Re: [WISPA] Autoreply: Wireless Digest, Vol 32, Issue 21
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Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
It looks like yet another attempt at satellite broadband. More big bucks to outer space! Spectrum assets and financing. *LightSquared* already owns valuable high quality spectrum assets, including 59 Mhz of nationwide ubiquitous spectrum in an advantageous frequency position. In addition to the $2.9 billion of assets already contributed by Harbinger Capital Partners and affiliates,*LightSquared* has additional debt and equity financing of up to $1.75 billion. Harbinger Capital Partners Harbinger Capital Partners is a leading private investment fund based in New York with $10 billion in assets under management. The firm was founded in 2001 and employs a fundamental approach to deep value and distressed credit investing. Harbinger is led by Philip A. Falcone, its Chief Executive Officer, who has over 20 years of investment experience across an array of market cycles. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://www.lightsquared.com/about-us/ Anyone following these guys? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BGP / OSPF Routing Help
Hi, You really didn't explain what issues you're experiencing in your test bed, but it sounds like you want simple iBGP peering. You'd do something like this on both routers. /routing bgp peer add instance=default remote-address=192.0.2.1 remote-as=36295 update-source=loopback0 If you wanted to include R3 in your BGP config without having to build a full mesh between all routers then you want to make one router a Route Reflector (ie. R1). ## R1 /routing bgp instance set default client-to-client-reflection=yes /routing bgp peer add instance=default remote-address=192.0.2.2 remote-as=36295 update-source=loopback0 route-reflect=yes add instance=default remote-address=192.0.2.3 remote-as=36295 update-source=loopback0 route-reflect=yes ## R2 R3 /routing bgp peer add instance=default remote-address=192.0.2.1 remote-as=36295 update-source=loopback0 R1 will advertise routes received from R2 to R3, and vice versa thus eliminating the need for the configuration of a full mesh. I'd like to know more about the issues you're having in your test bed as iBGP is usually a fairly straightforward setup. -- Blake Covarrubias On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: From what you have described, your probably want to run a BGP Route Refelctors... see page 50 of enclosed cisco doc. I cannot tell you how to implement that on a mikrotik, but in these pages you will see many scenarios that should give you the network design info you are looking for. Regards Faisal -- Original Message -- From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Reply-To: sc...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:35:59 -0400 I need some assistance... I currently have two upstream connections at 100MB with a full BGP feed each into Mikrotik x86 routers wich are also running OSPF facing internally - no routes are distributed from BGP to OSPF. The two BGP routers are located in two different cities and do not share BGP information between themselves - they are basically used to advertise out the networks to control the flow of traffic coming into our network. Same upstream provider so they would have the same outgoing tables anyway. We use OSPF path costs to direct outgoing traffic to the closest BGO router and basically the networks advertised follow the same paths in as out. The /21s are advertised on both BGP routers with the /24s advertised to steer the inbound traffic through the same router the outbound traffic goes out. Ok, that all works textbook style, no problems easy to manage for both OSPF (one internal area) and BGP. Now we need more bandwidth and have reached out to grab another provider with 100MB circuit in another city. This is a different provider than the other two existing BGP routers are peered with and now there is a desire to have the BGP routers on my network exchange routes and select the best outgoing router based on the full BGP routing tables. It's kind of hard to explain without the picture of the network to understand so here is a quick hand-drawn sketch of what the network layout looks like. Sorry its a mess just did it real quick while typing this email http://www.brevardwireless.com/files/networkpic.pdf I'm not really worried about router #3 participating in the BGP table exchanges because I will soon consolidate router #2 and #3 into the same router and combine bandwidth feeds into one fiber as well. So for sake of discussion BGP router #3 does not exist, I drew it for completeness of my current situation. I'm guessing I need to upgrade the tower routers on tower C and E to routers powerful enough to handle BGP and I have placed RB1100 on each so they are there. Not interested in hearing about my router selections, just how to configure routing protocols to accomplish my goals (thanks). We have attempted in testbed with 4 BGP routers in a row like they are on the network map with a full feed on each end and we are having a lot of luck. Not sure if our testbed is fouled or it we just need more of a BGP clue. Either way, some assistance would be greatly appreciated. My preference is to not have BGP and OSPF exchange routes. Since the BGP routers traverse the middle of my network I'll let OSPF do its magic of getting to the closest gateway and then let BGP direct it from there. Once a packet hits any BGP router it will not have to cross a non-BGP router before it goes out in all cases. I have considered professional consultation and will need to go there pending no internal progress on reaching our goals. I'd rather ask first and learn myself and be able to manage what I have running without having outside 3rd party reliance. Most of you probably understand that decision :) Any way, if you have read this far and suffered through my network pic then thank you very much.
Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
Yikes! Very Interesting. Blake Bowers wrote: http://www.lightsquared.com/about-us/ Anyone following these guys? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh
On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Ralph wrote: I have one or two Ruckus CPEs (the ones that look like Pacman) I intend to try on one of our 4 muni mesh systems, but as of yet have not had a chance. We use a lot of the Pepwave/Peplinks though. Out of curiosity - what mesh algorithm does Pepwave actually use? a. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
Actually they are going to build a terrestrial network using satellite bands Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:20 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like yet another attempt at satellite broadband. More big bucks to outer space! Spectrum assets and financing. LightSquared already owns valuable high quality spectrum assets, including 59 Mhz of nationwide ubiquitous spectrum in an advantageous frequency position. In addition to the $2.9 billion of assets already contributed by Harbinger Capital Partners and affiliates,LightSquared has additional debt and equity financing of up to $1.75 billion. Harbinger Capital Partners Harbinger Capital Partners is a leading private investment fund based in New York with $10 billion in assets under management. The firm was founded in 2001 and employs a fundamental approach to deep value and distressed credit investing. Harbinger is led by Philip A. Falcone, its Chief Executive Officer, who has over 20 years of investment experience across an array of market cycles. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://www.lightsquared.com/about-us/ Anyone following these guys? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BGP / OSPF Routing Help
You could do it a couple ways. First, use BGP multihop inside your network to connect all three routers. Second, use a tunnel to connect them with normal BGP. Then, traffic will go out the best BGP route. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey
Results: http://bit.ly/9wUy4G My apologies on the delay on getting these back to everyone. Thank you to everyone that participated! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I was thinking about CPE monitoring today and wondering if/how everyone is doing it. I've got a brief (8 easy questions) survey at http://bit.ly/cpesurvey If you can spare a minute or two to fill it out I'd be very grateful. Of course, the results will be shared in aggregate. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey
That link Requires a login is there a way you could post it otherwise. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Results: http://bit.ly/9wUy4G My apologies on the delay on getting these back to everyone. Thank you to everyone that participated! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I was thinking about CPE monitoring today and wondering if/how everyone is doing it. I've got a brief (8 easy questions) survey at http://bit.ly/cpesurvey If you can spare a minute or two to fill it out I'd be very grateful. Of course, the results will be shared in aggregate. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey
Sorry about that. I've edited the link to go to a PDF print of the results. Looks like Google Docs doesn't want to share the results without a login. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: That link Requires a login is there a way you could post it otherwise. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Results: http://bit.ly/9wUy4G My apologies on the delay on getting these back to everyone. Thank you to everyone that participated! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I was thinking about CPE monitoring today and wondering if/how everyone is doing it. I've got a brief (8 easy questions) survey at http://bit.ly/cpesurvey If you can spare a minute or two to fill it out I'd be very grateful. Of course, the results will be shared in aggregate. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey
New message: It looks like the form How do you monitor your CPE? is turned off. Try contacting the owner of the form if you think this is a mistake. Visit our help centerhttp://docs.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=15166 Luis Abenza Sánchez Desarrollo de Negocio Free Technologies Excom, S.L. http://www.excom.es Tel. 902 02 02 34 Fax 902 87 66 41 AVISO LEGAL Este mensaje es CONFIDENCIAL, siendo para uso exclusivo de su destinatario. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, reenvíe el mensaje inmediatamente a la dirección remitente y proceda a su borrado. Free Technologies Excom, S.L. incluirá su dirección de correo electrónico, así como los datos de contacto que le facilite en un fichero automatizado, con el fin de gestionar el envío de comunicaciones profesionales y/o personales. Para ejercitar sus derechos de acceso, rectificación, cancelación y oposición, remita su solicitud a: Free Technologies Excom, S.L. - Avda. de la Industria, nº 37, 39, Of. 3 - 4 - 28108, Alcobendas (Madrid). LEGAL NOTICE This message is CONFIDENTIAL, being for exclusive use of the addressee. If you are not the address, please forward this message to sender inmediately and arrange for its deletion. Free Technologies Excom, S.L. will include your address and contact details in an automated file, in order to manage the delivery of business and personal communications. To exercise your rights of access, rectification, cancellation and opposition, send your request to: Free Technologies Excom, s.l. - Avda. de la Industria, nº 37, 39, Of. 3 - 4 - 28108, Alcobendas (Madrid). 2010/8/10 Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net Sorry about that. I've edited the link to go to a PDF print of the results. Looks like Google Docs doesn't want to share the results without a login. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: That link Requires a login is there a way you could post it otherwise. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Results: http://bit.ly/9wUy4G My apologies on the delay on getting these back to everyone. Thank you to everyone that participated! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I was thinking about CPE monitoring today and wondering if/how everyone is doing it. I've got a brief (8 easy questions) survey at http://bit.ly/cpesurvey If you can spare a minute or two to fill it out I'd be very grateful. Of course, the results will be shared in aggregate. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey
