Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the block parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back to sleep. The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No available rooms for 50 miles. I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and abandon the thing! LOL -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blake Bowersbbow...@mozarks.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 To:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no where near as packed as it was 10 years ago too. 4 years ago I did not even have reservations and found rooms at the first place I stopped at, a Drury. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Brian Websterbwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday,
Re: [WISPA] 802.11n Beam Forming
There are other products that do Beam forming, just not 802.11n. For example... SkyPilot was one of the first. Or Vivato (now defunct) or possibly Navini. The exciting part about BeamForming is that it falls under the newer FCC rules that allowed transmission at 8dbi higher EIRP power (44dbi), than the standard allowable 36db EIRP in some bands. With all the talk about needing Higher Power in Rural America and such, I never understood why more vendors didn't embrace smart antenna technologies and the legal allowable power that it facilitated. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Greg os10ru...@gmail.com To: r...@ashtonbrooke.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 802.11n Beam Forming Mr. Brough, Thank you so much for taking the time to write a detailed response. Before I wrote my question to the forum I Googled 802.11n beam forming and only got this hit http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Celeno+Announces+2nd+Generation+CL1800+Beam+Forming+802.11n+Chipset+-...-a0215916941of another company besides Ruckus that is working on bringing beam forming to market. I wonder if the outdoor AP technology will ever get to the point where beam forming will be put to use. It seems like it would help with frequency reuse if AP's could steer their nulls towards competing AP's and steer their radiated power towards specific customers and away from competing AP's. I think that would be even better than GPS sync since I assume GPS sync works by doing TDM - each AP gets a time slot. Is that right? Or does GPS sync do it's magic by having all AP's transmit at the same time and listen at the same time? Greg On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Brough Turner r...@ashtonbrooke.com wrote: Greg, At this moment, I think Ruckus is it. As yet, there's been no silicon support for beamforming under 11n. The one silicon vendor that's been vocal about beamforming is a startup, Quantenna Communications. They claim to have a chip that provides both 4x4 MIMO and beamforming, and claim it's in production. They recently announced that Netgear has signed up to use their chips (http://www.quantenna.com/pressrelease-01_05_10.html), but so far no news of what Netgear products might show up, or when. Lacking silicon support for beamforming, Ruckus does beamforming by antenna selection. They have an array of 12 antenna elements, a set of switches and presumably some switchable delays. They claim this gives them a choice of 4095 distinct antenna patterns. Antenna selections in this case means they pick which two of the 4095 distinct beams to use, on a packet by packet basis. They then connect those two configurations to the two inputs of a standard Atheros 11n 2x2 MIMO chip. I can't guess what we'll see for silicon based beamforming in the next 24 months (beyond the Quantenna chips), but I am optimistic that all silicon vendors will be driven to do full beamforming in silicon, eventually. The reason is residential Wi-Fi in apartment buildings (think of all those 30 story apartment buildings in Hong Kong and Beijing). When every apartment has an access point, you need directional to avoid interference from your neighbors. I'm sure the VCs that invested in Quantenna expect to sell out to whichever mainstream Wi-Fi chip vendor doesn't get their beamforming working in time. I'm just not sure of time frames. Thanks, Brough Skype: brough Mobile: +1 617 285 0433 http://blogs.broughturner.com On 2/7/10 6:41 AM, Greg wrote: Though the 802.11n specification details beam forming it appears the only manufacturer to explicitly market their product as doing beam forming is Ruckus. Does anyone know if other manufacturer's products with multiple antennas do any kind of beam forming, or do the offerings of other manufacturers with multiple antennas merely use one antenna or the other at any given instant. I understand that Ruckus' product is highly specialized in the antenna/beam forming aspect and has a very involved antenna array and control system, but still the other manufacturer's products with only two simple rubber duckies could still do some pattern shaping if the phasing of the two antennas is varied, not as effectively as the Ruckus products of course, but it would offer some improvement as far as gain and especially multipath/interference rejection. Greg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Thanks, Brough
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the block parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back to sleep. The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No available rooms for 50 miles. I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and abandon the thing! LOL -B- Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Blake Bowersbbow...@mozarks.com Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 22:36:47 To:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I have never had a problem finding rooms at Dayton, usually with my normal reservations taking place 2-3 days before the show. Never. Now, the hamvention, like all the other hamfests, is no
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
Tickets to Orlando for me are dirt cheap. Always have been. From KY to Orlando for the FISPA conference next month it's only $222 roundtrip. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the block parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back to sleep. The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No available rooms for 50 miles. I should throw all my crap into a U-haul truck, drive it out there and abandon the thing! LOL -B-
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
