[WISPA] RF linx
Anyone know how to get through RF linx's voicejail to talk to someone? I have been calling all morning and only get automated crap and then leave a message... Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF linx
finally got through, they were all in a meeting.. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone know how to get through RF linx's voicejail to talk to someone? I have been calling all morning and only get automated crap and then leave a message... Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF linx
Don't bother emailing them either, if they do respond it won't be till 5:00 on a Friday that way you can't email them back. -- Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com - Original Message From: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] RF linx Date: 08/21/08 11:46 Anyone know how to get through RF linx's voicejail to talk to someone? I have been calling all morning and only get automated crap and then leave a message... Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a company that would like to track real-time and summary information of internet activity of it's employees (by IP). They are looking for summary information, not email content/instant messenger chats/passwords. What would be ideal would be a passive device that acts like a sniffer that either hits layer 7 and reads the www.xx.com from the data portion of the packets, or just looks at the DNS traffic, tracks IPs and reports it. Maybe even amount of bandwidth spent at each IP... or something of that nature. If it's just reporting you want, Cymphonix makes boxes that do exactly what you're asking for. Can be a transparent bridge or a NAT gateway, has all kinds of fancy reporting, tracking, and filtering capabilities. I've had one for a while I keep meaning to put in place for our offices (our customer network has long since outgrown its capabilities). That, along with similar systems from Allot and Packeteer probably cost more than Ntop, Mikrotik, etc. but they provide tech support etc. that you may not want to have to do. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF linx
RF Linx is a little, bitty outfit. But they do good work. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: finally got through, they were all in a meeting.. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone know how to get through RF linx's voicejail to talk to someone? I have been calling all morning and only get automated crap and then leave a message... Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF linx
I've never dealt with them, so I didn't know. Either way...my stuff shipped out ground and I'll have it tomorrow. That is all I wanted. Blair Davis wrote: RF Linx is a little, bitty outfit. But they do good work. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: finally got through, they were all in a meeting.. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone know how to get through RF linx's voicejail to talk to someone? I have been calling all morning and only get automated crap and then leave a message... Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Dual DS3 Router FS
Parting with a trusty Cisco 7140 Router Dual DS3 ports Dual AC Power Supplies Dual Fast Ethernet Been in service for 3 years without a hitch, great for DS3 edge router! Offering first here before going to ebay OT for more info! Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program
Employers own the content of all correspondence That has been time tested. Not true, from my experience. Expecially if the correspondance is non-business related. Actually, I was involved in a case where the employer was successfully sued by the employee for violating their employee's privacy. The employer was threatening to fire certain employees, based on the content (most likely porn) of personal Emails sent and read from work, and Web access to some sites. We installed the original tracking system, and we de-installed it after they lost the suit, and re-installed the new solution that did not put the employer at risk to lose another costly law suit of that nature. Granted, this took place probably 8 years ago, when I was still in the LAN network integration business. There could have been newer law changing legislation. Regardless of what the current laws are or are not, an Employer really needs to think about whether they really want to go there in the first place, to risk defending litigation. Privacy issues can be very complicated, and expensive to defend. By default the legal system favors the employee in almost all aspects, and the employer is held responsible for the burden to setup the policies, proceedures, and agreements in advance in a way that are law biding. At minimum, a clear plan has to be defined on what the privacy policy is. In many cases if a policy is set AFTER an employee starts employment, it can be argued that the employee was Coerced/forced to sign an agreement that they did not want to agree to, or they'd lose the job that they rely on, which they committed to based on other terms. So there is even the possibilty that signed privacy agreements can be thrown out as non-inforcible. Again, these are very generalized statements, and there are many variables that go into what is and isn't legally inforcible. Installing a solution that allows one to manage there network, completely avoids the privacy issues and any law suits, and often accomplishes the same goals, to keep employees focused on work and not personal activities. To be clear, there are four issue here. 1) Tracking someone's use without letting them know that you are tracking it. (remember why someone must disclose if a telephone call or conversation is being recorded?) 