Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm no economist, but isn't the same amount of money entering the 
marketplace either way?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:28 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 In the early 1920's, things got to the point in Germany where it cost 100
 million marks to send a letter across town. Be careful what you wish for.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Oh!!!...you just hit the nail on the head!  If the money is for me...well
 then it's ok.  Someone else and then it's not.  grin

 That's why I'm for the $7k, $20k, $80k (whatever it is) check sent to my
 home address made out to Yours Truly instead!

 Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each see
 fit.

 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15
 Trillion by the time they are all done.

 Seriously.

 For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have yet
 to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far right, and
 we have plenty of both around here, that think any of this bail out is
 worth while.
 I hear, give Americans a free tax year and let us stimulate that way. I
 hear let them fail, it's natural for the weak to fail, and it;s there
 own fault.
 But I just have not heard one person say, I agree what a great idea. And
 I come across a lot of people.


 I like the idea money will be spent on broadband, but not citigroup,
 myself.

 George


 Chuck Bartosch wrote:
 LOL, dude, some pretty trivial math would tell you that's clearly not
 even in the ballpark!

 Maybe if the stimulus were $7.4 trillion, not $740 billion. But, hey,
 what's a factor of 10 or so between friends, eh?

 ;-)

 Chuck

 On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Is it true that the amount of money spent in stimulus plans would
 be equal
 to or less than the government writing every household in America a
 $70k or
 $80k check?

 Something tells me that would have been better use of taxpayer funds
 to
 stimulate the economy rather than what has and is been done so
 far...

 Brad




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 Too bad this isn't really helping much. I am heading to a Public
 Hearing
 right now for our school district. Even with the stimulus money, they
 are still talking about getting rid of 20-30 teachers and counselors
 next school year. And the year after that there may be that many more.
 That's a 10-15% reduction in our school district.

 So now it's looking like we did a $700 Billion dollar loan, and we
 are
 STILL going to have a ton more layoffs and businesses going out of
 business. :(

 Travis
 Microserv

 RickG wrote:
 Where is this headed?
 http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/recovery/factsheet/overview.html
 Is this an income stream possibility for a WISP?
 -RickG




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
So is this something where as part of our network build to a new area, the 
school pays a certain appropriate installation for getting high speed 
Internet to their facility.  The grant pays for it.  We just happen to take 
that extended network segment and build PtMP off of it for our own use?

If we get a broadband grant, perhaps that's the matching 20%?


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From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:13 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] schools

 Where is this headed?
 http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/recovery/factsheet/overview.html
 Is this an income stream possibility for a WISP?
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Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

That one is about as far off as it can get.  I think liberalism is 
interested in equal outcome, not equal opportunity.  It's interested in 
eliminating the poor, bad grades, winners and losers etc.  Liberalism wants 
to make sure you don't loose that house you shouldn't have etc.

flame suit on

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Responded off list, but this is interesting...especially the last
 paragraph...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

 Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Tom Sharples
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 In the early 1920's, things got to the point in Germany where it cost 100
 million marks to send a letter across town. Be careful what you wish for.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Oh!!!...you just hit the nail on the head!  If the money is for me...well
 then it's ok.  Someone else and then it's not.  grin

 That's why I'm for the $7k, $20k, $80k (whatever it is) check sent to my
 home address made out to Yours Truly instead!

 Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each see
 fit.

 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15
 Trillion by the time they are all done.

 Seriously.

 For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have yet
 to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far right, and
 we have plenty of both around here, that think any of this bail out is
 worth while.
 I hear, give Americans a free tax year and let us stimulate that way. I
 hear let them fail, it's natural for the weak to fail, and it;s there
 own fault.
 But I just have not heard one person say, I agree what a great idea. And
 I come across a lot of people.


 I like the idea money will be spent on broadband, but not citigroup,
 myself.

 George


 Chuck Bartosch wrote:
 LOL, dude, some pretty trivial math would tell you that's clearly not
 even in the ballpark!

 Maybe if the stimulus were $7.4 trillion, not $740 billion. But, hey,
 what's a factor of 10 or so between friends, eh?

 ;-)

 Chuck

 On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Is it true that the amount of money spent in stimulus plans would
 be equal
 to or less than the government writing every household in America a
 $70k or
 $80k check?