Try this one: http://www.coldshore.com/~jda/CPESurvey.pdf 2010/8/10 Luis Abenza Sánchez l...@excom.es: New message: It looks like the form How do you monitor your CPE? is turned off. Try contacting the owner of the form if you think this is a mistake. Visit our help center Luis Abenza Sánchez Desarrollo de Negocio Free Technologies Excom, S.L. http://www.excom.es Tel. 902 02 02 34 Fax 902 87 66 41 AVISO LEGAL Este mensaje es CONFIDENCIAL, siendo para uso exclusivo de su destinatario. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor, reenvíe el mensaje inmediatamente a la dirección remitente y proceda a su borrado. Free Technologies Excom, S.L. incluirá su dirección de correo electrónico, así como los datos de contacto que le facilite en un fichero automatizado, con el fin de gestionar el envío de comunicaciones profesionales y/o personales. Para ejercitar sus derechos de acceso, rectificación, cancelación y oposición, remita su solicitud a: Free Technologies Excom, S.L. - Avda. de la Industria, nº 37, 39, Of. 3 - 4 - 28108, Alcobendas (Madrid). LEGAL NOTICE This message is CONFIDENTIAL, being for exclusive use of the addressee. If you are not the address, please forward this message to sender inmediately and arrange for its deletion. Free Technologies Excom, S.L. will include your address and contact details in an automated file, in order to manage the delivery of business and personal communications. To exercise your rights of access, rectification, cancellation and opposition, send your request to: Free Technologies Excom, s.l. - Avda. de la Industria, nº 37, 39, Of. 3 - 4 - 28108, Alcobendas (Madrid). 2010/8/10 Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net Sorry about that. I've edited the link to go to a PDF print of the results. Looks like Google Docs doesn't want to share the results without a login. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: That link Requires a login is there a way you could post it otherwise. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Results: http://bit.ly/9wUy4G My apologies on the delay on getting these back to everyone. Thank you to everyone that participated! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I was thinking about CPE monitoring today and wondering if/how everyone is doing it. I've got a brief (8 easy questions) survey at http://bit.ly/cpesurvey If you can spare a minute or two to fill it out I'd be very grateful. Of course, the results will be shared in aggregate. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey
So far it doesn't work, and the coldshore link returns a blank page for me. How about just putting the pdf someplace on your website and giving us a real link. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Sorry about that. I've edited the link to go to a PDF print of the results. Looks like Google Docs doesn't want to share the results without a login. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: That link Requires a login is there a way you could post it otherwise. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Results: http://bit.ly/9wUy4G My apologies on the delay on getting these back to everyone. Thank you to everyone that participated! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I was thinking about CPE monitoring today and wondering if/how everyone is doing it. I've got a brief (8 easy questions) survey at http://bit.ly/cpesurvey If you can spare a minute or two to fill it out I'd be very grateful. Of course, the results will be shared in aggregate. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh
Never asked because we don't use them for making the mesh. We use only Tropos, although 3 systems we did for another company required Cisco product. I will never deploy Cisco mess(h) again-LOL. The Peps are the CPEs we use. In a muni mesh, the CPE radios are clients, not part of the mesh. The Pep CPEs work great with Tropos and the Peps were actually the original recommended CPE for use with Google WiFi in Mountain View when they began. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of L. Aaron Kaplan Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:30 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:05 AM, Ralph wrote: I have one or two Ruckus CPEs (the ones that look like Pacman) I intend to try on one of our 4 muni mesh systems, but as of yet have not had a chance. We use a lot of the Pepwave/Peplinks though. Out of curiosity - what mesh algorithm does Pepwave actually use? a. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet
And it is a disaster and bait and switch scheme. Sure, don't discriminate on FIXED (don't be fooled by the term wireline), but choke the pipe so much that people will want to upgrade to premium services where content will be pay-per-view type. This about segmenting the Internet and to give carriers the keys to decide what content and application YOU want. What YOU want actually does not matter. The blogs are alive with outraged and panicked netroots people. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Hawthorne Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet It's Monday, here's what Google and Verizon were working on http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/google-verizon-propose-open-vs-pa id-internets/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-silver/google-verizon-deal-the-e_b_67 1617.html They are closing a deal with Verizon on Monday that will essentially blackmail content providers. Want your content to get through faster? Pay us. That is pretty much it in a nutshell. Maybe ISPs around the world should block Google entirely unless they pay you then. Patrick As an individual WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey
Same here. Says it's not a PDF or is corrupt. Leroy -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:19 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey So far it doesn't work, and the coldshore link returns a blank page for me. How about just putting the pdf someplace on your website and giving us a real link. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Sorry about that. I've edited the link to go to a PDF print of the results. Looks like Google Docs doesn't want to share the results without a login. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: That link Requires a login is there a way you could post it otherwise. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:04 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] CPE Monitoring Survey Results: http://bit.ly/9wUy4G My apologies on the delay on getting these back to everyone. Thank you to everyone that participated! On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: I was thinking about CPE monitoring today and wondering if/how everyone is doing it. I've got a brief (8 easy questions) survey at http://bit.ly/cpesurvey If you can spare a minute or two to fill it out I'd be very grateful. Of course, the results will be shared in aggregate. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
Do they have enough satellite frequencies that are low enough to work effectively for mobile use given the terrain and obstructions? Sent from my Mind... Gino Villarini wrote: Actually they are going to build a terrestrial network using satellite bands Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:20 AM, "RickG" rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like yet another attempt at satellite broadband. More big bucks to outer space! Spectrum assets and financing. LightSquared already owns valuable high quality spectrum assets, including 59 Mhz of nationwide ubiquitous spectrum in an advantageous frequency position. In addition to the $2.9 billion of assets already contributed by Harbinger Capital Partners and affiliates,LightSquared has additional debt and equity financing of up to $1.75 billion. Harbinger Capital Partners Harbinger Capital Partners is a leading private investment fund based in New York with $10 billion in assets under management. The firm was founded in 2001 and employs a fundamental approach to deep value and distressed credit investing. Harbinger is led by Philip A. Falcone, its Chief Executive Officer, who has over 20 years of investment experience across an array of market cycles. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://www.lightsquared.com/about-us/ Anyone following these guys? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
Although they do use that satellite word a lot, elsewhere in their page they talk about 40,000 cell sites - as in possibly they are doing their backhaul using satellite, but their last mile by terrestrial? I don't have a clue, but it appears they have a fairly big slug of money. One big warning flag I saw was they were talking about their satellite being built by Boeing right now - only one? No backup? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers It looks like yet another attempt at satellite broadband. More big bucks to outer space! Spectrum assets and financing. *LightSquared* already owns valuable high quality spectrum assets, including 59 Mhz of nationwide ubiquitous spectrum in an advantageous frequency position. In addition to the $2.9 billion of assets already contributed by Harbinger Capital Partners and affiliates,*LightSquared* has additional debt and equity financing of up to $1.75 billion. Harbinger Capital Partners Harbinger Capital Partners is a leading private investment fund based in New York with $10 billion in assets under management. The firm was founded in 2001 and employs a fundamental approach to deep value and distressed credit investing. Harbinger is led by Philip A. Falcone, its Chief Executive Officer, who has over 20 years of investment experience across an array of market cycles. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: http://www.lightsquared.com/about-us/ Anyone following these guys? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Nv2 wireless TDMA protocol
