RE: [WISPA] Marlon and WISPA
Marlon Rocks!!! :-) _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 1:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Marlon and WISPA I just wanted to let the list know that Marlon from Odessa, WA came down today, a two and a half hour drive (too foggy for me to fly up and get him) and taught my new installers how to properly do couplings on coax and cat 5 plus helped us move two tower antennas. He did this for considerably less pay then anyone else but wanted to help another WISPA member. Every day I get more value out of belonging to this group, from Form 455 to this amazing generosity, all he asked was that if they have an emergency that taxed his resources could I help back. I'm a retired Fire Chief and it's so refreshing to hear someone in the Private Sector have the same approach as the Fire Service has for loaning each others assets when things get crazy. It's a testimony to the strength of our membership and the friendships that happen because of it. This has reinvigoraged me for this stressful business because when you feel your alone and the only one truly motivated for success then someone comes along that is the same its nice to have someone to talk to who can relate on our level. One note to Marlon, I know you saw me do some things that would make for good fodder on here but be warned I will fire back with my own.. lol! What a great friend and fellow WISP I have found with Marlon, bravo to all of you for doing what so many independent business owners never seem to do, get a long for the common good. Thank you, Marlon! Forbes Mercy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) President - Washington Broadband, Inc. http://www.wabroadband.com Yakima, WA (509) 853-0858 attachment: winmail.dat-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range
Thank you Rick. I did fire the question to the Trango forum as well. Not many replies as of yet. Jeff over at Slingshot wireless engaged Tino w/ Trango about the issue for us. Jeff thought it might be worth while to change the polarity from horizontal to vertical to see if that helped so we made that change yesterday evening. The site survey now has us running on 5736 V which shoes a peak noise floor of -97 and -91 on the adjacent channels. Looks to be wide open just like the H plain. - Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range I had another one do the same thing. It ended up being EMF from a nearby A/C unit. I noticed it dropped out when the A/C went on. Once I moved the unit far enough away things worked properly. Otherwide, the only other thing I can think of is a power issue. Of course there are other guys on this list who I'm sure can come up with some ideas. Whcih reminds me, did you try Trango's discussin list? On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The building the SU is on is not much lower. It appears to have good line of site and the signal is a -60 on both sides. Additionally, when the link is up, it's perfect. One thing that I will note is the AP is only a few feet off the roof and about 12 ft from the edge due to the landlords requirements. Even though, it is clear LOS even an inch off the roof - Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range How high is the AP? Maybe your under the signal. Can you install another SU for testing purposes further away? On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, running the beta on the SU and AP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range When you say your running the latest firmware does that mean the beta su fw? I had one doing the same thing and the beta fixed it. On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are running the Trango units (fairly successfully) at most of our locations. We have a new client that we turned up about a week ago. This is a new AP and this is the only client on that AP. The distance is literally across the street and we have a fantastic signal. The loopback tests shows a perfect connection with no packet loss at all. The problem… For an unknown reason, this unit is dropping out of registration for 12-25 minutes on an average of once per day. There is nothing common about the time of day that it drops. We have ran surveys before, during, and after this loss of association, and the noise floor and surrounding channels show a peak of a -90 or better. We are running the latest firmware on the AP and the SU. We have replaced the SU with one running a slightly older firmware. We have played with some of the power settings. … and still no luck with this issue. Are their any tricks or best practices for a link this close? Is their a solution that I would not have this problem with. This customer needs a minimum of 5mb up and 5mb down and will be scaling to 10mb in about 2 months. Thanks. _ Don Annas 336.510.3800 x111 336.510.3801 fax HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.triadtelecom.com/www.TriadTelecom.com _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/685 - Release Date: 2/13/2007 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range
We had a similar thing happen to us- our SNR was great, but every so often it would just crash. It was on a flat roof, sled mount that held the radio @ 24 off the roof. After trying everything, we raised the mount up to @ 4ft and it solved the problem. chris On 2/14/07, Don Annas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The building the SU is on is not much lower. It appears to have good line of site and the signal is a -60 on both sides. Additionally, when the link is up, it's perfect. One thing that I will note is the AP is only a few feet off the roof and about 12 ft from the edge due to the landlords requirements. Even though, it is clear LOS even an inch off the roof -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program
OK! Those of you that are not paid members, please delete Mac's email below (hehe) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Reseller Program Forbes, I have one that was drawn up by my attorney. I'm like Scriv in that I will share with any WISPA member, but I ask that it remain exclusively for WSPA members. You will have to change it up to fit your needs J Later, Mac Dearman From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:22 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Reseller Program Does anybody have a Reseller agreement that they use in computer stores to sign up Internet with commission? I'd sure like to look at a boiler plate I could use to modify for our usage. Thanks, Forbes attachment: image001.jpg BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-MS-SIGNATURE:YES N;LANGUAGE=en-us:LeBoeuf;Cliff FN:Cliff LeBoeuf ORG:Computer Sales Services, Inc. TEL;WORK;VOICE:(985) 879-3219 ADR;WORK;PREF:;;1162 Barrow Street;Houma;LA;70360;United States of America LABEL;WORK;PREF;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:1162 Barrow Street=0D=0A= Houma, LA 70360 X-MS-OL-DEFAULT-POSTAL-ADDRESS:2 URL;WORK:www.cssla.com www.triparish.