Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
This is my main distribution point, 1 wireless hop away from my main POP. 270 wireless units all in bridge mode + customer PC/Router routing through it. All 8 ethernet ports are routing, not using bridging. Using RIP between MT routers across wireless links at remote WiPOPs. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Robert Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What are you doing with the RB532 to make it load so much? Possible to use a PC with 512 to 1 gig ram, 3.0 cpu, 2 MT RB44 ethernet boards (this would give you 8 etherports) and Mikrotik OS level 5 or 6. Does it have to be a rack mount? Or can you mount it on a shelf installed in the rack. A mini case would fit in that space. Mine is working great with a hundred + customers, it's got a 3.0 intel cpu on an asus motherboard, 512 ram, mini tower case, with 1 RB44 4 port nic card, running QOS, Firewall rules, and everything else to go with routing. No hard drive, has cd rom and the only moving part is case fan and cpu fan. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
(sorry to reply to my own post)... Forgot to mention...150 cable customers on the remote side of a wireless link as well. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC This is my main distribution point, 1 wireless hop away from my main POP. 270 wireless units all in bridge mode + customer PC/Router routing through it. All 8 ethernet ports are routing, not using bridging. Using RIP between MT routers across wireless links at remote WiPOPs. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Robert Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What are you doing with the RB532 to make it load so much? Possible to use a PC with 512 to 1 gig ram, 3.0 cpu, 2 MT RB44 ethernet boards (this would give you 8 etherports) and Mikrotik OS level 5 or 6. Does it have to be a rack mount? Or can you mount it on a shelf installed in the rack. A mini case would fit in that space. Mine is working great with a hundred + customers, it's got a 3.0 intel cpu on an asus motherboard, 512 ram, mini tower case, with 1 RB44 4 port nic card, running QOS, Firewall rules, and everything else to go with routing. No hard drive, has cd rom and the only moving part is case fan and cpu fan. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Did a little research on Mikrotik and number of MT RB44 nic cards used. Here is the link. http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=10803highlight=rb44sid=996f59c0f b2ae60da05f3cc91d149375 I hope this helps you. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
No wonder it's choking. LOL Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC This is my main distribution point, 1 wireless hop away from my main POP. 270 wireless units all in bridge mode + customer PC/Router routing through it. All 8 ethernet ports are routing, not using bridging. Using RIP between MT routers across wireless links at remote WiPOPs. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Robert Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What are you doing with the RB532 to make it load so much? Possible to use a PC with 512 to 1 gig ram, 3.0 cpu, 2 MT RB44 ethernet boards (this would give you 8 etherports) and Mikrotik OS level 5 or 6. Does it have to be a rack mount? Or can you mount it on a shelf installed in the rack. A mini case would fit in that space. Mine is working great with a hundred + customers, it's got a 3.0 intel cpu on an asus motherboard, 512 ram, mini tower case, with 1 RB44 4 port nic card, running QOS, Firewall rules, and everything else to go with routing. No hard drive, has cd rom and the only moving part is case fan and cpu fan. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Try an Imagestream for some horsepower :-) Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 22:08:21 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC (sorry to reply to my own post)... Forgot to mention...150 cable customers on the remote side of a wireless link as well. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC This is my main distribution point, 1 wireless hop away from my main POP. 270 wireless units all in bridge mode + customer PC/Router routing through it. All 8 ethernet ports are routing, not using bridging. Using RIP between MT routers across wireless links at remote WiPOPs. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Robert Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What are you doing with the RB532 to make it load so much? Possible to use a PC with 512 to 1 gig ram, 3.0 cpu, 2 MT RB44 ethernet boards (this would give you 8 etherports) and Mikrotik OS level 5 or 6. Does it have to be a rack mount? Or can you mount it on a shelf installed in the rack. A mini case would fit in that space. Mine is working great with a hundred + customers, it's got a 3.0 intel cpu on an asus motherboard, 512 ram, mini tower case, with 1 RB44 4 port nic card, running QOS, Firewall rules, and everything else to go with routing. No hard drive, has cd rom and the only moving part is case fan and cpu fan. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services
All, The way the ILEC's look at it, they put the infrastructure in place and to have CLEC's profit from it would not be in their best interest since the CLEC would be using these same lines the ILECs could potentially get retail for. Whether the ILEC would actually provide these services is an argument for another day. As I understand it, one of the advantages of getting CLEC status was to get better pricing, this is no longer the case. I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. :-) Regards, Dawn DiPietro W.D.McKinney wrote: The FCC has been influenced by changes in staff, Senate oversight, and the consolidation the Bell operating entities. Becoming a CLEC now is more streamlined than in the beginning, but depending on your PUC and competitive envirement, may still be expensive. As always, if you going to wage war, get counsel. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:33:45 -0800 Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services George, It sounds as if they are a start up CLEC and haven't had the time to exactly figure out what is available to them and the costs associated with the product offerings. I use to be in that same boat, but we finally figured out that Bell South has nothing available in N. Louisiana other than a fiber connection (the only one in this parish short of theirs) we paid for and T1's. I am not kidding - - T1's are available, but you can't even get a PRI short of Monroe. (30 miles west of here)It's a crying shame any portion of this nation can be so technologically retarded compared to the rest of the world. I have been playing with the idea of becoming a CLEEC myself. I know Bell South has quizzed me on this with a lot of intensity. Makes me wonder what the deal is! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services I'm sure Peter can help, but I'm curious why the clec doesn't know these things, aren't they a facilities based clec with interconection agreement with the ilec? George Rick Harnish wrote: Peter is no longer suspended and I agree with Mac! Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services Doug, I can give you a name of a man who can take you by the hand and lead you through the wildness of the Telco maze as well as explain it to where you can understand it all. I can also tell you he is ABSOLUTELY worth more than he charges for consulting! His name is Peter Radizeski and he is member on the free WISPA list - - currently suspended for - - er...well, less than perfect list etiquette (hehehehehe) Email addy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rad-info.net/ GL, Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Rayville, La. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief) www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales) 318.728.8600 318.728.9600 318.303.4182 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] CLEC Services We have a CLEC who's co-located their offices with ours, and although they're residential copper analog only, they told us they can order anything from the ILEC for us for cost and a small markup. But it's Bellsouth territory, and he's given me the tech line's phone number and a big book of services, but I don't even know where to start. I'm looking for prices on T1's, and also DSL I can sell private label with my own TOS. I don't want to have any facilities to install at the CO, just use the CO's equipment under the CLEC's name but I don't even know what services to request. Any ideas where to start? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Takea look at this: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=182 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services
- Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sun, 13 May 2007 04:07:19 -0800 Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services All, The way the ILEC's look at it, they put the infrastructure in place and to have CLEC's profit from it would not be in their best interest since the CLEC would be using these same lines the ILECs could potentially get retail for. Whether the ILEC would actually provide these services is an argument for another day. As I understand it, one of the advantages of getting CLEC status was to get better pricing, this is no longer the case. I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. :-) Regards, Dawn DiPietro You are correct, I have worked for an IXC, ILEC and CLEC in past lives. Currently there is a move to make CLEC's pay up for the no facilities side, as they capitalized on the ILEC infrastructure since the ACT passed. Now they are being told to build/buy their own facilities or pay less discounted rates to the incumbent. Sate Regulatory Commissions have differing rules for CLEC's still, but it's still a way to make money as Frame Relay never died, but MPLS is picking up speed. Business services are still the bread and butter of Verizon and ATT, don't forget it. -Dee W.D.McKinney wrote: The FCC has been influenced by changes in staff, Senate oversight, and the consolidation the Bell operating entities. Becoming a CLEC now is more streamlined than in the beginning, but depending on your PUC and competitive envirement, may still be expensive. As always, if you going to wage war, get counsel. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat, 12 May 2007 17:33:45 -0800 Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services George, It sounds as if they are a start up CLEC and haven't had the time to exactly figure out what is available to them and the costs associated with the product offerings. I use to be in that same boat, but we finally figured out that Bell South has nothing available in N. Louisiana other than a fiber connection (the only one in this parish short of theirs) we paid for and T1's. I am not kidding - - T1's are available, but you can't even get a PRI short of Monroe. (30 miles west of here)It's a crying shame any portion of this nation can be so technologically retarded compared to the rest of the world. I have been playing with the idea of becoming a CLEEC myself. I know Bell South has quizzed me on this with a lot of intensity. Makes me wonder what the deal is! Mac -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services I'm sure Peter can help, but I'm curious why the clec doesn't know these things, aren't they a facilities based clec with interconection agreement with the ilec? George Rick Harnish wrote: Peter is no longer suspended and I agree with Mac! Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 1:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services Doug, I can give you a name of a man who can take you by the hand and lead you through the wildness of the Telco maze as well as explain it to where you can understand it all. I can also tell you he is ABSOLUTELY worth more than he charges for consulting! His name is Peter Radizeski and he is member on the free WISPA list - - currently suspended for - - er...well, less than perfect list etiquette (hehehehehe) Email addy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rad-info.net/ GL, Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Rayville, La. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief) www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales) 318.728.8600 318.728.9600 318.303.4182 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] CLEC Services We have a CLEC who's co-located their offices with ours, and although they're residential copper analog only, they told us they can order anything from the ILEC for us for cost and a small markup. But it's Bellsouth territory, and he's given me the tech line's phone