Sounds interesting. If UBNT and them could work together they would have something between the hardware and the OS The most important benefits of Nv2 are: - Increased speed - More client connections in PTM environments - Lower latency - No distance limitations - No penalty for long distances More information on Nv2: http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Interface/Wireless#Nv27 anyway another something new to play with. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet
Trust Google! After all, aren't they the Don't be Evil company? On 8/10/10 8:39 AM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: And it is a disaster and bait and switch scheme. Sure, don't discriminate on FIXED (don't be fooled by the term wireline), but choke the pipe so much that people will want to upgrade to premium services where content will be pay-per-view type. This about segmenting the Internet and to give carriers the keys to decide what content and application YOU want. What YOU want actually does not matter. The blogs are alive with outraged and panicked netroots people. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Hawthorne Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 3:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet It's Monday, here's what Google and Verizon were working on http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/google-verizon-propose-open-vs-pa id-internets/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Tell Google not to destroy the Internet http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-silver/google-verizon-deal-the-e_b_67 1617.html They are closing a deal with Verizon on Monday that will essentially blackmail content providers. Want your content to get through faster? Pay us. That is pretty much it in a nutshell. Maybe ISPs around the world should block Google entirely unless they pay you then. Patrick As an individual WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] RB1100
Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh
On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Ralph wrote: Never asked because we don’t use them for making the mesh. We use only Tropos, although 3 systems we did for another company required Cisco product. I will never deploy Cisco mess(h) again-LOL. The Peps are the CPEs we use. In a muni mesh, the CPE radios are clients, not part of the mesh. The Pep CPEs work great with Tropos and the Peps were actually the original recommended CPE for use with Google WiFi in Mountain View when they began. Interesting. Well, I still believe, RFCs and open standards are the only way to go when building mesh networks. Everything else leads to a vendor lock in. But nevertheless it is interesting what proprietary vendor mesh solutions do and how well they perform. Is there any way to find out if one mesh solution will interact with a different vendor's solution? a. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 5 GHz Canopy and 900 MHz
I'm guessing the chance is about as close to zero as you can get, but... I have some 5 GHz Canopy on a water tower and they are having communications issues on their 900 MHz SCADA system. Their solution is to unplug my stuff for an hour or two to see if it goes away. Their problems started the same time I lost GPS on my CMM... I'm assuming mother nature. I changed out a 5.2 GHz link with a 5.7 GHz link and put in a SyncPipe Parasitic. Not exactly anything that could interfere with 900 MHz that I can think of. Of course their vendor doesn't see it my way. What chance is it that I'm to blame? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz Canopy and 900 MHz
Pretty slim chance it's your AP. Slight possibility it's the syncpipe. Could also be some other source recently installed that's hosing the SCADA and the CMM GPS - Jerry -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 8:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5 GHz Canopy and 900 MHz I'm guessing the chance is about as close to zero as you can get, but... I have some 5 GHz Canopy on a water tower and they are having communications issues on their 900 MHz SCADA system. Their solution is to unplug my stuff for an hour or two to see if it goes away. Their problems started the same time I lost GPS on my CMM... I'm assuming mother nature. I changed out a 5.2 GHz link with a 5.7 GHz link and put in a SyncPipe Parasitic. Not exactly anything that could interfere with 900 MHz that I can think of. Of course their vendor doesn't see it my way. What chance is it that I'm to blame? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz Canopy and 900 MHz
Do you try to scan the 900 band to see if something new is there like smart meters or something? Brian -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5 GHz Canopy and 900 MHz I'm guessing the chance is about as close to zero as you can get, but... I have some 5 GHz Canopy on a water tower and they are having communications issues on their 900 MHz SCADA system. Their solution is to unplug my stuff for an hour or two to see if it goes away. Their problems started the same time I lost GPS on my CMM... I'm assuming mother nature. I changed out a 5.2 GHz link with a 5.7 GHz link and put in a SyncPipe Parasitic. Not exactly anything that could interfere with 900 MHz that I can think of. Of course their vendor doesn't see it my way. What chance is it that I'm to blame? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz Canopy and 900 MHz
I had a similar issue except it worked in my benefit. I gave them IP connectivity for their SCADA, they waived my tower fee, and all are happy. They never did find the issue with the 900MHz but all is well. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I'm guessing the chance is about as close to zero as you can get, but... I have some 5 GHz Canopy on a water tower and they are having communications issues on their 900 MHz SCADA system. Their solution is to unplug my stuff for an hour or two to see if it goes away. Their problems started the same time I lost GPS on my CMM... I'm assuming mother nature. I changed out a 5.2 GHz link with a 5.7 GHz link and put in a SyncPipe Parasitic. Not exactly anything that could interfere with 900 MHz that I can think of. Of course their vendor doesn't see it my way. What chance is it that I'm to blame? -- - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT thoughts
Where we have seen a difference in value of equipment is in the failure/repair rate. Ours is horrible. The success or failure of build-em-yourself radios depends GREATLY on the quality of the install/installer (we have alot of StarOS, alot of weatherproofing tape, alot of pigtails, alot of jumpers). With UBNT, we are hoping to get a good balance between price of CPE and reduce the chance of carelessness costing us a service call down the road. For instance, I used Tranzeo for a while (a couple hundred of them - integrated antenna models), and those CPE either worked or died, but never had install quality problems. So, there is value in equipment if it facilitates easy quick installs and doesn't require a service call later because of a stupid pigtail not being connected to the radio quite right. - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz To: WISPA General List Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT thoughts Those prices are crazy... yes.. but the are here and I believe that they will stay like this for a while.. ATT is fighting to compensate for it's declining business in phone lines. and Comcast is eagerly looking to eat ATT's lunch. I agree with you about sticking with Moto if and when they come thru.. but you will also have to calculate your ROI.. I don't understand your comment about Moto having sync and same Throughput as UBNT MIMO ? ... are you referring to PMP430 ... I thought that was 802.11n MIMO as well. Would love to hear some comparison for feedback on the PMP430 The links we are putting up are capable of doing 30-75meg (tcp thruput) in 20mhz channel and about 60-150meg (tcp thuput) in 40mhz channel. The gear is cheap.. so we are choosing to build towers/pop to service a 5mile radius tops. The trick is to use the dual polarity antennas (from UBNT) and with the M radios, rather than trying to hack some sort of a hybird.. (there are folks who are doing that for transition purposes). The equipment is in-expensive... so why do an Omni . I am not so worried about the plastic radios, I am also not looking for them to last 10 years either... So far, we have not seen any issues in running VOIP on these links either... but then again, we are not needing to put 200 subs on a single AP either. For right now, they are a great tool in the tool bag, until someone else steps up to the plate. So far all of the other MIMO, 802.11n radio producers have offered rather expensive PTP solutions only... It is hard to figure out it is worth it to pay an extra $1500 or $2000 per link for another mfg's MIMO PTP solution vs UBNT. Time will tell meanwhile for us.. have to use what is available... Supposedly, Firing up UBNT Radios with Airmax on them, gives a lot of grief to Moto Canopy and I am very much interested to see how their 802.11n implementation on 900mhz performs what they are showing on their spec sheets is definetly making everyone shake their heads and say... I really want to see that to believe it.. ...we will find in out about 45 days when the radios become available in the US. Loosely speaking, don't let anyone tell you that there is value in Equipment, I have a backroom full of $150,000(each)Redback Routers which are not worth $1500each any moreFor a WISP or ISP the value is purely in the subscriber base there is some intrinsic value in equipment, to the degree that can be leveraged to add more revenue generating services.. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh
While I dont like vendor lock in for myself, I'm a techie. For a serious business customer, vendor lock in is far less of an issue than getting proper support. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:03 AM, L. Aaron Kaplan aa...@lo-res.org wrote: On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Ralph wrote: Never asked because we don’t use them for making the mesh. We use only Tropos, although 3 systems we did for another company required Cisco product. I will never deploy Cisco mess(h) again-LOL. The Peps are the CPEs we use. In a muni mesh, the CPE radios are clients, not part of the mesh. The Pep CPEs work great with Tropos and the Peps were actually the original recommended CPE for use with Google WiFi in Mountain View when they began. Interesting. Well, I still believe, RFCs and open standards are the only way to go when building mesh networks. Everything else leads to a vendor lock in. But nevertheless it is interesting what proprietary vendor mesh solutions do and how well they perform. Is there any way to find out if one mesh solution will interact with a different vendor's solution? a. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Replace it with xomething else Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 http://www.brevardwireless.com/files/email.gif WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mesh