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MS-TEXT;CUSTOM1:Computers - Copiers - Internet PHOTO;TYPE=JPEG;ENCODING=BASE64: /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAYEBQYFBAYGBQYHBwYIChAKCgkJChQODwwQFxQY GBcUFhYaHSUfGhsjHBYWICwgIyYnKSopGR8tMC0oMCUoKSj/2wBDAQcHBwoIChMKChMoGhYa KCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCgoKCj/wAAR CABQAEsDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA AgEDAwIEAwUFBAQAAAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkK FhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3ODk6Q0RFRkdISUpTVFVWV1hZWmNkZWZnaGlqc3R1dnd4eXqDhIWG h4iJipKTlJWWl5iZmqKjpKWmp6ipqrKztLW2t7i5usLDxMXGx8jJytLT1NXW19jZ2uHi4+Tl 5ufo6erx8vP09fb3+Pn6/8QAHwEAAwEBAQEBAQEBAQECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtREA AgECBAQDBAcFBAQAAQJ3AAECAxEEBSExBhJBUQdhcRMiMoEIFEKRobHBCSMzUvAVYnLRChYk NOEl8RcYGRomJygpKjU2Nzg5OkNERUZHSElKU1RVVldYWVpjZGVmZ2hpanN0dXZ3eHl6goOE hYaHiImKkpOUlZaXmJmaoqOkpaanqKmqsrO0tba3uLm6wsPExcbHyMnK0tPU1dbX2Nna4uPk 5ebn6Onq8vP09fb3+Pn6/9oADAMBAAIRAxEAPwD0/U7ybXRqGt6xqFzZ6HaSy29vbW07RLME J+Z8dWOG74xjivKNS+JfhW0vJIU811U9ftRqT4x3MsHwd0xYm2iS8ugw9eDXzb4X0G/8Ta5b aVpMXm3U5wATgKByST2AFU207I56dOM4KUlds97u/jB4Wtxxa3szekUxP65xSwfFbTJ0WWDw v4hkgIz5i5I/Q17F8K/gdoPhGzhnvYVvNU2/PO4IOeenJA4OOPxzWnLolj4y8Sz2qhP+Ef0a cRNaiMgS3abSZC2QWC7ioU5XIJOSFwcz7l+xp/yr7jwu1+Kmn3kZls/CviKeFfvPHlgPyNJF 8X/C7KfNs7+B16xyyMGH5Zr6qkXRNFSKKdrS1EhCr5rBdx/GvL/iN4A8OeP/AB9Y6Y1vCJdK j8++Kq4ZxKD5abgwGPkLHqfu9MnJzPuHsaf8q+48ks/ixpeoFhpnhnX7wL94wktj8iaWP4ue G/NaG507UrOZeClxIVIPvzX1NbaXoXhvT1Hl21pboMb5DgAfjWH8Qvh14e+IHh17W8gj3uhk tbqInMblTtcYIyOc46GjmfcPY0/5V9x5v8M9W8P+PZLu00DVNY0nXrRBIypdttdT/EvOGHqC MjIrvtM+IsNnaC28SYj1eB3iuBCnyZViARk9wAfxr5i+BWg33hH9o220W9OJrdrmEsOkihXA YdeDtzXo/wAQmI8a6wAf+XhqunHn0ZyYuqsKlOK30MX41/8AJH9I/wCv27/9BNbX7GvhJIdD vvEdwgaS6kCQkg8KhZT+uaxfjX/yR/SP+v27/wDQTXqH7JskT/BnS1jZS6Szq4HUHznIB/Ai s5bs66H8OPog/aA+J1v4Q0a4sLWV/wC0nQDauOCcYB5z05P1HrTP2UNVXVvhcZXk8y6S+nFw TgHezbz+e8H8a8B/a2a5T4pX0c8cyQyLDJCWUhZF8pASD3wwIrnvgX8S734e+ICyzGTS7khL m0kY+WQSuXUAgCQAYyc8HGPRGp6j+03ovxBHie4uLGO51Dw5cOkkMdrCZDGwXBVwBnqCc8jk d66j9kXxFea7/wAJSNZleXVIpLfe0gAbYI/LQYAHQR4/U8mvV/CfxH8LeLkiitb2KO4lOEtb sqryH/Z5Ib8CayPHnhiHw5K/jbwxCLTVNPR3uYIV2xXsRADecq4L7Fyy88EUAcP+1BpfjyYw XfhMzXGkPb+VdW8CB5FIJOcY5BB7c8V4bYfF7xH4a8Lx+HGS8geDcPLuBt2E5yMEZxnsfevr Pwt8XPCniFTFLeR2E4wpS7ZVRieOGzj88GqPxn+E+jeOfDd48FnDBrkUTSWtzEqozOqsVRm2 klCTyPx60AfMf7POr3mufHvSL7UZfNndJhnAGB5TccV6J8TJHXx7rYDsB9oPAPsK8x/Znt5r T446RBcxtFNGJ1dGGCpEbAivTPib/wAj9rf/AF8H+QrWjuedmKvBFf41/wDJH9I/6/bv/wBB NZn7Hfju30jXr3wtqUzJHqjLJZlj8iyqG3L7FhjHuuOpFdD8YNG1HUfgdaXmmW7XC2V9O1yi 4ykRD7n69iBwM9c9q+VIJTE+cZHcetZy3Z2UP4cfRH6AfHX4VW3xK0WARzC11azJNtPs3DDE blYZGQQPwP5H5A0b4ReJNW8TXGk2ccU0VtcNbzXkTBo1KnDY6biPb869i+Gn7Sy2djHZ+Mt9 0VYKt0ARIq/7QC4b68H1z1rqdK+MvgTw3qV1c6VrS3Gl6jObmW0eGUTW0sjFpHViCCCTnZwA ckHnFI1PDrX4NePbPxjb2HkTxQwXIeO9WdcAK3EigMSD7dq+wvF3iSOPTNQ0nTbb+1da8kRv aK+xE3jH7yQgheDnHLEdBWXb/G34dT232hPE1sFxkhopFYe2CteUap8efCejeObjV9AU3cN8 VF+pEgMhVAiOpIwpAGMKDkDnsQAeS+Jvgt4803WPsUdtLe2kxXbciVEVsgZyu/Ix098V9s+C ra40jwTpFrqkpee0so45pXOSdiAFj+Wa5PTfjj8O9QtlmXxFDCe8c8Uisv1+XH5E1wHxT/aE 8OHR7yw8NXhu53VoyyIwDggjAJXGPfNAHnfw0MDftTo9qAsckt1JgDGNyyH+RFdH8Tf+R+1v /r4P8hXLfsv6Fqmt/FJfFM8TpZxmYmQ/xuykYHfADda6n4m/8j9rf/Xwf5CtaW55+YfAj2zw Bc2Vn8PJZ9UaNbRJZjJ5mMY3HPWuPsH+FOtRazqB0GyWGwZPNmltYv3hbP3fU8d6g1+C4n+C En2ZXKJeyNMVPKx/OC34ZFcrr99o+peAtPh0O1SKOxZE1MRx7UyxBTPHKnYw9sj1qlTUtfMy li5UoqK6RT23/wCGO08K2Xwq8Si5Fl4f0+OSCMy7JbWIGRRnOzHXGOfqKi834Ypo17fjw7B5 dpP9nMQtotzHGQQPTgj8K5a5vNHvvHwvPCMGyxtbOQ3LbdiqWiKjI46nP5Vyv2Oe4idVmZYZ 4JL5kyMEK5QEj/PWqVKL3MKmOrxXu2e+vfsz1jWT8MNKsdLuZtBtn/tC3S5ijW2j3qjDI3Ds
[WISPA] Canadian Wisps
Please contact me offlist to see if we can have our own chapter under the WISPA Umbrella -- You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Marlon and WISPA
Thanks for the kind words Forbes! How are the customers doing this am? Can you tell yet? I'd really like to know if all of the customers came back online on the system that we pulled the amp from. I'd also like to know (on here would be great) if the other customers can see any difference in their services after our cleanup work on the hill. And don't worry, I won't tell a sole about the forgotten keys, snakes or power tools! Mum's the word! cackle Anyhow, I'm finally up on the hill at Ephrata. The system that died yesterday wouldn't come back up with a power cycle so I had to drive down here far too early in the morn. The SB airpoint pro had to be factory reset and reprogrammed. Working like a champ now. Go figure. Take care and good luck on that tower you're putting on the air in the next day or so! This new one will work a lot better laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Forbes Mercy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:30 PM Subject: [WISPA] Marlon and WISPA I just wanted to let the list know that Marlon from Odessa, WA came down today, a two and a half hour drive (too foggy for me to fly up and get him) and taught my new installers how to properly do couplings on coax and cat 5 plus helped us move two tower antennas. He did this for considerably less pay then anyone else but wanted to help another WISPA member. Every day I get more value out of belonging to this group, from Form 455 to this amazing generosity, all he asked was that if they have an emergency that taxed his resources could I help back. I'm a retired Fire Chief and it's so refreshing to hear someone in the Private Sector have the same approach as the Fire Service has for loaning each others assets when things get crazy. It's a testimony to the strength of our membership and the friendships that happen because of it. This has reinvigoraged me for this stressful business because when you feel your alone and the only one truly motivated for success then someone comes along that is the same its nice to have someone to talk to who can relate on our level. One note to Marlon, I know you saw me do some things that would make for good fodder on here but be warned I will fire back with my own.. lol! What a great friend and fellow WISP I have found with Marlon, bravo to all of you for doing what so many independent business owners never seem to do, get a long for the common good. Thank you, Marlon! Forbes Mercy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) President - Washington Broadband, Inc. http://www.wabroadband.com Yakima, WA (509) 853-0858 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WA State WISPS
Let me think about this. There's a wisp in Idaho that's gone around the bend with dnr. Pace was his last name. Can't remember the first one yet. marlon - Original Message - From: Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] WA State WISPS Anyone? ryan D. Ryan Spott wrote, On 2/13/2007 4:43 PM: Hello all! I am looking at leasing space on the ground or on a tower owned by WA State Department of Natural Resources. When I look at the leasing brochure they list wireless broadband providers and cellular telephone carriers as a you must negotiate rate. So.. do any of you have existing leases? Are you willing to share ballpark figures for leasing space? Thanks! ryan ps: I joined and already posted this to the WA State WISPA list.. --WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
Jack, Of course the throughput on 4 cards is not 4 times the throughput on a single card. The processors cannot handle that at this time. It needs more than a 533 to drive 4 Atheros cards to full throughput and then you have the limitation that most units today are only using 100 mbps Ethernet. The current systems are not perfect but they represent an improvement. We are pretty confident that there will soon be more powerful embedded units that can drive 4 cards to full throughput. As usual we work with the tools we are given. When I said no great issues, I thought the very next sentence qualified that with the requirement that they not use the same channels. I'd have to disagree and say that if they don't link up then they have no appreciable leakage and thus will not interfere to any great extent. Don't forget that Spread Spectrum by its very nature is able to handle some interference and not degrade. The way we look at it is that a single unit with 4 cards is much easier to deploy and the configuration is much easier to setup. Routing is easier and the kernel can pass data between radios rather than going in/out Ethernet ports for a repeater use. Our standard AP deployment is to use X2 cloaking with 10 MHz wide RF to give us 6 channels with no overlap. We use 2 WLM-54G cards for 2.4 GHz and 2 SR9 for 900 MHz on a 4 port unit. It might not be optimum but in our experience it beats the last generation of systems with singles using a switch at the tower base. We get all of that with less than 8 Watts of normal power draw and about 12 to 15 Watts under high load. This means