Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
Jon We have been using Intel's/HP Carrier Server for this type of App. Its basically a 2U NEBS compliant Server. Its built by Intel, has 2 Xeon CPUS, 2 Intel GBE and PCI X and PCI E expansion slots, Dual AC or DC Power and more Very robust and reliable Check out ebay for great deals on them http://cgi.ebay.com/TLPD0201-CARRIER-GRADE-SERVER-TIGPR2U-DC-POWER_W0QQitemZ190377918680QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Servers?hash=item2c536880d8#ht_2597wt_1165 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 3:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Oh, I'm still a believer in Cisco for the edge :-) Although I'm looking at Juniper for the next upgrade. MX80s or MX240s if the MX80 isn't out by then. The problem I have is we are upgrading a couple of backhaul rings to licensed links and I'm supposed to make sure they can pass 200Mbps of traffic as we want to use it to feed FTTH. I'd use Cisco 3550s except they don't support IPv6 or VPLS and both are hot stuff these days. My current scheme of 3550s with RB450Gs handling IPv6 and other special services adds a bit too much complexity for my liking. Got a quote back from Ciena on some LE-311v (switch that does VPLS/MPLS pseudowire/PBB-TE. Clearwire uses them as their tower switches) and I'm still reeling from the sticker shock. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: ImageStream or Cisco would probably be best. ImageStream if it's Ethernet, Cisco if it's a card that isn't support (note there is an OC12 card now, Travis). Realtek and Linux typically go together like fire and water. Having said that, I believe the rb44 (non gigabit) is Realtek. The admin station at the office has it (makes it easier plugged directly into a few devices at once and this network and that) and I can double check tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list. Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place. What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only host-protection ACLs? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262cm_re=supermicro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand of ethernet chipset under RouterOS? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount atom dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500 I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4 years of calculus and you would think I could at least add. Sorry, I forgot I used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation, thinking it was near $200, but is was $250. Complete system $286, and with quantities, I am sure it will come down. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN $29 - 1 GB Memory $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM -- $286 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel D945GCLF (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter $69 - Motherboard $9 - Riser Card $29 - 1 GB Memory $10 - USB Flash Drive $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card) - $285 Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
Just seen a WISP here over the weekend show me his new core router. Core 2 Duo in a rackmount 4U case with 5 PCI network cards and Solid State Hard Drive. And 2 gigs of RAM. I think the Solid State Hard Drive is whats gonna make that thing last forever. As long as he doesn't have a power supply failure but that can be replaced fairly quickly without needing to re-install the system. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Personally, I would be looking at an Intel Core2Duo or higher system. There are many for sale on ebay in 1u cases. Something like item #170451664096 would be perfect... I'm sure there are many other choices on ebay, this was just the first one that came up. Travis Jon Auer wrote: Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list. Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place. What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only host-protection ACLs? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262cm_re=superm icro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand of ethernet chipset under RouterOS? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount atom dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500 I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4 years of calculus and you would think I could at least add. Sorry, I forgot I used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation, thinking it was near $200, but is was $250. Complete system $286, and with quantities, I am sure it will come down. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN $29 - 1 GB Memory $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM -- $286 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel D945GCLF (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter $69 - Motherboard $9 - Riser Card $29 - 1 GB Memory $10 - USB Flash Drive $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card) - $285 Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything together for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these. Travis Microserv Eric Rogers wrote: We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys. They are Atom processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at the $200 mark. We just implemented our first one this week. So far, so good. The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these enclosures. None are vented, but the sites are kept less than 90*. For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning replacements. I am really worried more about the heat. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:19 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? All of those are steps down from his current P4 based system. The only way to get more performance is to build your own X86 system. Travis Microserv
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
We get Dell 1U Quad Core boxes, install flash drives and Intel NICs and these are fine. We can easily do 500Mbps Mikrotik speed tests over a PPTP link across two Bridgewave links. All for around $1000. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
This is a good find too http://cgi.ebay.com/Network-Engines-NS6400-Firewall-Win-Server-2003-NAR5 060_W0QQitemZ300400695366QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item 45f146d846#ht_3290wt_1165 2 FE 4 GE The NS6400 is a P4 2.8 ghz based appliance $199 not bad Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Personally, I would be looking at an Intel Core2Duo or higher system. There are many for sale on ebay in 1u cases. Something like item #170451664096 would be perfect... I'm sure there are many other choices on ebay, this was just the first one that came up. Travis Jon Auer wrote: Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list. Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place. What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only host-protection ACLs? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262cm_re=su permicro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand of ethernet chipset under RouterOS? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount atom dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500 I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4 years of calculus and you would think I could at least add. Sorry, I forgot I used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation, thinking it was near $200, but is was $250. Complete system $286, and with quantities, I am sure it will come down. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN $29 - 1 GB Memory $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM -- $286 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel D945GCLF (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter $69 - Motherboard $9 - Riser Card $29 - 1 GB Memory $10 - USB Flash Drive $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card) - $285 Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything together for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these. Travis Microserv Eric Rogers wrote: We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys. They are Atom processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at the $200 mark. We just implemented our first one this week. So far, so good. The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these enclosures. None are vented, but the sites are kept less than 90*. For $200, I can stock many on the shelf for lightning replacements. I am really worried more about the heat. Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 8:19 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? All of those are steps down from his current P4 based system. The only way to get more performance is to build your own X86 system. Travis Microserv can...@believewireless.net wrote: A RB450G should be fine for what you need. Or use an RB493AH if you need more ports. If you can wait a
Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?