I live in Orlando so no, I'm not planning a family vacation but Orlando is one of the more popular conference spots in the US due to it's tourism industry. It may not be for everybody, but having the option of doing business/pleasure in one trip is attractive to some. Sorry if you took offense. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on a street and sleeping in it was out of the question. We circled the block parked at a different location at the Casino parking area and went back to sleep. The memories.. Might have to do that again but without the kids ;) / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:00 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show 10+ years ago I remember making a deal with a hotel to take a shower in a room that was being refurbished after driving through he night from NY. No available rooms for 50 miles. I should throw all my crap into a
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
WORK at a trade show/conference? I can stay home and work...LOL Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
I personally like central shows because less travel time and less time zone change for all America attending. As well, this even is targeted as a RURAL conference, and might make sense for it to be closer to more Rural market. I'd argue there are more Rural locations in the Western States. But Orlando is one of the lowest cost venue places for shows in a major market (after considering all extra costs) and Flights are always pretty cheap, even from the west coast. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Tickets to Orlando for me are dirt cheap. Always have been. From KY to Orlando for the FISPA conference next month it's only $222 roundtrip. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on a street and sleeping in it was
[WISPA] Web Based DNS package
We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
Central is better. I like not losing a day for travel. I thought St. Louis was suggested at one point, which seems like a decent idea. -Matt On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: I personally like central shows because less travel time and less time zone change for all America attending. As well, this even is targeted as a RURAL conference, and might make sense for it to be closer to more Rural market. I'd argue there are more Rural locations in the Western States. But Orlando is one of the lowest cost venue places for shows in a major market (after considering all extra costs) and Flights are always pretty cheap, even from the west coast. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Tickets to Orlando for me are dirt cheap. Always have been. From KY to Orlando for the FISPA conference next month it's only $222 roundtrip. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
http://openisp.net/openisp/mysqlBind http://probind.org/ Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Webmin should do it.. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2675 - Release Date: 02/08/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
try Power DNS Nice GUI MySQL driven and very pwoerful - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Just what I was going to suggest. Good tool especially for people not very Linux skilled and even for those that are. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:12 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package Webmin should do it.. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2675 - Release Date: 02/08/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Thanks, sorry for my ignorance on what is in ubuntu by default - Scott Piehn JCWIFI.com Division Manager Computer Dynamics 451 W. South St Freeport, IL 61032 V 815.233.2641 F 815.233.6225 E spi...@computerdyn.com - Original Message - From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package Webmin should do it.. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2675 - Release Date: 02/08/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
You need to install Webmin as it's not part of Ubuntu. http://www.webmin.com/deb.html -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 7:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package Thanks, sorry for my ignorance on what is in ubuntu by default - Scott Piehn JCWIFI.com Division Manager Computer Dynamics 451 W. South St Freeport, IL 61032 V 815.233.2641 F 815.233.6225 E spi...@computerdyn.com - Original Message - From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package Webmin should do it.. Aerowire Alan Long Director of Network Operations alan.l...@aerowire.net 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 tel: 3342759998 mobile: 336092 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Piehn Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2675 - Release Date: 02/08/10 01:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
I'd be up for Vegas. I personally like conventions there...lots of fun and I'm usually doing too much business to bring the family anyway. Just my 2 cents. Cameron Central is better. I like not losing a day for travel. I thought St. Louis was suggested at one point, which seems like a decent idea. -Matt On Feb 8, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Tom DeReggi wrote: I personally like central shows because less travel time and less time zone change for all America attending. As well, this even is targeted as a RURAL conference, and might make sense for it to be closer to more Rural market. I'd argue there are more Rural locations in the Western States. But Orlando is one of the lowest cost venue places for shows in a major market (after considering all extra costs) and Flights are always pretty cheap, even from the west coast. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Tickets to Orlando for me are dirt cheap. Always have been. From KY to Orlando for the FISPA conference next month it's only $222 roundtrip. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Along the same lines. For those who use power dns, what do you use for DHCP that is mysql based? Jory Privett wrote: try Power DNS Nice GUI MySQL driven and very pwoerful - Original Message - From: Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
