Re: [WISPA] Fault tolerant tower deployment

2009-10-30 Thread Scott Reed
$149 in qty 1, 119 in qty 10. Chuck Profito wrote: Their $135 against $119. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions - paint overspray on solar panels

2009-10-30 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Lacquer thinner??? Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:37 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Fault tolerant tower deployment

2009-10-30 Thread jp
Just a little mad. Antennas and cable do fail. That's something you need to consider in your fault tolerance. We've seen stuff fail from pac wireless, gabriel, superpass, etc.. The whole price range. We've also seen MTI ones fail when struck by lightning. As far as sectors go, there is often

[WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch. Oct 27 08:12:18.407 EST: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface

Re: [WISPA] Fault tolerant tower deployment

2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
OK, I've got a customer that's already in love with that controller. Anyone know of something that'll give temp and pressure readouts? The farmers are gonna go nuts for these things. marlon - Original Message - From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com To: 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 09:14, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on topic because its connected to a wireless link. :-) What does this tell everybody??? Its from a Cisco 2960 switch.

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Jason Hensley
Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable to me, but of course, many other possibilities. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
So this is showing a hard disconnect? No chance the port was shut off? Any chance its a bad GBIC ? Tnx -B- Jason Hensley wrote: Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable to me, but of course, many

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Bob, This shows the port simply going up and down. And noting more. Is this a Fiber Port ? Or Copper ? If copper, then the wire needs to be tested, (no loose connector, right kind of cable, cat6, and the cable not exceeding 300ft,etc.) If it is fiber then, check the fiber, clean the fiber,

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Nick Huanca
show int gi0/21 cou err This could show if there are any errors and what type they are. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Jason Hensley ja...@jaggartech.comwrote: Don't know that there's much more you could get from this other than just up/down. Seems like a strong possibility of a bad cable

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Nick Huanca
If you're seeing carrier-sens or alignment errors things like duplex could be the issue. Most common issue is cable crimp or continuity on the line. These will show up with input errors, etc. On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Nick Huanca n...@greataukwireless.comwrote: show int gi0/21 cou err

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I've had that happen here when I picked up a LOT of RF on an ethernet cable. I've also seen it when a device didn't auto negotiate correctly with a Cisco switch (they seem to suck). I now force all of my Cisco switches to a set port speed rather than allowing auto negotiation. Just for kicks,

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Kevin Neal
Does the wireless link by chance have the rapid port shutdown feature? If so, you may have a wireless link issue. -Kevin On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Sorry guys. I know its a little OT but I am the RF guy, not the network guy. But its kind of on

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
To All, OK Its a fiber interface. The system has been working fine. Configuration is this: 2960 --- fiber --- Gig Radio 60ghz Gig Radio ---fiber 2960 The interface went down twice in the same day. The radio never went down. the fiber tests fine and no one has screwed with

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Its fiber. And I would think if it was an autonegotiate issue it would have been intermittent all along. It has been operating pretty nuch error free other than this event. But I guess I could try the ferrite beads on the fiber. Hey..It wouldn't hurt. :-P Tnx Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bret Clark
How close are these links? We find that at 0.10 in/hr of rain fall will cause our 60GHz link to drop and because of the Ethernet follows Wireless setting this also drops our Ethernet connection, normally we only see this in hard rain. On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 10:55 -0400, Bob Moldashel wrote: To

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions - paint overspray on solar panels

2009-10-30 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks, I think I'll give this a try first, maybe try a plastic pot scrubber with it. Randy Jerry Richardson wrote: It's likely water base in which warm soapy water and a squeeqee will suffice. Don't use anything abrasive. If it's oil base, it may still come off with warm soapy water as

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices. Did any of you show up during the outage? (I assume yes but have to ask) marlon - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah Yeah Yeah grin I've seen the flaky autonegociate thing do this on 10/100 cables. Just another thing to check on. Easy fix too marlon - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 7:57

Re: [WISPA] Fault tolerant tower deployment

2009-10-30 Thread Mike
Have you ever used diplexers at each end of a coax run? I am liking that idea for a couple repeater sites. One LMR 900 would be half the price of two. All the repeater sites have antennae at different frequencies. Mike At 09:30 PM 10/29/2009, Marlon wrote: How high is the tower this is all

Re: [WISPA] powering finicky mikrotiks on 24v solar

2009-10-30 Thread Randy Cosby
Following up on this topic, I've received a couple suggestions for dealing with this on existing equipment. From Mikrotik Support: You should do the following, cut positive wire from the battery and add diode like this