2) Tracking someone's use with or without an official privacy/usage policy. (remember discussions regarding ISPs privacy issues) 3) Whether you are allowed to track someone's personal/private Internet use in the first place, and if so, how its distinguished which use/content is personal/private versus business. 4) Whether being on-the-clock and within a Business office is enough to for someone's Internet use/content to be considered Business property. Prior to tracking Employee's use the Employer should have a clear legal understanding of how they can defend each and every one of these things, are they are putting themselves at a legal risk. I can tell you, the case I was involved in was not a small claims court case. Big dollars were put on the table. If this same situation occured to a small company, I'd bet that 99% of the employers would be forced to settle out of court early, and payoff the employee, because the cost to defend the case would far outway the benefit, and getting compensation from the employee for the legal fees is not a likely thing to occur. Its something to think about. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Not true. Employers own the content of all correspondence, whether electronic or otherwise. That has been time tested. Plus, in this state we can record the phone calls. We can record you on the phone without even notifying you if we call you or if you call us. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Also note there are privacy legal issues here. Some opinions are that it is illegal for an employer to secretly watch their employee's Internet content and/or usage. That information is considered the property of the employee. This is why many organizations chose to restrict what their employees can do, apposed to watch what is being done. If information is being tracked, it should be tracked in a non-biases consistent way, with disclosure, or deployed with an alternate duplicate purpose . For example, if you install a Proxy server, that data will often be available, but it could be defended as a security protection measure. (apposed to invasion of privacy and spying on employees) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband -
Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program
If they sign the disclosure statement, they have no place on which to hang their hat. It is the disclosure or lack thereof that gets some companies into trouble. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Employers own the content of all correspondence That has been time tested. Not true, from my experience. Expecially if the correspondance is non-business related. Actually, I was involved in a case where the employer was successfully sued by the employee for violating their employee's privacy. The employer was threatening to fire certain employees, based on the content (most likely porn) of personal Emails sent and read from work, and Web access to some sites. We installed the original tracking system, and we de-installed it after they lost the suit, and re-installed the new solution that did not put the employer at risk to lose another costly law suit of that nature. Granted, this took place probably 8 years ago, when I was still in the LAN network integration business. There could have been newer law changing legislation. Regardless of what the current laws are or are not, an Employer really needs to think about whether they really want to go there in the first place, to risk defending litigation. Privacy issues can be very complicated, and expensive to defend. By default the legal system favors the employee in almost all aspects, and the employer is held responsible for the burden to setup the policies, proceedures, and agreements in advance in a way that are law biding. At minimum, a clear plan has to be defined on what the privacy policy is. In many cases if a policy is set AFTER an employee starts employment, it can be argued that the employee was Coerced/forced to sign an agreement that they did not want to agree to, or they'd lose the job that they rely on, which they committed to based on other terms. So there is even the possibilty that signed privacy agreements can be thrown out as non-inforcible. Again, these are very generalized statements, and there are many variables that go into what is and isn't legally inforcible. Installing a solution that allows one to manage there network, completely avoids the privacy issues and any law suits, and often accomplishes the same goals, to keep employees focused on work and not personal activities. To be clear, there are four issue here. 1) Tracking someone's use without letting them know that you are tracking it. (remember why someone must disclose if a telephone call or conversation is being recorded?) 2) Tracking someone's use with or without an official privacy/usage policy. (remember discussions regarding ISPs privacy issues) 3) Whether you are allowed to track someone's personal/private Internet use in the first place, and if so, how its distinguished which use/content is personal/private versus business. 4) Whether being on-the-clock and within a Business office is enough to for someone's Internet use/content to be considered Business property. Prior to tracking Employee's use the Employer should have a clear legal understanding of how they can defend each and every one of these things, are they are putting themselves at a legal risk. I can tell you, the case I was involved in was not a small claims court case. Big dollars were put on the table. If this same situation occured to a small company, I'd bet that 99% of the employers would be forced to settle out of court early, and payoff the employee, because the cost to defend the case would far outway the benefit, and getting compensation from the employee for the legal fees is not a likely thing to occur. Its something to think about. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Not true. Employers own the content of all correspondence, whether electronic or otherwise. That has been time tested. Plus, in this state we can record the phone calls. We can record you on the phone without even notifying you if we call you or if you call us. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Also note there are privacy legal issues here. Some opinions are that it is illegal for an employer to secretly watch their employee's Internet content and/or usage. That information is considered the property of the employee. This is why many organizations chose to restrict what their employees can do, apposed to watch what is being done. If information is
Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program
Guys, Again, I don't want to get side-tracked. Please bring it back on topic. Thanks, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Employers own the content of all correspondence That has been time tested. Not true, from my experience. Expecially if the correspondance is non-business related. Actually, I was involved in a case where the employer was successfully sued by the employee for violating their employee's privacy. The employer was threatening to fire certain employees, based on the content (most likely porn) of personal Emails sent and read from work, and Web access to some sites. We installed the original tracking system, and we de-installed it after they lost the suit, and re-installed the new solution that did not put the employer at risk to lose another costly law suit of that nature. Granted, this took place probably 8 years ago, when I was still in the LAN network integration business. There could have been newer law changing legislation. Regardless of what the current laws are or are not, an Employer really needs to think about whether they really want to go there in the first place, to risk defending litigation. Privacy issues can be very complicated, and expensive to defend. By default the legal system favors the employee in almost all aspects, and the employer is held responsible for the burden to setup the policies, proceedures, and agreements in advance in a way that are law biding. At minimum, a clear plan has to be defined on what the privacy policy is. In many cases if a policy is set AFTER an employee starts employment, it can be argued that the employee was Coerced/forced to sign an agreement that they did not want to agree to, or they'd lose the job that they rely on, which they committed to based on other terms. So there is even the possibilty that signed privacy agreements can be thrown out as non-inforcible. Again, these are very generalized statements, and there are many variables that go into what is and isn't legally inforcible. Installing a solution that allows one to manage there network, completely avoids the privacy issues and any law suits, and often accomplishes the same goals, to keep employees focused on work and not personal activities. To be clear, there are four issue here. 1) Tracking someone's use without letting them know that you are tracking it. (remember why someone must disclose if a telephone call or conversation is being recorded?) 2) Tracking someone's use with or without an official privacy/usage policy. (remember discussions regarding ISPs privacy issues) 3) Whether you are allowed to track someone's personal/private Internet use in the first place, and if so, how its distinguished which use/content is personal/private versus business. 4) Whether being on-the-clock and within a Business office is enough to for someone's Internet use/content to be considered Business property. Prior to tracking Employee's use the Employer should have a clear legal understanding of how they can defend each and every one of these things, are they are putting themselves at a legal risk. I can tell you, the case I was involved in was not a small claims court case. Big dollars were put on the table. If this same situation occured to a small company, I'd bet that 99% of the employers would be forced to settle out of court early, and payoff the employee, because the cost to defend the case would far outway the benefit, and getting compensation from the employee for the legal fees is not a likely thing to occur. Its something to think about. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Not true. Employers own the content of all correspondence, whether electronic or otherwise. That has been time tested. Plus, in this state we can record the phone calls. We can record you on the phone without even notifying you if we call you or if you call us. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Also note there are privacy legal issues here. Some opinions are that it is illegal for an employer to secretly watch their employee's Internet content and/or usage. That information is considered the property of the employee. This is why many organizations chose to restrict what their employees can do, apposed to watch what is being done. If information is being tracked, it should be tracked in a non-biases consistent way, with disclosure, or deployed with an
Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program