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Hey, Gino... Have you successfully deployed RouterOS on one of these Axiomtek appliances? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Takea look at this: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=182 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
What does pricing look like for them ? JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Hey, Gino... Have you successfully deployed RouterOS on one of these Axiomtek appliances? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Takea look at this: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=182 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services
I think the CLEC just wanted to do POTS. Plus the ICA is 875 pages long in most cases (most of it rates and USOC's). Really all you can get as a CLEC is copper and right of way. Mac, why PRI? Sell the customers in your area PRI via a SIP trunk. - Peter Mac Dearman wrote: George, It sounds as if they are a start up CLEC and haven't had the time to exactly figure out what is available to them and the costs associated with the product offerings. I use to be in that same boat, but we finally figured out that Bell South has nothing available in N. Louisiana other than a fiber connection (the only one in this parish short of theirs) we paid for and T1's. I am not kidding - - T1's are available, but you can't even get a PRI short of Monroe. (30 miles west of here)It's a crying shame any portion of this nation can be so technologically retarded compared to the rest of the world. I have been playing with the idea of becoming a CLEEC myself. I know Bell South has quizzed me on this with a lot of intensity. Makes me wonder what the deal is! Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CLEC Services
To be a CLEC, you should really know what your game plan is going to be. Get the CLEC License is just paperwork, filing fees, and patience (or Kris Twomey can help you for a reasonable rate). (I also work with a CLEC Consultant who can help you design a game plan, get your license, and move forward). But you need to know what you want the license for. Because negotiating the ICA (Inter-connect agreement) is where the rubber meets the road. Being a mini-BellSouth only works if you have millions of dollars and a big staff. Figure out a marketing plan and a remarkable product for your area and go get it. - Peter W.D.McKinney wrote: The FCC has been influenced by changes in staff, Senate oversight, and the consolidation the Bell operating entities. Becoming a CLEC now is more streamlined than in the beginning, but depending on your PUC and competitive envirement, may still be expensive. As always, if you going to wage war, get counsel. -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] CLEC Services
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Mac, why PRI? Sell the customers in your area PRI via a SIP trunk. - Peter [Mac says:] I have PRI's in Monroe, but the phone numbers are all out of Monroe as well. I am in the process of working out a deal with a company in Dallas that will make my PRI via SIP a much better quality. We are currently terminating a lot of our Local stuff in New York and Pittsburgh as well as Denver Colorado, but PRI via SIP to these places is not always (impossible) easy to control QOS. I may be calling you again soon!! We are currently just starting to test with this new carrier out of Dallas and thus far it has been very sweet! Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular
I have been looking into wholeselling these cards with the routers bundled together. Mostly for customers who are outside of my converage area. Will let you know more about it, specifically sprint is running EDVO RevA, cards get a good 1.5 meg down, latency to the first hop varies, from 40ms to about 500ms. Avg though with nothing else running is about 40-80ms. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular Sprint EVDO is $59-79 per month, and there are hardware routers that accept the card. John -Original Message- From: Pete Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 05:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular The $10/mo for web access with Sprint ONLY applies to the use on the phone. When you plug in the data cable, and use it as a modem, its like $0.30/kb. Learning that lesson cost me. The unlimited phone-as-a-modem or data card rate is around $39/mo. Does anyone know if there are drivers/capabilities to link a data card to a Mikrotik or StarOS box? I guess that there are other Linux drivers out there, so my thinking may work. I have considered for some time the possibilities of making a box to mount in my car (car-puter) with a Sprint (or Cingular, or Verizon, or whoever) cellular type data connection, with a WIFI client as the primary (or secondary) mode of connection. With DDNS, access to the dash mounted camera, GPS stream, etc should be easy enough, making it a roll-your-own LowJack type system. Also, in the car, an ethernet jack to plug a laptop into could be nice, as well as opening the possibilities to put in an ATA to make VOIP calls, as well as adding a WIFI AP. $39/mo for unlimited data connectivity, especially if it gives the speed/latency required to do VOIP, seems like a bargain compared to $129/mo for 2000 minutes. I guess a Windows-based system could do all of those things, but the RAM/processor/etc/boot time/bluescreens associated with Windoze don't seem to make it conducive to this type of project, IMO. The car-puter installation plan things that I have read about seem to focus on GPS and MP3 playing. Since my wreck 6 yrs ago, where I couldn't prove to the insurance company (5 eyewitnesses from every direction from the intersection and a police report weren't good enough) that I had the green light. I have been thinking about a car-mounted DVR with cameras in the grill, the