So what's the latest with this? We essentially have an IPTV headend running in the shop. It's nice being able to sit in my office and work on the computer, while watching TV streamed over the LAN. But that doesn't make much money. At the UBNT AirMax conference they said they're doing IPTV over the new M stuff. But... I still run into that little issue of 6Mbps multicast rates. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:56 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Jayson Baker wrote: I will need to test that. The setting lets you use any valid modulation for the RF mode your in. I will also test with my B5M's. What exactly are you referring to? On the older 802.11a/b/g devices I see Multicast Rate. But on the Rocket/Bullet/Nano N-series (M series) I don't see Multicast Rate, just Allow all Yup the M's I have do not allow you to set a fixed rate. I should have been clearer in that I meant that the AirMax stuff was different then the AirOS stuff. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I will need to test that. The setting lets you use any valid modulation for the RF mode your in. I will also test with my B5M's. Jayson Baker wrote: IIRc, multicast is limited at the 6Mbps modulation on WiFi Tell me I'm wrong, please. But I've read it a couple times--compeltely forgot until we started doing this. Before, when we were watching IPTV off our fiber headend, we were doing it over EoIP. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:19 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: You can change the multicast rate on the non airmax units. Mine are enroute so have not tried with the airmax gear. I have not heard back about the units. At 130 ea, a Roku with the same features as the low end unit, will be more cost effective. I am still researching about the licensing requirements of securing the data stream for non OTA channels. Jayson Baker wrote: I seem to remember the low-end ones were around $130/ea. Not sure about the others. Price will vary based on where you buy and in what quantity I assume. Remembered that standard 802.11 will only multicast at around 1Mbps. So that's why we were having the problem with the multicast over AirMax equipment. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.comwrote: Did you get any pricing for the Amino STB's? I would like to know more about your setup. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
To this day I've heard of countless people that do it to compete (the triple bundle) but none that make any money. 6mbps multicast...per active channel. Usually it happens in such a way that if someone starts watching a channels 20-25 the channel will multicast through the network up until no one is watching it for ~5 minutes. Super bandwidth hog. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: So what's the latest with this? We essentially have an IPTV headend running in the shop. It's nice being able to sit in my office and work on the computer, while watching TV streamed over the LAN. But that doesn't make much money. At the UBNT AirMax conference they said they're doing IPTV over the new M stuff. But... I still run into that little issue of 6Mbps multicast rates. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:56 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Jayson Baker wrote: I will need to test that. The setting lets you use any valid modulation for the RF mode your in. I will also test with my B5M's. What exactly are you referring to? On the older 802.11a/b/g devices I see Multicast Rate. But on the Rocket/Bullet/Nano N-series (M series) I don't see Multicast Rate, just Allow all Yup the M's I have do not allow you to set a fixed rate. I should have been clearer in that I meant that the AirMax stuff was different then the AirOS stuff. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I will need to test that. The setting lets you use any valid modulation for the RF mode your in. I will also test with my B5M's. Jayson Baker wrote: IIRc, multicast is limited at the 6Mbps modulation on WiFi Tell me I'm wrong, please. But I've read it a couple times--compeltely forgot until we started doing this. Before, when we were watching IPTV off our fiber headend, we were doing it over EoIP. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:19 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: You can change the multicast rate on the non airmax units. Mine are enroute so have not tried with the airmax gear. I have not heard back about the units. At 130 ea, a Roku with the same features as the low end unit, will be more cost effective. I am still researching about the licensing requirements of securing the data stream for non OTA channels. Jayson Baker wrote: I seem to remember the low-end ones were around $130/ea. Not sure about the others. Price will vary based on where you buy and in what quantity I assume. Remembered that standard 802.11 will only multicast at around 1Mbps. So that's why we were having the problem with the multicast over AirMax equipment. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.comwrote: Did you get any pricing for the Amino STB's? I would like to know more about your setup. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV -- Anyone doing it?
Probably would not be profitable for us, either, in all actuality. We'd like to just offer some basic channels. Maybe 30 or 40. For those people who really just want basic TV Networks, Disney, ESPN, etc. But I think the programmers would force you to carry all their other stupid channels. *shrug* On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: To this day I've heard of countless people that do it to compete (the triple bundle) but none that make any money. 6mbps multicast...per active channel. Usually it happens in such a way that if someone starts watching a channels 20-25 the channel will multicast through the network up until no one is watching it for ~5 minutes. Super bandwidth hog. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: So what's the latest with this? We essentially have an IPTV headend running in the shop. It's nice being able to sit in my office and work on the computer, while watching TV streamed over the LAN. But that doesn't make much money. At the UBNT AirMax conference they said they're doing IPTV over the new M stuff. But... I still run into that little issue of 6Mbps multicast rates. On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 9:56 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Jayson Baker wrote: I will need to test that. The setting lets you use any valid modulation for the RF mode your in. I will also test with my B5M's. What exactly are you referring to? On the older 802.11a/b/g devices I see Multicast Rate. But on the Rocket/Bullet/Nano N-series (M series) I don't see Multicast Rate, just Allow all Yup the M's I have do not allow you to set a fixed rate. I should have been clearer in that I meant that the AirMax stuff was different then the AirOS stuff. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: I will need to test that. The setting lets you use any valid modulation for the RF mode your in. I will also test with my B5M's. Jayson Baker wrote: IIRc, multicast is limited at the 6Mbps modulation on WiFi Tell me I'm wrong, please. But I've read it a couple times--compeltely forgot until we started doing this. Before, when we were watching IPTV off our fiber headend, we were doing it over EoIP. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:19 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: You can change the multicast rate on the non airmax units. Mine are enroute so have not tried with the airmax gear. I have not heard back about the units. At 130 ea, a Roku with the same features as the low end unit, will be more cost effective. I am still researching about the licensing requirements of securing the data stream for non OTA channels. Jayson Baker wrote: I seem to remember the low-end ones were around $130/ea. Not sure about the others. Price will vary based on where you buy and in what quantity I assume. Remembered that standard 802.11 will only multicast at around 1Mbps. So that's why we were having the problem with the multicast over AirMax equipment. On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.comwrote: Did you get any pricing for the Amino STB's? I would like to know more about your setup. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] Looking for Orlando WISP