my batteries can last for a very long time and we have 40% of our repeater sites on Solar Power only, with no real requirement to consider commercial power, which is good, because some of the sites cannot get it anyway. There might be better units out there, but any we have looked at are a lot more money and they draw a lot more power. For the intended use these are good enough and in fact exceed our requirements, which means they exceed what the average ISP will need as well. If someone needs absolute maximum on 4 radios at the same time then all they have to do is use multiple units, but for an average set of AP's with residential and light commercial customers there is no need to get that complicated. Lonnie On 2/15/07, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lonnie, Just so I understand your information more completely... What is the definition of no great issues. Does this mean that when all four radios in one box were tested running at full throughput the aggregate throughput was equal to four times the maximum throughput of one radio running in a box all by itself? Also, there is a difference between side-by-side cards that don't link up and side-by-side cards that are interference-free. The leakage level needed for cards to link up is higher than the leakage level where cards will mutually interfere with each other. It's possible for the leakage level to be high enough to interfere and cause throughput reduction but still be below the leakage level that will enable linking up. If simultaneous all-card throughput testing has been done and you're getting full throughput from each card simultaneously then either you've done excellent engineering, grounding, and shielding work OR the cards ARE exceptionally well shielded and there are no motherboard or backplane leakage issues. Thanks, jack Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: Standard Wifi has 3 channels that do not overlap. X4 cloaking has 6 channels that do not overlap and X4 cloaking has 11 channels that do not overlap. We use 4 WLM-54G radios in a WAR4 and have seen no great issues unless two active radios are on the same channel. I am not sure about 6 but I know for sure that 4 works fine. Incidentally the SR9 has almost NO leakage. Even with the cards side by side they will not link up. In order to get anything from them you need a pigtail and an antenna. Lonnie On 2/15/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll create for yourself at inches vs. feet is amazing. If you can keep things 3 feet apart there is much less energy, small small fractions in fact. Alvarion with their FHSS gear can get away with such things because they can always stay enough hopping channels away from near by radios. FHSS has 72 (or is it only 70?) channels to choose from. WiFi has basically 2 these days. Where this one gets hard to explain is that people build such critters, test them in the lap and then say that they work. Life will change dramatically however, once installed into a working system AND with the addition of real customers with real traffic. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:24
RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range
I haven't given much thought to that as these radios are on the roof and pretty well insulated from the inner offices. If the 5.8 phones are causing issues with a link less than 100yrds apart, I need to just start pulling fiber :-) Like you, I have seen that issue with 2.4 systems before. - D -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Barber Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 2:31 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range Have you considered the possibility of a 5.8 GHz cordless phone in the area? I know we have seen this issue in the 2.4 GHz range when someone nearby would get on the cordless handset. Todd Barber Skylink Broadband Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] 970-454-9499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Annas Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Cc: 'Tim McCrickard' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Trango 5850 FOX to 5830 AP at close range OK, changing from H to V polarity didn't seem to work. We just had another drop that lasted about 2 minutes. I just sent one of our engineers to a local distributor about an hour away to buy a Canopy AP and SU. We are out of spare tires with this customer. I'm really disappointed with the luck we have had with the Trango FOX units so far. - Don Syslog: # syslog 0 0:00:00:04.898 [1] [ATTN] batchd started 1 0:00:00:05.235 [1] rcd: start 2 0:00:00:08.595 [1] Init of mod_trango_reg 3 0:00:00:09.303 [1] telnetd is disabled 4 0:00:00:14.865 [1] snmpset chch 8 5 0:00:00:14.876 [1] snmpset ant h 6 0:00:00:14.876 [1] snmpset power 22 7 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset scantable 8 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset httpd switch = 1 9 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset pppoeonly = 0 10 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset bcast = 1 11 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset tcp_ap = 1 12 0:00:00:15.123 [1] snmpset tcp_su = 1 13 0:00:00:17.471 [1] [ATTN] System Settings loaded 14 0:00:00:17.539 [1] rcd: system settings are available 15 0:00:00:17.539 [1] batchd: system settings are available 16 0:00:00:17.539 [1] Success to set rssi vector from flash: 132 -439 132 -439 17 0:00:00:17.539 [1] 48 entries in power table 18 0:00:00:17.550 [1] Operate in legacy mode 19 0:00:00:17.550 [1] batchd: start shelld 20 0:00:00:17.550 [1] telnetport = 23 21 0:00:00:17.584 [1] ch = 8, ant = 1 22 0:00:00:17.584 [1] batchd: rx_fifo_err_thr = 100 23 0:00:00:17.584 [1] batchd: boa 2 24 0:00:00:17.606 [1] batchd: start boa 25 0:00:00:17.617 [1] httpport = 80 26 0:00:00:17.640 [1] ch = 8, ant = 1 27 0:00:00:17.640 [1] Skip update power at 0 MHz. 28 0:00:00:17.640 [1] batchd: boa 1 29 0:00:00:17.651 [1] set_br_param cmd=21 value=1 30 0:00:00:22.719 [1] freq 5736 power 22 pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E 31 0:00:00:50.539 [1] utype = 0 32 0:00:00:50.539 [1] set_br_param cmd=22 value=1 33 0:00:00:50.550 [1] set_br_param cmd=23 value=1 34 0:00:00:50.550 [1] set_br_param cmd=20 value=0 35 0:00:00:54.539 [1] Associated 36 0:06:35:50.134 [1] Disconnected 37 0:07:09:41.696 [1] Associated 38 0:07:11:19.022 [1] Disconnected 39 0:07:12:22.224 [1] Associated 40 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset scantable 41 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset chch 6 42 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset ant h 43 0:07:14:18.067 [1] snmpset power 22 44 0:07:14:18.067 [1] ch = 6, ant = 1 45 0:07:14:19.089 [1] freq 5736 power 22 pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E 46 0:07:14:20.235 [1] freq 5836 power 22 pa 64 7D 7D 8A 98 A3 47 0:07:14:20.235 [1] Disconnected 48 0:07:14:41.853 [1] Associated 49 1:12:49:53.337 [1] Disconnected 50 1:13:13:07.573 [1] Associated 51 1:13:21:52.022 [1] freq 5836 power 19 pa 37 6C 6C 77 84 90 52 1:14:33:07.134 [1] freq 5836 power 15 pa 1 58 58 62 6E 7A 53 2:03:09:55.842 [1] Disconnected 54 2:03:24:39.404 [1] Associated 55 2:03:24:45.730 [1] freq 5836 power 19 pa 37 6C 6C 77 84 90 56 2:03:25:33.775 [1] Disconnected 57 2:03:29:02.101 [1] Associated 58 2:03:30:06.382 [1] snmpset scantable 59 2:03:30:06.393 [1] snmpset chch 1 60 2:03:30:06.393 [1] snmpset ant v 61 2:03:30:06.393 [1] snmpset power 22 62 2:03:30:06.404 [1] ch = 1, ant = 0 63 2:03:30:06.921 [1] freq 5836 power 22 pa 64 7D 7D 8A 98 A3 64 2:03:30:08.539 [1] freq 5736 power 22 pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E 65 2:03:30:08.539 [1] Disconnected 66 2:03:30:42.426 [1] Associated 67 2:03:30:48.764 [1] freq 5736 power 19 pa 22 66 66 72 7F 8B 68 2:03:30:50.000 [1] freq 5736 power 16 pa 1 57 57 62 6E 7A 69 2:03:33:11.157 [1] freq 5736 power 19 pa 22 66 66 72 7F 8B 70 2:03:33:12.292 [1] freq 5736 power 22 pa 44 78 78 83 93 9E 71 2:15:54:42.494 [1] freq 5736 power 18 pa 15 61 61 6D 79 85 72 2:15:54:43.550 [1] freq 5736 power 14 pa -8 4D 4D 58 64 70 73 2:19:59:45.101 [1] Disconnected 74 2:20:02:15.303 [1] Associated Success. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Annas Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:33 AM
[WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list
I've posted my most recent update to my Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list at http://www.bwiavendors.com/2007/02/ bwia_vendors_up_1.html This update lists 85 unique vendors, and while that's a lot, I know there's more. If you could take a look at it and tell me of any vendors that I missed, I would appreciate it. Please reply OFF-LIST; I don't want to clutter the list. Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. Thanks for any help you can offer to make this a better, more complete list. Thanks, Steve --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list
Steve, here are a few off my head that are not there...Freewave, MDS, Lightpointe is with an e on the end, Wave Wireless (formerly Waverider, etc.), ZTE (ZiMAX), Huwaie, Acton Wireless Broadband (AWB), is Cirronet still around?, Qualcomm (with their MediaFLO), Arraycom, Terabeam actually dba's as Proxim. P.S. - thanks for only including legal vendors Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list I've posted my most recent update to my Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list at http://www.bwiavendors.com/2007/02/ bwia_vendors_up_1.html This update lists 85 unique vendors, and while that's a lot, I know there's more. If you could take a look at it and tell me of any vendors that I missed, I would appreciate it. Please reply OFF-LIST; I don't want to clutter the list. Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. Thanks for any help you can offer to make this a better, more complete list. Thanks, Steve --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list
Also...is Optimax still around? That was cool stuff Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list I've posted my most recent update to my Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list at http://www.bwiavendors.com/2007/02/ bwia_vendors_up_1.html This update lists 85 unique vendors, and while that's a lot, I know there's more. If you could take a look at it and tell me of any vendors that I missed, I would appreciate it. Please reply OFF-LIST; I don't want to clutter the list. Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. Thanks for any help you can offer to make this a better, more complete list. Thanks, Steve --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Re: Feb 22
Frannie, I have copied the WISPA list server on this email. Please reply to me and let me know exactly what you would like for me to have these contacts do who are in the districts listed below. I am sure you want to see them express their need for unlicensed use of unused television channel space through the WIN Act of 2007. Can you tell us more specific ways we can help drive home this message? Anyone in a district listed below can contact Frannie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or you may work through me to assist you in getting the word out. Together we can actively change public policy to help us and our potential customers to get access to broadband. Thanks, Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey there, These are the congressional districts and the corresponding Representatives. Do you think you might be able to find any good WISPs in some? Thank you! F California 14th district - Anna Eshoo, CA California 19th - George Radanovich, CA California 23rd - Lois Capps, CA California 32nd - Hilda L. Solis, CA California 36th - Jane Harman, CA California 45th - Mary Bono, CA Florida 6th - Cliff Stearns, FL Georgia 9th - Nathan Deal, GA Illinois 1st - Bobby L. Rush, IL Illinois 14th - Dennis Hastert, IL Illinois 19th - John Shimkus, IL Indiana 9th - Baron P. Hill, IN Massachusetts 7th - Edward J. Markey, MA Michigan 1st - Bart Stupak, MI Michigan 6th - Fred Upton, MI Michigan 15th - John D. Dingell, MI Mississippi 3rd - Charles W. Chip Pickering, MS Nebraska 2nd - Lee Terry, NE New Jersey 6th - Frank Pallone, Jr., NJ New Jersey 7th - Mike Ferguson, NJ New Mexico 1st - Heather Wilson, NM New York 10th - Edolphus Towns, NY New York 13th - Vito Fossella, NY New York 17th - Eliot L. Engel, NY Oregon 2nd - Greg Walden, OR Pennsylvania 14th - Mike Doyle, PA Tennessee 6th - Bart Gordon, TN Texas 6th - Joe Barton, TX Texas 9th - Gene Green, TX Texas 20th - Charles A. Gonzalez, TX Virginia 9th - Rick Boucher, VA Wyoming (all over state) - Barbara Cubin, Wy * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:06 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 I'd also like to talk about where you have people who could contact their member of Congress - we might need to map it out, specifically with the members of the relevant committees. If I sent you a list of districts, do you think you might be able to match it up with good WISPA members? I would sure try. Please send me the districts and I will work to find matches. Thanks, Scriv Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:10 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 My cell number is 618-237-2387. Please send me your number. I will plan on us meeting at 3 pm on the 22nd. Cheers! Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Sounds good. I'll check with Durbin's office and see if his staff has time that afternoon. Let's meet for coffee on the 22nd at 3pm if that works for you. If we have a meeting in the Senate, we could just meet over there. Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 3:14 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 I would like to do that. It would need to be in the afternoon if possible. I have other commitments all morning and until after lunch. If you can arrange for a time for me to meet with them in the afternoon and you and I could be there together that would be great. Let me know. Thanks, Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey there, You're in town on the 22^nd right? Do you have time to a) get a cup of coffee with me and b) meet with Senator Durbin's staff? I can set it up if you let me know. I might be out of town on the 23^rd , so I thought I'd check with you now. Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net http://www.freepress.net/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
I'd think that would be correct. marlon - Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations There shouldn't be any interference from 2.4 to 5.8 though should there, even if the card can handle dual band (CM9s)? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll create for yourself at inches vs. feet is amazing. If you can keep things 3 feet apart there is much less energy, small small fractions in fact. Alvarion with their FHSS gear can get away with such things because they can always stay enough hopping channels away from near by radios. FHSS has 72 (or is it only 70?) channels to choose from. WiFi has basically 2 these days. Where this one gets hard to explain is that people build such critters, test them in the lap and then say that they work. Life will change dramatically however, once installed into a working system AND with the addition of real customers with real traffic. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations I thought you were already working with Deliberant on just such an animal. Where are you guys with that? I know they have a dual radio unit capable of 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz in the same box. Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: We don't do much Wi-Fi, so I figured I would ask the list. If I wanted to deploy a number of Wi-Fi radios at the same location what kind of setups are available? I am looking for something where I can deploy one physical box that has multiple radios as opposed to a single box per radio. Ideally, it would be something modular where I can have a variable number of radio interfaces by simply adding cards. Does anything like that exist? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Feb 22