Eric, The matter at hand is to monitor traffic as a summary OK. I did not understand that initially, since you referenced keylogger as the previous solution that logs content and spys on Employee's private usage. I am not a lawyer, so I will leave that for this employer to consult his attorney Agreed. Thats the approach we take. If they want a solution we give it to them, but we advise them that some issues could exist, and they should address them with their attorneys, if they are concerned about it. I want suggestions at this point. I'd agree with others' advice. NTOP is probably a good way to do it. Actually anyone that runs a Linux router with Iptables, generally can get basic data. For example, a Firewall rule can be set up to allow each service that they want to track. Then you can count how many hits each rule gets. Or just send to a log, all firewall matches. And write quick scripts that looks at each line in the log and matches the IP and port. Of course, not a good end user solution, nor the advised way to do it, for anything other than troubleshooting when you don't have a solution in place. I can't really advise on a package, because so much has changed in the last 8 years, since we installed them. Some have been discontinued as their proxy technology did not handle all the new ways web sites work and such. But again, I seem to remember than many web proxies provide much of that data. If primarily web usage tracking is wanted, Things like Windows 2000's proxy server, Firedoor, WinProxy, I think could do it. Haven't used those for ages though. The common namebrand firewall appliances like Sonicwalls, now have modules for content control and management, at some level. Which provide some layer of tracking. As they are trying to migrate to attrack MSPs. Outside of that... others actually doing it now, will probably have better advise for products to use. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Not directed toward Chuck or Tom. We (WISPA lists) tend to get off track and I want suggestions at this point. I am not a lawyer, so I will leave that for this employer to consult his attorney. The matter at hand is to monitor traffic as a summary, not capture data. Thanks, Eric -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Not true. Employers own the content of all correspondence, whether electronic or otherwise. That has been time tested. Plus, in this state we can record the phone calls. We can record you on the phone without even notifying you if we call you or if you call us. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program Also note there are privacy legal issues here. Some opinions are that it is illegal for an employer to secretly watch their employee's Internet content and/or usage. That information is considered the property of the employee. This is why many organizations chose to restrict what their employees can do, apposed to watch what is being done. If information is being tracked, it should be tracked in a non-biases consistent way, with disclosure, or deployed with an alternate duplicate purpose . For example, if you install a Proxy server, that data will often be available, but it could be defended as a security protection measure. (apposed to invasion of privacy and spying on employees) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eric Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:11 AM Subject: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program I have a company that would like to track real-time and summary information of internet activity of it's employees (by IP). They are looking for summary information, not email content/instant messenger chats/passwords. What would be ideal would be a passive device that acts like a sniffer that either hits layer 7 and reads the www.xx.com from the data portion of the packets, or just looks at the DNS traffic, tracks IPs and reports it. Maybe even amount of bandwidth spent at each IP... or something of that nature. Any ideas? I have recommended software that is a keylogger and recorder, but they want something that is totally transparent, i.e. sniffer. Thanks, Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Costs
Interesting arcticle. What so many forget is that Fiber does not just cost $4000 per sub to Verizon, it costs $17 /month per subscriber. There is a big difference. Long term beneift is undisputed. The problem a small provider has to ask is... How do they fund it. Its also important to note though that the $4000/sub accounts for all costs for full Fiber end to end. It can cost much less for a partial hybrid fiber deployment that is cherry picked. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Costs Hmmm... http://www.go-nowires.com/wireless-blog/fios-too-risky/ From the article: When it was announced, Verizon’s $23 billion planned investment in the service, called FiOS, was met by a chorus of skeptics, both on Wall Street and among rivals. Verizon rejected cheaper broadband alternatives and decided to build the fiber system at an estimated cost of about $4,000 for every customer. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RF linx
I use RF Linx as well but that shipping out ground was only if you weren't ordering Tranzeo boxes. Those now ground ship But from Utah. No more next day on those. Steve Barnes Executive Manager PCS-WIN RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service (765)584-2288 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RF linx I've never dealt with them, so I didn't know. Either way...my stuff shipped out ground and I'll have it tomorrow. That is all I wanted. Blair Davis wrote: RF Linx is a little, bitty outfit. But they do good work. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: finally got through, they were all in a meeting.. Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Anyone know how to get through RF linx's voicejail to talk to someone? I have been calling all morning and only get automated crap and then leave a message... Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New Deliberant radios
Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MTI
Who do you guys buy your MTI antennas from? There used to be many, but I can't find hardly anyone that can get me a darn antenna. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MTI
I have three 120 sectors just sitting around...need one? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Who do you guys buy your MTI antennas from? There used to be many, but I can't find hardly anyone that can get me a darn antenna. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MTI