 Something tells me that would have been better use of taxpayer funds
 to
 stimulate the economy rather than what has and is been done so
 far...

 Brad




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 Too bad this isn't really helping much. I am heading to a Public
 Hearing
 right now for our school district. Even with the stimulus money, they
 are still talking about getting rid of 20-30 teachers and counselors
 next school year. And the year after that there may be that many more.
 That's a 10-15% reduction in our school district.

 So now it's looking like we did a $700 Billion dollar loan, and we
 are
 STILL going to have a ton more layoffs and businesses going out of
 business. :(

 Travis
 Microserv

 RickG wrote:
 Where is this headed?
 http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/recovery/factsheet/overview.html
 Is this an income stream possibility for a WISP?
 -RickG





 
 
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Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread George Rogato
Liberalism is a broad class of political philosophies that considers 
individual liberty and equality to be the most important political goals.[1]

Liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. 
Within liberalism, there are various streams of thought which compete 
over the use of the term liberal and may propose very different 
policies, but they are generally united by their support for 
constitutional liberalism, which encompasses support for: freedom of 
thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of 
law, an individual's right to private property,[2] and a transparent 
system of government.[3][4][5] All liberals, as well as some adherents 
of other political ideologies, support some variant of the form of 
government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, 
where all citizens have equal rights by law.[6]


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
 
 That one is about as far off as it can get.  I think liberalism is 
 interested in equal outcome, not equal opportunity.  It's interested in 
 eliminating the poor, bad grades, winners and losers etc.  Liberalism wants 
 to make sure you don't loose that house you shouldn't have etc.
 
 flame suit on
 
 marlon
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools
 
 
 Responded off list, but this is interesting...especially the last
 paragraph...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

 Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Tom Sharples
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 In the early 1920's, things got to the point in Germany where it cost 100
 million marks to send a letter across town. Be careful what you wish for.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Oh!!!...you just hit the nail on the head!  If the money is for me...well
 then it's ok.  Someone else and then it's not.  grin

 That's why I'm for the $7k, $20k, $80k (whatever it is) check sent to my
 home address made out to Yours Truly instead!

 Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each see
 fit.

 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15
 Trillion by the time they are all done.

 Seriously.

 For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have yet
 to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far right, and
 we have plenty of both around here, that think any of this bail out is
 worth while.
 I hear, give Americans a free tax year and let us stimulate that way. I
 hear let them fail, it's natural for the weak to fail, and it;s there
 own fault.
 But I just have not heard one person say, I agree what a great idea. And
 I come across a lot of people.


 I like the idea money will be spent on broadband, but not citigroup,
 myself.

 George


 Chuck Bartosch wrote:
 LOL, dude, some pretty trivial math would tell you that's clearly not
 even in the ballpark!

 Maybe if the stimulus were $7.4 trillion, not $740 billion. But, hey,
 what's a factor of 10 or so between friends, eh?

 ;-)

 Chuck

 On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Is it true that the amount of money spent in stimulus plans would
 be equal
 to or less than the government writing every household in America a
 $70k or
 $80k check?

 Something tells me that would have been better use of taxpayer funds
 to
 stimulate the economy rather than what has and is been done so
 far...

 Brad




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 Too bad this isn't really helping much. I am heading to a Public
 Hearing
 right now for our school district. Even with the stimulus money, they
 are still talking about getting rid of 20-30 teachers and counselors
 next school year. And the year after that there may be that many more.
 That's a 10-15% reduction in our school district.

 So now it's looking like we did a $700 Billion dollar loan, and we
 are
 STILL going to have a ton more layoffs and businesses going out of
 business. :(

 Travis
 Microserv

 RickG wrote:
 Where is this headed?
 http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/recovery/factsheet/overview.html
 Is this an income stream possibility for a WISP?
 -RickG



 

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
yeah, I read what it said.  It's a VERY white washed and politically correct 
version though.  It's certainly NOT what our current liberalism is here.  If 
liberalism were really about equal opportunity we'd not get punished for 
being successful.  Nor would people be rewarded for failure/bad decisions.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Liberalism is a broad class of political philosophies that considers
 individual liberty and equality to be the most important political 
 goals.[1]

 Liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity.
 Within liberalism, there are various streams of thought which compete
 over the use of the term liberal and may propose very different
 policies, but they are generally united by their support for
 constitutional liberalism, which encompasses support for: freedom of
 thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of
 law, an individual's right to private property,[2] and a transparent
 system of government.[3][4][5] All liberals, as well as some adherents
 of other political ideologies, support some variant of the form of
 government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections,
 where all citizens have equal rights by law.[6]


 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

 That one is about as far off as it can get.  I think liberalism is
 interested in equal outcome, not equal opportunity.  It's interested in
 eliminating the poor, bad grades, winners and losers etc.  Liberalism 
 wants
 to make sure you don't loose that house you shouldn't have etc.

 flame suit on

 marlon

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Responded off list, but this is interesting...especially the last
 paragraph...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

 Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Tom Sharples
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 In the early 1920's, things got to the point in Germany where it cost 
 100
 million marks to send a letter across town. Be careful what you wish 
 for.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Oh!!!...you just hit the nail on the head!  If the money is for 
 me...well
 then it's ok.  Someone else and then it's not.  grin

 That's why I'm for the $7k, $20k, $80k (whatever it is) check sent to 
 my
 home address made out to Yours Truly instead!

 Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each see
 fit.

 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15
 Trillion by the time they are all done.

 Seriously.

 For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have 
 yet
 to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far right, and
 we have plenty of both around here, that think any of this bail out is
 worth while.
 I hear, give Americans a free tax year and let us stimulate that way. I
 hear let them fail, it's natural for the weak to fail, and it;s there
 own fault.
 But I just have not heard one person say, I agree what a great idea. 
 And
 I come across a lot of people.


 I like the idea money will be spent on broadband, but not citigroup,
 myself.

 George


 Chuck Bartosch wrote:
 LOL, dude, some pretty trivial math would tell you that's clearly not
 even in the ballpark!

 Maybe if the stimulus were $7.4 trillion, not $740 billion. But, hey,
 what's a factor of 10 or so between friends, eh?

 ;-)

 Chuck

 On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Is it true that the amount of money spent in stimulus plans would
 be equal
 to or less than the government writing every household in America a
 $70k or
 $80k check?

 Something tells me that would have been better use of taxpayer funds
 to
 stimulate the economy rather than what has and is been done so
 far...

 Brad




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 Too bad this isn't really helping much. I am heading to a Public
 Hearing
 right now for our school district. Even with the stimulus money, they
 are still talking about getting rid 

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread Jeff Broadwick
If you really want to get your head spinning, the labels are mean the
opposite overseas.  Classical economic liberalism is today's United States
conservative, and vice versa.

Jeff
   

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of George Rogato
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:53 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

Liberalism is a broad class of political philosophies that considers
individual liberty and equality to be the most important political goals.[1]

Liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. 
Within liberalism, there are various streams of thought which compete over
the use of the term liberal and may propose very different policies, but
they are generally united by their support for constitutional liberalism,
which encompasses support for: freedom of thought and speech, limitations on
the power of governments, the rule of law, an individual's right to private
property,[2] and a transparent system of government.[3][4][5] All liberals,
as well as some adherents of other political ideologies, support some
variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and
fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[6]


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
 
 That one is about as far off as it can get.  I think liberalism is 
 interested in equal outcome, not equal opportunity.  It's interested 
 in eliminating the poor, bad grades, winners and losers etc.  
 Liberalism wants to make sure you don't loose that house you shouldn't
have etc.
 
 flame suit on
 
 marlon
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools
 
 
 Responded off list, but this is interesting...especially the last 
 paragraph...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

 Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Tom Sharples
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 In the early 1920's, things got to the point in Germany where it cost 
 100 million marks to send a letter across town. Be careful what you wish
for.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Oh!!!...you just hit the nail on the head!  If the money is for 
 me...well then it's ok.  Someone else and then it's not.  grin

 That's why I'm for the $7k, $20k, $80k (whatever it is) check sent 
 to my home address made out to Yours Truly instead!

 Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each 
 see fit.

 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15 
 Trillion by the time they are all done.

 Seriously.