Oh- the Peps work fine on Cisco mesh as well- especially the newer Peps they sell now. We are currently only using the older black ones that look like a cable/DSL modem with an antenna. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:40 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mesh While I dont like vendor lock in for myself, I'm a techie. For a serious business customer, vendor lock in is far less of an issue than getting proper support. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:03 AM, L. Aaron Kaplan aa...@lo-res.org wrote: On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:26 PM, Ralph wrote: Never asked because we don't use them for making the mesh. We use only Tropos, although 3 systems we did for another company required Cisco product. I will never deploy Cisco mess(h) again-LOL. The Peps are the CPEs we use. In a muni mesh, the CPE radios are clients, not part of the mesh. The Pep CPEs work great with Tropos and the Peps were actually the original recommended CPE for use with Google WiFi in Mountain View when they began. Interesting. Well, I still believe, RFCs and open standards are the only way to go when building mesh networks. Everything else leads to a vendor lock in. But nevertheless it is interesting what proprietary vendor mesh solutions do and how well they perform. Is there any way to find out if one mesh solution will interact with a different vendor's solution? a. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
At 8/10/2010 10:15 AM, Blake Bowers wrote: Although they do use that satellite word a lot, elsewhere in their page they talk about 40,000 cell sites - as in possibly they are doing their backhaul using satellite, but their last mile by terrestrial? I don't have a clue, but it appears they have a fairly big slug of money. One big warning flag I saw was they were talking about their satellite being built by Boeing right now - only one? No backup? Lightsquared is the new name of a company that used to be called SkyTerra. They are and have been in the satellite business. The mobile satellite business did not take off the way the FCC thought it might a decade and a half ago, when it allocated frequencies to them. You might remember Iridium, for instance. The birds flew, but the business didn't, and it carried on as a bankruptcy asset, hardly encouraging new competition. And cellular spread more widely than anticipated, with better roaming, making satellite less necessary. SkyTerra had some customers too, but didn't exactly set the world on fire. So for the past decade, the satellite industry has been asking for permission to use their frequencies for auxiliary terrestrial component (ATC) operation. In other words, ground-based mobile networks, like cellular. The National Broadband Plan supports this, so the FCC is likely to allow SkyTerra -- LightSquared to recycle their frequencies in the 1.4/1.6 GHz range. SkyTerra plans 40,000 cells to cover 92% of the population; this includes both coverage (rural) and capacity (urban, after cell-splitting to accommodate growth) cells. Satellites can then provide fill-in coverage outside of terrestrial cell-site range, if you have a dual-mode phone. LightSquared's business model is to sell wholesale, while MVNOs do the retail sales. This makes a lot of sense, since setting up a retail network is costly, while there are existing retail networks (e.g., store chains and carriers who don't own wireless networks of their own) that could easily take on a new product line, and handle the billing for their own customers. The top two CMRSs (ATTM and VZW) don't want to sell wholesale, leaving MVNO support mostly to Sprint; this new network could substantially improve that market. I don't know their backhaul strategy but I expect it'll be like Sprint's and T-Mobile's -- use competitive facilities where available, private microwave when possible, and ILEC Special Access when all else fails. That last resort has been something like 90% of the time, which is why there's so much of a push to regulate Special Access rates. VZ and ATT make their real profits nowadays from those leased lines, selling to ISPs and wireless carriers. It's basically an unregulated monopoly. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 [http://www.brevardwireless.com/files/email.gif] From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 [http://www.brevardwireless.com/files/email.gif] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. *Steve Barnes* RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 -- *From*: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com *Sent*: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM *To*: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
I'm also curious as to what problems people are having. I have about 10 of these running for more than 30 days at various towers with no issues at all. Mike On Tuesday 08/10/2010 at 10:37, Steve Barnes wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Only have a 24 x 24 X 12 box at the site to put a device in and already has a router, ups, cooling/heating, surge suppression, Etc. It will be a squeeze to get the RB1100 in there let alone a PC. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WINhttp://www.pcswin.com/ RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.commailto:st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Servicehttp://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.commailto:n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.commailto:g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Well, We have installed two, On two different towers. First one locked up hard. Its on a huge tower, And power was already in place so that was a trip to the top to unplug it and let it sit for a few. Was on a UPS and everything. Second one somehow got toasted. Clear blue day and all the ports were dead but one. All other gear on the tower was fine. This same tower has had a 493AH on it for about a year prior, And it hasn't missed a beat. Just doesn't seem to be as stable as some of the other RB's we have used. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:40 PM To: n...@brevardwireless.com n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
Fred, Can you see Lightsquared selling wholesale to a WISP? jack Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/10/2010 10:15 AM, Blake Bowers wrote: Although they do use that satellite word a lot, elsewhere in their page they talk about 40,000 "cell" sites - as in possibly they are doing their backhaul using satellite, but their last mile by terrestrial? I don't have a clue, but it appears they have a fairly big slug of money. One big warning flag I saw was they were talking about their satellite being built by Boeing right now - only one? No backup? Lightsquared is the new name of a company that used to be called SkyTerra. They are and have been in the satellite business. The mobile satellite business did not take off the way the FCC thought it might a decade and a half ago, when it allocated frequencies to them. You might remember Iridium, for instance. The birds flew, but the business didn't, and it carried on as a bankruptcy asset, hardly encouraging new competition. And cellular spread more widely than anticipated, with better roaming, making satellite less necessary. SkyTerra had some customers too, but didn't exactly set the world on fire. So for the past decade, the satellite industry has been asking for permission to use their frequencies for "auxiliary terrestrial component" (ATC) operation. In other words, ground-based mobile networks, like cellular. The National Broadband Plan supports this, so the FCC is likely to allow SkyTerra -- LightSquared to recycle their frequencies in the 1.4/1.6 GHz range. SkyTerra plans 40,000 cells to cover 92% of the population; this includes both "coverage" (rural) and "capacity" (urban, after cell-splitting to accommodate growth) cells. Satellites can then provide fill-in coverage outside of terrestrial cell-site range, if you have a dual-mode phone. LightSquared's business model is to sell wholesale, while MVNOs do the retail sales. This makes a lot of sense, since setting up a retail network is costly, while there are existing retail networks (e.g., store chains and carriers who don't own wireless networks of their own) that could easily take on a new product line, and handle the billing for their own customers. The top two CMRSs (ATTM and VZW) don't want to sell wholesale, leaving MVNO support mostly to Sprint; this new network could substantially improve that market. I don't know their backhaul strategy but I expect it'll be like Sprint's and T-Mobile's -- use competitive facilities where available, private microwave when possible, and ILEC Special Access when all else fails. That last resort has been something like 90% of the time, which is why there's so much of a push to regulate Special Access rates. VZ and ATT make their real profits nowadays from those leased lines, selling to ISPs and wireless carriers. It's basically an unregulated monopoly. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein "at" ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Network Design - Technical Training - Technical Writing Serving the Broadband Wireless, Networking and Telecom Communities since 1993 www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
You are aware the RB1100 is a 1U case, right? http://routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=98 There are plenty of x86 devices that are the same size...or smaller. You could also use an OEM case this size and use any micro ATX. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Only have a 24” x 24” X 12” box at the site to put a device in and already has a router, ups, cooling/heating, surge suppression, Etc. It will be a squeeze to get the RB1100 in there let alone a PC. Steve Barnes General Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] MT question
You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the SR2. We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one registers and field tests don't detect the radio. So is it the board or the SR2? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT question
Is anyone registered to that wireless interface? If not, then the R shouldn't show up as it is not running until something is connected to it. ryan On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the SR2. We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one registers and field tests don't detect the radio. So is it the board or the SR2? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT question
Is it a station or AP? Do you have WDS enabled? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the SR2. We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one registers and field tests don't detect the radio. So is it the board or the SR2? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
You don't get the port count unless you go with a industrial appliance and those can get costly. So far I'm happy with my RB1100s apart from some issues with combinations of ports on the switch chips. On Aug 10, 2010 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You are aware the RB1100 is a 1U case, right? http://routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=98 There are plenty of x86 devices that are the same size...or smaller. You could also use an OEM case this size and use any micro ATX. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Only have a 24” x 24” X 12... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