I'm looking for an Orlando WISP to help with Broadband for an event in early march. If interested Email me today with your contact info, and I'll get back to you within 24hours. This will be for a high capacity link for a day or two, and provided on a wholesale basis. I normally fly out and do these for a pre-defined rate. But I have a date conflict, and would prefer to refer it to a local, if compeitive. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I live in Orlando so no, I'm not planning a family vacation but Orlando is one of the more popular conference spots in the US due to it's tourism industry. It may not be for everybody, but having the option of doing business/pleasure in one trip is attractive to some. Sorry if you took offense. Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show You're wanting to go on a family vacation? I thought this was to be a WISP conference. Like, for WISP operators. I, personally, have no intention of spending that much for airline tickets, and going to play with Mickey Mouse while I'm at a conference. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Dylan Bouterse dy...@corp.power1.comwrote: Orlando! We have the 4 Disney parks, Universal Studios, Blue Men, Sea World, I-Drive area, Kissimmee area and a WHOLE lot more. I'm not aware of any zip lines though. :oP Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show Phoenix. Dry and warm. *OR* I live 5 minutes up the hill from a world class casino and hotel complex. http://www.meskwaki.com/ I could host, and you could take turns climbing my towers, and riding the zip lines here at Gilly Hollow. One of them is a terror at 750 feet. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:18 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I'm the same. If Vegas, I'd pass. Having shows in Vegas isn't about the show, it's about Vegas. The show is just the vehicle to use to get there. A show in Vegas has become a cliché. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Kelley Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 11:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show I was just in Vegas for the Ubiquity meeting If you are planning to take your family anywhere - VEGAS is not the place - IMHO When you get off the plane and exit the airport you are handed pamphlets for prostitutes to come to your hotel room from $25/ hr Having 3 daughters and 1 son ... I can tell you - this is hardly the place I would like to take my family on vacation. Disney sounds better ;-) Of course this is all business - - going out to Columbus, Philadelphia, Indy, Chicago, Denver - yeah - much nicer... _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Randy Cosby wrote: Next time, drive up to Mesquite (1.25 hours) or St. George - Great rooms / prices you can feel good about taking the family to. :) Randy On 2/4/2010 9:12 AM, Eje Gustafsson wrote: *shudder* Reminds me of WISPCon in Vegas. The WISPCon hotel screwed up my families reserveration. Roadeo show in town and one other large conference. There was not a hotel room in entire Vegas, Henderson or anywhere close enough to drive to. Got to the hotel around 7pm to find out there was no available room for us. We called probably 100 different places and visited probably another 40+ places, pleading and begging for a room. We didn't even find any rooms at the ones that only rented per week. Me, my wife, one baby and one toddler. Finally about 2:30am we gave up and ended up sleeping in our rental minivan on the parking lot. In the middle of the night by accident set of the car alarm. Got kicked off the lot by the Casino security guards. Dumb ass suggested we drive downtown and take in on a hotel that charge by the hour. Yeah exactly the place I want to take 2 small children.. Parking the car on a street and sleeping
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
While I initially had the same concerns you had and was not even that personally impressed in our meeting with their promoters, I eventually decided it was the way to go for one reason, membership. Yes our trade needs a good show but I did the math, If we sent out 2000 invitations to the WISP-DIRECTORY list we might get about 3-400 people in our trade. Of those likely 200 would be our own members and likely we would add about 100 new members tops. With this other show we stand the chance at being exposed to 1500 attendees, forging this new alliance would help to cement our integrated interests and have them start recommending their area WISP's, that's great for our membership. Also we might get their interest in joining so potentially adding hundreds of new members to WISPA. Even if they are affiliate members that still adds up to more than we get at our own show PLUS it would be more inviting for the other 1800 wisps to have something other than just us there. It just seems like an easier sell to WISP 's who aren't in WISPA, it might push a lot of business to our members and we potentially could see a much greater membership increase than if we did our own. That versus the hazard of losing money when we would rather spend it on filings and true WISPA business, that's my thinking anyway. Also for those who have stated we have made up our minds, those people are just people stirring s^t, they speak from no fact whatsoever and just like to say the board just does what they want, it's crap, untrue. We've been very transparent and this debate is us taking that input and using it to weigh heavily in our decision. It's a huge decision, easy for members to say hey you put on your own show but just think about the work that would put on a volunteer board versus the idea of what I stated above. Most opinions I've read have been self serving ones, 'put it five miles from my house' kind of thing. We're trying to serve the entire country and those with the middle America approach are very valid for that reason. We'd really enjoy hearing these kind of ideas but if we sit here and argue where all day we'll never get to put it on and yet another WISPA initiative gets buried in minutia, as a board this is exactly what we are trying to stop. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Is there a GUI for this? Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