Double radius or streakwave. --- airCloud Communications Jerry Richardson 925-260-4119 Sent Mobile -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:16 PM To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] MTI Who do you guys buy your MTI antennas from? There used to be many, but I can't find hardly anyone that can get me a darn antenna. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MTI
Thanks, but I already have 2 of the 90*, so I'm looking to get two more of the same model or really, 90* 5 GHz horizontal. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MTI I have three 120 sectors just sitting around...need one? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Who do you guys buy your MTI antennas from? There used to be many, but I can't find hardly anyone that can get me a darn antenna. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MTI
Winncom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:14 PM To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] MTI Who do you guys buy your MTI antennas from? There used to be many, but I can't find hardly anyone that can get me a darn antenna. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Costs
If that is what it cost me, I would never be able to afford it. Good thing it only costs me about $1K per sub. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber Costs Interesting arcticle. What so many forget is that Fiber does not just cost $4000 per sub to Verizon, it costs $17 /month per subscriber. There is a big difference. Long term beneift is undisputed. The problem a small provider has to ask is... How do they fund it. Its also important to note though that the $4000/sub accounts for all costs for full Fiber end to end. It can cost much less for a partial hybrid fiber deployment that is cherry picked. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Costs Hmmm... http://www.go-nowires.com/wireless-blog/fios-too-risky/ From the article: When it was announced, Verizon’s $23 billion planned investment in the service, called FiOS, was met by a chorus of skeptics, both on Wall Street and among rivals. Verizon rejected cheaper broadband alternatives and decided to build the fiber system at an estimated cost of about $4,000 for every customer. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios
Deliberant is a good product with outstanding support. Yes I just put so in the field so far they work fine like the 2300 radios do. They have lot more features then the old 2300 radios did. The new units are the same thing as Ligowave gear or the Wiligear. They need to add a few features to the OS but nothing manger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New Deliberant radios ha...that is clever On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. Anyone used the new Deliberant radios (CPE's) yet? I love their new marketing campaign on their site!! Very effective! Wondering what feedback anyone might have with their new ones (the CPE-2's). Good, bad, ugly? Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi
I'm thinking that an MT board with two 2.4b/g radios and a 3.65 radio might make a good solution for a muni wifi? This is strictly hypothetical mond you. Thoughts? Comments? Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 P Please consider the environment before printing this email aircloud_WebTiny_color_white_back.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi
Jerry Richardson wrote: I'm thinking that an MT board with two 2.4b/g radios and a 3.65 radio might make a good solution for a muni wifi? I might suggest some 5GHz N radios as many clients have N these days. Also 2.4 b/g of course. 3.65 can be used for backhaul applications as well as point to multi point, perhaps as a master/slave setup. What kind of coverage area are you looking at? What kind of geography? -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi
Thanks for the reply. We took over and currently operate a small Muni network that was originally built with Vivato panels and access points. AP's connect to the panels via WDS and this reasonably well but Vivato is defunct. In order to continue deployment we started using another manufacturers radios with one 802.11b/g with beam forming + 802.11a backhaul mesh channel. Works very very well within itself but it does not inter-operate with the existing Vivato WDS. The factory is working on trying to resolve the issue but they don't seem real committed to getting it working (maybe that will change). On top of that, with the market the way it is, I get this nagging feeling that they may pull out of the US market leaving me with yet another unsupported radio. Not being one to wait around I am exploring alternate solutions. One idea was to roll my own mesh kits with MikroTik using two b/g + one n radio for client access, and one 3.65 as BH (we are working on getting our license). Seems like a good use of a 5MHz channel as well as spectrum. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi Jerry Richardson wrote: I'm thinking that an MT board with two 2.4b/g radios and a 3.65 radio might make a good solution for a muni wifi? I might suggest some 5GHz N radios as many clients have N these days. Also 2.4 b/g of course. 3.65 can be used for backhaul applications as well as point to multi point, perhaps as a master/slave setup. What kind of coverage area are you looking at? What kind of geography? -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi (OFF LIST)
