 and have steadily grown this part of the business. We still provide nationwide dial-up and web hosting. I joined Matt in 2004, making the business a true husband and wife team. We are located in Washington, DC and provide wireless broadband in the 2.4Ghz band to residents, both single and multi-dwelling buildings and businesses on Capitol Hill. We are glad to have finally joined WISPA and feel that it will be an invaluable source of information. Thanks Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range
The building the SU is on is not much lower. It appears to have good line of site and the signal is a -60 on both sides. Additionally, when the link is up, it's perfect. One thing that I will note is the AP is only a few feet off the roof and about 12 ft from the edge due to the landlords requirements. Even though, it is clear LOS even an inch off the roof - Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range How high is the AP? Maybe your under the signal. Can you install another SU for testing purposes further away? On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, running the beta on the SU and AP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range When you say your running the latest firmware does that mean the beta su fw? I had one doing the same thing and the beta fixed it. On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are running the Trango units (fairly successfully) at most of our locations. We have a new client that we turned up about a week ago. This is a new AP and this is the only client on that AP. The distance is literally across the street and we have a fantastic signal. The loopback tests shows a perfect connection with no packet loss at all. The problem… For an unknown reason, this unit is dropping out of registration for 12-25 minutes on an average of once per day. There is nothing common about the time of day that it drops. We have ran surveys before, during, and after this loss of association, and the noise floor and surrounding channels show a peak of a -90 or better. We are running the latest firmware on the AP and the SU. We have replaced the SU with one running a slightly older firmware. We have played with some of the power settings. … and still no luck with this issue. Are their any tricks or best practices for a link this close? Is their a solution that I would not have this problem with. This customer needs a minimum of 5mb up and 5mb down and will be scaling to 10mb in about 2 months. Thanks. _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.triadtelecom.com/www.TriadTelecom.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik RB and Cisco Switch port sync problems
Mike, I have just confirmed that the 3 GE expansion card for the Migrus uses 3x RTL8169/RTL8110. The built-in FE port is VIA Rhine II. The 3 GE Jetway card appears to use the same chipset (Realtek RTL81108-32) according to *http://tinyurl.com/ysoxjx*. The 3 FE Jetway card uses RTL8100C chipset. Do you know if this is supported by Mikrotik? In any event I question the ability of the expansion card's bus to pass 3 Gbps at wirespeed. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC On 2/10/07, Mike Delp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dylan, If these are like the Jetway Mini-ITX boards with the 3 GE interfaces, MT does not support thet chipset on the GE interfaces. I contacted the MFR and MT and was told maybe next version. The drivers are not in MT for them. http://www.mini-box.com/HYBRID-C7-1-2G?sc=8category=99 and the daughterboard http://www.mini-box.com/VERSA-3-x-Gigabit-LAN-Port-Daughterboard?category=20 Sigh it was an awesome idea, but maybe V3 Stable?? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WA State WISPS
Ryan, The DNR is really flexible on those rates. Where is the tower you Are considering leasing? Btw, My Girlfreind's roomate works for the DNR in Wa state, I can ask her what she would recommend to offer. - Jeff On 2/14/07 1:00 PM, Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone? ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote, On 2/13/2007 4:43 PM: Hello all! I am looking at leasing space on the ground or on a tower owned by WA State Department of Natural Resources. When I look at the leasing brochure they list wireless broadband providers and cellular telephone carriers as a you must negotiate rate. So.. do any of you have existing leases? Are you willing to share ballpark figures for leasing space? Thanks! ryan ps: I joined and already posted this to the WA State WISPA list.. --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] WA State WISPS
We negotiated a contract with DNR and they are sticklers about some pretty weird things. They wanted a web cam on their elk, eagle and bull moose sites, oh and they wanted it for nothing. I said let me use that tower to resell business to DOT for traffic cam and control They said their policy is I can't derive revenue from something on state land. I finally got their legal department to resell but their terms were ridiculous and they still wanted percentages. Finally they said our county government is going to come out here and under the law we feel we have better footing working with other government agencies. The laughable thing is they will likely end up paying a bundle to the county for the service compared to what was going to be basically free/trade with us. Government, sigh. I am a bit curious where you operate from, I didn't know their were other WISPA members besides myself and Marlon in Washington. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] WA State WISPS Anyone? ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote, On 2/13/2007 4:43 PM: Hello all! I am looking at leasing space on the ground or on a tower owned by WA State Department of Natural Resources. When I look at the leasing brochure they list wireless broadband providers and cellular telephone carriers as a you must negotiate rate. So.. do any of you have existing leases? Are you willing to share ballpark figures for leasing space? Thanks! ryan ps: I joined and already posted this to the WA State WISPA list.. --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/687 - Release Date: 2/14/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/687 - Release Date: 2/14/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] yahoo Maps API ?