Zig zag your ap's back and forth across the valley. Use customer houses as transmit sites to those on the other side of the river. That'll work much better than a mesh system. marlon - Original Message - From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well? I just got a call from a remote community, this is in the mountains so to speak. It's actually a canyon with a river in the middle and houses on both sides. It's not straight, and there's trees galore.In other words, longest distance with 2.4 is going to be not very far. But, there's a lot of people here, equivalent of a small town, and no other broadband, and only some of them could even use satellite, which they all seem to hate.The populated area that's in this valley/canyon is spread over about 6 miles, the first 3 of which is open enough to use more conventional wireless setups. The last 3 miles, the canyon has bends and narrow spots, and vastly more trees. So, I got to thinking that an outdoor mesh might work for part of this, but I have yet to read of any truly successful outdoor meshes -especially that can deliver a large amount of bandwidth. Anyone? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well?
Voice of experience right there. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well? Zig zag your ap's back and forth across the valley. Use customer houses as transmit sites to those on the other side of the river. That'll work much better than a mesh system. marlon - Original Message - From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:41 AM Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor mesh, has anyone seen any work well? I just got a call from a remote community, this is in the mountains so to speak. It's actually a canyon with a river in the middle and houses on both sides. It's not straight, and there's trees galore.In other words, longest distance with 2.4 is going to be not very far. But, there's a lot of people here, equivalent of a small town, and no other broadband, and only some of them could even use satellite, which they all seem to hate.The populated area that's in this valley/canyon is spread over about 6 miles, the first 3 of which is open enough to use more conventional wireless setups. The last 3 miles, the canyon has bends and narrow spots, and vastly more trees. So, I got to thinking that an outdoor mesh might work for part of this, but I have yet to read of any truly successful outdoor meshes -especially that can deliver a large amount of bandwidth. Anyone? ++ Neofast, Inc, Making internet easy 541-969-8200 509-386-4589 ++ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Motorola PTP800
Anyone have a street price on this unit? 23 Ghz. 50 Mb ??? Offlist if you want. Tnx. -B- lakel...@gbcx.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
Even though the datasheet says v-pol? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: from my experience the x means x-pol or 45 degree pol ,likely designed for iden 900? --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:57 PM Only thing I would be worried about is picking up interference in the 800 MHz range. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Label says 870MHz - 960 MHz, 90 degree, V-Pol. Part#DB844H90E-X. Cant find documents for the -X but -XY is attached. So, will they work with XR-9's? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can they still be used? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity. A lot of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or horiz but stock in between. Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N male. If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list. I have those comming out of my. But check the polarity Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:29:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors A Cell company gave me some old 900Mhz sector antennas. They said nothing wrong with them, they're just not using those frequencies any more. The label is marked for 890-940Mhz. Any issues with using them? Also, they have Heliax (female) connectors. Where can I get pigtails that convert them to N-Female? -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ DB844H90E-XY.pdf --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard?