Jerry, 802.11b/g with beam forming Is that Gonetworks's or Wavion ? (I am not aware of a 3rd mfg. doing outdoor radios with beamforming) Thanks Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi Thanks for the reply. We took over and currently operate a small Muni network that was originally built with Vivato panels and access points. AP's connect to the panels via WDS and this reasonably well but Vivato is defunct. In order to continue deployment we started using another manufacturers radios with one 802.11b/g with beam forming + 802.11a backhaul mesh channel. Works very very well within itself but it does not inter-operate with the existing Vivato WDS. The factory is working on trying to resolve the issue but they don't seem real committed to getting it working (maybe that will change). On top of that, with the market the way it is, I get this nagging feeling that they may pull out of the US market leaving me with yet another unsupported radio. Not being one to wait around I am exploring alternate solutions. One idea was to roll my own mesh kits with MikroTik using two b/g + one n radio for client access, and one 3.65 as BH (we are working on getting our license). Seems like a good use of a 5MHz channel as well as spectrum. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi Jerry Richardson wrote: I'm thinking that an MT board with two 2.4b/g radios and a 3.65 radio might make a good solution for a muni wifi? I might suggest some 5GHz N radios as many clients have N these days. Also 2.4 b/g of course. 3.65 can be used for backhaul applications as well as point to multi point, perhaps as a master/slave setup. What kind of coverage area are you looking at? What kind of geography? -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi (OFF LIST)
Go (nextwave) __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi (OFF LIST) Jerry, 802.11b/g with beam forming Is that Gonetworks's or Wavion ? (I am not aware of a 3rd mfg. doing outdoor radios with beamforming) Thanks Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 7:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi Thanks for the reply. We took over and currently operate a small Muni network that was originally built with Vivato panels and access points. AP's connect to the panels via WDS and this reasonably well but Vivato is defunct. In order to continue deployment we started using another manufacturers radios with one 802.11b/g with beam forming + 802.11a backhaul mesh channel. Works very very well within itself but it does not inter-operate with the existing Vivato WDS. The factory is working on trying to resolve the issue but they don't seem real committed to getting it working (maybe that will change). On top of that, with the market the way it is, I get this nagging feeling that they may pull out of the US market leaving me with yet another unsupported radio. Not being one to wait around I am exploring alternate solutions. One idea was to roll my own mesh kits with MikroTik using two b/g + one n radio for client access, and one 3.65 as BH (we are working on getting our license). Seems like a good use of a 5MHz channel as well as spectrum. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wyble Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 as Mesh on Muni WiFi Jerry Richardson wrote: I'm thinking that an MT board with two 2.4b/g radios and a 3.65 radio might make a good solution for a muni wifi? I might suggest some 5GHz N radios as many clients have N these days. Also 2.4 b/g of course. 3.65 can be used for backhaul applications as well as point to multi point, perhaps as a master/slave setup. What kind of coverage area are you looking at? What kind of geography? -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE
http://www.allcompc.com/ I have done all my cables thru these guys for the last couple years now. No complaints. They will make anything, I have ordered 2 inch mmcx to u.fl before. They make it all custom, just call and tell them what you want. I usually deal with Cathy or Bill. Brian Blair Davis wrote: Thanks! Having taken my deaders apart now I see some with a u.fl pigtail and some with an MMCX or RP-MMCX pigtail. (I always get those two mixed up) I'd like to find a female MMCX or female RP-MMCX to u.fl pigtail to use in these Any ideas where to find those? Anyone? Blair Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I just take two flathead screwdrivers and start in the middle of one of the sides and keep working my way all the way around. Then I re-seal it with some of that black silicone. Don't use the clear silicone it doesn't hold as good. I've probably done 30 of these on out-of-warranty units and it works great. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 9:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE how do you get them open without breaking them? And, maybe the crossroads would work in them? Kurt Fankhauser wrote: RB133 and radio of your choice, costs around $100 and you get more features than Tranzeo and I think better throughput. Only problem with the newer Slim Line series the Rj-45 pigtail is gone since they mount their SBC right up to the hole under the boot so adding an aftermarket board is a problem and I haven't figured out how to do it yet. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE I've hear some are repairing themselves by putting in their alternative boards? I'd like to hear what works best. -RickG On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Blair Davis mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I gave them a ring. They are net doing Tranzeo. Any others out there? Jim Patient wrote: 1-866-439-5469 http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=ezlinxnet userid=ezlinxnet Jim Blair Davis wrote: The ez one I had heard of, but, if either is on here, hopefully, he will see this and drop me a line. Thanks Blair Cameron Kilton wrote: Exlinx is one guy Jack Weinberg is the dude. -Cam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Fixing dead CPE Anybody know who fixes failed CPE? I've ended up with a few Tranzeo units that have died out of warranty and I'd like to see if they can be fixed. Think I've seen him on here ez something... Blair WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Fiber Costs