Re: [WISPA] Fault tolerant tower deployment

2009-10-30 Thread Mike
Chuck, Have you written any scripts to automate those din relays based on input from another application? Like if a radio or router becomes unreachable, throw relays to take the bad one out of line and put the backup one in? You've gotten me thinking ... Mike At 10:20 PM 10/29/2009, Chuck

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
They are a block away. The rain was light and only occurred for a few hours that day. It rained like hell over the weekend without a hiccup. We also have 7 other 60 Ghz hops within the same 10 block radius with longer paths and they did not hiccup during the same time period. This link is

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
No Marlon K. Schafer wrote: That almost sounds like someone *physically* unplugging the devices. Did any of you show up during the outage? (I assume yes but have to ask) marlon - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Eric Rogers
One thing, I don't know what kind of RF backhauls you are using, but the Motorola PTP radios have a feature that disconnect the Ethernet briefly to reset any Spanning Tree functions on the switch. Check the radios and see if they are dropping briefly, causing the Ethernet disconnects. Eric

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Perhaps this is a case of vandalism? Especially since it only happened during the time when people would be in the building. Or maybe the cleaning lady bumped something? marlon - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

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2009-10-30 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
Anyone know what the deal is with Defacto Wireless? I can't seem to get in touch with anyone and my order never shipped. They've always been good to work with in the past. Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com

[WISPA] Lead For Alvarion WiMAX CPE's

2009-10-30 Thread 3-dB Networks
Hopefully this helps someone! Qty 105 available from them I believe. Please contact Christine... she does not work for our company (or have any ties to it) Part number: BMAX-CPE-ODU-PRO-SA-3.5 BreezeMAX PRO CPE (outdoor WiMAX devices) Comprised of an Outdoor radio unit (ODU) and indoor

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni

2009-10-30 Thread ccrum
It's not as trivial as you might think. Getting those things to couple just right is almost an art. If you've ever taken one of those things apart, you'll know what I'm talking about. Most of the ones I've seen appear to have the dielectric between the striplines hand cut and the thicknesses

Re: [WISPA] Fault tolerant tower deployment

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Profito
No, I'm not a coder, I'm a farm boy. Our definition of tower, 2 or more way into it, a repeater just one. So, if you know it's down, log in and turn one off and one on. Marlon, educate me, why do the farmers want these? Starting irrigation pumps? -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Its on a commercial rooftop on both sides. Ladies from the cleaning union don't go up there. The cabinets are locked. The rooftops are alarmed and on CCTV on both sides. And it was a crappy day so nobody was out there sunning themselves. And it hasn't happened since. :-) I figured it out

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Brad Belton
I still gotta side with Marlon on this one...cleaning ladies WILL cause CRC errors. This is networking 101 Bob, I'm disappointed in you...sigh Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] Suggestions - paint overspray on solar panels

2009-10-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
I have a black glass stove - plastic pot scrubber scratched the hell out of it. Soft bristle brush would be safer. You could get a car wash brush with a long handle - should make it easier to reach across the panels. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

[WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Profito
From CEA Smart Brief today: Nintendo said to be integrating Netflix into Wii console Nintendo is developing a way to integrate Netflix streaming into its Wii gaming console, according to a published report. The system could be available by the end of this year, or Nintendo may wait until early

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Andy Trimmell
Playstation just released that they will be adding Netflix to their console by Christmas. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Scott Carullo
On there now just need disk Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 30, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: Playstation just released that they will be adding Netflix to their console by Christmas. -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] OT Question....

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Been there Done that. Had a power supply under a desk running a system once. We thought the customer was shutting it off every couple of weekends. Turned out to be cleaning people pushing the vacuum under the desk would hit the on/off switch. Turned the power supply to the side..No

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread David E. Smith
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:00, Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com wrote: Nintendo said to be integrating Netflix into Wii console Nintendo is developing a way to integrate Netflix streaming into its Wii gaming console, according to a published report. The system could be available by the

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread eje
All new Samsung blueray players also support this. Some models only support Netflix and Pandora but some of them also support Blockbuster and youtube. You also start seing indications of TV devices with this streaming support Samsung again seems to be on the forefront. Streaming Netflix,

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Eric Tykwinski
I remember hearing about someone testing this out previously on WISPA or NANOG before. Here's the link for his results: http://www.linktechs.net/netflix.asp Sincerely, Eric Tykwinski TrueNet, Inc. P: 610-429-8300 F: 610-429-3222 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Steve Barnes
Just another reason why Metered internet is the way to go. Base price Plus anything over XGb. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service Character cannot be developed in ease and quiet. Only through experience of trial and suffering can the soul be strengthened, vision cleared, ambition