That would be my post from 1/23/07 Here it is again in case you haven't
found it yet.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
SNIP-
I've had good luck with Yahoo's Maps service. You have to signup to get
an app id. The API is really simple. Here is a modified chunk of code
from my Dept of Health and Human Services/Google Map mashup for showing
licensed daycare centers in a town.
#!/usr/bin/perl
use LWP::UserAgent;
use XML::Simple;
use CGI::Simple;
my $location=107 W 2nd Street, Valentine, NE 69201;
my $q=new CGI::Simple;
my $safe_loc=$q-url_encode($location);
my
$geocode_url=http://api.local.yahoo.com/MapsService/V1/geocode?appid=$APP_IDlocation=$safe;);
my $ua=LWP::UserAgent-new;
my $response=$ua-get($geocode_url);
if ($response-is_error) {
die $response-status_line;
}
my $xml=XMLin($response-content());
print $xml-{'Result'}-{'Latitude'}, $xml-{'Result'}-{'Longitude'}\n;
Rick Smith wrote:
Someone a bit back shared some code with a list, and I can't for the life of
me find where
I put it, developed some on top of it, and came up with something web based
that was
pretty cool.
hehe. I've got like 7 machines here that I could've picked, and it was a
tiny file... doh!
If had something to do with going to the yahoo developer's network, getting
an ID, and
converting address info into Lat/Long.
Thanks
R
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Re: [WISPA] Routers
cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual wan with wireless. Kinda cool. I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non existant... There has to be something out there that works... Thanks for the feedback. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Routers
Trendnet. Hands down. I STILL thank JohnnyO for turning me on to them. VERY reliable. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833156001 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers cdw.com carries the Cisco 851W for $379. John -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2007 08:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Checkpoint has one for under $400 too. I forgot about that one. Dual wan with wireless. Kinda cool. I've not tried one yet, but did see them at ISPCon. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Ross Cornett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers I too have that idea in action, but the port forwarding options are non existant... There has to be something out there that works... Thanks for the feedback. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Routers Ross Cornett wrote: Hey guys, I hope some of you can enlighten me on what is the best line of router out there for home and small business. We have used linksys and netgear and their broadband routers have not held up very well. Anyone have any ideas as to what they are using and what works best? I am tired of replacing these things and explaining to the customer their lack of quality. Your feedback is very welcome. Ross Cornett VP 217 342 6201 ex 7 HofNet Communications, Inc. www.HofNet-Communications.com HofNet-Communications.com One more reason I use a cpe with built in router. I know your pain. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Reseller Program
Does anybody have a Reseller agreement that they use in computer stores to sign up Internet with commission? I'd sure like to look at a boiler plate I could use to modify for our usage. Thanks, Forbes winmail.dat-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Marlon and WISPA
I just wanted to let the list know that Marlon from Odessa, WA came down today, a two and a half hour drive (too foggy for me to fly up and get him) and taught my new installers how to properly do couplings on coax and cat 5 plus helped us move two tower antennas. He did this for considerably less pay then anyone else but wanted to help another WISPA member. Every day I get more value out of belonging to this group, from Form 455 to this amazing generosity, all he asked was that if they have an emergency that taxed his resources could I help back. I'm a retired Fire Chief and it's so refreshing to hear someone in the Private Sector have the same approach as the Fire Service has for loaning each others assets when things get crazy. It's a testimony to the strength of our membership and the friendships that happen because of it. This has reinvigoraged me for this stressful business because when you feel your alone and the only one truly motivated for success then someone comes along that is the same its nice to have someone to talk to who can relate on our level. One note to Marlon, I know you saw me do some things that would make for good fodder on here but be warned I will fire back with my own.. lol! What a great friend and fellow WISP I have found with Marlon, bravo to all of you for doing what so many independent business owners never seem to do, get a long for the common good. Thank you, Marlon! Forbes Mercy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) President - Washington Broadband, Inc. http://www.wabroadband.com Yakima, WA (509) 853-0858 winmail.dat-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