Is it costing you that considering all costs (last mile, transport, NOC)? Or just your last mile cost? I know an MTU building can be connected /spliced into street fiber for as little as $700 in parts/labor, including only the time start to finish installing it. (not all the beurocracy and planning time) There are numerous respected people in this industry that have pitched an average Fiber deployment to cost around $20/mon per sub over 20 years. That could mean alot of different things. I'd be interested in hearing more about what you deliver for $1000/ sub? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber Costs If that is what it cost me, I would never be able to afford it. Good thing it only costs me about $1K per sub. - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fiber Costs Interesting arcticle. What so many forget is that Fiber does not just cost $4000 per sub to Verizon, it costs $17 /month per subscriber. There is a big difference. Long term beneift is undisputed. The problem a small provider has to ask is... How do they fund it. Its also important to note though that the $4000/sub accounts for all costs for full Fiber end to end. It can cost much less for a partial hybrid fiber deployment that is cherry picked. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:55 PM Subject: [WISPA] Fiber Costs Hmmm... http://www.go-nowires.com/wireless-blog/fios-too-risky/ From the article: When it was announced, Verizon’s $23 billion planned investment in the service, called FiOS, was met by a chorus of skeptics, both on Wall Street and among rivals. Verizon rejected cheaper broadband alternatives and decided to build the fiber system at an estimated cost of about $4,000 for every customer. -- Charles Wyble (818) 280 - 7059 http://charlesnw.blogspot.com CTO Known Element Enterprises / SoCal WiFI project WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.4/1616 - Release Date: 8/16/2008 5:12 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE radios
Only when they break. For me, they only seem to fail after lighting strikes. -RickG On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:09 AM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: You replace all of the power supplies right off the bat? OR only when they break. I understand about the lightning. But it's funny how often the new tranzeo units go out while everything else just keeps running. Thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE radios Marlon, I LOVE my Tranzeo radios. Before using them, I all but gave up on 802.11. In an effort to assist, I dont have the disconnect issues you mention. I've got StarOS on WRAP boards for AP's. I dont have any power supply issues either except from the expected lightning. I use 15 volt units from Prime Electronics which I get for $2.99! --- http://www.primelec.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/vpid/2452565/vpcsid/0/SFV/31734 I hope someone can help with your issues. -RickG On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi All, I really like my Tranzeo CPQ radios. But we're seeing a LOT of power supply failures (and they are too cheap to even warranty, we just buy new ones). Sometimes they don't fully fail either, they go low or something, the injector lights up like it should but the radio just won't work right. What's really a problem is the dang'd Mikrotik to Tranzeo CPQ disconnect problem. It's driving my gamers and business customers nutso. All CPQ radios disconnect and reconnect at the same time, sometimes every few minutes, sometimes every couple of days. This happens when there is an XR2 card in the Mikrotik. Doesn't seem to matter what firmware is on the radios. Did I say that I also really like the MT ap's? They are too complicated to set up, but once that's done they work very well and give me great information on who's doing what on my network. And I am a point and click GUI kinda guy so StarOS is really hard for me to deal with. And I've recently replaced an MT ap with Star, no real difference that I can see as far as the customer experience is concerned. I don't think we're getting the disconnects, but I just can't deal with the management mechanism for Star so I'm not totally sure. Anyway, I tried a couple of the Ubiquity cpe units. I liked the electronic polarization capability. Hated the router config. And, they have both basically failed in just a few months of service. They were still working, but the rx went to pot in them. (19 dB tranzeo had -82 when put in vs. the -97 of the ubiquity when it was pulled out) So, now I have a telecommuter with a Ubiquity radio that's on the fritz, can't use a tranzeo because of the disconnect issue (she works via voip and can't use the phone when it keeps dropping out for a second or two all day long). What are people having good luck with? I can't believe that wifi radios won't really connect to each other correctly at this stage of the game. Some of our manufacturers are getting too lazy I think. I need cheap gear, but mostly I need gear that works. I long for the old Teletronics 2 meg ap's. Some of those from 2000 are still in use today! We never have to touch them! I think I'm gonna set up an MT unit to be a cpe for the one customer. But I have to figure out what to use going forward. Either better ap's or cpe. For AP's I REALLY like the Teletronics 172 units. They are cheap and work very well with either b or g client radios. But they blow ethernet ports far too easily, and they lock up too often. And I've NEVER used a worse AP than the Tranzeo 6000 radios. What a POS those are. Constant lockups! But not at all locations. Sometimes they work pretty well, but usually they just suck. deep sigh Suggestions? marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