 For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have 
 yet to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far 
 right, and we have plenty of both around here, that think any of 
 this bail out is worth while.
 I hear, give Americans a free tax year and let us stimulate that 
 way. I hear let them fail, it's natural for the weak to fail, and 
 it;s there own fault.
 But I just have not heard one person say, I agree what a great idea. 
 And I come across a lot of people.


 I like the idea money will be spent on broadband, but not citigroup, 
 myself.

 George


 Chuck Bartosch wrote:
 LOL, dude, some pretty trivial math would tell you that's clearly 
 not even in the ballpark!

 Maybe if the stimulus were $7.4 trillion, not $740 billion. But, 
 hey, what's a factor of 10 or so between friends, eh?

 ;-)

 Chuck

 On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Is it true that the amount of money spent in stimulus plans 
 would be equal to or less than the government writing every 
 household in America a $70k or $80k check?

 Something tells me that would have been better use of taxpayer 
 funds to stimulate the economy rather than what has and is been 
 done so far...

 Brad




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:34 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 Too bad this isn't really helping much. I am heading to a Public 
 Hearing right now for our school district. Even with the stimulus 
 money, they are still talking about getting rid of 20-30 teachers 
 and counselors next school year. And the year after that there may 
 be that 

Re: [WISPA] schools

2009-03-11 Thread George Rogato
I think they are labels, it's the old divide and conquer. We call 
ourselves left and right and then fight about it, all the while our 
politicians, both left and right, have a good old time trying to figure 
out how to get more tax revenue out of us while having a good old time 
with our money.



Jeff Broadwick wrote:
 If you really want to get your head spinning, the labels are mean the
 opposite overseas.  Classical economic liberalism is today's United States
 conservative, and vice versa.
 
 Jeff

 
 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:53 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools
 
 Liberalism is a broad class of political philosophies that considers
 individual liberty and equality to be the most important political goals.[1]
 
 Liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. 
 Within liberalism, there are various streams of thought which compete over
 the use of the term liberal and may propose very different policies, but
 they are generally united by their support for constitutional liberalism,
 which encompasses support for: freedom of thought and speech, limitations on
 the power of governments, the rule of law, an individual's right to private
 property,[2] and a transparent system of government.[3][4][5] All liberals,
 as well as some adherents of other political ideologies, support some
 variant of the form of government known as liberal democracy, with open and
 fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law.[6]
 
 
 Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

 That one is about as far off as it can get.  I think liberalism is 
 interested in equal outcome, not equal opportunity.  It's interested 
 in eliminating the poor, bad grades, winners and losers etc.  
 Liberalism wants to make sure you don't loose that house you shouldn't
 have etc.
 flame suit on

 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Responded off list, but this is interesting...especially the last 
 paragraph...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

 Brad

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Tom Sharples
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:29 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 In the early 1920's, things got to the point in Germany where it cost 
 100 million marks to send a letter across town. Be careful what you wish
 for.
 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools


 Oh!!!...you just hit the nail on the head!  If the money is for 
 me...well then it's ok.  Someone else and then it's not.  grin

 That's why I'm for the $7k, $20k, $80k (whatever it is) check sent 
 to my home address made out to Yours Truly instead!

 Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each 
 see fit.

 Brad



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of George Rogato
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools

 I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15 
 Trillion by the time they are all done.

 Seriously.

 For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have 
 yet to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far 
 right, and we have plenty of both around here, that think any of 
 this bail out is worth while.
 I hear, give Americans a free tax year and let us stimulate that 
 way. I hear let them fail, it's natural for the weak to fail, and 
 it;s there own fault.
 But I just have not heard one person say, I agree what a great idea. 
 And I come across a lot of people.


 I like the idea money will be spent on broadband, but not citigroup, 
 myself.

 George


 Chuck Bartosch wrote:
 LOL, dude, some pretty trivial math would tell you that's clearly 
 not even in the ballpark!

 Maybe if the stimulus were $7.4 trillion, not $740 billion. But, 
 hey, what's a factor of 10 or so between friends, eh?

 ;-)

 Chuck

 On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Brad Belton wrote:

 Is it true that the amount of money spent in stimulus plans 
 would be equal to or less than the government writing every 
 household in America a $70k or $80k check?