Extremely well said. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:04 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA Board Members List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show While I initially had the same concerns you had and was not even that personally impressed in our meeting with their promoters, I eventually decided it was the way to go for one reason, membership. Yes our trade needs a good show but I did the math, If we sent out 2000 invitations to the WISP-DIRECTORY list we might get about 3-400 people in our trade. Of those likely 200 would be our own members and likely we would add about 100 new members tops. With this other show we stand the chance at being exposed to 1500 attendees, forging this new alliance would help to cement our integrated interests and have them start recommending their area WISP's, that's great for our membership. Also we might get their interest in joining so potentially adding hundreds of new members to WISPA. Even if they are affiliate members that still adds up to more than we get at our own show PLUS it would be more inviting for the other 1800 wisps to have something other than just us there. It just seems like an easier sell to WISP 's who aren't in WISPA, it might push a lot of business to our members and we potentially could see a much greater membership increase than if we did our own. That versus the hazard of losing money when we would rather spend it on filings and true WISPA business, that's my thinking anyway. Also for those who have stated we have made up our minds, those people are just people stirring s^t, they speak from no fact whatsoever and just like to say the board just does what they want, it's crap, untrue. We've been very transparent and this debate is us taking that input and using it to weigh heavily in our decision. It's a huge decision, easy for members to say hey you put on your own show but just think about the work that would put on a volunteer board versus the idea of what I stated above. Most opinions I've read have been self serving ones, 'put it five miles from my house' kind of thing. We're trying to serve the entire country and those with the middle America approach are very valid for that reason. We'd really enjoy hearing these kind of ideas but if we sit here and argue where all day we'll never get to put it on and yet another WISPA initiative gets buried in minutia, as a board this is exactly what we are trying to stop. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
We are using poweradmin at the moment. Http://poweradmin.org On Feb 8, 2010 2:18 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Is there a GUI for this? Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching t... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Custom perl script that creates allowed-hosts list from a mysql table. Currently working on a custom dhcp server in python running directly off postgresql because I'm not happy with the database hacks on top of isc dhcpd. On Feb 8, 2010 12:09 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Along the same lines. For those who use power dns, what do you use for DHCP that is mysql based? Jory Privett wrote: try Power DNS Nice GUI MySQL driven and very pwoerful - Origi... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Thanks, that seems to work well. This is so much easier to use than Bind9 with DLZ! Jon Auer wrote: We are using poweradmin at the moment. Http://poweradmin.org On Feb 8, 2010 2:18 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Is there a GUI for this? Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching t... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Packet flux shunt
I am looking for a shunt to monitor a wind turbine. that would work with the packet flux product Turbine is 400w at 12 V so I think I should get a 50Amp one. to 100 Millivolt Can anyone recommend where to buy it - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Packet flux shunt
Backwoodssolar.com Look under meters. ryan On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: I am looking for a shunt to monitor a wind turbine. that would work with the packet flux product Turbine is 400w at 12 V so I think I should get a 50Amp one. to 100 Millivolt Can anyone recommend where to buy it - Scott Piehn --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Another vote for PowerDNS with PowerAdmin. We're actually running PowerDNS as a hidden primary master with BIND 9 handling the external queries. We didn't want our DNS to be dependent on the availability of SQL, but needed fast web-based administration, and that setup proved to be a nice middle ground. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: Thanks, that seems to work well. This is so much easier to use than Bind9 with DLZ! Jon Auer wrote: We are using poweradmin at the moment. Http://poweradmin.org On Feb 8, 2010 2:18 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Is there a GUI for this? Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching t... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] iBoot
I used a few of these several years ago out of necessity back when I was using buggy trango Link 10's that had a time based luckup problem. Well they worked pretty good for a while but I noticed that they kept stealing the IP address of the server that I was pinging for the keep alive ping and causing all sorts of problems. I ended up trashing them because of it, they may have gotten this fixed since then though. I guess what I am getting at is that you make check to see this isn't why you can't get into the web interface. Make sure it hasn't stole an IP address from something else. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] iBoot Anyone having Dataprobe's iBoot single outlet version, have any problem after sometime accessing it through it's web interface, which is it's only method of access. I do of course, now it still seems to reboot the non-responsive pinged device, but still can't access it after sometime. Dataprobe seems to think that it is already being accessed, but I have it on a private ip address and not a 192.168.x.x and I know I am not accessing it. Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2666 - Release Date: 02/03/10 19:35:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Forwarders? Like a secondary DNS server for a BIND server? I click add slave zone in poweradmin, enter the zone name and name server IP and it just works. Gotta make sure the bind server is set up to allow the powerdns server's IPs to do a zone transfer or whatever it does to make it work. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
I assume you want this. http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/recursion.html Although I would take the advice of the documentation's author and utilize dnscache for recursive queries. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
