Re: [WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

[RickG]

I used to like Hawaii until I went to Fiji :)

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

> Aloha Broadband, a WISP in Hawaii that runs 100% StarOS,  was one of the
> first 18 companies to receive broadband stimulus money.   Looks like the
> total scope of the project was also a lot more reasonable than some of
> the other ones.
>
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> http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jgqG0W8KNsbeVueTYPRDKYHqy8twD9CLQMJ02
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Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

[RickG]

LOL! Maybe they want to be like Tranzeo!

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Robert West wrote:

> I have one of those too, but it was "my fault".  The advice from UBNT to
> fix
> the issue of them constantly resetting due to the lack of clearance around
> the reset button was to "enlarge the hole".  I enlarged it and the reset
> button popped out.  I just figured "Problem solved!".
>
> Bob-
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> Behalf Of RickG
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.
>
> LOL! I just had a Bullet2 that is missing the reset button! -RickG
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy Parr  wrote:
>
> > 2010/1/6 Robert West :
> > > Was out last night at 11:30, up on top of a grain bin trying to figure
> > out
> > > why my network was dropping out.  Using UBNT for the backhaul in this
> > > section so I was using the Ubiquiti Discovery tool.  I would see NO
> UBNT
> > > equipment, then I'd see a few then all then none, etc.  Finally traced
> it
> > > down to a Bullet5 M HP.  The thing was in a constant reset mode but not
> > one
> > > I'd seen before.  Some of the early units (and this is an early unit)
> > would
> > > have the reset button stuck in because of the lack of clearance around
> > the
> > > hole that the reset button is in..  but this one, the RSSI lights were
> > > pegged to the max but that's normal on this install.  I Could "see" the
> > > signal with my laptop but couldn't talk to the unit through the lan.  I
> > took
> > > the antenna off of it and the RSSI stayed all the way pegged.  Tried to
> > > reset it, no go.  Finally went down to the van, got another Bullet,
> > replaced
> > > it and configured it all the while fighting the wind..  Shsh...
> took
> > it
> > > home and when I fired it up I lost all the 5ghz signal from my other
> > > equipment in the room.  Tried other channels, all gone.  My guess is,
> the
> > > Bullet was stuck in some some sort of loop and was broadcasting all
> > across
> > > the spectrum at once.  That would explain why, out in the field, I
> would
> > > lose everything like a roller coaster.  After about an hour of warming
> up
> > I
> > > was able to reset it, flash the firmware just to be sure it wasn't a
> > > firmware issue and set it out in the cold to test it.  Working fine
> this
> > > morning as a test unit but I've never seen one blast the entire
> spectrum
> > at
> > > once.  Or at least all the channels in such a quick succession.
> >
> > Is this the thread where we try to one up each other with the odd
> > things that our Ubiquiti gear does? If so, I had a Nanostation talking
> > to a Rocket, both in bridge mode, with Mikrotik's on the wired side at
> > both ends, showing up as a hop in a traceroute. Traceroute would show
> > other hosts on the network (correctly) then the MT on the Rocket end,
> > then the Nanostation, and then the MT on the Nanostation end. I double
> > and triple checked that the radios were set as bridges.
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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

[RickG]

While I'm on a roll...Butch, I appreciate our input to this list as well!
-RickG

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Butch Evans  wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 21:19 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
> > Ain't that the truth!  Bob M. taught me both things I know about
> wireless!!!
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> I just wanna know who taught you math!  :-)  I know Bob's too smart to
> be the one responsible...  (SOME of you know what I'm talkin' about...)
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[WISPA] StarOS Operator gets Stimulus Funding

[Matt Larsen - Lists]

Aloha Broadband, a WISP in Hawaii that runs 100% StarOS,  was one of the 
first 18 companies to receive broadband stimulus money.   Looks like the 
total scope of the project was also a lot more reasonable than some of 
the other ones.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jgqG0W8KNsbeVueTYPRDKYHqy8twD9CLQMJ02


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Re: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire

[Robert West]

Gives me an idea  old lightning zapped cpe's  find a house
fire.  Offer owner of house "free installation" of 6 or 7 or whatever number
messed up units one may have, after the fact of course...  

"Dang shame, house burned down and all burned up them 47 CPE's and cisco
router..."

Bob-


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Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 12:14 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire

So far I've had this happen twice. Both times the customers volunteered to
turn it into their insurance. -RickG

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Lost our first CPE from a house fire.  Guy was so down on the phone, I
> couldn't bear to bother him with an insurance claim on the CPE.  What
> have you done?
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Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

[Robert West]

I have one of those too, but it was "my fault".  The advice from UBNT to fix
the issue of them constantly resetting due to the lack of clearance around
the reset button was to "enlarge the hole".  I enlarged it and the reset
button popped out.  I just figured "Problem solved!".