Don't think the SSDs make any difference unless for some weird reason you are running the OS from it! For web caching it works so much better. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, Mikrotik Certified Trainer, MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCUME Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Just seen a WISP here over the weekend show me his new core router. Core 2 Duo in a rackmount 4U case with 5 PCI network cards and Solid State Hard Drive. And 2 gigs of RAM. I think the Solid State Hard Drive is whats gonna make that thing last forever. As long as he doesn't have a power supply failure but that can be replaced fairly quickly without needing to re-install the system. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 12:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Personally, I would be looking at an Intel Core2Duo or higher system. There are many for sale on ebay in 1u cases. Something like item #170451664096 would be perfect... I'm sure there are many other choices on ebay, this was just the first one that came up. Travis Jon Auer wrote: Just saw Travis's mention of this board on the Mikrotik list. Man. lots of action on this general topic all over the place. What would you recommend for handling say, 200Mbps of VPLS and general packet bashing (iBGP+OSPF). Connection tracking turned off and only host-protection ACLs? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Would that be the SYS-5015A-H 1U? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816101262cm_re=su perm icro_atom-_-16-101-262-_-Product It has Realtek GigE onboard. Anyone have experiences with that brand of ethernet chipset under RouterOS? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: If you are looking for rackmount units, supermicro has a rackmount atom dual core bare bones system ... pricing is in the #250 - $300 range It has 2 GBE interfaces and PCIE expansion Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scottie Arnett Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will stay with the PC and try out the Atoms with a DOM. One of my goals was to cut down on electric usage also, and it looks like they will do the trick. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 00:19:47 -0500 I must eat crow... I am horrible at addition and subtraction... 4 years of calculus and you would think I could at least add. Sorry, I forgot I used a USB dongle I already had in my original calculation, thinking it was near $200, but is was $250. Complete system $286, and with quantities, I am sure it will come down. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU and Power Adapter $109 - Jetway NC92-N330 1.6 Dual Atom $49 - Jetway 3 X Gigabit LAN $29 - 1 GB Memory $39 - 1 GB SATA DOM -- $286 I have also built basically the same as above, but an Intel D945GCLF (Single Core Intel chipset) for about the same. $69 - M350 Enclosure with PSU (unneeded) and Power Adapter $69 - Motherboard $9 - Riser Card $29 - 1 GB Memory $10 - USB Flash Drive $99 - RB44G (or 4 port Ethernet card) - $285 Eric -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Replace MT X86 with routerboard? Care to share your parts list? I can't seem to put everything together for less than $200... and I'd love to test one of these. Travis Microserv Eric Rogers wrote: We have been testing mini-box.com's little toys. They are Atom processors, but with a SATA DOM, dual core 1.6GHz Atom, 3 GB Ether add-on (total of 4 GB ports), we have been able to keep them right at the $200 mark. We just implemented our first one this week. So far, so good. The true test is the heat of the summer in some of these
Re: [WISPA] USF Changes
Yep, they are now going to actively work to put us out of business. Gotta love it. marlon - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 7:25 AM Subject: [WISPA] USF Changes FCC to propose revamping Universal Service Fund AP By JOELLE TESSLER, AP Technology Writer Joelle Tessler, Ap Technology Writer – Fri Mar 5, 5:25 pm ET WASHINGTON – Federal regulators trying to bring high-speed Internet connections to all Americans will propose tapping the government program that now subsidizes telephone service in poor and rural areas. The Federal Communications Commission will include a proposal to revamp the Universal Service Fund as part of a national broadband plan due to Congress on March 17. Although the proposal itself has been expected for months, Friday's announcement offered the first solid details. The FCC said it envisions transforming the Universal Service program over the next decade to pay for high-speed Internet access instead of the traditional voice services that it currently finances. The proposal would create a Connect America fund inside the Universal Service program to subsidize broadband, and a Mobility Fund to expand the reach of so-called 3G, or third-generation, wireless networks. It's time to migrate this 20th-century program, said Blair Levin, the FCC official overseeing the broadband plan, which was mandated by last year's stimulus bill. We need to move the current system from the traditional networks to the new networks. The Universal Service Fund was established to ensure that all Americans have access to a basic telephone line. Today, the program subsidizes phone service for the poor, funds Internet access in schools and libraries and pays for high-speed connections for rural health clinics. But its biggest function is to bring telephone service to remote, sparsely populated corners of the country, where it is uneconomical for the private companies to build networks. Funding for the $8-billion-a-year program comes from a surcharge that businesses and consumers pay on their long-distance bills. That revenue base is shrinking, placing the Universal Service Fund under mounting pressure even as the FCC seeks to use it to subsidize broadband. The agency's plan will lay out several options to pay for the proposals it outlined Friday, including one that would require no additional money from Congress and one that would accelerate the construction of broadband networks if Congress approves a one-time injection of $9 billion. Either way, Levin stressed, the proposal would not increase the annual size of the Universal Service Fund, but rather would take money from subsidies