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Scott Carullo
I have one of these it does pandora too I love it Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On Oct 30, 2009, at 1:33 PM, e...@wisp-router.com e...@wisp- router.com wrote: All new Samsung blueray players also support this. Some models only support Netflix and Pandora but some of

[WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Profito
It's Spooky Funny Friday It's time to post your Spooky Tech Tails for all to shake and quiver at. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] LAST CHANCE TO VOTE

2009-10-30 Thread Forbes Mercy
Thank you so much for doubling the number of people who have filled out the very short survey about a possible upcoming Trade Show by WISPA. I'm extending the deadline one day to the 31st until 5PM PT so we may provide the maximum opportunity for you to tell us what you would like to see in a

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Josh Luthman
It's Friday about 2PM. Three of your customers in the same town go down suddenly. They haven't called and it's been almost 20 minutes. Terrorist attack??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible,

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Rick Harnish
Wide Scale Power Outage. Boo! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Halloween request It's Friday about 2PM. Three of your

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Ryan Spott
HA! During storms, Nagios will freak out that I have 50 customers down here and there.. The SMS messages on my phone get me up to check. After a brief panic I realize the customers are the victims of a localized power outage! The SMS messages telling me the customers are back on usually lull me

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Depends on your definition of wide scale. The town has maybe 30 buildings total. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Mike
Pandora.com is my favorite web site. I can't exist as a purveyor of rural broadband under the present rules if HD video becomes common in my customer's home. How would ANY wireless company, using available spectrum accommodate 20% or more of their customer base tying up air time to transport

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Profito
Can't you just see Marlon rubbing his hands together with that Scrooge low chuckle! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and

Re: [WISPA] Nintendo and Wii

2009-10-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Slacker.com is just as good - had the Blackberry app first. Pandora favors the iPhone therefor I favor Slacker. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Not exactly Troy, but... US Air Force Base 1 Wright Patterson Afb # A271, Wright Ptrsn Afb, OH Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. ---

Re: [WISPA] FW: Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Josh Luthman
*facepalm* Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Faisal Imtiaz

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Terrorist Attack???Near Troy Ohio??? I don't think so :-) Josh Luthman wrote: It's Friday about 2PM. Three of your customers in the same town go down suddenly. They haven't called and it's been almost 20 minutes. Terrorist attack??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Mike Hammett
It'd be more covert... who would suspect? :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:49 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Steve Barnes
Does this work: 4:00 Friday afternoon Young girl takes out power line with her car. That Power line feeds your main Tower that feeds 4 other towers. 30 Min later when the batter backup goes down 50 clients call and want to know what your going to do to get them back-up before the weekend.

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Profito
Oh Yeah something similar like that happen to us last week on one of our key towers, yes it qualifies for wispa horror, but not spooky. (We put an additional deepcycle onto the Triplite.) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf

Re: [WISPA] Sorry..Long Story

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
WOW. I HATE Bees I bet that was fun when you opened that up! Reminds me of when I installed a system in North Carolina about 15 years ago. We installed some equipment in a communications shed (and I mean shed!) at the base of a tower. Picture this 300' guyed tower in the middle of a

Re: [WISPA] Sorry..Long Story

2009-10-30 Thread Chuck Profito
What a great horror story! You are a great story teller! I'm still laughing. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Sorry..Long

Re: [WISPA] Halloween request

2009-10-30 Thread RickG
I have a nice rat snake at one of my towers keeping the rodents at bay. That is some wasp nest! I had one in an enclosure too but not that big! Did the board still work? What to do about those pesky things? I got stung 3 times this year and several near misses! -RickG On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 2:43

Re: [WISPA] Sorry..Long Story

2009-10-30 Thread RickG
Bob, thats the most you've written in a long time! Great story! -RickG On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: WOW. I HATE Bees  I bet that was fun when you opened that up! Reminds me of when I installed a system in North Carolina about 15 years ago.  We

Re: [WISPA] Sorry..Long Story

2009-10-30 Thread Bob Moldashel
Yeah...Thanks .Its funny now. It wasn't then. :-) -B- RickG wrote: Bob, thats the most you've written in a long time! Great story! -RickG On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Bob Moldashel lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: WOW. I HATE Bees I bet that was fun when you opened that up!

Re: [WISPA] Verizon fiber

2009-10-30 Thread Scottie Arnett
Did you offer to buy the equipment needed to break into? Not unlike big carriers to WAY over quote equipment for you to join? Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed,

Re: [WISPA] More FCC news

2009-10-30 Thread Scottie Arnett
Typical, how many can believe that these guys pushing this: The plan would involve the FCC buying spectrum back from TV folk and then auctioning it off to wireless folk make at least a $100,000 clear a year? Plus the lobbyist and what they make? We pay their salaries as American citizens! Most