That is exactly what I want. I missed the recursor line when glancing through that documentation. I just want to run a nameserver for our internal management servers that access SMs. So there wont be more than 15 or 20 systems using this for all of their dns lookups. Blake Covarrubias wrote: I assume you want this. http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/recursion.html Although I would take the advice of the documentation's author and utilize dnscache for recursive queries. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Now I just need to find a dhcp server that can use mysql Yet a good one does not exist. Blake Covarrubias wrote: I assume you want this. http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/recursion.html Although I would take the advice of the documentation's author and utilize dnscache for recursive queries. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
One exists. You need it for vmpsd. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote: Now I just need to find a dhcp server that can use mysql Yet a good one does not exist. Blake Covarrubias wrote: I assume you want this. http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/recursion.html Although I would take the advice of the documentation's author and utilize dnscache for recursive queries. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
Are you wanting something with SQL support so you can create DHCP reservations quickly and easily? You're right, a good SQL-based solution does not exist. We make use of isc-dhcpd's OMAPI interface to manage DHCP reservations in our network. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAPI http://www.bind9.net/dhcpd.8 (search for OMAPI) I'm not a C programmer and thus cannot utilize this API directly in our provisioning scripts, so I use a command-line utility called omcmd (http://freshmeat.net/projects/omcmd/) which I wrap my provisioning scripts around. Works very well for us. I had some issues compiling it on FreeBSD, but it just involved a simple modification to the Makefile to get to build. It may compile cleanly on other systems. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: Now I just need to find a dhcp server that can use mysql Yet a good one does not exist. Blake Covarrubias wrote: I assume you want this. http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/recursion.html Although I would take the advice of the documentation's author and utilize dnscache for recursive queries. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 12:03 -0800, Forbes Mercy wrote: While I initially had the same concerns you had and was not even that personally impressed in our meeting with their promoters, I eventually decided it was the way to go for one reason, membership. So, here is the board (one member anyway) stating that you (not a committee) decided to go with them. Also for those who have stated we have made up our minds, those people are just people stirring s^t, they speak from no fact whatsoever and just like to say the board just does what they want, it's crap, untrue. Even YOU say that the board made this decision. Well, not the board, but you and Matt. The message posted to the committee said the same thing. Who is the those people... you are referring to? I have stated nothing more or less than fact. We've been very transparent and this debate is us taking that input and using it to weigh heavily in our decision. Which input are you referring to? There has been only one message (mine) posted to the committee list and I didn't say one way or the other beyond stating that IF we (WISPA) were to put on a show, it would have to be late in the year due to the timing of the messages and discussion (or lack of discussion, to be more precise). FWIW, it would appear that the board is not even in complete agreement that the path you and Matt chose is right, as Marlon has been posting things to the show committee list indicating that HE thinks the show should be a WISPA event, too. It's a huge decision, easy for members to say hey you put on your own show but just think about the work that would put on a volunteer board versus the idea of what I stated above. But isn't this a member focused organization? At least this should have been a committee decision. We did not even have opportunity to discuss it. We were simply told that you (Forbes) and Matt had made the decision. There was no input to consider. Most opinions I've read have been self serving ones, 'put it five miles from my house' kind of thing. We're trying to serve the entire country and those with the middle America approach are very valid for that reason. We'd really enjoy hearing these kind of ideas but if we sit here and argue where all day we'll never get to put it on and yet another WISPA initiative gets buried in minutia, as a board this is exactly what we are trying to stop. THEN SEND THE QUESTION TO A COMMITTEE! Isn't that what the committees are for? This isn't even a member's list that you are posting this to (me, either). -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
Seems like a logical position if the purpose of the show is to drive WISPA membership. Maybe the existing members want a show for another purpose. -Matt On Feb 8, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Forbes Mercy wrote: While I initially had the same concerns you had and was not even that personally impressed in our meeting with their promoters, I eventually decided it was the way to go for one reason, membership. Yes our trade needs a good show but I did the math, If we sent out 2000 invitations to the WISP-DIRECTORY list we might get about 3-400 people in our trade. Of those likely 200 would be our own members and likely we would add about 100 new members tops. With this other show we stand the chance at being exposed to 1500 attendees, forging this new alliance would help to cement our integrated interests and have them start recommending their area WISP's, that's great for our membership. Also we might get their interest in joining so potentially adding hundreds of new members to WISPA. Even if they are affiliate members that still adds up to more than we get at our own show PLUS it would be more inviting for the other 1800 wisps to have something other than just us there. It just seems like an easier sell to WISP 's who aren't in WISPA, it might push a lot of business to our members and we potentially could see a much greater membership increase than if we did our own. That versus the hazard of losing money when we would rather spend it on filings and true WISPA business, that's my thinking anyway. Also for those who have stated we have made up our minds, those people are just people stirring s^t, they speak from no fact whatsoever and just like to say the board just does what they want, it's crap, untrue. We've been very transparent and this debate is us taking that input and using it to weigh heavily in our decision. It's a huge decision, easy for members to say hey you put on your own show but just think about the work that would put on a volunteer board versus the idea of what I stated above. Most opinions I've read have been self serving ones, 'put it five miles from my house' kind of thing. We're trying to serve the entire country and those with the middle America approach are very valid for that reason. We'd really enjoy hearing these kind of ideas but if we sit here and argue where all day we'll never get to put it on and yet another WISPA initiative gets buried in minutia, as a board this is exactly what we are trying to stop. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politics and Law - CNET News
