Have you tested pseudobridge to achieve a similar affect without WDS?
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From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net]
Sent: 28 April 2010 01:41
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ever wonder how bad RB333/444 stacked cards interfere?
Yes, WDS adds
I agree that Coding is not equal to Networking. But as I noted...
programming IOS or even chucking in routes using command-line on Mikrotik
looks like coding.
I guess my point was that if you want to start a WISP, be prepared to get
your hands dirty. At some point, you are likely to find the
Larry is correct. I've went towards Mikrotik in these instances due to the
overwhelming amount of Go To people and a Wiki on just about anything
Mikrotik out there. Not to mention the cut and paste drop in scripts
available.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
If the link is good I would enable nstreme. Pay attention to your over
the air rates. If they tend to ³flap² I would lock out the higher rates.
You will get a better CCQ out of the link by doing that. If it were me I
would enable WDS unless you are using the ³CPE² end as a station in router
What 350mw card are you using? I wouldn't use anything less than XR5 or R5H
because their receive sensitivity is so much better. Plus you will use MMCX
connectors with these two cards which is going to save you a lot of
headaches over u.fl. Also definitely turn on N-stream. I had a link that was
Have you used the r5h? The r52n is very disappointing.
On 4/28/10, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote:
What 350mw card are you using? I wouldn't use anything less than XR5 or R5H
because their receive sensitivity is so much better. Plus you will use MMCX
connectors with these two cards
FWIW I've been very pleased with the R52HN.
On 4/28/2010 8:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Have you used the r5h? The r52n is very disappointing.
On 4/28/10, Kurt Fankhauserk...@wavelinc.com wrote:
What 350mw card are you using? I wouldn't use anything less than XR5 or R5H
because their
Very few but not zero...Wispmon will manage just about all daily operational
aspects of a WISP. It was designed to do just that. FYI.
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Larry Yunker leyun...@wispadvantage.comwrote:
For what it is worth... running a successful WISP will require a certain
level of
Me too. Power output is the same as the SR5 (tested on a 30 mile link),
yet the receive level is 6db better. :)
Travis
Microserv
Randy Cosby wrote:
FWIW I've been very pleased with the R52HN.
On 4/28/2010 8:30 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Have you used the r5h? The r52n is very
I did fine with the R52HN cards until one of the RouterOS upgrades and my
performance dropped.
Swapped them all out. Using them in laptops now where they do a darn good
job.
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
What about N-stream with 900Mhz? Is that just asking for trouble?
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:23 AM
To: aajayi...@as-technologies.com; 'WISPA General List'
I run all my rb411/XR9 setups with nstream. Seams to keep em nice and steady.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Robert West
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010
Pretty sure it's just Atheros.
Haven't tried nstreme and Prism...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010
With one radio. So if using one radio, do you add a second antenna to the
setup to give you full duplex or how are you setting it all up? I've only
seen it running with dual cards so I'm kinda interested in the single card
setup.
Bob-
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From:
I think you are talking NSTREME dual tab on the wireless table. That is for
full duplex which some love and some hate.
If you go into the individual wireless card interface there is a Nstreme tab to
enable and disable that on that one card.
From MT Nstreme pdf:
The nstreme protocol is
Yep, you're right. Wasn't aware of using on single card. Thanks!
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT PtP
I think
Works good for me.
Robert West wrote:
What about N-stream with 900Mhz? Is that just asking for trouble?
Bob-
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:23 AM
To:
Works on Prism, but ALL cards connected to AP must be Prism
Josh Luthman wrote:
Pretty sure it's just Atheros.
Haven't tried nstreme and Prism...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal:
Larry , Shmary, he don't know jack about running a xISP. Just kidding, Larry
knows more about being an xISP than Jer.
;)
-- Original Message --
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Date: Wed, 28 Apr
I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a
few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to
limit everyone to the contracted speeds, but would like to use tc filter
rules to give KNOWN GOOD traffic a good priority and UNKNOWN traffic a
lesser
Marco:
Toledo, IA. South Tama County. West of Cedar Rapids; east of Marshalltown.
(out in the sticks)
Friendly Regards,
Mike
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marco Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 11:47 AM
How much throughput are you getting on the 900mhz with N-stream? 10mhz and
5mhz channels?
Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent:
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Yes I have used the R5H and LOVE IT. Very nice card and a good price. I
think it performs better than the XR5. However some people say that the card
burns up easily but I run them all locked at 20db power output for all the
modulation rates. I do this for two reasons. First so that the signal
I use 20 MHz channels and don't have any I can turn down to get a test at the
moment. Usually get 4-5 MB at the best.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of
I've had two burn out from the connector popping off for whatever reason. I
learned to tape them on after that. But even with that, I finally pulled
them all down. But they really do make for a great dual band card for
laptops, the R52H ones, that is. Since we run both 2.4 and 5.8 I can see
We are looking into a mast/tv tower type product for our client
installations, I'm interested what others are using to accomplish this
today. Looking for the best compromise between low cost and labor.
