[WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter of seconds on your computer, but you can also do this right on your Xbox 360, bringing it mainstream for

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Michael Baird
I've been using the Netflix service since June, with the Roku box. It has 4 different qualities, plus 2 additional for HD which are supported only on XBox360 until the next few weeks. 500k/1100/1600/2200 for SD 2600/3600 for HD. Regards Michael Baird In case you did not know, recently NetFlix

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Did I interpret your data correctly to mean that if you had a sustained 256Kbps it would work? - Original Message - From: Dennis Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yes, the HD quality is surprising good! Heck, at 1600 or 2200 the shows are real close to DVD. I watch most of it on a 40inch LCD and don't have any issues with quality! -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
1.7 to 2.4 Meg is what I see average. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Michael Baird
Chuck it won't work, here are some more specifics, on the codecs utilized and bandwidth requirements. The bottom two streams 500/1000k are pretty low quality. We are a facilities based CLEC and have done a bit of testing with the Roku's, for product bundles.

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
OK, but if you look at Dennis's data, it appears to me that the average was in the hundreds of K. But maybe I didn't read it correctly. - Original Message - From: Michael Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:07 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Drew Lentz
I have been streaming Netflix movies as well as Hulu and CBS content for quite sometime now on the Xbox using MediaMall's PlayOn. It is a great piece of free (for now) software that lets you interface to major content providers from a laptop to your Xbox 360. The numbers are about the same as the

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Eje Gustafsson
No not Kbps but rather KBps so multiply it all with 8 to get Kbit. From my own checks I see peaks of well over 2.5Mbit with Netflix on highest quality. As much as 3-3.5Mbit as a matter over a 5Min average. / Eje -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Oh, yes, and I give folks crap for the same thing... Too bad, I was getting excited. Thought there was some kind of miracle of compression technologies. - Original Message - From: Eje Gustafsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Lowest quality is so bad IMO that you do not want to watch it on full screen but watch it on a youtube size picture frame and you will have a movie that is in pare to little better then youtube. Highest quality looks like DVD quality and is quite enjoyable. Second to best is alright. The second to

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Now we just need Mikrotik to add a category like "all-p2p" but called "all-video" so I can throttle that too. :) TV belongs on satellite. It's the best use of resources. Travis Microserv Eje Gustafsson wrote: Lowest quality is so bad IMO that you do not want to watch it on full screen

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yep, low stinks. Like I said though, watched a number of movies on it on a 40 inch LCD, looks great! Have had VERY little in hicups, etc. Near DVD quality on the non-HD streams. :) works great. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm seeing 6 meg streams bursts but afterward showing the ~1.5 meg stream average. When starting the stream it detects quality and such, it would do about 2.5 megs for a good 10 seconds. Then the video started (Super High Me in this case) and it did 6 megs for a good 5 minutes. The stream then

[WISPA] Updated White Spaces mapping tool

2008-11-23 Thread Brian Webster
I have updated the White Spaces Google Earth Mapping tool to show ALL of the channels available for Fixed Wireless use. Please go to http://www.wirelessmapping.com/sample_maps.htm to download the latest version. There is also a second link to a file with the analog low power stations that may not

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Travis Johnson
It will be interesting to see how this plays out... the amount of bandwidth required to sustain this type of service is not cost effective. My upstream costs alone are over $50/Mbps. So if someone wants to run a constant 2Mbps stream, my raw cost is $100 per month (not including backhaul,

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 23 Nov 2008, Travis Johnson wrote: It will be interesting to see how this plays out... the amount of bandwidth required to sustain this type of service is not cost effective. My upstream costs alone are over $50/Mbps. So if someone wants to run a constant 2Mbps stream, my raw cost is

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
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Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Drew Lentz
I'm all for open systems. Limiting the amount of bandwidth at any level is, to me, a terrible thing to do. I understand that it doesn't necessarily fit the model as it applies to today's business for many ISPs, but, maybe its time to change the model. This is where the separation of providers

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Scottie Arnett
It will further the digital divide. Rural remote locations will be again left in the boon docks. Where I live, 3 meg DSL is the fastest available connection at $75/mth. Cheapest T1 here is over $600/mth, and fiber? forget it, can't get it unless you want to build about 4 towers just to

Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information

2008-11-23 Thread Drew Lentz
In areas like yours, though, some would argue that is the perfect place for some type of licensed LTE/WiMAX type of service. Even with a Canopy type service it would beat down the doors of the telco offering only 3Mbps of service. As more and more devices have bandwidth requirements, the service