Bob-



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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

LOL! I just had a Bullet2 that is missing the reset button! -RickG

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy Parr  wrote:

> 2010/1/6 Robert West :
> > Was out last night at 11:30, up on top of a grain bin trying to figure
> out
> > why my network was dropping out.  Using UBNT for the backhaul in this
> > section so I was using the Ubiquiti Discovery tool.  I would see NO UBNT
> > equipment, then I'd see a few then all then none, etc.  Finally traced
it
> > down to a Bullet5 M HP.  The thing was in a constant reset mode but not
> one
> > I'd seen before.  Some of the early units (and this is an early unit)
> would
> > have the reset button stuck in because of the lack of clearance around
> the
> > hole that the reset button is in..  but this one, the RSSI lights were
> > pegged to the max but that's normal on this install.  I Could "see" the
> > signal with my laptop but couldn't talk to the unit through the lan.  I
> took
> > the antenna off of it and the RSSI stayed all the way pegged.  Tried to
> > reset it, no go.  Finally went down to the van, got another Bullet,
> replaced
> > it and configured it all the while fighting the wind..  Shsh...
took
> it
> > home and when I fired it up I lost all the 5ghz signal from my other
> > equipment in the room.  Tried other channels, all gone.  My guess is,
the
> > Bullet was stuck in some some sort of loop and was broadcasting all
> across
> > the spectrum at once.  That would explain why, out in the field, I would
> > lose everything like a roller coaster.  After about an hour of warming
up
> I
> > was able to reset it, flash the firmware just to be sure it wasn't a
> > firmware issue and set it out in the cold to test it.  Working fine this
> > morning as a test unit but I've never seen one blast the entire spectrum
> at
> > once.  Or at least all the channels in such a quick succession.
>
> Is this the thread where we try to one up each other with the odd
> things that our Ubiquiti gear does? If so, I had a Nanostation talking
> to a Rocket, both in bridge mode, with Mikrotik's on the wired side at
> both ends, showing up as a hop in a traceroute. Traceroute would show
> other hosts on the network (correctly) then the MT on the Rocket end,
> then the Nanostation, and then the MT on the Nanostation end. I double
> and triple checked that the radios were set as bridges.
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

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Kevin - that's your phones fault, not AT&T.  As much as I hate admitting that.

VVM works on the latest update of the Bold.

On 1/7/10, Kevin Neal  wrote:
> I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
> check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
> far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.
>
> -Kevin
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> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
>> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
>> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
>> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
>> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
>> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
>> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
>> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
>>> To: WISPA General List 
>>> Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
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>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
>>> consumer
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>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Robert West]

I'll stick with my Motorola DynaTAC.  It does everything I need including
subbing as a wheel chock if needed.

Bob-



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 5:12 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
gadget.

If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !




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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

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On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 21:19 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: 
> Ain't that the truth!  Bob M. taught me both things I know about wireless!!!

I just wanna know who taught you math!  :-)  I know Bob's too smart to
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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Ain't that the truth!  Bob M. taught me both things I know about wireless!!!

hehehehe
marlon

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP


> Now I like Bob too! He's like the old EF Hutton commercial - "when Bob
> Moldashel talks, people listen", at least I do :)
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM,  wrote:
>
>> Oh he's the man alright..
>>
>> Lol
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Robert West" 
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:15:48
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP
>>
>> I'm becoming quite partial to him as well.  I'm thinking of adding him to
>> our Wall of Fame here at the shop.  He'll be alongside such greats as
>> Nikola
>> Tesla, Thomas Edison (we don't hang them beside each other since the 
>> court
>> order) Robert Goddard and Abe Vigoda.
>>
>> Marlon, you be the dude!
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of RickG
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:45 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP
>>
>> Marlon has always been my hero!
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Josh Luthman
>> wrote:
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>> > Well...11 months ago... =)
>> >
>> > He's still famous to me!
>> >
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>> > --- Albert Einstein
>> >
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>> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Robert West > > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Way to go, Marlon!  Your 15 minutes of fame has been officially
>> extended.
>> > >
>> > > Bob-
>> > >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:50 PM
>> > > To: wireless@wispa.org
>> > > Subject: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP
>> > >
>> > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340369,00.asp
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -
>> > > Mike Hammett
>> > > Intelligent Computing Solutions
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Re: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I had one of these too.  In her case we were able to use the outdoor parts, 
just lost the inside stuff.  I replaced it just to get her going.

I'd install new gear asap just got them back online.  Then I'd give them an 
invoice for the installation and tell them to turn it into the insurance co. 
Pay us when you get paid
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Hogg" 
To: "WISPA General List" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 8:38 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire


Lost our first CPE from a house fire.  Guy was so down on the phone, I
couldn't bear to bother him with an insurance claim on the CPE.  What
have you done?