Regards
Michael Baird
Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote:
I am finding that I need to improve the QOS of my network (I picked up a
few customers with lots of teens, etc). Right now I use tc rules to
Mmcx connector popped off???
On 4/28/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I've had two burn out from the connector popping off for whatever reason. I
learned to tape them on after that. But even with that, I finally pulled
them all down. But they really do make for a great dual
What is the general or best case throughput on these radios in PTP
configuration (speed/distance)? I googled for it, but saw a lot of very
old post with conflicting info. I need to build a backup link for one of
our primary's and if the MT's can do the job all the better!
Kurt Fankhauser
Is there no script that does something similar that is in the public domain?
Even something basic to start with?
Greg
On Apr 28, 2010, at 2:26 PM, RickG wrote:
Contact Butch Evans, pay small amount for his script, problem solved! -RickG
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jason Wallace
For me every install is different so other than the j-arm mounts, it's a
crap shoot on what we need. I keep my eye out for used tower sections and
even knock on doors to see if I can have old American Tower TV towers that
are no longer needed. Plus the local scrap yard keeps an eye out too so
Go figure.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT PtP
Mmcx connector popped off???
On 4/28/10, Robert West
I had a link with XR5 at each end with 2ft dishes at each end that was 18.5
miles with no issue. I needed more throughput so went to Radwin radios with
the same antennas.
Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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From:
Oh, no, not the MMCX! That stupid U.fl crap. Love the MMCX.
All my MT cards are u.fl, I couldn't afford the MMCX MT. Crazy premium for
good connectors.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday,
I'm currently using tc in linux but have been debating on loading
Mikrotic's RouterOS onto a high-end server and have it handle the QoS
for our network as it seems a lot easier to configure. Is anyone else
doing this and have you found it to work well?
Greg Ihnen wrote:
Is there no script
Some people say there is 1db or 2db loss on the pigtail due to the MMCX
connector. This is not the MMCX connectors fault but it is due to the
connector being a right angle connector. I finally caught on to this when
I was testing a right angle barrel N-connector versus a straight barrel
Dozens of people including myself do QOS on MT with good x86 hardware.
We are all very happy.
On 4/28/10, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote:
I'm currently using tc in linux but have been debating on loading
Mikrotic's RouterOS onto a high-end server and have it handle the QoS
for our
For ufl use hot glue. Works wonders. Little dab around the connector
and another to attach the coax to the minipci board for leverage.
On 4/28/10, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Oh, no, not the MMCX! That stupid U.fl crap. Love the MMCX.
All my MT cards are u.fl, I couldn't
For a tower mount I would definitely usee WB's tower mount. It's new
to the market but been used for their own WISP.
I think it's wb-tow or wb-twr at wbmfg.com
On 4/28/10, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:
We are looking into a mast/tv tower type product for our client
installations, I'm
I can drive to American Tower from my house and get there in 20 minutes :)
If you are looking for anything that's not an actual tower check out this
company. http://www.skywalker.com/
I use them for roof mounts, mast mounts, and any other kind of mount you
didn't even know existed they have
Can you give me a physical address and who is the LEC?
marco
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Mike m...@aweiowa.com wrote:
Marco:
Toledo, IA. South Tama County. West of Cedar Rapids; east of Marshalltown.
(out in the sticks)
Friendly Regards,
Mike
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From:
Rick,
I had considered that. Then I read Butch's blog about when he
developed it, and there were a few things that I think would prevent it
from working correctly in my network:
1. His script seems to be tailored for RouterOS; he mentions that the
script uses the PCQ qdisc (which is RouterOS
I started my linux experience with Mastershaper - www.mastershaper.org
If you can play with a system, set an IP address, have it generate all
the rules for you, you'd be able to generate all other rules per IP off
of that.
The project looked to be dead for a while, but it's getting a little
I would advise MT for traffic shaping. ImageStream and a lot of work
can do stuff, too.
I'd stay away from anything that takes a lot of effort like tc. 50
bucks will save you a LOT of time. As we all know time=money.
On 4/28/10, Jason Wallace supp...@azii.net wrote:
Rick,
I had
The right angle N connector should not be trusted unless it is an Amphenol.
Many of the imports have a ball point pen spring inside that does the right
angle.
Good ones have an actual piece of metal.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every
penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure, a guy could
sit there and build it himself but whats the time worth. Obviously,
there is no one size fits all so perhaps Butch has another or can
tailor it to fit your
The template itself is quite dynamic but just mention any individual things
that require addition attention.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
---
Ive never had a problem keeping them on, just taking them off. For example,
if having a link problem, and want to swap mPCI to see if it helps.