I use the MikroNOC from Titan...Don't trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000's in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 4G carrier for carriers
At 8/10/2010 02:12 PM, Jack Unger wrote: Fred, Can you see Lightsquared selling wholesale to a WISP? For enough money, yes. But MVNO deals tend to be on the large side, so there could be a sizeable minimum commitment. If it's just a data service, the complexity on LightSquared's part might not be that great, which could help keep it small. jack Fred Goldstein wrote: At 8/10/2010 10:15 AM, Blake Bowers wrote: Although they do use that satellite word a lot, elsewhere in their page they talk about 40,000 cell sites - as in possibly they are doing their backhaul using satellite, but their last mile by terrestrial? I don't have a clue, but it appears they have a fairly big slug of money. One big warning flag I saw was they were talking about their satellite being built by Boeing right now - only one? No backup? Lightsquared is the new name of a company that used to be called SkyTerra. They are and have been in the satellite business. The mobile satellite business did not take off the way the FCC thought it might a decade and a half ago, when it allocated frequencies to them. You might remember Iridium, for instance. The birds flew, but the business didn't, and it carried on as a bankruptcy asset, hardly encouraging new competition. And cellular spread more widely than anticipated, with better roaming, making satellite less necessary. SkyTerra had some customers too, but didn't exactly set the world on fire. So for the past decade, the satellite industry has been asking for permission to use their frequencies for auxiliary terrestrial component (ATC) operation. In other words, ground-based mobile networks, like cellular. The National Broadband Plan supports this, so the FCC is likely to allow SkyTerra -- LightSquared to recycle their frequencies in the 1.4/1.6 GHz range. SkyTerra plans 40,000 cells to cover 92% of the population; this includes both coverage (rural) and capacity (urban, after cell-splitting to accommodate growth) cells. Satellites can then provide fill-in coverage outside of terrestrial cell-site range, if you have a dual-mode phone. LightSquared's business model is to sell wholesale, while MVNOs do the retail sales. This makes a lot of sense, since setting up a retail network is costly, while there are existing retail networks (e.g., store chains and carriers who don't own wireless networks of their own) that could easily take on a new product line, and handle the billing for their own customers. The top two CMRSs (ATTM and VZW) don't want to sell wholesale, leaving MVNO support mostly to Sprint; this new network could substantially improve that market. I don't know their backhaul strategy but I expect it'll be like Sprint's and T-Mobile's -- use competitive facilities where available, private microwave when possible, and ILEC Special Access when all else fails. That last resort has been something like 90% of the time, which is why there's so much of a push to regulate Special Access rates. VZ and ATT make their real profits nowadays from those leased lines, selling to ISPs and wireless carriers. It's basically an unregulated monopoly. -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Running a RB1000 here for core router over a year without single hiccup. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 I use the MikroNOC from Titan.Don't trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000's in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi W http://www.rcwifi.com/ ireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 _ From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Im currently evaluanting a Atom Based App with 6 GigE ports + 5 Switched ports...pricing is between Rb1100 and Rb1000 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 You don't get the port count unless you go with a industrial appliance and those can get costly. So far I'm happy with my RB1100s apart from some issues with combinations of ports on the switch chips. On Aug 10, 2010 1:20 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You are aware the RB1100 is a 1U case, right? http://routerboard.com/index.php?showProduct=98 There are plenty of x86 devices that are the same size...or smaller. You could also use an OEM case this size and use any micro ATX. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Only have a 24 x 24 X 12... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
That looks to be the same exact thing as Dennis' Power Router 732. I have the same hardware. Works great on MT outside of 3.14-20. I have about 500 days of uptime. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I use the MikroNOC from Titan…Don’t trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000’s in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
In all fairness, other than a hardware issue, we have not had a blip in the performance of the RB1100. It has done exactly what we needed it to do. It's weakness for us lies in the fact that it is as sensitive to lightning as the RB411s seem to be which is sorta a problem. As far as it running fine OS wise - no problems with all ports lit up... What have you seen unstable about them, personally? I'm not interested in hearsay. And if you have one you don't want I'd be happy to take it. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Return-Path: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Received: from outboundmail.mvn.net (outboundmail.mvn.net [66.232.160.104]) by mail.brevardwireless.com with SMTP; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:43:47 -0400 Received: by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 0F38CC7F1D; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:43:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 (2008-06-10) on outboundmail.mvn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 Received: from plesk.mvn.net (plesk-1.mvn.net [66.232.160.84]) by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0C6C80A3 for sc...@brevardwireless.com; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 28552 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2010 10:42:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (HELO plesk.mvn.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2010 10:42:17 -0500 Delivered-To: 24-wirel...@wispa.org Received: (qmail 27693 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2010 10:42:10 -0500 Received: from mx1.mvn.net (HELO junkmail.mvn.net) (66.232.160.16) by webpanel.mvn.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2010 10:42:10 -0500 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1281454929-6a3f01ad0001-RAC2qD Received: from smtp.aeronetpr.com (smtp.aeronetpr.com [207.15.198.11]) by junkmail.mvn.net with ESMTP id vQqvwbPrvUKE8r0v for wireless@wispa.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:42:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: g...@aeronetpr.com X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 207.15.198.11 Received-SPF: pass (junkmail.mvn.net: domain of aeronetpr.com designates 207.15.198.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=207.15.198.11; envelope-from=...@aeronetpr.com; Received: from aeronetpr.net (unknown [63.175.186.14]) by smtp.aeronetpr.com (Spam Virus Firewall) with ESMTP id 2E10320038CD; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:42:05 -0400 (AST) Received: from aeronetpr.net ([63.175.186.14]) by smtp.aeronetpr.com with ESMTP id BVw0QfG7APA8tu7v; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:42:05 -0400 (AST) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 11:42:02 -0400 Message-ID: aa4a326a317bc640988d04873b64c5e4df8...@aerosrv.aeronetpr.net X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [WISPA] RB1100 Thread-Index: Acs4nWl0feMDLTCfQ3+HZHRBrBj5xAABR1Zg References: 16036e86$6ed5da21$e7c9f...@com From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org X-Barracuda-Connect: smtp.aeronetpr.com[207.15.198.11] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1281454929 X-Barracuda-URL: http://junkmail.mvn.net:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at mvn.net X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.37595 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description -- -- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 X-BeenThere: wireless@wispa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org List-Id: WISPA General List wireless.wispa.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless, mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless List-Post: mailto:wireless@wispa.org List-Help: mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless, mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary1850799453== Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Errors-To: wireless-boun...@wispa.org X-Rcpt-To: sc...@brevardwireless.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: Commtouch 0 [value: Unknown], SPF_Pass, DK_None, DKIM_None X-CTCH-RefId: str=0001.0A010202.4C6173BE.009B,ss=1,fgs=0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: -2 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Yeah they won't run more than 5 minutes for something like that... can I have it LOL ??? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Return-Path: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Received: from outboundmail.mvn.net (outboundmail.mvn.net [66.232.160.104]) by mail.brevardwireless.com with SMTP; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:39:24 -0400 Received: by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 33FC1C7ECE; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:39:28 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 (2008-06-10) on outboundmail.mvn.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=8.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5-mvn_20090108.1 Received: from plesk.mvn.net (plesk-1.mvn.net [66.232.160.84]) by outboundmail.mvn.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28890C8043 for sc...@brevardwireless.com; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:37:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 1368 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2010 12:37:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (HELO plesk.mvn.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Aug 2010 12:37:06 -0500 Delivered-To: 24-wirel...@wispa.org Received: (qmail 530 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2010 12:36:59 -0500 Received: from mx2.mvn.net (HELO junkmail.mvn.net) (66.232.160.15) by webpanel.mvn.net with SMTP; 10 Aug 2010 12:36:59 -0500 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1281461817-516027420001-RAC2qD Received: from relay.ihostexchange.net (relay.ihostexchange.net [66.46.182.52]) by junkmail.mvn.net with ESMTP id cJpfUGQfL3zDPjuI for wireless@wispa.org; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 12:36:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: st...@pcswin.com X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 66.46.182.52 Received: from VMBX102.ihostexchange.net ([192.168.3.5]) by HUB102.ihostexchange.net ([66.46.182.52]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:36:56 -0400 From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: n...