Regards,

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Re: [WISPA] Fwd: OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Kevin Neal]

I'd like to just not have to reboot my phone every time I want to
check my visual voicemail or get online.AT&T sucks around here, so
far.  Voice is ok, datamuch to be desired.

-Kevin


On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Jeremie Chism  wrote:
> I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering
> apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the
> time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.
> Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or
> remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It
> has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start
> experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.
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>> Date: January 6, 2010 4:11:34 PM CST
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>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest
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Re: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire

[RickG]

So far I've had this happen twice. Both times the customers volunteered to
turn it into their insurance. -RickG

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Chuck Hogg  wrote:

> Lost our first CPE from a house fire.  Guy was so down on the phone, I
> couldn't bear to bother him with an insurance claim on the CPE.  What
> have you done?
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T and T-Mobile Complete Network Upgrades

[RickG]

Same here.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 1:47 PM,  wrote:

> Talk about inflated numbers on people reached on the 3G networks. T-mobile
> supposedly upgrading or soon will be in our area to EDGE (currently only
> getting GPRS). While AT&T in our area only supports currently EDGE with no
> indication of 3G available in near future (my understanding there are
> currently not even on the road map for 3G in our area) and here they are
> talking about finishing upgrade to HSPA7.2 and work towards HSPA+
>
> Ohh well. My Blackberry got wifi and supports UMA so don't care that much
> about 3G or HSPA. Got a 3G wifi AP for when I'm on the road so don't pay
> hotel wifi rates. Guess faster speeds those times are nice.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

[RickG]

Then there's Tom, this is least amount of words he probably ever typed! But
I enjoy his posts so much because they are always so thorough!
Happy New Years to all of you!

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

> Yeah, What a GREAT arcticle! Way to go guys.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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> - Original Message -
> From: "RickG" 
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP
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> > Marlon has always been my hero!
> > -RickG
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> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Josh Luthman
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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

[RickG]

Now I like Bob too! He's like the old EF Hutton commercial - "when Bob
Moldashel talks, people listen", at least I do :)

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:36 AM,  wrote:

> Oh he's the man alright..
>
> Lol
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:15:48
> To: 'WISPA General List'
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> I'm becoming quite partial to him as well.  I'm thinking of adding him to
> our Wall of Fame here at the shop.  He'll be alongside such greats as
> Nikola
> Tesla, Thomas Edison (we don't hang them beside each other since the court
> order) Robert Goddard and Abe Vigoda.
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> Marlon, you be the dude!
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> Bob-
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:45 PM
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> Marlon has always been my hero!
> -RickG
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> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Josh Luthman
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> > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340369,00.asp
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Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

[RickG]

LOL! I just had a Bullet2 that is missing the reset button! -RickG

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Jeremy Parr  wrote:

> 2010/1/6 Robert West :
> > Was out last night at 11:30, up on top of a grain bin trying to figure
> out
> > why my network was dropping out.  Using UBNT for the backhaul in this
> > section so I was using the Ubiquiti Discovery tool.  I would see NO UBNT
> > equipment, then I'd see a few then all then none, etc.  Finally traced it
> > down to a Bullet5 M HP.  The thing was in a constant reset mode but not
> one
> > I'd seen before.  Some of the early units (and this is an early unit)
> would
> > have the reset button stuck in because of the lack of clearance around
> the
> > hole that the reset button is in..  but this one, the RSSI lights were
> > pegged to the max but that's normal on this install.  I Could "see" the
> > signal with my laptop but couldn't talk to the unit through the lan.  I
> took
> > the antenna off of it and the RSSI stayed all the way pegged.  Tried to
> > reset it, no go.  Finally went down to the van, got another Bullet,
> replaced
> > it and configured it all the while fighting the wind..  Shsh...  took
> it
> > home and when I fired it up I lost all the 5ghz signal from my other
> > equipment in the room.  Tried other channels, all gone.  My guess is, the
> > Bullet was stuck in some some sort of loop and was broadcasting all
> across
> > the spectrum at once.  That would explain why, out in the field, I would
> > lose everything like a roller coaster.  After about an hour of warming up
> I
> > was able to reset it, flash the firmware just to be sure it wasn't a
> > firmware issue and set it out in the cold to test it.  Working fine this
> > morning as a test unit but I've never seen one blast the entire spectrum
> at
> > once.  Or at least all the channels in such a quick succession.
>
> Is this the thread where we try to one up each other with the odd
> things that our Ubiquiti gear does? If so, I had a Nanostation talking
> to a Rocket, both in bridge mode, with Mikrotik's on the wired side at
> both ends, showing up as a hop in a traceroute. Traceroute would show
> other hosts on the network (correctly) then the MT on the Rocket end,
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Re: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire

[Kurt Fankhauser]

I would tear that CPE apart and replace the guts with a RB411 and see if you
can get it running again.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
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Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
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Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:38 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Burnt CPE from House Fire

Lost our first CPE from a house fire.  Guy was so down on the phone, I
couldn't bear to bother him with an insurance claim on the CPE.  What
have you done?