Thats when UFls can break, and why I prefer MMCX.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message
Rick,
Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision
making and changes parameters?
Greg
On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:53 PM, RickG wrote:
I understand. His script truly improved my network and was worth every
penny. It is obvious he put a lot of time into it. Sure,
I have seen Pseudobridge on the Mikrotik side give OSPF issues. For the
customer side no issues. But with OSPF and pseudobridge you have duplicate
Mac addresses due to the nature of how it works. This can cause issues when
running OSPF, at least in our experience. Had a network of 90 some
Yup... same here. OSPF does not work with anything but WDS.
Travis
Microserv
Justin Wilson wrote:
I have seen Pseudobridge on the Mikrotik side give OSPF issues. For the
customer side no issues. But with OSPF and pseudobridge you have duplicate
Mac addresses due to the nature of how it
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2010/04/26/costly-irs-mandate-slipped-into-health-bill/
It requires 1099's for EVERY entity you do more than $600 business with a
year.
Gas station. Walmart, your landlord, a $700 used car or truck.Ebay
purchases, ALL require 1099's now if you go over $600 a
This is not correct. Please don't spread FUD.
Check with your CPA to find out who and when you need to 1099.
Only Individuals get 1099s, and only for services- not merchandise.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of MDK
This has always been in effect for individuals. Its not for entities and its
surely not new
-B-
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:40:21
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA]
Quickbooks can spit them out for you easily and automatically. Sure, it will
take some time to collect TINs the first year it's in effect, but after that,
the work is only incremental and highly automatable.
Dave
MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
It looks to me like there might have been a change ralph
On 4/28/2010 7:48 PM, Ralph wrote:
This is not correct. Please don't spread FUD.
Check with your CPA to find out who and when you need to 1099.
Only Individuals get 1099s, and only for services- not merchandise.
-Original
We passed 100 followers on Twitter today. While it isn't that many, I have
a feeling many WISPs don't even use Twitter yet. It is a powerful tool for
WISPA to get the word out on new posts on the webpage, tradeshow info and
other important announcements we want to make to anyone who wants to
Who is Jack?
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From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP
Larry , Shmary, he don't know jack about running a xISP. Just kidding,
Larry knows more about
I use a hammer. works well.
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT PtP
For ufl use hot glue. Works wonders. Little dab around the connector
and
I'll just keep doing what I'm doing no matter what stuff is inserted in
whatever. I'l probably be one of everyone else in ignoring it.
Bob-
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From: MDK rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:40 PM
Butch added queue trees and some other stuff. The best thing to do is ask him.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
Rick,
Are you talking about a static config, or a script which does decision
making and changes parameters?
Greg
On Apr 28, 2010,
That helps with the frustration! I recommend a 5 pound sledge :)
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I use a hammer. works well.
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From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Ralph,
Which part of Basically, businesses will have to issue 1099s whenever
they do more than $600 of business with another entity in a year. is
FUD?
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:
This is not correct. Please don't spread FUD.
Check with your CPA to find
Well all it is is in /ip firewall mangle and /queue tree but that's like
saying all I need is Internet. Is that just IP with no DNS?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
Isn't that how it goes though? How much time and/or expense does it
take to run your business for work that has nothing to do with your
service? With all due respect, just because Quickbooks can do it
easily doesnt mean it should be imposed on a business owner. And
when you get down to it, when
Heck, I would've wanted to type all the lines of code he put in
there, let alone make sure it works! It wouldve taken me hours if not
days!
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
Well all it is is in /ip firewall mangle and /queue tree but that's like
I think you mean would not have wanted to...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
that counts.”
--- Winston Churchill
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:24 AM, RickG
Well, let me log in and test...
A note: the local environment has lots of noise...
All H-Pol
5MHz channel width
tower A is seen at -60, sees AP at -59 connection shows
54Mbps/4/54Mbps/4 Thruput AP to tower 6.4Mbps, tower to AP 5.9MBps
tower B is seen at -77, sees AP at -77 connection
Noted. Thanks, Rick!
You da man!
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From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT PtP
That helps with the frustration! I recommend a 5 pound sledge :)
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010
Rick, I love ya. If you were a woman I'd divorce ya though.
- Original Message -
From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT PtP
Noted. Thanks, Rick!
You da man!
-
both? A lazy rebel?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
I just ignore.
This is why I'm always in trouble.
Screw em. I'm either a rebel or lazy. You decide.
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From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General
LOL! See what I mean :)
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
I think you mean would not have wanted to...
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not
Thank God for the small favors as well as the big ones ;)
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
Rick, I love ya. If you were a woman I'd divorce ya though.
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From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com
To: WISPA General
You got it, brother.
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From: Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] You're going to love this... New IRS rules
both? A lazy rebel?
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at
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