@brevardwireless.com n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:36:56 -0400 Thread-Topic: [WISPA] RB1100 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Thread-Index: Acs4o0jO00rjMaZPSKKAev6xLLGzWAAD63bA Message-ID: e0faac2954bac6459a09c629880f39524a8c11c...@vmbx102.ihostexchange.net References: 7cd05849$12967a61$5d35f9...@com In-Reply-To: 7cd05849$12967a61$5d35f9...@com Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Barracuda-Connect: relay.ihostexchange.net[66.46.182.52] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1281461817 X-Barracuda-URL: http://junkmail.mvn.net:80/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at mvn.net X-Barracuda-Bayes: INNOCENT GLOBAL 0. 1. -2.0210 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: -2.02 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=-2.02 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.2.37602 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description -- -- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 X-BeenThere: wireless@wispa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org List-Id: WISPA General List wireless.wispa.org List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless, mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless List-Post: mailto:wireless@wispa.org List-Help: mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless, mailto:wireless-requ...@wispa.org?subject=subscribe Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary0126214292== Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org Errors-To: wireless-boun...@wispa.org X-Rcpt-To: sc...@brevardwireless.com X-SmarterMail-Spam: Commtouch 0 [value: Unknown], SPF_Pass, DK_None, DKIM_None X-CTCH-RefId: str=0001.0A010205.4C618ED7.01A7,ss=1,fgs=0 X-SmarterMail-TotalSpamWeight: -2 OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
About 30mbps down and 10mbps up. Running 400 simple queues. A few dozen firewall rules. Peaks at about 3,000 PPS up and down combined. With all that being said CPU is about 10% steady. However I have seen DOS attacks coming in at 50,000pps and take this box down. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 What kind of throughput are you getting, both in traffic and in PPS? - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser mailto:k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General mailto:wireless@wispa.org List' Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Running a RB1000 here for core router over a year without single hiccup. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 I use the MikroNOC from Titan.Don't trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000's in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi W http://www.rcwifi.com/ ireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 _ From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else.. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 _ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: That looks to be the same exact thing as Dennis' Power Router 732. It's also the exact same thing as Butch's MikroCore router. http://store.wispgear.net/Complete-Systems-Mikrotik/c30_36/p218/MikroCore-7,-Dual-Core-2.2-GHz,-1Gig-RAM,-7X1Gig-Eth,2XUSB,LCD-D/product_info.html It's just an industrial appliance. I sell the same hardware. The only real difference is the support you receive from the reseller. Otherwise its the same box sold at different prices. -- Blake Covarrubias WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT question
AP and no WDS On 8/10/2010 11:25 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Is it a station or AP? Do you have WDS enabled? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the SR2. We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one registers and field tests don't detect the radio. So is it the board or the SR2? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT question
Hmm now why didn't I think of that I knew better, I had better go test it myself. On 8/10/2010 11:25 AM, Ryan Spott wrote: Is anyone registered to that wireless interface? If not, then the R shouldn't show up as it is not running until something is connected to it. ryan On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com mailto:forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the SR2. We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one registers and field tests don't detect the radio. So is it the board or the SR2? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT question
Few More Questions. Is Wireless card set to AP Bridge? Can you put the card in Scan and see anything else? Are the other devices in the scan list within the right signal levels? If so, set the card back to ap Bridge and look for the ESSID on a laptop or other client device. If nothing shows in scan (and something should be there) then look at the possibility of the card not working. If scan shows fine, then look further into the configuration of the wireless interface. R only shows when something is connected to it. In the Wireless interface, click on Reset configuration and see if that clears the problem. Mike On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the SR2. We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one registers and field tests don't detect the radio. So is it the board or the SR2? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT question
My first bet is that you want this device to bridge (since the wlan1 and an ether are in a bridge) but you do not have WDS enabled and the station is set to station-wds, which your AP is configured to do. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Mike Delp miked...@gmail.com wrote: Few More Questions. Is Wireless card set to AP Bridge? Can you put the card in Scan and see anything else? Are the other devices in the scan list within the right signal levels? If so, set the card back to ap Bridge and look for the ESSID on a laptop or other client device. If nothing shows in scan (and something should be there) then look at the possibility of the card not working. If scan shows fine, then look further into the configuration of the wireless interface. R only shows when something is connected to it. In the Wireless interface, click on Reset configuration and see if that clears the problem. Mike On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.com wrote: You're basic 433 with an SR2, Winbox sees both but the R isn't by the SR2. We checked bridge then port and they're all set up right, there is the hash mark next to the SR2 but they won't bridge traffic, no one registers and field tests don't detect the radio. So is it the board or the SR2? Thanks, Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Try running BGP...and more than 4x that in queues and at least 4x that in firewall rules. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:11 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 About 30mbps down and 10mbps up. Running 400 simple queues. A few dozen firewall rules. Peaks at about 3,000 PPS up and down combined. With all that being said CPU is about 10% steady. However I have seen DOS attacks coming in at 50,000pps and take this box down. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 What kind of throughput are you getting, both in traffic and in PPS? - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser mailto:k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Running a RB1000 here for core router over a year without single hiccup. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 I use the MikroNOC from Titan...Don't trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000's in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Those network appliances are manufactured by a Taiwanese company, Axiomtek: http://www.axiomtek.com.tw/products/ViewProduct.asp?ptype3=233pos=4ptype2=231ptype1=209 Regards, Roney Eduardo WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 14:31 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote: I use the MikroNOC from Titan…Don’t trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000’s in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. The MikroNOC is a great appliance. If you should need even higher port density, I have those available as well. One box is capable of 24 GigE ports (with combinations of copper and/or fiber based SFP GigE ports). -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 14:45 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: That looks to be the same exact thing as Dennis' Power Router 732. It is, but better pricing and you have Titan support (which is TOP NOTCH). Not suggesting Dennis isn't (no personal experience there), but Titan is a great company to work with. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
It's the same. All these distributors NAME their gear as their own devices. One distributor will support you without the added fees, and the other will charge you the fees. It's cheaper at Titan. When I owned QuickLink Wireless, it was these types of things that separated us from other distributors; how the customer was supported. I will withhold any comment towards Dennis for two reasons, 1) I have never had direct experience with Dennis and his support. 2) nothing good will come out of what I have to say. On the other hand, I have worked with Jim Patient and Mike Delp before without much issue. All this hardware is from AxiomTek. It's readily available for import. If you want to bypass any of these distributors you can, and build it up for around $1k or maybe a little less (these prices fluctuate like memory and processors). There are a handful of master distributors that will sell them to you. www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=429 www.axiomtek.com/products/ListProduct.asp?ptype1=209ptype2=231ptype3=233 You can also find multiple other platforms by other manufacturers that will work just fine. We built one for SOCOMM that was pretty impressive and cost around $5k. Way overkill, but it's what they wanted. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 That looks to be the same exact thing as Dennis' Power Router 732. I have the same hardware. Works great on MT outside of 3.14-20. I have about 500 days of uptime. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I use the MikroNOC from Titan...Don't trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000's in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 16:48 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote: It's the same. All these distributors NAME their gear as their own devices. One distributor will support you without the added fees, and the other will charge you the fees. It's cheaper at Titan. When I owned QuickLink Wireless, it was these types of things that separated us from other distributors; how the customer was supported. This is exactly the point I was making. Titan is a great company to work with (this is from my own experience). My company is good to work with as well, though I didn't mention that. There are several companies out there that sell this (and other) hardware. The only difference is the company you end up dealing with. For some, Dennis is their choice..there is NO secret sauce in the routers themselves. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?