now used for voice services. The FCC would also seek to save money by subsidizing no more than one broadband provider in an areas. Some critics of the program have complained that wireless companies now overlay landline systems with new networks considered duplicative. Levin said Connect America would not favor one technology over another, be it cable, DSL or wireless. The FCC proposal also envisions revamping the multibillion-dollar intercarrier compensation system, the Byzantine menu of charges that telecom carriers pay to access each other's networks and connect calls. Any changes to the Universal Service Fund would also require changes to intercarrier compensation because rural phone companies tend to rely heavily on both funding sources. The FCC's latest proposals will be part of a sweeping national roadmap for bringing universal, affordable broadband connections to all Americans. Although the plan is due on March 17, the agency has already begun releasing details, including a proposal to make more wireless spectrum available for mobile broadband connections by letting television broadcasters and others voluntarily cede some airwaves. Some of the proposals will likely require congressional action, while others might be up to the FCC to implement. Yahoo article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_hi_te/us_tec_fcc_universal_service;_ylt=AgSGtpiLKKQbXooR3LKvT.cPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTMzNGcwMmcyBGFzc2V0Ay9hcC8yMDEwMDMwNS9hcF9vbl9oaV90ZS91c190ZWNfZmNjX3VuaXZlcnNhbF9zZXJ2aWNlBHBvcwM3BHNlYwN5bl90b21ic3RvbmUEc2xrA2ZjY3RvcHJvcG9zZQ-- -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? Anyone have any thoughts on it? thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Samboy To: advertiseme...@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:06 PM Subject: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers SPECIAL OFFER FOR ALL WISPA MEMBERS! Propel Data Compressor Cost-Effective Network Data Reduction and Acceleration Made Simple Increase Customer Retention While Reducing Bandwidth Costs Propel Data Compressor is a true win-win for you and your customers. Your customers enjoy the fastest web experience possible while you enjoy lower infrastructure and operating costs. Propel¹s patented compression technology reduces HTTP data by 70% to 90% while maintaining graphics quality. Connections below 2 Mbps receive significant acceleration in addition to data reduction. Deployment is fast and easy. Propel can have you up and running in a week or less. Stand out from the crowd by offering the best data reduction and acceleration service on the market today. Benefits - 100% Propel hosted - No equipment to buy! - Reduce CAPEX requirements by servicing more users per segment - Receive maximum data reduction while retaining content quality - Improve user experience by increasing download speeds, reducing network congestion and improving service in marginal areas Features - Zero administration and maintenance - Simple authentication integration via RADIUS or IP Range - Highly scalable - Carrier-Class solution First Month Free For All WISPA Members! Propel would like to give WISPA members the first month of service free! Contact me today to find out about our free, no-obligation trial of Propel Data Compressor. You can reach me by email at msam...@propel.com or by phone at 408-571-6500. Thank you for your time. Mike Samboy V.P. Sales Marketing Propel Software Corporation 1010 Rincon Circle San Jose, CA 95131 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they haven't made any new software for a long time as well. http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating systems and browsers. I have no idea how it compares with propel. On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not have an internal dns caching system - so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote: You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they haven't made any new software for a long time as well. http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating systems and browsers. I have no idea how it compares with propel. On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
I'd love to know how it works Without knowing that, I can't even guess if it would be useful to me. Blair Glenn Kelley wrote: The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not have an internal dns caching system - so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote: You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they haven't made any new software for a long time as well. http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating systems and browsers. I have no idea how it compares with propel. On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
Rick,I have done alot of digging and cannot find anything either on the -x. You may have lucked out and got some usable andrew sectors.I wish I could run into a deal like that!I was referring to my experience with most sectors in that range being x-pol for cell use,but before those days we did deploy those on some beach-side towers for moto privacy plus in 900. --- On Mon, 3/8/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:59 AM Even though the datasheet says v-pol? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: from my experience the x means x-pol or 45 degree pol ,likely designed for iden 900? --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:57 PM Only thing I would be worried about is picking up interference in the 800 MHz range. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Label says 870MHz - 960 MHz, 90 degree, V-Pol. Part#DB844H90E-X. Cant find documents for the -X but -XY is attached. So, will they work with XR-9's? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can they still be used? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity. A lot of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or horiz but stock in between. Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N male. If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list. I have those comming out of my. But check the polarity Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:29:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors A Cell company gave me some old 900Mhz sector antennas. They said nothing wrong with them, they're just not using those frequencies any more. The label is marked for 890-940Mhz. Any issues with using them? Also, they have Heliax (female) connectors. Where can I get pigtails that convert them to N-Female? -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ DB844H90E-XY.pdf --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA
[WISPA] dual polarity panels
I know the subject has come up recently, but I am interested in hearing if anybody has had some good experiences with 120 degree dual polarity sectors. I am looking for 2.4 and 5.7. Thanks! Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 Mike's http://www.tamatoledonews.com/page/category.detail/nav/5001/Local-Columns.h tml Weekly Column 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Fwd: Access at sites
Looking for Wireless Access in Texas Minnesota. Faisal. Original Message Subject:Access at sites Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 18:10:46 -0500 Hi, I have some colleagues that are interested in service in the following locations, and wondering if anyone can do T1/Wireless, or knows anyone that can. Please contact me off-list.. Thanks, Carlos. 240 FM 3451 SAN AUGUSTINE, TX 75972 936-275- 201 FM 3451 San Augustine, TX 75972 936-275- 1000 Hwy 96 San Augustine, TX 75972 936-288- 3880 4th Ave East Shakopee, MN 55379 952-567- - Carlos M. Perez CMP Consulting Services 305-669-1515 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] dual frequency panels
Sheesh . I meant dual frequency, not dual polarity. Anybody have good experiences with 120 degree dual frequency panels? I want to replace 3 2.4s with a 2.4/5.7 setups. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 Mike's http://www.tamatoledonews.com/page/category.detail/nav/5001/Local-Columns.h tml Weekly Column 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels
Radiowaves Mike wrote: Sheesh . I meant dual frequency, not dual polarity. Anybody have good experiences with 120 degree dual frequency panels? I want to replace 3 2.4s with a 2.4/5.7 setups. Friendly Regards, Mike Mike Gilchrist Disruptive Technologist Advanced Wireless Express P.O. Box 255 Toledo, IA 52342 Mike's http://www.tamatoledonews.com/page/category.detail/nav/5001/Local-Columns.h tml Weekly Column 239.770.6203 m...@aweiowa.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels
Bob, Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed. Do you have a link? Do you use a dual freq radiowave? Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels Radiowaves WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels
Plural. www.radiowavesinc.com SEC-2V-5H-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz Vertical 5 GHz. Horizontal. SEC-2H-5V-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz horizontal 5 GHz Vertical They also make a 60 degree. Just change the 90 to a 60 in the number above. Used them once. No problems to report. They are a very responsive company. Call their engineering staff if you have any questions. -B- Mike wrote: Bob, Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed. Do you have a link? Do you use a dual freq radiowave? Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels Radiowaves WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels
Wasn't the thought the 90s really covered more than 90? 120 degree dual banders seem to be rare? I want to replace a 3 2.4 degree sector tower with dual band panels with the same coverage. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels Plural. www.radiowavesinc.com SEC-2V-5H-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz Vertical 5 GHz. Horizontal. SEC-2H-5V-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz horizontal 5 GHz Vertical They also make a 60 degree. Just change the 90 to a 60 in the number above. Used them once. No problems to report. They are a very responsive company. Call their engineering staff if you have any questions. -B- Mike wrote: Bob, Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed. Do you have a link? Do you use a dual freq radiowave? Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels Radiowaves WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
Sounds like an HTTP proxy doesn't it? I'm running for the hills!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: I'd love to know how it works Without knowing that, I can't even guess if it would be useful to me. Blair Glenn Kelley wrote: The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not have an internal dns caching system - so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote: You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they haven't made any new software for a long time as well. http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating systems and browsers. I have no idea how it compares with propel. On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels
Mike, John at Superpass has some 120 DualBand Sectors. http://superpass.com/SPD-GSH2T-J12T.html, $299 http://superpass.com/SPD-GSH4T-J6T.html. $359. Respectfully, Rick Harnish -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 7:21 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels Wasn't the thought the 90s really covered more than 90? 120 degree dual banders seem to be rare? I want to replace a 3 2.4 degree sector tower with dual band panels with the same coverage. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels Plural. www.radiowavesinc.com SEC-2V-5H-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz Vertical 5 GHz. Horizontal. SEC-2H-5V-90* is 90 degrees 2.4 GHz horizontal 5 GHz Vertical They also make a 60 degree. Just change the 90 to a 60 in the number above. Used them once. No problems to report. They are a very responsive company. Call their engineering staff if you have any questions. -B- Mike wrote: Bob, Looking on radiowaveinc.com I don't see one listed. Do you have a link? Do you use a dual freq radiowave? Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bob Moldashel Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:51 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] dual frequency panels Radiowaves --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- - WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- - WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.435 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2730 - Release Date: 03/08/10 19:33:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