 

Regards,

Chuck Hogg

Shelby Broadband
502-722-9292
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[WISPA] Fwd: OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Jeremie Chism]

I think droid is definitely going to be the way to go considering  
apple has to approve everything before it is "allowed".  But at the  
time when the iPhone first came out it was a big leap forward.  
Especially being able to telnet into our routers and make changes or  
remotely reboot cpe units. Also logmein on iPhone is a great help. It  
has gotten to where I don't think I could be without. I start  
experiencing withdrawal after about an hour.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest  
> consumer
> gadget.
>
> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
>
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Travis Johnson]

Correct... but how many people are going to buy the phone for $500 and 
still get to pay the same monthly for the service, just to not be in a 
contract? It will never happen. It makes no sense, when you can get the 
phone for $199 and sign a 2 year contract and have the same monthly price.

Travis
Microserv

Aaron D. Osgood wrote:
> Prior to the release of the Nexus One - Google's input to cellular device
> manufacturers was limited to providing the Operating System (Android) only.
> With the Nexus One, Google designed the device completely and hired HTC to
> build it to Google Specifications (Much like Apple designed and controls the
> iPhone but subs out the actual manufacturing). The initial Nexus One is a
> GSM device (meaning it will work on TMobile or ATT in the US) but a CDMA
> version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint). Google is attempting
> to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly without
> tying the buyer to a specific carrier - although some carrier's may choose
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> Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
> website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
> interesting though. 
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
>   
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

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Prior to the release of the Nexus One - Google's input to cellular device
manufacturers was limited to providing the Operating System (Android) only.
With the Nexus One, Google designed the device completely and hired HTC to
build it to Google Specifications (Much like Apple designed and controls the
iPhone but subs out the actual manufacturing). The initial Nexus One is a
GSM device (meaning it will work on TMobile or ATT in the US) but a CDMA
version will be released soon (for Verizon or Sprint). Google is attempting
to change the cellular landscape by selling the device directly without
tying the buyer to a specific carrier - although some carrier's may choose
to subsidize the device if you contract with them).

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Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
interesting though. 

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
> Google :)
> 
> The Nexus One Phone :
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

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The new HTC has a 1ghz clocked CPU.

AFAIK Google is not making any hardware.

On 1/6/10, Matt Hardy  wrote:
> Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
> website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
> interesting though.
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
>> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
>> Google :)
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Matt Hardy]

Hmm, nevermind I see the HTC emblem on the back of the phone on the
website now. Another Android based HTC phone... The specs are
interesting though. 

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:26 -0500, Matt Hardy wrote:
> now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
> Google :)
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Randy Cosby]

I got the Samsung moment on Sprint.  Love it.


On 1/6/2010 5:26 PM, Matt Hardy wrote:
> There are quite a few Android based devices :
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices
>
> I think I even saw a netbook yesterday that came preloaded with Android
> and XP setup in a dual-boot configuration.
>
> I had the G1 on TMobile, now have the HTC Hero. I've been happy with
> both, but now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
> Google :)
>
> The Nexus One Phone :
> http://www.google.com/phone
>
> -Matt
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:04 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>> Tmobile has G1 and the new HTC.  Verizon has the Droid.  Is that all
>> of Google's phones at this point?
>>
>> On 1/6/10, Aaron D. Osgood  wrote:
>>  
>>> The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the
>>> device. There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is
>>> one soon to be released for iDEN networks as well
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Josh Luthman
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>>>
>>> Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.
>>>
>>> //corrections
>>>
>>> On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>>>
 The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
 months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).

 Travis
 Microserv

 ccrum wrote:
  
> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
> without "jailbreaking".
>
> Cameron
>
> Jack Unger wrote:
>
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>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
>> gadget.
>>
>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Matt Hardy]

There are quite a few Android based devices :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices

I think I even saw a netbook yesterday that came preloaded with Android
and XP setup in a dual-boot configuration.