We are in NM 2, Tom Udall. NM 1 has the Sandoval County-wide wireless initiative (which, IMNSHO, is a money sink of the finest kind: NM political and economic development history repeated in classic form with the usual up-front grandiose claims and goals, award of funds, under-delivery of promises, followed, of course, by the departure of various monetary benefactees when it's become clear the money stream is drying up) and Rio Rancho's wireless system. There are, no doubt, some wired ISP's doing wireless in that area. I will forward your message on to another list that may have some ppl on it, if desired. We'd be interested, of course, in said spectrum. Bob John Scrivner wrote: Frannie, I have copied the WISPA list server on this email. Please reply to me and let me know exactly what you would like for me to have these contacts do who are in the districts listed below. I am sure you want to see them express their need for unlicensed use of unused television channel space through the WIN Act of 2007. Can you tell us more specific ways we can help drive home this message? Anyone in a district listed below can contact Frannie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or you may work through me to assist you in getting the word out. Together we can actively change public policy to help us and our potential customers to get access to broadband. Thanks, Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey there, These are the congressional districts and the corresponding Representatives. Do you think you might be able to find any good WISPs in some? Thank you! F California 14th district - Anna Eshoo, CA California 19th - George Radanovich, CA California 23rd - Lois Capps, CA California 32nd - Hilda L. Solis, CA California 36th - Jane Harman, CA California 45th - Mary Bono, CA Florida 6th - Cliff Stearns, FL Georgia 9th - Nathan Deal, GA Illinois 1st - Bobby L. Rush, IL Illinois 14th - Dennis Hastert, IL Illinois 19th - John Shimkus, IL Indiana 9th - Baron P. Hill, IN Massachusetts 7th - Edward J. Markey, MA Michigan 1st - Bart Stupak, MI Michigan 6th - Fred Upton, MI Michigan 15th - John D. Dingell, MI Mississippi 3rd - Charles W. Chip Pickering, MS Nebraska 2nd - Lee Terry, NE New Jersey 6th - Frank Pallone, Jr., NJ New Jersey 7th - Mike Ferguson, NJ New Mexico 1st - Heather Wilson, NM New York 10th - Edolphus Towns, NY New York 13th - Vito Fossella, NY New York 17th - Eliot L. Engel, NY Oregon 2nd - Greg Walden, OR Pennsylvania 14th - Mike Doyle, PA Tennessee 6th - Bart Gordon, TN Texas 6th - Joe Barton, TX Texas 9th - Gene Green, TX Texas 20th - Charles A. Gonzalez, TX Virginia 9th - Rick Boucher, VA Wyoming (all over state) - Barbara Cubin, Wy * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:06 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 I'd also like to talk about where you have people who could contact their member of Congress - we might need to map it out, specifically with the members of the relevant committees. If I sent you a list of districts, do you think you might be able to match it up with good WISPA members? I would sure try. Please send me the districts and I will work to find matches. Thanks, Scriv Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:10 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 My cell number is 618-237-2387. Please send me your number. I will plan on us meeting at 3 pm on the 22nd. Cheers! Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Sounds good. I'll check with Durbin's office and see if his staff has time that afternoon. Let's meet for coffee on the 22nd at 3pm if that works for you. If we have a meeting in the Senate, we could just meet over there. Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 3:14 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 I would like to do that. It would need to be in the afternoon if possible. I have other commitments all morning and until after lunch. If you can arrange for a time for me to meet with them in the afternoon and you and I could be there together that would be great. Let me know. Thanks, Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey there, You're in town on the 22^nd right? Do you have time to a) get a cup of coffee with me and b) meet with Senator Durbin's staff? I can set it up if you let me know. I might be out of town on the 23^rd , so I thought I'd check with you now. Best, F * * *
Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
There USED to be three non overlapping channels. Now channel 6 overlaps with every third house in many markets :-). Marlon - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations Standard Wifi has 3 channels that do not overlap. X4 cloaking has 6 channels that do not overlap and X4 cloaking has 11 channels that do not overlap. We use 4 WLM-54G radios in a WAR4 and have seen no great issues unless two active radios are on the same channel. I am not sure about 6 but I know for sure that 4 works fine. Incidentally the SR9 has almost NO leakage. Even with the cards side by side they will not link up. In order to get anything from them you need a pigtail and an antenna. Lonnie On 2/15/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll create for yourself at inches vs. feet is amazing. If you can keep things 3 feet apart there is much less energy, small small fractions in fact. Alvarion with their FHSS gear can get away with such things because they can always stay enough hopping channels away from near by radios. FHSS has 72 (or is it only 70?) channels to choose from. WiFi has basically 2 these days. Where this one gets hard to explain is that people build such critters, test them in the lap and then say that they work. Life will change dramatically however, once installed into a working system AND with the addition of real customers with real traffic. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations I thought you were already working with Deliberant on just such an animal. Where are you guys with that? I know they have a dual radio unit capable of 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz in the same box. Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: We don't do much Wi-Fi, so I figured I would ask the list. If I wanted to deploy a number of Wi-Fi radios at the same location what kind of setups are available? I am looking for something where I can deploy one physical box that has multiple radios as opposed to a single box per radio. Ideally, it would be something modular where I can have a variable number of radio interfaces by simply adding cards. Does anything like that exist? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Attention: Form 445 Information
Below are the companies which are to be included in the revised 445 filing. If your company should have been listed here and is not then please email john at scrivner.com right away. This is available only to paid WISPA Principal Members. New members need to make sure payments for membership are received prior to 2 pm Central time tomorrow (Friday) Payments can be made immediately by sending via Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The revised Form 445 will be filed Friday afternoon. Scriv Companies included: PowerOne Internet NuTel Broadband Corporation AccuBak Data Systems, Inc. NexGenAccess Inc. Geneva On-Line, Inc. Webjogger Internet Services St. Louis Broadband LLC Supernova Systems, Inc. Great American Networks, Inc. Dot11 Networks, Inc. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fw: [Ham-80211] 2.4 GHz remote broadcast