How about the FBI gets what they pay for? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html?tag=nl.e404 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politicsand Law - CNET News
The amount of data is trivial. If that's all they want, it is simple. Peeling the layers of encryption away and/or figuring out the port/protocol hiding the Web activity: that's hard. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:12 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politicsand Law - CNET News How about the FBI gets what they pay for? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html?tag=nl.e404 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politicsand Law - CNET News
just because it is simple, does not make it right, nor would making it into law. Once ISP's have to keep track of HTTP, it is a short road to keeping track of everything, then storing the data for this, then the data for that, and so on and so forth. This is just wrong, plain and simple, and I really hope that WISPA takes that stance. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: The amount of data is trivial. If that's all they want, it is simple. Peeling the layers of encryption away and/or figuring out the port/protocol hiding the Web activity: that's hard. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:12 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politicsand Law - CNET News How about the FBI gets what they pay for? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html?tag=nl.e404 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Board] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
Butch, Members and Observers, There is a WISPA Board meeting this Thursday. Now is the time for all to weigh in on opinions on a WISPA Trade Show. I have met with one tradeshow developer with Matt and Forbes and have spoken to several others by phone/email. There is great interest in outside parties working with WISPA to develop a show. It seems many of these options wish to leverage the WISPA reputation and branding to produce a show which will be financially rewarding to private interests. The question is whether WISPA can produce and own its own show as a successful venture. Our lobbying costs have skyrocketed the last six months, there are calls for an Executive Director by many and there is the cost of producing a tradeshow. Financially, WISPA is not in a position to do all three in my opinion. WISPA still needs to build membership or raise dues to accomplish all three of the above goals. It is another typical chicken and the egg dilemma. Give us your input. We can do anything we set our minds to; we have all proven that by building our businesses. But at some time we need to recognize that the revenue generated by 300 WISP members at $250 per year just is not going to accomplish everything that is desired. Put some serious thought into the financial aspects of what I just said and really think about the solutions that you suggest and what is more important to your business and our industry. I will tell you that several factors are weighing on this decision but these are some of my thoughts: 1. The desire of the Board and Members to have a successful show which encompasses the following: a. Is educational to our membership b. Is affordable to our members c. Is cost effective to our vendor members d. Is productive in terms of attracting new members e. Is breakeven at a minimum in no more than two years f. Is in a venue that is easily accessible and has plenty of options for lodging, entertainment is not overpriced 2. The Board realizes the effectiveness of planning a successful show will be compromised if done as a volunteer effort. a. Dedicated staff/manager is essential to the success b. Beginner's mistakes should be minimized c. Options are to hire a tradeshow development firm, partner with an existing tradeshow, hire a consultant and college interns 3. A successful Tradeshow venture will take a substantial amount of capital to plan, coordinate, down payments, signage and many other expenses. The options currently under consideration: a. Partner with a developer who will front the investment needed, but will control the profits (WISPA would benefit from new memberships) b. Hire a consultant and obtain key startup investment from our Vendor Members as High Level Sponsors c. Produce a small show in a low cost venue with all investment coming from the WISPA Bank Account Reserves at the risk of forfeiting important lobbying efforts. 4. Location is a factor a. Everyone wants the tradeshow near them. b. Maximum attendance will most likely be produced by good marketing and reasonable cost/benefit tradeoff. c. Popular tradeshow venues are Las Vegas, Dallas, Orlando, Chicago, Lower cost venues may be St. Louis, Indianapolis, Denver, Columbus, Atlanta. d. Location should have access to direct flights e. Location should be comfortable in terms of climate/time of the year f. Location should have activities nearby for those bringing families 5. Everyone will have an opinion a. There is no solution that will satisfy all b. No matter what solution is decided, be prepared for criticism c. Use member input to determine the best solution for members, vendors and WISPA d. Find ways to produce valuable productive volunteer assets out of those who take great interest in the program Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: board-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:board-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:36 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA Board Members List Subject: Re: [Board] [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 12:03 -0800, Forbes Mercy wrote: While I initially had the same concerns you had and was not even that personally impressed in our meeting with their promoters, I eventually decided it was the way to go for one reason, membership. So, here is the board (one member anyway) stating that you (not a committee) decided to go with them. Also for those who have stated we have made up our minds, those people are just people stirring s^t, they speak from no fact whatsoever and just like to say the board just does what they want, it's crap, untrue. Even YOU say that the board made this decision. Well, not the board, but you and Matt. The message posted to the committee said the same thing. Who is the those people... you are referring to? I have stated nothing more or
Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show
I have a slight bit of insider knowledge to this tradeshow concept. One of the things that really turned me away from his show is that he is suggesting a LARGE entrance fee and them keeping the profit. Granted, it may not be as large as some shows, but for our community the first impression I had was I don't think that you will get the draw that you desire at that price. Vendor booth packages at $5k-$50k, $300-$750 entrance fees, and for what? The main part about it was that I was told that they had to get the buy-in from WISPA. Without it they felt doomed. Now, if this show is going to generate $1M, I think that WISPA should get some type of rev-share out of it. Now, the numbers may have changed significantly. I don't know. But if I was on the committee, the first thing I would be thinking about is how does WISPA sign off on a show that they are trying to get 200 new members for, or approximately $50k in membership fees, where the entrance to the show is more expensive than a year's membership? FISPA puts on multiple shows/meetings a year. The prices are negligible. The Orlando March show is $159 for 2 days, and includes meals, drinks, and 1 hotel night stay. They hold 3-4 of them a year. They are a smaller version of a MUM if you have ever attended one. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:04 PM To: WISPA General List; WISPA Board Members List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Wispashow] Decision on WISPA Show While I initially had the same concerns you had and was not even that personally impressed in our meeting with their promoters, I eventually decided it was the way to go for one reason, membership. Yes our trade needs a good show but I did the math, If we sent out 2000 invitations to the WISP-DIRECTORY list we might get about 3-400 people in our trade. Of those likely 200 would be our own members and likely we would add about 100 new members tops. With this other show we stand the chance at being exposed to 1500 attendees, forging this new alliance would help to cement our integrated interests and have them start recommending their area WISP's, that's great for our membership. Also we might get their interest in joining so potentially adding hundreds of new members to WISPA. Even if they are affiliate members that still adds up to more than we get at our own show PLUS it would be more inviting for the other 1800 wisps to have something other than just us there. It just seems like an easier sell to WISP 's who aren't in WISPA, it might push a lot of business to our members and we potentially could see a much greater membership increase than if we did our own. That versus the hazard of losing money when we would rather spend it on filings and true WISPA business, that's my thinking anyway. Also for those who have stated we have made up our minds, those people are just people stirring s^t, they speak from no fact whatsoever and just like to say the board just does what they want, it's crap, untrue. We've been very transparent and this debate is us taking that input and using it to weigh heavily in our decision. It's a huge decision, easy for members to say hey you put on your own show but just think about the work that would put on a volunteer board versus the idea of what I stated above. Most opinions I've read have been self serving ones, 'put it five miles from my house' kind of thing. We're trying to serve the entire country and those with the middle America approach are very valid for that reason. We'd really enjoy hearing these kind of ideas but if we sit here and argue where all day we'll never get to put it on and yet another WISPA initiative gets buried in minutia, as a board this is exactly what we are trying to stop. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package
There is dhcp servers that can utilize either radius for ip assignment or ldap. With MikroTik it's easy to setup the internal dhcp server to get lease info from a radius server. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:20:03 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Web Based DNS package Now I just need to find a dhcp server that can use mysql Yet a good one does not exist. Blake Covarrubias wrote: I assume you want this. http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/recursion.html Although I would take the advice of the documentation's author and utilize dnscache for recursive queries. -- Blake Covarrubias On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:19 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: How do I configure forwarders in powerdns? Maybe I am having a slow day but I just cannot figure this out and am tired of looking. I am hoping you know off the top of your head. Thanks Jon Auer wrote: Webmin can handle this with plain old Bind (4/9). We used it before switching to PowerDNS with a database backend and our own control panel. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Scott Piehn li...@jcwifi.com wrote: We have two Ubuntu servers running Bind9 I am looking for a web based control panel to manage both at the same time setup dns management for other domains. Kind of like reselling web hosting Any recommendations that people are willing to share - Scott Piehn WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politicsand Law - CNET News
I agree Jeromie Reeves wrote: just because it is simple, does not make it right, nor would making it into law. Once ISP's have to keep track of HTTP, it is a short road to keeping track of everything, then storing the data for this, then the data for that, and so on and so forth. This is just wrong, plain and simple, and I really hope that WISPA takes that stance. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Jonathan Schmidt jeschm...@jeschmidt.com wrote: The amount of data is trivial. If that's all they want, it is simple. Peeling the layers of encryption away and/or figuring out the port/protocol hiding the Web activity: that's hard. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:12 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Principal WISPA Member List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FBI wants records kept of Web sites visited | Politicsand Law - CNET News How about the FBI gets what they pay for? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10448060-38.html?tag=nl.e404 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