I had the G1 on TMobile, now have the HTC Hero. I've been happy with
both, but now I'm intrigued by the actual "Google Phone" made my
Google :)

The Nexus One Phone :
http://www.google.com/phone

-Matt

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 19:04 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Tmobile has G1 and the new HTC.  Verizon has the Droid.  Is that all
> of Google's phones at this point?
> 
> On 1/6/10, Aaron D. Osgood  wrote:
> > The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the
> > device. There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is
> > one soon to be released for iDEN networks as well
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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> > From: Josh Luthman 
> > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30
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> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
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> > Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.
> >
> > //corrections
> >
> > On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> >> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
> >> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
> >>
> >> Travis
> >> Microserv
> >>
> >> ccrum wrote:
> >>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
> >>> without "jailbreaking".
> >>>
> >>> Cameron
> >>>
> >>> Jack Unger wrote:
> >>>
>  Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

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Does the new Droids work with MSExchange and sync with it?

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Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps 
without "jailbreaking".

Cameron

Jack Unger wrote:
> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest 
> consumer gadget.
>
> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

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Tmobile has G1 and the new HTC.  Verizon has the Droid.  Is that all
of Google's phones at this point?

On 1/6/10, Aaron D. Osgood  wrote:
> The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the
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> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect
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> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Luthman 
> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone
>
> Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.
>
> //corrections
>
> On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
>> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
>> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> ccrum wrote:
>>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
>>> without "jailbreaking".
>>>
>>> Cameron
>>>
>>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>>
 Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
 gadget.

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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

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The Android OS doesn't care what the wireless technology is tied to the device. 
There are Android based devices available for GSM and CDMA. There is one soon 
to be released for iDEN networks as well

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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 18:53:30 
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Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.

//corrections

On 1/6/10, Travis Johnson  wrote:
> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
> months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> ccrum wrote:
>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
>> without "jailbreaking".
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>
>>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
>>> gadget.
>>>
>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Josh Luthman]

Droid is VZ only.  Your G1 runs Android software.

//corrections

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> The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6
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>
> Travis
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> ccrum wrote:
>> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps
>> without "jailbreaking".
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> Jack Unger wrote:
>>
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>>> gadget.
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>>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush
>>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Travis Johnson]

The "droid" has been available for months... I think I've had mine for 6 
months... it's called the G1 from Tmobile... (except I use it on AT&T).

Travis
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ccrum wrote:
> Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps 
> without "jailbreaking".
>
> Cameron
>
> Jack Unger wrote:
>   
>> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
>> gadget.
>>
>> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
>> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[ccrum]

Yep...waited on the Droid myselfawesome. And I can write my own apps 
without "jailbreaking".

Cameron

Jack Unger wrote:
> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
> gadget.
>
> If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
> out now and buy one of these great new Sumsing Turbo 3000s !
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Re: [WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Josh Luthman]

That's great!!!

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> Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer
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[WISPA] OT - Glad I Didn't Buy an iPhone

[Jack Unger]

Thank God I'm not addicted to rushing out and buying the latest consumer 
gadget.

If I HAD rushed out and bought an iPhone, I would not be able to rush 
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T and T-Mobile Complete Network Upgrades

[Brad Belton]

My iPhone is also jailbroken...tethered to a notebook I see 2Mbps+ down, but
uploads can vary from 80Kbps-200Kbps up.  

I use remote desktop while on the road or out in the field throughout DFW
and North Texas and both AT&T and my old Sprint Data card work very well.

Best,


Brad


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Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] AT&T and T-Mobile Complete Network Upgrades

I'm in a 3G area, and ATT is mediocre at best.
I cracked my I-phone so I can run my own apps, then modified their
settings to I can use it in tether mode.  While it might speed test at
around 700k, it browses like a slow 128K.

Same results in Dallas, and Manhattan.

Marco

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:47 PM,   wrote:
> Talk about inflated numbers on people reached on the 3G networks. T-mobile
supposedly upgrading or soon will be in our area to EDGE (currently only
getting GPRS). While AT&T in our area only supports currently EDGE with no
indication of 3G available in near future (my understanding there are
currently not even on the road map for 3G in our area) and here they are
talking about finishing upgrade to HSPA7.2 and work towards HSPA+
>
> Ohh well. My Blackberry got wifi and supports UMA so don't care that much
about 3G or HSPA. Got a 3G wifi AP for when I'm on the road so don't pay
hotel wifi rates. Guess faster speeds those times are nice.
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T and T-Mobile Complete Network Upgrades

[Marco Coelho]

I'm in a 3G area, and ATT is mediocre at best.
I cracked my I-phone so I can run my own apps, then modified their
settings to I can use it in tether mode.  While it might speed test at
around 700k, it browses like a slow 128K.

Same results in Dallas, and Manhattan.

Marco

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:47 PM,   wrote:
> Talk about inflated numbers on people reached on the 3G networks. T-mobile 
> supposedly upgrading or soon will be in our area to EDGE (currently only 
> getting GPRS). While AT&T in our area only supports currently EDGE with no 
> indication of 3G available in near future (my understanding there are 
> currently not even on the road map for 3G in our area) and here they are 
> talking about finishing upgrade to HSPA7.2 and work towards HSPA+
>
> Ohh well. My Blackberry got wifi and supports UMA so don't care that much 
> about 3G or HSPA. Got a 3G wifi AP for when I'm on the road so don't pay 
> hotel wifi rates. Guess faster speeds those times are nice.
>
> /Eje
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Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear

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I don't think so :)


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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

[Tom DeReggi]

Yeah, What a GREAT arcticle! Way to go guys.