The Ubiquiti dual pol antennas have been around for a while now. Has anyone gained any real world testing results regarding difference in performance for MIMO based on which antenna used. The two Ubiquiti sector types 16/17db versus 19/20db models have signficantly different specs on Cross pol rejection. As well, NanoStation makes a good 45 deg sector, at 14db, (14dbi + 22dbm = Max EIRP 36db for PTMP) with a bit less cross pol rejection than the others. From past experience, in any MIMO product in general, using PTP, I've observed that maximizing the Cross pol isolation is very advantageous to gain a highest performing links. (so pols dont interfere with each other at high modulations). In general, I'd get numbers like anything less than 35db isolation would result in quality loss. BUT... I've never tested with Ubiquiti yet. So my question here is Have people been successful using the smaller 16/17db Sector antennas successfully with MIMO? I can do the math and RF engineering, and I can predict that the larger 19/20 db antenna's have much better cross pol rejection, and combined with the third party shield made for them, to increase Front to Back ratio signficantly, they are an ideal choice for serious cell site deployments. But, for less critical smaller area deployments, I can see the adantage of using the smaller antennas to save space vertically. So just wondering what experience others are having with the 16/17db Ubiquiti Sectors. To be clear, the gain of the antenna is NOT my concern here. I interested in whether the Cross Pol rejection is good enough on shorter sector antenna to gain good MIMO quality. Note: short antenna speced at 22db cross pol isolation, whereas taller antenna speced at 28db cross pol. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 16:48 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote: It's the same. All these distributors NAME their gear as their own devices. One distributor will support you without the added fees, and the other will charge you the fees. It's cheaper at Titan. When I owned QuickLink Wireless, it was these types of things that separated us from other distributors; how the customer was supported. This is exactly the point I was making. Titan is a great company to work with (this is from my own experience). My company is good to work with as well, though I didn't mention that. There are several companies out there that sell this (and other) hardware. The only difference is the company you end up dealing with. For some, Dennis is their choice..there is NO secret sauce in the routers themselves. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?
Hi Tom, Call me naive...not quiet sure what you are asking. specifically... We have a number of the smaller Ubiquiti Sectors in use Prior to your email it never occurred to me that I have to worry about cross pol rejection with MIMO antennas... But on the other hand I am also not trying to put 10miles link using those antennas All I can say they work perfectly fine.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 8/10/2010 7:32 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: The Ubiquiti dual pol antennas have been around for a while now. Has anyone gained any real world testing results regarding difference in performance for MIMO based on which antenna used. The two Ubiquiti sector types 16/17db versus 19/20db models have signficantly different specs on Cross pol rejection. As well, NanoStation makes a good 45 deg sector, at 14db, (14dbi + 22dbm = Max EIRP 36db for PTMP) with a bit less cross pol rejection than the others. From past experience, in any MIMO product in general, using PTP, I've observed that maximizing the Cross pol isolation is very advantageous to gain a highest performing links. (so pols dont interfere with each other at high modulations). In general, I'd get numbers like anything less than 35db isolation would result in quality loss. BUT... I've never tested with Ubiquiti yet. So my question here is Have people been successful using the smaller 16/17db Sector antennas successfully with MIMO? I can do the math and RF engineering, and I can predict that the larger 19/20 db antenna's have much better cross pol rejection, and combined with the third party shield made for them, to increase Front to Back ratio signficantly, they are an ideal choice for serious cell site deployments. But, for less critical smaller area deployments, I can see the adantage of using the smaller antennas to save space vertically. So just wondering what experience others are having with the 16/17db Ubiquiti Sectors. To be clear, the gain of the antenna is NOT my concern here. I interested in whether the Cross Pol rejection is good enough on shorter sector antenna to gain good MIMO quality. Note: short antenna speced at 22db cross pol isolation, whereas taller antenna speced at 28db cross pol. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 16:48 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote: It's the same. All these distributors NAME their gear as their own devices. One distributor will support you without the added fees, and the other will charge you the fees. It's cheaper at Titan. When I owned QuickLink Wireless, it was these types of things that separated us from other distributors; how the customer was supported. This is exactly the point I was making. Titan is a great company to work with (this is from my own experience). My company is good to work with as well, though I didn't mention that. There are several companies out there that sell this (and other) hardware. The only difference is the company you end up dealing with. For some, Dennis is their choice..there is NO secret sauce in the routers themselves. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] Vericity Outreachmax POE extender
Someone just recently posted on List in another thread, made a recommendation for the following POE/CAT5 extendor product http://www.veracityglobal.com/media/1181/outreach%20max%20datasheet%201_0.pdf In theory, it looks really really cool, to help solve getting APs up to 400-500ft and still support 100mb ethernet. I was thinking about trying them for a deployment, to cost effectively build out an existing tower. My concern is whether they can hold up for Outdoor tower deployments. Can they survey the more harsh exposure that a Tower creates. (such as grounding issues, Electric buildup in air during lightning storms, connectors that dont oxidize and erode over time, etc. I also dont like devices that are shaped like. cat5___I--I Cat5 II BECAUSE its harder to keep the water and gel from dripping into connectors. (I know, dont use gel cable for the upper verticle cable run). I prefer layout shapes like I---I I_I l l CAt5A CAt5B BECAUSE BOTH connectors can be on the bottom with drip loops before comming up into the device's jacks. Anyway... My point is If I use these, am I likely going to have to climb the tower evey 6 months to replacethem when they fail, or have others had luck with them lasting long and reliably up on a tower? I recognize that these are not waterproof spec'd, so they would need to be inside a third party enclosure. I was thinking I'd have one enclosure that I housed 3 or 4 of these Outreachmax units. I was also thinking, that I'd have the TOP cable run near the full 300ft, so that the OutreachMax units were as close to the ground as they could be, to shorten the tower climb, if they had to be replaced. I'm not really asking about various ethernet extension products, as that was covered by the other thread, Im more asking specifically about how the OutrachMax product specifically works. Well or not. On their website, it was positioned more as an indoor POE product. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 14:45 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: That looks to be the same exact thing as Dennis' Power Router 732. It is, but better pricing and you have Titan support (which is TOP NOTCH). Not suggesting Dennis isn't (no personal experience there), but Titan is a great company to work with. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Free 19 shock mounted shipping rack.
I have been keeping this rack around for a long time, thinking I could use it somewhere but I have decided to give it away to anyone on the list who wants it. The guts of it are mounted on rubber shock mounts and it is about 3 feet high. It is great for making an Emergency POP in and using to drop in to a temporary location. It was designed to ship DataRadio wireless data systems in. If you want it, it is free. You'll have to pick it up near Atlanta or pay the freight charges to get it to you. One great thing is that it needs no packing. It's its own packing! If you want to see it, I have it on Craigslist locally for 25 bucks. https://post.craigslist.org/atl/S/ele/nat/x/3eFNkYeiPyQiBv3k/so7Bo Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free 19 shock mounted shipping rack.
That link doesn't do anything. What am I missing? . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:21 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] Free 19 shock mounted shipping rack. I have been keeping this rack around for a long time, thinking I could use it somewhere but I have decided to give it away to anyone on the list who wants it. The guts of it are mounted on rubber shock mounts and it is about 3 feet high. It is great for making an Emergency POP in and using to drop in to a temporary location. It was designed to ship DataRadio wireless data systems in. If you want it, it is free. You'll have to pick it up near Atlanta or pay the freight charges to get it to you. One great thing is that it needs no packing. It's its own packing! If you want to see it, I have it on Craigslist locally for 25 bucks. https://post.craigslist.org/atl/S/ele/nat/x/3eFNkYeiPyQiBv3k/so7Bo Ralph -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Free 19 shock mounted shipping rack.