 Something tells me that would have been better use of taxpayer 
 funds to stimulate the economy rather than what has and is been 
 done so far...

 Brad




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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
 [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 

Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Now that I'm a WISPA member, where can I find more information on this?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:27 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: RE: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 There was an excellent discussion of the E-Rate process at the ISP-CEO
 meeting in San Jose (at ISPCON) and a lot of follow up information on the
 Wispa Members list.  Yet another reason to join!  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of David Wilson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 Ladies and Gentlemen:  Could someone provide an explanation of the E-Rate
 process?

 Specifically, I would like to understand the application process (front
 end) and then the spending (back end) terms and conditions.

 Thanks in advance for the effort.

 All the best,

 Dave Wilson
 Western Regional Sales Manager
 Colubris Networks
 778 Dorothea Avenue
 San Marcos, CA 92069
 USA

 Work: (760) 481-7485
 Mobile: (760) 574-1749
 Fax: (716) 809-2637
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Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Scott Piehn
http://www.usac.org/sl/providers/step01/

Scott Piehn
We are in Illinois also, would be willing to help if you have problems


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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process


 Now that I'm a WISPA member, where can I find more information on this?


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 From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:27 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 There was an excellent discussion of the E-Rate process at the ISP-CEO
 meeting in San Jose (at ISPCON) and a lot of follow up information on the
 Wispa Members list.  Yet another reason to join!  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of David Wilson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 Ladies and Gentlemen:  Could someone provide an explanation of the E-Rate
 process?

 Specifically, I would like to understand the application process (front
 end) and then the spending (back end) terms and conditions.

 Thanks in advance for the effort.

 All the best,

 Dave Wilson
 Western Regional Sales Manager
 Colubris Networks
 778 Dorothea Avenue
 San Marcos, CA 92069
 USA

 Work: (760) 481-7485
 Mobile: (760) 574-1749
 Fax: (716) 809-2637
 Email: david_wil...@cox.net
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Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Indeed.

I'm going through that stuff, but how everyone was making it sound before, 
it was a big PITA to setup and use.

Was it really that difficult?

Does the state have something similar?  I think I heard some do.

How useful has it been in getting clients?  How much does it really save 
them?


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--
From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:30 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 http://www.usac.org/sl/providers/step01/

 Scott Piehn
 We are in Illinois also, would be willing to help if you have problems


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process


 Now that I'm a WISPA member, where can I find more information on this?


 -
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 From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:27 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 There was an excellent discussion of the E-Rate process at the ISP-CEO
 meeting in San Jose (at ISPCON) and a lot of follow up information on 
 the
 Wispa Members list.  Yet another reason to join!  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of David Wilson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 Ladies and Gentlemen:  Could someone provide an explanation of the 
 E-Rate
 process?

 Specifically, I would like to understand the application process (front
 end) and then the spending (back end) terms and conditions.

 Thanks in advance for the effort.

 All the best,

 Dave Wilson
 Western Regional Sales Manager
 Colubris Networks
 778 Dorothea Avenue
 San Marcos, CA 92069
 USA

 Work: (760) 481-7485
 Mobile: (760) 574-1749
 Fax: (716) 809-2637
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Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Dennis Burgess
last time I heard, false.. not enough ram.

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Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Blair Davis




A standard NS2/5 doesn't have the memory to run MT.

What is this about an NS3?

Cameron Kilton wrote:

  Has anybody heard as to when they are shipping?

Also, I thought I noticed something go through the lists that is WAS
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Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread eje
NS3 is currently special order. 1k minimum order when I spoke with Ubnt about a 
week or two ago. 

/Eje
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Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread os10rules
What about the PicoStation?

On Mar 11, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

 last time I heard, false.. not enough ram.

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Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

2009-03-11 Thread Scott Piehn
from the site I gave you

SPIN # for you means a school can file e-rate to get money from the erate 
people (think is the state)

wasn't hard, just took a little time, file this form, wait a month, file 
that form, every year, file a form.  etc.  not hard.  Forms are only 1 or 2 
pages.  not hard or time consuming, just something more to do.  We don't 
file erate for the schools.  There is definitely a market for that.  If you 
come across a school/library in Illinois that isn't filing for erate, you 
can make some money off filing the paperwork for the school.  That gets 
allot harder and time consuming.  Many schools use someone just for their 
erate filing

For schools and libraries.  erate/SPIN is all I am aware of

Getting clients.  Hasn't been helpful in GETTING clients.  required to keep 
current clients.  We also don't heavily market, so proactive sales may have 
a different point of view.