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> Marlon has always been my hero!
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>> > Subject: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP
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>> > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340369,00.asp
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Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear

[Tom DeReggi]

Charles,

Excellent comment.

I'd argue though that its not a matter of customer count, but more about a 
revenue threshold to justify staying in business.
I believe the first threshold is about $15k monthly. Unlessthat threashold 
is met, its not cost effective to stay in business, but if it is met, 
usually the owner can get an ROI over time if they let it sit, and stay a 
one man show. Who knows if they'll ever get a full return on their 
investment, but money is sunk, and justified to let it continue because 
ongoing revenue pays as much as a day job, so let it ride on.

But your point was well heard, "how do you get to the next level?".

The next level might be around the $40k monthly range. Now one can add a 
couple employees, and have decent capacity and coverage, core costs covered, 
be competitive and be cash flow possitive doing it. Life is easier, profit 
is better, sustainabilty likely achieved. Now theirs a chance the owner can 
get a decent ROI over time, and clearly pays better than the day job.

But your point was well heard, and again ask, "how do you get to the next 
level?".

The think is, if the owner stays as is focuses on new customers (rev) 
and not buildout (new costs), its easilly sailing. In past years, maybe 10 
new business subs were needed to break even on a tower cost. A lot of work 
little reward. But now, 1 new business subs means it can cover a new car 
payment of luxury. But 1 more new business sub just bought you a beautiful 
new Flat screen TV. But 1 new business sub now makes a sizable monthly 
payment towards paying off finance debt.  The owner sees the light, why 
change the new found pattern?

Why grow? Or more importantly, Why spend?

Even with the Free Grant money, is it worth it? The requirement is that the 
recipient CAN NOT use the revenue/profit to pay themselves. All funds have 
to be spent on supporting the capitol infrastructure for the next 3 years. 
Why would a WISP want to divert all their free time the next 3 years working 
for free AGAIN, instead of working on the easy sales on their pre-existing 
network that instantly translates to PROFIT and ROI today?

Its costly to grow, whether its with your own money, or subsidized money. 
And its surely tough to decide to start all over again, going back into 
investment mode instead of payback mode.

One of my favorite stories is of an experience I had back in 1997, waiting 
to pickup an order from a Computer Distributer.
I ran into an old rival buddy of mine, we both just started our own 
businesses a year or two before.
I was like "How ya doing, we got like 4 CNEs now",
He was like, "yeah, well we got 5 techs now"
He was like "Well we broke 1 mil this year".
I was like "Well, we broke 2 mil last year".
Then an old guy waiting at the counter stepped over, joined in and said,
"Well, I've been in business for 15 years now, I have 1 employee he's been 
with me for 10, all I ever needed.  I have a beautiful home, a great wife, 
time for my kids, you can see my nice car out front, my customers love me, I 
treat them fairly and my quality is top notch, I got plenty of work, 
probably half-mil yearly, and get to choose which work I accept, but most of 
all I have peice of mind, and I sleep really well at night.  So who's the 
winner?"

We thanked our new friend for his insight. My friend and I looked at our 
watches, and he just realizes he's late for his meeting with his divorse 
attorney, and I just realize I'm about to miss another kids soccer game, and 
off we went in our clunkers.  I learned something that day, and made a 
change.  Now 13 years later, I look into the mirror, and I see a resemblance 
of that guy, and I'm fine with that.

I'm not saying, "dont spend, dont invest, dont evolve", I'm just saying, 
"bigger isn't always better".

When it comes to WiMax, I ask the same question as Non-WiMax. How is 
this choice going to make me more money today, with less effort?
 If the Plan shows it can, all is good.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wimax gear


> >Once you get to say 1000+ customers, things like having the staff for
>>service calls and time to repair for customers are often more important
>>than the brand of radio or the original cost of the radio. We do spend
>>more on payroll than radios, despite deploying lots of expensive gear.
>>Keeping CPE prices down is appreciated and important, but less tangible
>>ongoing management, troubleshooting, and repair costs must also be
>>considered. The reduction in support costs isn't an expection, it's a
>>reality and requirement in many situations.
>
> When you're working as a startup, labor costs are essentially zero (and if 
> you're asian like myself, you can call on your kids/relatives/grandparents 
> to work nights and weekends -- the classic Chinese restaurant business 

Re: [WISPA] AT&T and T-Mobile Complete Network Upgrades

[eje]

Talk about inflated numbers on people reached on the 3G networks. T-mobile 
supposedly upgrading or soon will be in our area to EDGE (currently only 
getting GPRS). While AT&T in our area only supports currently EDGE with no 
indication of 3G available in near future (my understanding there are currently 
not even on the road map for 3G in our area) and here they are talking about 
finishing upgrade to HSPA7.2 and work towards HSPA+   

Ohh well. My Blackberry got wifi and supports UMA so don't care that much about 
3G or HSPA. Got a 3G wifi AP for when I'm on the road so don't pay hotel wifi 
rates. Guess faster speeds those times are nice. 