fyi - Original Message - From: Steve To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:26 PM Subject: [Ham-80211] 2.4 GHz remote broadcast Monday I noticed that a local TV station was doing a remote broadcast from downtown. What's interesting about this is that much to my surprise this was done on 2.4 GHz analog. I could see it with a Wavecom Jr. So for a few hours the 2.4 band was trashed. It started with a color test pattern a bit fuzzy as they were apparently aiming the remote van's antenna towards Scrays hill, which I am in the path of. Pretty nice that the local TV stations use a Part 15 band and ham band! for that I thought... A quick look at the 2400-2483.5 MHz licenses in WI shows: KB55142 County: Brown JOURNAL BROADCAST CORPORATION Broadcast Callsign: WGBA EIRP: 60 dBm (1000 watts!) Transmitter Manufacturer: Microwave Radio Comm. Transmitter Model: Code Runner There are other entries, all TV related, that was the only local one I found and this interesting, because their operations are right in the middle of a ham band. Quite surprised and confused to see licenses for this.. Someone a while back point out there are licenses for stuff on the band... This one isn't government related, so quite frankly I'm confused, as it doesn't quite follow the band allocations? ___ ham-80211 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ham-80211 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list
So Steve - who does that mean you leave out? (I can only think of two MAJOR players) You ask this on a list that where there are probably only 3 members who run 100% stickered radios? SHAME! I realize that this will probably stir the stink, but get REAL! Post your list openly - Patrick you can roll in the sunshine for a day, but I will tell you what - -- the day is short and the time is near to where some of the guys whose gear is getting black listed and put to an open shame today in your posts is nearing an end. Then will be our (illegal SOB's today)) time to gloat and bask in the sun like a pig in a long, fat, deep, cool wallow. Then what? Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list I've posted my most recent update to my Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list at http://www.bwiavendors.com/2007/02/ bwia_vendors_up_1.html This update lists 85 unique vendors, and while that's a lot, I know there's more. If you could take a look at it and tell me of any vendors that I missed, I would appreciate it. Please reply OFF-LIST; I don't want to clutter the list. Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. Thanks for any help you can offer to make this a better, more complete list. Thanks, Steve --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
Precisely why X2 cloaking is so important. It doubles the number of channels and X4 gives 11 of them back to us. X4 gives about 7 mbps with non compressible data and over 12 mbps with compressible data. Better than a standard B model with perfect conditions. The other thing to keep in mind is that all of those channel 6 units attached to ADSL lines are typically unused or lightly used. They connect with an ADSL line and thus cannot even begin to consume the total air time. The Telco here is distributing units with 400 mW radaios whether the client even wants wireless in their home. It does not even phase a cloaked connection so we are OK with it. Lonnie On 2/15/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There USED to be three non overlapping channels. Now channel 6 overlaps with every third house in many markets :-). Marlon - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations Standard Wifi has 3 channels that do not overlap. X4 cloaking has 6 channels that do not overlap and X4 cloaking has 11 channels that do not overlap. We use 4 WLM-54G radios in a WAR4 and have seen no great issues unless two active radios are on the same channel. I am not sure about 6 but I know for sure that 4 works fine. Incidentally the SR9 has almost NO leakage. Even with the cards side by side they will not link up. In order to get anything from them you need a pigtail and an antenna. Lonnie On 2/15/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd recommend against that idea Matt. ALL devices leak some energy. And the amount of interference you'll create for yourself at inches vs. feet is amazing. If you can keep things 3 feet apart there is much less energy, small small fractions in fact. Alvarion with their FHSS gear can get away with such things because they can always stay enough hopping channels away from near by radios. FHSS has 72 (or is it only 70?) channels to choose from. WiFi has basically 2 these days. Where this one gets hard to explain is that people build such critters, test them in the lap and then say that they work. Life will change dramatically however, once installed into a working system AND with the addition of real customers with real traffic. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations I thought you were already working with Deliberant on just such an animal. Where are you guys with that? I know they have a dual radio unit capable of 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz in the same box. Scriv Matt Liotta wrote: We don't do much Wi-Fi, so I figured I would ask the list. If I wanted to deploy a number of Wi-Fi radios at the same location what kind of setups are available? I am looking for something where I can deploy one physical box that has multiple radios as opposed to a single box per radio. Ideally, it would be something modular where I can have a variable number of radio interfaces by simply adding cards. Does anything like that exist? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Lonnie Nunweiler Valemount Networks Corporation http://www.star-os.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Re: Feb 22
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:21:19 -0600, John Scrivner wrote I'm in Walden's district here in Oregon. However, I don't fully understand what, exactly, is being sought. Are they wanting someone to lobby the Congresscritters, or are we supposed to contact them to help them...??? What, exactly? Frannie, I have copied the WISPA list server on this email. Please reply to me and let me know exactly what you would like for me to have these contacts do who are in the districts listed below. I am sure you want to see them express their need for unlicensed use of unused television channel space through the WIN Act of 2007. Can you tell us more specific ways we can help drive home this message? Anyone in a district listed below can contact Frannie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or you may work through me to assist you in getting the word out. Together we can actively change public policy to help us and our potential customers to get access to broadband. Thanks, Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey there, These are the congressional districts and the corresponding Representatives. Do you think you might be able to find any good WISPs in some? Thank you! F California 14th district - Anna Eshoo, CA California 19th - George Radanovich, CA California 23rd - Lois Capps, CA California 32nd - Hilda L. Solis, CA California 36th - Jane Harman, CA California 45th - Mary Bono, CA Florida 6th - Cliff Stearns, FL Georgia 9th - Nathan Deal, GA Illinois 1st - Bobby L. Rush, IL Illinois 14th - Dennis Hastert, IL Illinois 19th - John Shimkus, IL Indiana 9th - Baron P. Hill, IN Massachusetts 7th - Edward J. Markey, MA Michigan 1st - Bart Stupak, MI Michigan 6th - Fred Upton, MI Michigan 15th - John D. Dingell, MI Mississippi 3rd - Charles W. Chip Pickering, MS Nebraska 2nd - Lee Terry, NE New Jersey 6th - Frank Pallone, Jr., NJ New Jersey 7th - Mike Ferguson, NJ New Mexico 1st - Heather Wilson, NM New York 10th - Edolphus Towns, NY New York 13th - Vito Fossella, NY New York 17th - Eliot L. Engel, NY Oregon 2nd - Greg Walden, OR Pennsylvania 14th - Mike Doyle, PA Tennessee 6th - Bart Gordon, TN Texas 6th - Joe Barton, TX Texas 9th - Gene Green, TX Texas 20th - Charles A. Gonzalez, TX Virginia 9th - Rick Boucher, VA Wyoming (all over state) - Barbara Cubin, Wy * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 2:06 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 I'd also like to talk about where you have people who could contact their member of Congress - we might need to map it out, specifically with the members of the relevant committees. If I sent you a list of districts, do you think you might be able to match it up with good WISPA members? I would sure try. Please send me the districts and I will work to find matches. Thanks, Scriv Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:10 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 My cell number is 618-237-2387. Please send me your number. I will plan on us meeting at 3 pm on the 22nd. Cheers! Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Sounds good. I'll check with Durbin's office and see if his staff has time that afternoon. Let's meet for coffee on the 22nd at 3pm if that works for you. If we have a meeting in the Senate, we could just meet over there. Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21 www.freepress.net -Original Message- From: John Scrivner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 3:14 PM To: Frannie Wellings Subject: Re: Feb 22 I would like to do that. It would need to be in the afternoon if possible. I have other commitments all morning and until after lunch. If you can arrange for a time for me to meet with them in the afternoon and you and I could be there together that would be great. Let me know. Thanks, Scriv Frannie Wellings wrote: Hey there, You're in town on the 22^nd right? Do you have time to a) get a cup of coffee with me and b) meet with Senator Durbin's staff? I can set it up if you let me know. I might be out of town on the 23^rd , so I thought I'd check with you now. Best, F * * * Frannie Wellings Associate Policy Director Free Press 202.265.1490 x 21
Was: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list : Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!
I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an alarming trend on this list. There are Industry Leaders putting facts out there with out fully examining the truth. Before you flame me, please read all that is below my signature as proof to my comments... Steve, dude... I figure these are advertisers to your blog/newsletter and as such should have come with a disclaimer. Your claim of Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. is patently untrue as you will notice below. I have added my comments on the vendors I know personally. You have placed yourself as an industry leader for some time now. I would have expected that you would not adopt a don't ask, don't tell mentality to your claim of knowing something. I only say this as it only took some personal knowledge of the industry and one hour of my time to discover the flaws in your claim. Patrick, as an Industry Leader, I would expect that you would not just accept anything as fact without researching the claim first. There are a lot of people who accept what you say as fact. While this information is not 100% accurate as the FCC has a lot of work submitted to them every day. I am merely suggesting that the statements of the Industry Leaders should be viewed with the traditional skepticism that should accompany statements from a vendor/vendor-subsidized source. Don't forget to read below the __ line. I have pasted my search results from www.fcc.gov site. David Peterson Formerly of Ultramesh Inc. (a repackaging manufacturer of LocustWorld mesh software + Senao + PCEngines motherboards) - Read below : all information is freely available at www.fcc.gov in the OET search page. - Aruba Networks There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Aruba Networks Avantry There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Avantry Cambridge Broadband There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Cambridge Broadband CarrierComm There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: CarrierComm CoCo Communications (WISP cum manufacturer) There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: CoCo Communications Deliberant I only list them as they only have recently started to reclassify RTL-8186 wireless OEM modules. They have sold many radios illegal as this list has classified them. If you look at their recent certs you will find that they do not manufacture radios but have re-certified them in order to please forums such as this. They have been a homebrewer turned integrator/assembly house since they started. See if their certs match their output power: From fcc.gov - FCC IDENTIFIER: UB8-DLB7000 Name of Grantee: Deliberant LLC Equipment Class: Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter Notes: DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM Grant Notes FCC Rule Parts Frequency Range (MHZ) Output Watts Frequency Tolerance Emission Designator 20 28 36 15C 2412.0 - 2462.0 0.09441 20 28 36 15C 5745.0 - 5825.0 0.06109 --- From Deliberant --- DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Integrated Dual Radio Sku: DLB7023 The DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Dual Radio features an 802.11a interface with 23dBi antenna as well as an 802.11b/g interface that operate simultaneously. This hardware configuration, along with extremely flexible software configuration options, make the DLB7023 one of the most versatile platforms on the market today. Each interface can be an AP, Client, or WDS bridge, which results in the perfect outdoor radio for remote repeaters, apartment communities, and dual-band APs and CPEs. -- (Could be wrong, let me know if 0.06109 EIRP = the above specs...) EION Wireless There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: EION Wireless GIL Technology There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: GIL Technology Qorvus (they only repackage LocustWorld based software with CM9/Ubiquiti and 200mW Senao cards) There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Qorvus --- On 2/15/07 10:17 PM, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, here are a few off my head that are not there...Freewave, MDS, Lightpointe is with an e on the end, Wave Wireless (formerly Waverider, etc.), ZTE (ZiMAX), Huwaie, Acton Wireless Broadband (AWB), is Cirronet still around?, Qualcomm (with their MediaFLO), Arraycom, Terabeam actually dba's as Proxim. P.S. - thanks for
Re: [WISPA] Attention: Form 445 Information
We are a member of WISPA and Part-15 and followed through with the part-15 filing directions before you even offered this. Can we change to yours later if we like? ;) Matt Below are the companies which are to be included in the revised 445 filing. If your company should have been listed here and is not then please email john at scrivner.com right away. This is available only to paid WISPA Principal Members. New members need to make sure payments for membership are received prior to 2 pm Central time tomorrow (Friday) Payments can be made immediately by sending via Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The revised Form 445 will be filed Friday afternoon. Scriv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
Hi Matt, Meru Networks Radio Switch takes up to 4 Wi-Fi cards - 2 b/g, and 2 a. It is controller-based, but the controller could be on a separate network. There is full support for multiple ESSIDs and heavy optimization for voice. You might have heard of Meru in Network Computing's recent article pitting Meru against Cisco. Meru won quite handily in throughput and calls/radio. I've encouraged them to develop an outdoor version, but it's yet to arrive. Best, -- Dylan Oliver Primaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list: Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth!
That is some fine - fast research and dead on Thanks, Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Peterson Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Was: Re: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list: Now: WOW Way to put foot into mouth! I have lurked for some time now, but feel the need to address an alarming trend on this list. There are Industry Leaders putting facts out there with out fully examining the truth. Before you flame me, please read all that is below my signature as proof to my comments... Steve, dude... I figure these are advertisers to your blog/newsletter and as such should have come with a disclaimer. Your claim of Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. is patently untrue as you will notice below. I have added my comments on the vendors I know personally. You have placed yourself as an industry leader for some time now. I would have expected that you would not adopt a don't ask, don't tell mentality to your claim of knowing something. I only say this as it only took some personal knowledge of the industry and one hour of my time to discover the flaws in your claim. Patrick, as an Industry Leader, I would expect that you would not just accept anything as fact without researching the claim first. There are a lot of people who accept what you say as fact. While this information is not 100% accurate as the FCC has a lot of work submitted to them every day. I am merely suggesting that the statements of the Industry Leaders should be viewed with the traditional skepticism that should accompany statements from a vendor/vendor-subsidized source. Don't forget to read below the __ line. I have pasted my search results from www.fcc.gov site. David Peterson Formerly of Ultramesh Inc. (a repackaging manufacturer of LocustWorld mesh software + Senao + PCEngines motherboards) - Read below : all information is freely available at www.fcc.gov in the OET search page. - Aruba Networks There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Aruba Networks Avantry There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Avantry Cambridge Broadband There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Cambridge Broadband CarrierComm There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: CarrierComm CoCo Communications (WISP cum manufacturer) There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: CoCo Communications Deliberant I only list them as they only have recently started to reclassify RTL-8186 wireless OEM modules. They have sold many radios illegal as this list has classified them. If you look at their recent certs you will find that they do not manufacture radios but have re-certified them in order to please forums such as this. They have been a homebrewer turned integrator/assembly house since they started. See if their certs match their output power: From fcc.gov - FCC IDENTIFIER: UB8-DLB7000 Name of Grantee: Deliberant LLC Equipment Class: Part 15 Spread Spectrum Transmitter Notes: DIGITAL TRANSMISSION SYSTEM Grant Notes FCC Rule Parts Frequency Range (MHZ) Output Watts Frequency Tolerance Emission Designator 20 28 36 15C 2412.0 - 2462.0 0.09441 20 28 36 15C 5745.0 - 5825.0 0.06109 --- From Deliberant --- DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Integrated Dual Radio Sku: DLB7023 The DLB7023 802.11a + g 23dBi Dual Radio features an 802.11a interface with 23dBi antenna as well as an 802.11b/g interface that operate simultaneously. This hardware configuration, along with extremely flexible software configuration options, make the DLB7023 one of the most versatile platforms on the market today. Each interface can be an AP, Client, or WDS bridge, which results in the perfect outdoor radio for remote repeaters, apartment communities, and dual-band APs and CPEs. -- (Could be wrong, let me know if 0.06109 EIRP = the above specs...) EION Wireless There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: EION Wireless GIL Technology There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: GIL Technology Qorvus (they only repackage LocustWorld based software with CM9/Ubiquiti and 200mW Senao cards) There are no applications on file that match the search criteria specified: Applicant Name: Qorvus --- On 2/15/07 10:17 PM, Patrick Leary
RE: [WISPA] multi-radio Wi-Fi base stations
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: SNIP FHSS has 72 (or is it only 70?) channels to choose from. WiFi has basically 2 these days. Last account I had was that FHSS had 75 channels and I could have sworn last time I looked we still had 3 non over lapping channels in 802.11b DSSS. Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list
Damn Mac, I really can't understand what you are trying to say. Are you saying that some day illegal vendors may be legal? And you point is what? That I'll go, Oh no! Now they're legal, what shall I do? Well good for them; I'll welcome them into the business. And then we can compete on the level playing field and I'm all for it -- win or lose. Think about it Mac, do you really think I'm somebody that's afraid to compete? Patrick Leary AVP WISP Markets Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:10 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list So Steve - who does that mean you leave out? (I can only think of two MAJOR players) You ask this on a list that where there are probably only 3 members who run 100% stickered radios? SHAME! I realize that this will probably stir the stink, but get REAL! Post your list openly - Patrick you can roll in the sunshine for a day, but I will tell you what - -- the day is short and the time is near to where some of the guys whose gear is getting black listed and put to an open shame today in your posts is nearing an end. Then will be our (illegal SOB's today)) time to gloat and bask in the sun like a pig in a long, fat, deep, cool wallow. Then what? Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Stroh Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 6:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list I've posted my most recent update to my Broadband Wireless Internet Access Vendors list at http://www.bwiavendors.com/2007/02/ bwia_vendors_up_1.html This update lists 85 unique vendors, and while that's a lot, I know there's more. If you could take a look at it and tell me of any vendors that I missed, I would appreciate it. Please reply OFF-LIST; I don't want to clutter the list. Please note that I'm deliberately not listing vendors who only sell sub-systems such as antennas, radio cards, etc. - only full-blown radio systems suitable for outdoor use. An additional caveat is that I won't knowingly list systems that are not FCC certified. Thanks for any help you can offer to make this a better, more complete list. Thanks, Steve --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Writing about BWIA again! - www.bwianews.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