Savings depends on how poor the town is.  School/Library reimbursement is 
based on school lunch program in the town
reimbursement is based on how many kids in the school eat free/reduced 
lunch.  around 50% of kids eat free/reduced =  State pays 75% of 
communications bills. (or whatever else they get qualified for)

Scott



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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process


 Indeed.

 I'm going through that stuff, but how everyone was making it sound before,
 it was a big PITA to setup and use.

 Was it really that difficult?

 Does the state have something similar?  I think I heard some do.

 How useful has it been in getting clients?  How much does it really save
 them?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 http://www.usac.org/sl/providers/step01/

 Scott Piehn
 We are in Illinois also, would be willing to help if you have problems


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 11:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] E-Rate Process


 Now that I'm a WISPA member, where can I find more information on this?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:27 PM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 There was an excellent discussion of the E-Rate process at the ISP-CEO
 meeting in San Jose (at ISPCON) and a lot of follow up information on
 the
 Wispa Members list.  Yet another reason to join!  :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of David Wilson
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 6:30 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] E-Rate Process

 Ladies and Gentlemen:  Could someone provide an explanation of the
 E-Rate
 process?

 Specifically, I would like to understand the application process (front
 end) and then the spending (back end) terms and conditions.

 Thanks in advance for the effort.

 All the best,

 Dave Wilson
 Western Regional Sales Manager
 Colubris Networks
 778 Dorothea Avenue
 San Marcos, CA 92069
 USA

 Work: (760) 481-7485
 Mobile: (760) 574-1749
 Fax: (716) 809-2637
 Email: david_wil...@cox.net
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Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
http://ubnt.com/products/nano.php
 
They announced it not long ago. I want it to ship and I want to put
MikroTik on it.. :-) 
 
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Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik
 
A standard NS2/5 doesn't have the memory to run MT.

What is this about an NS3?

Cameron Kilton wrote: 
Has anybody heard as to when they are shipping?
 
Also, I thought I noticed something go through the lists that is WAS
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Re: [WISPA] NS3/MikroTik

2009-03-11 Thread Cameron Kilton
Do you know if is 1k as in units or dollars :) I'll take a $1000
worth times 2 :) 

-Cameron

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NS3 is currently special order. 1k minimum order when I spoke with Ubnt
about a week or two ago. 

/Eje
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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

2009-03-11 Thread RickG
Watch out! Next you'll be getting a paypal account! :)
-RickG

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Marlon K. Schafer 
o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 For what it's worth to anyone, Jerry was a HUGE help.  I'd have NEVER
 figured out what went wrong with my installation and I'd still be trying to
 figure out why what I was supposed to see isn't what I was seeing.

 We got far enough to create a map that looked pretty reasonable.

 In a couple of hours Jerry had me doing what most people say took them all
 day or more!

 Thanks again Jerry!

 laters,
 marlon

  - Original Message -
  From: Brian Rohrbacher
  To: WISPA General List
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:47 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile


  Hey, you up for training another guy on radio mobile?  I need a little
 help.  I have spent a few days wandering around in the program, so I feel a
 little better with it, at least good enough to take in some info if you
 could show me.

  Brian

  Jerry Richardson wrote:
 I'll get you from zero to terrain analysis in about an hour.

 You'll need to get your SRTM data loaded first - do you know how to do
 that?

 We can use ZOHO Web Meeting.

 Price 100.00 paid via PayPal

 __

 airCloud Communications
 Broadband for Business
 Public and Private WiFi

 Jerry Richardson
 VP Operations
 925-260-4119
 _

 ConsuWISP
 RF Topographical Coverage Maps
 Network Optimization and Planning
 Network Design and Troubleshooting
 Installer and Technician Training

 Please consider the environment before printing this email


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:54 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile

 I don't have time (or the desire) to wade through a bunch of
 documentation.

 I'll pay someone for their time.

 thanks,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile


  Uhm...ya...