/Eje
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[WISPA] AT&T and T-Mobile Complete Network Upgrades

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Article -



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Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

[Robert West]

Might be an excuse for a separate mailing list.

I bet it would get some traffic.  :)

Bob-




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Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

2010/1/6 Robert West :
> Was out last night at 11:30, up on top of a grain bin trying to figure out
> why my network was dropping out.  Using UBNT for the backhaul in this
> section so I was using the Ubiquiti Discovery tool.  I would see NO UBNT
> equipment, then I'd see a few then all then none, etc.  Finally traced it
> down to a Bullet5 M HP.  The thing was in a constant reset mode but not
one
> I'd seen before.  Some of the early units (and this is an early unit)
would
> have the reset button stuck in because of the lack of clearance around the
> hole that the reset button is in..  but this one, the RSSI lights were
> pegged to the max but that's normal on this install.  I Could "see" the
> signal with my laptop but couldn't talk to the unit through the lan.  I
took
> the antenna off of it and the RSSI stayed all the way pegged.  Tried to
> reset it, no go.  Finally went down to the van, got another Bullet,
replaced
> it and configured it all the while fighting the wind..  Shsh...  took
it
> home and when I fired it up I lost all the 5ghz signal from my other
> equipment in the room.  Tried other channels, all gone.  My guess is, the
> Bullet was stuck in some some sort of loop and was broadcasting all across
> the spectrum at once.  That would explain why, out in the field, I would
> lose everything like a roller coaster.  After about an hour of warming up
I
> was able to reset it, flash the firmware just to be sure it wasn't a
> firmware issue and set it out in the cold to test it.  Working fine this
> morning as a test unit but I've never seen one blast the entire spectrum
at
> once.  Or at least all the channels in such a quick succession.

Is this the thread where we try to one up each other with the odd
things that our Ubiquiti gear does? If so, I had a Nanostation talking
to a Rocket, both in bridge mode, with Mikrotik's on the wired side at
both ends, showing up as a hop in a traceroute. Traceroute would show
other hosts on the network (correctly) then the MT on the Rocket end,
then the Nanostation, and then the MT on the Nanostation end. I double
and triple checked that the radios were set as bridges.




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Re: [WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

[Jeremy Parr]

2010/1/6 Robert West :
> Was out last night at 11:30, up on top of a grain bin trying to figure out
> why my network was dropping out.  Using UBNT for the backhaul in this
> section so I was using the Ubiquiti Discovery tool.  I would see NO UBNT
> equipment, then I'd see a few then all then none, etc.  Finally traced it
> down to a Bullet5 M HP.  The thing was in a constant reset mode but not one
> I'd seen before.  Some of the early units (and this is an early unit) would
> have the reset button stuck in because of the lack of clearance around the
> hole that the reset button is in..  but this one, the RSSI lights were
> pegged to the max but that's normal on this install.  I Could "see" the
> signal with my laptop but couldn't talk to the unit through the lan.  I took
> the antenna off of it and the RSSI stayed all the way pegged.  Tried to
> reset it, no go.  Finally went down to the van, got another Bullet, replaced
> it and configured it all the while fighting the wind..  Shsh...  took it
> home and when I fired it up I lost all the 5ghz signal from my other
> equipment in the room.  Tried other channels, all gone.  My guess is, the
> Bullet was stuck in some some sort of loop and was broadcasting all across
> the spectrum at once.  That would explain why, out in the field, I would
> lose everything like a roller coaster.  After about an hour of warming up I
> was able to reset it, flash the firmware just to be sure it wasn't a
> firmware issue and set it out in the cold to test it.  Working fine this
> morning as a test unit but I've never seen one blast the entire spectrum at
> once.  Or at least all the channels in such a quick succession.

Is this the thread where we try to one up each other with the odd
things that our Ubiquiti gear does? If so, I had a Nanostation talking
to a Rocket, both in bridge mode, with Mikrotik's on the wired side at
both ends, showing up as a hop in a traceroute. Traceroute would show
other hosts on the network (correctly) then the MT on the Rocket end,
then the Nanostation, and then the MT on the Nanostation end. I double
and triple checked that the radios were set as bridges.