With weather like this today, the hills might be a nice change. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers Sounds like an HTTP proxy doesn't it? I'm running for the hills!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: I'd love to know how it works Without knowing that, I can't even guess if it would be useful to me. Blair Glenn Kelley wrote: The biggest issue I found w/ zipproxy (and I like it) is that it does not have an internal dns caching system - so each time a hostname is hit - it tries to resolve it So - if you use it - make sure to install a dns caching system along w/ it Also - make sure to run as a daemon as well. _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:57 PM, jp wrote: You mean like Proxyconn? We used to use that, but stopped because they haven't made any new software for a long time as well. http://ziproxy.sourceforge.net/ is what we replaced it with. Basically ziproxy being the customer facing side of a squid server. Even speeds up 1mbps sort of connections, though not as dramatically as dialup. And of course since it's just a proxy setting, it works with all operating systems and browsers. I have no idea how it compares with propel. On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:56:22PM -0600, David E. Smith wrote: On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from PropelSoftware for WISPAmembers
If you really check into it, it is a data compression deal. Much like zipping up the data with winzip before it crosses the data layer. I really do not see how it can help with broadband in any sense. I used to use the same type deals on dial-up. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:56:22 -0600 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISPA Approved Ad] Special offer from Propel Software for WISPAmembers
Almost all HTTP content is gzip'ed already. I doubt any compression above that is going to be worth the CPU time cost. Even if the software was free, who would support the people who are terrified to install anything at all? On 3/9/10, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: If you really check into it, it is a data compression deal. Much like zipping up the data with winzip before it crosses the data layer. I really do not see how it can help with broadband in any sense. I used to use the same type deals on dial-up. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:56:22 -0600 On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 13:45, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: OK, this looks interesting. It would be nice to drop the amount of data across especially busy parts of the network! Anyone else used this or something similar? This looks a lot like the dialup accelerator software packages that were all the rage several years ago. I'd just about bet Propel's service requires software to be installed on the customer's PC. Assuming that's the case, you won't be able to install it on a Netflix box or a PS3 or basically anything that's not a standard desktop computer. Thus, depending on your customer base, you may not see all that much traffic reduction. We have something similar, from another vendor. It works well enough, though we were marketing it primarily towards dialup users; at the time (several years ago) the effects on a 1Mbps connection were negligible. This probably has changed over time, but our vendor wanted a crazy amount of money to sell us an update that would be compatible with Windows Vista, so we haven't really tested it in quite a while. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Wireless High Speed Broadband service from Info-Ed, Inc. as low as $30.00/mth. Check out www.info-ed.com/wireless.html for information. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors
Jason, I truly appreciate your checking. I have a few contacts at Andrew. I'll try to contact them as get the low down. Thanks again! On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Rick,I have done alot of digging and cannot find anything either on the -x. You may have lucked out and got some usable andrew sectors.I wish I could run into a deal like that!I was referring to my experience with most sectors in that range being x-pol for cell use,but before those days we did deploy those on some beach-side towers for moto privacy plus in 900. --- On Mon, 3/8/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 11:59 AM Even though the datasheet says v-pol? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: from my experience the x means x-pol or 45 degree pol ,likely designed for iden 900? --- On Sun, 3/7/10, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:57 PM Only thing I would be worried about is picking up interference in the 800 MHz range. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Label says 870MHz - 960 MHz, 90 degree, V-Pol. Part#DB844H90E-X. Cant find documents for the -X but -XY is attached. So, will they work with XR-9's? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:14 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I'll check those model numbers. If they are 45 degree units, can they still be used? -RickG On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote: Rick You need to search the model numvers on line and verify polarity. A lot of cell antennas are 45 degree cross pol. So they are not vert or horiz but stock in between. Jumpers for these are easy to find on Ebay. You need DIN male to N male. If 3' jumpers work for you hit me off list. I have those comming out of my. But check the polarity Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:29:57 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 900Mhz sectors A Cell company gave me some old 900Mhz sector antennas. They said nothing wrong with them, they're just not using those frequencies any more. The label is marked for 890-940Mhz. Any issues with using them? Also, they have Heliax (female) connectors. Where can I get pigtails that convert them to N-Female? -RickG --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ DB844H90E-XY.pdf --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