dash, and in the back to offer video defense in a car accident claim. Showing the judge, the insurance agent, or whoever a DVD of the video surveillance of the accident could save a lot of time and hassle. What I wish someone would sell for a car (these things probably all exist in one form or another with various systems) is a computer that will act as a: DVR security cam recorder (cam pointed at the driver seat to prosecute the car thief, + cams on bumpers to witness accidents) Data port (ethernet + WIFI AP) Web server (with DDNS support to access the stored data, even when the car is away from the house, like at an impound yard or after being stolen) MP3 player Realtime ODBII scanning/recording/diagnostics of the car. VOIP system. GPS stream recording. (to show he teenage driver when/how fast she was really driving) I would think that these things could all be incorporated for under $2k, mounted in the trunk, and it would be something that would sell like crazy for $3k installed. I guess what I would like is a retail version of this with more features: http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/d04305f2dbbf1110vgnvcm104eecbccdrcrd .html pd Rich Comroe wrote: What a rip! Sprint told me it's only $300-400 to get out of a Sprint contract. What's it cost to early terminate a Cingular contract? Why doesn't he just terminate? Getting a $1200 monthly bill is ridiculous! UNLIMITED data to a Sprint windows phone is only about $10/month, and there's no way to limit it to not operate tethered to a computer (other than unreasonably large download usage). And it's EVDO, so it blows away that measley 125 - 175 kbit. I really think those PCMCIA cards are a rip-off for service cost compared to just getting unlimited data service to your cellphone. I love ppc6700 windows phones ... a lot lighter and smaller than a laptop yet nearly as capable. Rich - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular oh, I'm most certainly under $1200, even for a whole year. :-p Anyone have experience getting out of a bad Cingular deal? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scott Reed [EMAIL
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Mark, Just build yourself a 1gig VIA PC. Simple, easy, or grab yourself something faster, such as a standard HP PC etc, The simplest thing would be to grab a 64meg IDE Flash card with MT loaded, else, you can load it up on a HD if you wish! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
What really comes down to this is the thoughput, 20 meg is about max on the 532s with the 266 processors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:59 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC This is my main distribution point, 1 wireless hop away from my main POP. 270 wireless units all in bridge mode + customer PC/Router routing through it. All 8 ethernet ports are routing, not using bridging. Using RIP between MT routers across wireless links at remote WiPOPs. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Robert Norris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 10:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What are you doing with the RB532 to make it load so much? Possible to use a PC with 512 to 1 gig ram, 3.0 cpu, 2 MT RB44 ethernet boards (this would give you 8 etherports) and Mikrotik OS level 5 or 6. Does it have to be a rack mount? Or can you mount it on a shelf installed in the rack. A mini case would fit in that space. Mine is working great with a hundred + customers, it's got a 3.0 intel cpu on an asus motherboard, 512 ram, mini tower case, with 1 RB44 4 port nic card, running QOS, Firewall rules, and everything else to go with routing. No hard drive, has cd rom and the only moving part is case fan and cpu fan. Robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Been looking at these myself :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 2:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC What does pricing look like for them ? JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Hey, Gino... Have you successfully deployed RouterOS on one of these Axiomtek appliances? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Takea look at this: http://www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=182 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC
Thanks, everyone. I had heard that the RB44's have issues under load (performance/lockup). Seeing as I will need 8 ethernet ports for this router, any recommendations instead of the RB44? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 6:27 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC Mark, Just build yourself a 1gig VIA PC. Simple, easy, or grab yourself something faster, such as a standard HP PC etc, The simplest thing would be to grab a 64meg IDE Flash card with MT loaded, else, you can load it up on a HD if you wish! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik PC I need more horsepower at one router site. It's got a MT RB532 (233MHz/32MB) and it is pegging at 100% at times, mostly in the 85% range, though. The location has a 19 rack (only about 18 deep, though). Need 8 FastEthernet ports. No wireless. Want to user Mikrotik RouterOS. Can anyone recommend a box for this? Thanks. Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular
3G Routers: Digi ConnectPort WAN VPN supports GSM EDGE CDMA/EVDO Encore Networks Bandit III that is Industrially Hardened Security Appliance - will connect to T1, DSL, IP, PSTN or CDMA/EVDO or GSM AirLink Raven X supports EVDO Linksys WRGT54G3G-ST supports EVDO Junxion Box supports EVDO Regards, Peter @ RAD-INFO, Inc. Dennis Burgess - 2K Wireless wrote: I have been looking into wholeselling these cards with the routers bundled together. Mostly for customers who are outside of my converage area. Will let you know more about it, specifically sprint is running EDVO RevA, cards get a good 1.5 meg down, latency to the first hop varies, from 40ms to about 500ms. Avg though with nothing else running is about 40-80ms. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Try it out vs. Cingular Sprint EVDO is $59-79 per month, and there are hardware routers that accept the card. John -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