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/ele/1892231194.html This link may work a bit better. Anyways, I get to be the first to say it... NICE RACK! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:21 PM Subject: [WISPA] Free 19 shock mounted shipping rack. I have been keeping this rack around for a long time, thinking I could use it somewhere but I have decided to give it away to anyone on the list who wants it. The guts of it are mounted on rubber shock mounts and it is about 3 feet high. It is great for making an Emergency POP in and using to drop in to a temporary location. It was designed to ship DataRadio wireless data systems in. If you want it, it is free. You'll have to pick it up near Atlanta or pay the freight charges to get it to you. One great thing is that it needs no packing. It's its own packing! If you want to see it, I have it on Craigslist locally for 25 bucks. https://post.craigslist.org/atl/S/ele/nat/x/3eFNkYeiPyQiBv3k/so7Bo Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
I love my RB1000 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Thats nice. Guess what I'm getting for Christmas! On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I use the MikroNOC from Titan…Don’t trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000’s in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Cc:* n...@brevardwireless.com *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. *Steve Barnes* RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 -- *From*: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com *Sent*: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM *To*: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Same results here. On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Running a RB1000 here for core router over a year without single hiccup. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Chuck Hogg *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:31 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] RB1100 I use the MikroNOC from Titan…Don’t trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000’s in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM *To:* WISPA General List *Cc:* n...@brevardwireless.com *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. *Steve Barnes* RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service http://www.rcwifi.com/ *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 -- *From*: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com *Sent*: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM *To*: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else…. Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Nick Olsen *Sent:* Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM *To:* WISPA General List *Subject:* [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] RB1100
Aw! Now you made me mark up my Christmas list! On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: It's the same. All these distributors NAME their gear as their own devices. One distributor will support you without the added fees, and the other will charge you the fees. It's cheaper at Titan. When I owned QuickLink Wireless, it was these types of things that separated us from other distributors; how the customer was supported. I will withhold any comment towards Dennis for two reasons, 1) I have never had direct experience with Dennis and his support. 2) nothing good will come out of what I have to say. On the other hand, I have worked with Jim Patient and Mike Delp before without much issue. All this hardware is from AxiomTek. It's readily available for import. If you want to bypass any of these distributors you can, and build it up for around $1k or maybe a little less (these prices fluctuate like memory and processors). There are a handful of master distributors that will sell them to you. www.axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=429 www.axiomtek.com/products/ListProduct.asp?ptype1=209ptype2=231ptype3=233 You can also find multiple other platforms by other manufacturers that will work just fine. We built one for SOCOMM that was pretty impressive and cost around $5k. Way overkill, but it's what they wanted. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 That looks to be the same exact thing as Dennis' Power Router 732. I have the same hardware. Works great on MT outside of 3.14-20. I have about 500 days of uptime. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: I use the MikroNOC from Titan...Don't trust the MT RB/1000 nor the RB/1100. While I still have RB/1000's in place for certain applications, BGP and other core functions for us (and our size) works better on a MikroNOC. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: n...@brevardwireless.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 For important high load MT stuff most I still suggest x86 hardware. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: OK I have not heard that the 1100 are not stable. I have one that I was planning to put at the headend of a group of towers for QOS and bandwidth management. This tread is making me nervous whats been the issues. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 Currently were limited on space and need a ton of ports. But I would have to agree, The RB1100 hasn't been making us happy lately. Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:42 AM To: n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] RB1100 Replace it with xomething else Product is not stable Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] RB1100 Does anyone have an RB1100 they could part with? Had one on a tower fail and need a replacement. Please reply off list. Thanks Nick Olsen Network Operations (321) 205-1100 x106 -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT thoughts
I do. Tis cool. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, August 09, 2010 1:27 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT thoughts BTW... as I have said earlier.. the UBNT is 95% baked...and work in progress.. Earlier in the day there was a post on the UBNT forum, claiming that a software bug has been identified which was causing the Ap Sm not to pass any dataand is expected to the fixed shortly.. I would suggest that you keep an eye out for that.. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom On 8/9/2010 12:54 AM, Robert West wrote: Lockups with watchdog enabled also. Doesn’t help in my case. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:39 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] UBNT thoughts Hi Faisal and the list We have also been using UBNT quite a bit lately over the last couple of years. I’m anxious to try some of the 900 and 3.65 when the time is right. Nano 2 and Nano 5 have been in our arsenal for as long as they have been out. Never had a lick of trouble with them other than a WPA issue on the very first ones. It got fixed quickly in firmware. Have now been using Nano 5M for some short links as well. They seem to work well, giving great throughput, but we have had a couple that want to lock up. Haven’t put the watchdog on yet. I think the issue is likely with WPA- seems like that has been an issue with several manufacturers who use that chipset. I think the UBNT forum has some threads on that. We try to keep them on the latest firmware (and sometimes on the beta ). We have a PowerStation 5 link with 2 2’ dishes going 20+ miles and it just hasn’t missed a beat. Recently lightning took out all the Tranzeo and Deliberant on the tower and only 2 things kept on ticking: The Canopy AP and the PowerStation 5. A lot of our old Deliberant and Tranzeo gear is getting eaten by lightning and some of the Deliberant boxes (the gray ones) are beginning to leak and corrode inside, so we are switching to UBNT as that happens. We have a long Rocket 5M link up with 2’ dishes and it works pretty well so far. Because of the 20 mile distance, we need to increase dish size though. Signal isn’t good enough to use Airmax. Just put up a tower cluster of 3 Rocket 2 radios/sectors replacing some Deliberant 2700s. So far so good, but don’t have enough users on it yet to tell about any issues with the sector patterns. We have never used a piece of uncertified gear! I value my license (Amateur one) too much to get involved with illegal activities and the FCC. They tend to go harshly on Licensees for violations even in other services. The Latvians make great routers (we use them almost exclusively) but I wouldn’t touch their wireless with a 10 foot pole. There is plenty of reasonably priced great gear out there whose manufacturers do go the extra distance to get certified. Just my .02 from a good old Southern boy. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP H.which models .? What version of firmware. ? We have been using the M gear...and have not seen any lockups Fwiw...the also have watchdog built in for reboots... Faisal On Aug 8, 2010, at 7:38 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: We have been trying to use UBNT Nanos for quite a while in trailer parks and other ¼ to ½ mile LoS links. The issues we are finding is that the dang things just stop. The first time we have to do a truck roll to reset the unit, or replace it, it would be cheaper to buy a MT solution. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training http://www.onlinemikrotiktraining.com - Author of http://www.routerosbook.com/ Learn RouterOS From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 GHz PtP You might have something philosophical there Bob. Do we choose equipment that is like us - lots of trouble and need plenty of attention? LOL! On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: But they are awesomely reliable and require no maintenance. Where is the fun in all of that? I desire a product that demands constant attention. -Albert -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 11:03 PM To: WISPA General List
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet?
Working fine for me as well. Depending on the terrain, we use the smaller sectors as well as the larger ones. Small sectors going 6+ miles in flat open ground, larger ones are going 12+. With some trees. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 7:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti antenna testing yet? Hi Tom, Call me naive...not quiet sure what you are asking. specifically... We have a number of the smaller Ubiquiti Sectors in use Prior to your email it never occurred to me that I have to worry about cross pol rejection with MIMO antennas... But on the other hand I am also not trying to put 10miles link using those antennas All I can say they work perfectly fine.. :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 8/10/2010 7:32 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: The Ubiquiti dual pol antennas have been around for a while now. Has anyone gained any real world testing results regarding difference in performance for MIMO based on which antenna used. The two Ubiquiti sector types 16/17db versus 19/20db models have signficantly different specs on Cross pol rejection. As well, NanoStation makes a good 45 deg sector, at 14db, (14dbi + 22dbm = Max EIRP 36db for PTMP) with a bit less cross pol rejection than the others. From past experience, in any MIMO product in general, using PTP, I've observed that maximizing the Cross pol isolation is very advantageous to gain a highest performing links. (so pols dont interfere with each other at high modulations). In general, I'd get numbers like anything less than 35db isolation would result in quality loss. BUT... I've never tested with Ubiquiti yet. So my question here is Have people been successful using the smaller 16/17db Sector antennas successfully with MIMO? I can do the math and RF engineering, and I can predict that the larger 19/20 db antenna's have much better cross pol rejection, and combined with the third party shield made for them, to increase Front to Back ratio signficantly, they are an ideal choice for serious cell site deployments. But, for less critical smaller area deployments, I can see the adantage of using the smaller antennas to save space vertically. So just wondering what experience others are having with the 16/17db Ubiquiti Sectors. To be clear, the gain of the antenna is NOT my concern here. I interested in whether the Cross Pol rejection is good enough on shorter sector antenna to gain good MIMO quality. Note: short antenna speced at 22db cross pol isolation, whereas taller antenna speced at 28db cross pol. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Butch Evansbut...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB1100 On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 16:48 -0400, Chuck Hogg wrote: It's the same. All these distributors NAME their gear as their own devices. One distributor will support you without the added fees, and the other will charge you the fees. It's cheaper at Titan. When I owned QuickLink Wireless, it was these types of things that separated us from other distributors; how the customer was supported. This is exactly the point I was making. Titan is a great company to work with (this is from my own experience). My company is good to work with as well, though I didn't mention that. There are several companies out there that sell this (and other) hardware. The only difference is the company you end up dealing with. For some, Dennis is their choice..there is NO secret sauce in the routers themselves. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/* Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --