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[WISPA] Baby, it's cold out there! Bullet5M has the flu.

[Robert West]

Was out last night at 11:30, up on top of a grain bin trying to figure out
why my network was dropping out.  Using UBNT for the backhaul in this
section so I was using the Ubiquiti Discovery tool.  I would see NO UBNT
equipment, then I'd see a few then all then none, etc.  Finally traced it
down to a Bullet5 M HP.  The thing was in a constant reset mode but not one
I'd seen before.  Some of the early units (and this is an early unit) would
have the reset button stuck in because of the lack of clearance around the
hole that the reset button is in..  but this one, the RSSI lights were
pegged to the max but that's normal on this install.  I Could "see" the
signal with my laptop but couldn't talk to the unit through the lan.  I took
the antenna off of it and the RSSI stayed all the way pegged.  Tried to
reset it, no go.  Finally went down to the van, got another Bullet, replaced
it and configured it all the while fighting the wind..  Shsh...  took it
home and when I fired it up I lost all the 5ghz signal from my other
equipment in the room.  Tried other channels, all gone.  My guess is, the
Bullet was stuck in some some sort of loop and was broadcasting all across
the spectrum at once.  That would explain why, out in the field, I would
lose everything like a roller coaster.  After about an hour of warming up I
was able to reset it, flash the firmware just to be sure it wasn't a
firmware issue and set it out in the cold to test it.  Working fine this
morning as a test unit but I've never seen one blast the entire spectrum at
once.  Or at least all the channels in such a quick succession.  

 

Does anyone know if the Bullets will quickly run through all the channels
during boot up?   That's my only guess, that it was stuck and was just going
through all the channels with no end.  Had me totally confused and I'm
already partially there to begin with.

 

Robert West

Just Micro Digital Services Inc.

740-335-7020

 

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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

[lakeland]

Oh he's the man alright..

Lol
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Robert West" 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:15:48 
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

I'm becoming quite partial to him as well.  I'm thinking of adding him to
our Wall of Fame here at the shop.  He'll be alongside such greats as Nikola
Tesla, Thomas Edison (we don't hang them beside each other since the court
order) Robert Goddard and Abe Vigoda.

Marlon, you be the dude!

Bob-



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Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:45 PM
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Marlon has always been my hero!
-RickG

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Josh Luthman
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> Well...11 months ago... =)
>
> He's still famous to me!
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> --- Albert Einstein
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> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Robert West  >wrote:
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> > Way to go, Marlon!  Your 15 minutes of fame has been officially
extended.
> >
> > Bob-
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> > Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:50 PM
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> > Subject: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP
> >
> > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340369,00.asp
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Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

[Robert West]

I'm becoming quite partial to him as well.  I'm thinking of adding him to
our Wall of Fame here at the shop.  He'll be alongside such greats as Nikola
Tesla, Thomas Edison (we don't hang them beside each other since the court
order) Robert Goddard and Abe Vigoda.

Marlon, you be the dude!

Bob-



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 11:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP

Marlon has always been my hero!
-RickG

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Well...11 months ago... =)
>
> He's still famous to me!
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Robert West  >wrote:
>
> > Way to go, Marlon!  Your 15 minutes of fame has been officially
extended.
> >
> > Bob-
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 5:50 PM
> > To: wireless@wispa.org
> > Subject: [WISPA] Want Wireless Broadband Today? Try a WISP
> >
> > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2340369,00.asp
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
> > http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] 2010: One Question for WISPs

[Robert West]

If you're not at the bottom and you're not at the top, you're nowhere, man!

Bob-




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LOL, then I'm the wrong socialist :)

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Robert West
wrote:

> It's not anti-capitalistic, you just happen to be the wrong capitalist!
:)
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> It depends. I've always been an optimistic person and things are coming
> together well here, but, I'm very concerned about the way our government
> has
> become so anti-capitalistic. On the positive note that I think the current
> congress is gonna get fired in next Novemenber's election I'd choose B. I
> might have chosen an A but we still have the fellow in the white house to
> deal with. Ask again when he is gone :)
> -RickG
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Patrick Leary 
> wrote:
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> > Happy New Year folks. One simple multiple choice question:
> >
> > For 2010, are you more or less optimistic than you were in 2009?
> >
> > A - Much more
> > B - Somewhat more
> > C - Same
> > D - More pessimistic
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> > If you'd care to explain your answer, that's be great.
> >
> > Thank,
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> > Patrick
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[WISPA] Service in Scott Depot, WV

[David Hannum]

If anyone is serving the Scott Depot, WV area, there is a development of
about 60 residences that is looking for service.  Let me know and I'll
forward you the info.

Kind Regards,
David Hannum
New Era Broadband, LLC



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