 Try this...

 http://www.pizon.org/radio-mobile-tutorial/index.html

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
 --- Henry Spencer


 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

Hi All,

 I need to learn how to use this program.  I can't even figure out how
  to
  get
 started with it (less than user friendly isn't it!) though.  Anyone
 willing
 to spend some time on the phone and help me figure out the basics?

 Shoot me your number and a good time to call.

 thanks,
 marlon






  
 
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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

2009-03-11 Thread Jerry Richardson
Ha! He has one

Now to send off part of the payment to Rodger :-) 
 
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Jerry Richardson 
airCloud Communications

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:12 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

Watch out! Next you'll be getting a paypal account! :) -RickG

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Marlon K. Schafer
o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 For what it's worth to anyone, Jerry was a HUGE help.  I'd have NEVER 
 figured out what went wrong with my installation and I'd still be 
 trying to figure out why what I was supposed to see isn't what I was
seeing.

 We got far enough to create a map that looked pretty reasonable.

 In a couple of hours Jerry had me doing what most people say took them

 all day or more!

 Thanks again Jerry!

 laters,
 marlon

  - Original Message -
  From: Brian Rohrbacher
  To: WISPA General List
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:47 PM
  Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile


  Hey, you up for training another guy on radio mobile?  I need a 
 little help.  I have spent a few days wandering around in the program,

 so I feel a little better with it, at least good enough to take in 
 some info if you could show me.

  Brian

  Jerry Richardson wrote:
 I'll get you from zero to terrain analysis in about an hour.

 You'll need to get your SRTM data loaded first - do you know how to do

 that?

 We can use ZOHO Web Meeting.

 Price 100.00 paid via PayPal

 __

 airCloud Communications
 Broadband for Business
 Public and Private WiFi

 Jerry Richardson
 VP Operations
 925-260-4119
 _

 ConsuWISP
 RF Topographical Coverage Maps
 Network Optimization and Planning
 Network Design and Troubleshooting
 Installer and Technician Training

 Please consider the environment before printing this email


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 6:54 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile

 I don't have time (or the desire) to wade through a bunch of 
 documentation.

 I'll pay someone for their time.

 thanks,
 marlon

 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 11:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] radio mobile


  Uhm...ya...

 Try this...

 http://www.pizon.org/radio-mobile-tutorial/index.html

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
 --- Henry Spencer


 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Marlon K. Schafer
 o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

Hi All,

 I need to learn how to use this program.  I can't even figure out how
  to
  get
 started with it (less than user friendly isn't it!) though.  Anyone 
 willing to spend some time on the phone and help me figure out the 
 basics?

 Shoot me your number and a good time to call.

 thanks,
 marlon






  
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[WISPA] Fw: Allen Marsalis -- was -- Re: OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

2009-03-11 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
fyi
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Allen Marsalis gmail3...@bandwise.com
To: 'Marlon K. Schafer' o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: Allen Marsalis -- was -- Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile


 LMAO, I have a mess of routerboards and radios in my garage, in the back 
 of
 my SUV, up in my attic, in boxes behind my desk  All over the place! 
 I
 installed a PtP bridge for a hospital just last month...  Butch Evans and 
 I
 built a Mikrotik VPN together last week

 Just don't ask me to offer Internet access!!  I just couldn't take it!!

 No, I'm quite content building websites and custom apps... And building 
 the
 occational private wireless network.  I might be doing some PtP stuff in
 texas for this company...  www.electsolve.com

 I would rejoin the wisp community if yall liked forum software instead of
 old fashioned list servers.  (ducking)  I know I'm missing out on a lot. 
 I
 heard Mac had a heart attack.  I think about Bob all the time, especially
 during the beginning of crawfish season.  Come to think about it, ya'll 
 are
 missing out on a lot too!

 Anyway, It's good to hear from you Marlon!  I trust you are giving those
 telcos hell  :D

 Allen
 a...@bandwise.com
 www.bandwise.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Marlon K. Schafer [mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:18 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: a...@bandwise.com
 Subject: Allen Marsalis -- was -- Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST Re: radio mobile

 Hey Allen,

 Your name has come up yet again!  When are you gonna buy a
 couple of radios and come back to the only job you've ever
 been good at??  lol marlon


 




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