Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
Have you run Windows on a 433? I have some software that has to have the radios in the Windows machine. On 1/4/2011 7:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: I use a laptop and a pair of radios, since windows can not see my APs. Would a RB433 and a laptop work for you? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
and a laptop On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:15 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: Have you run Windows on a 433? I have some software that has to have the radios in the Windows machine. On 1/4/2011 7:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: I use a laptop and a pair of radios, since windows can not see my APs. Would a RB433 and a laptop work for you? On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Scott Reedsr...@nwwnet.net wrote: I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
OK, after reading a bunch of responses, let's try again. I am looking for a low-cost, like sub $200 computer that will run off 12VDC directly and will run Windows. It needs a PCI slot or at least 3 mPCI slots. I have a PCI to mPCI adapter so I can put radio cards in a machine with just PCI slots. I also need 1 USB port. I want to some other that has to have the radios in a Windows machine. One of those is inSSIDer which along with a GPS receiver will plot signal strength to location as I drive down the road. On 1/4/2011 7:48 PM, Robert West wrote: What the heck you using a PCI slot for on a survey? I thought I was the weird one! I use a simple piece of crap netbook that cost me zilch and plug the radios into the RJ45 jack. I would think anything permanently mounted in a truck isn't going to show you the viability of an install 20 feet up on the roof. Unless, of course.. Never mind, secret. By the way, I think I killed a bunch more birds with my broadband mind control experiments. These 12 bit Quad antennas are just a mess. Need to adjust something, just don't know what yet. Moving on Jim- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
I can do those things (Kismet + GPS) in a $40 router with OpenWRT on it but anything running Windows is going to be used or not in that price range. On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote: OK, after reading a bunch of responses, let's try again. I am looking for a low-cost, like sub $200 computer that will run off 12VDC directly and will run Windows. It needs a PCI slot or at least 3 mPCI slots. I have a PCI to mPCI adapter so I can put radio cards in a machine with just PCI slots. I also need 1 USB port. I want to some other that has to have the radios in a Windows machine. One of those is inSSIDer which along with a GPS receiver will plot signal strength to location as I drive down the road. On 1/4/2011 7:48 PM, Robert West wrote: What the heck you using a PCI slot for on a survey? I thought I was the weird one! I use a simple piece of crap netbook that cost me zilch and plug the radios into the RJ45 jack. I would think anything permanently mounted in a truck isn't going to show you the viability of an install 20 feet up on the roof. Unless, of course.. Never mind, secret. By the way, I think I killed a bunch more birds with my broadband mind control experiments. These 12 bit Quad antennas are just a mess. Need to adjust something, just don't know what yet. Moving on Jim- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
Lots of stuff here: http://www.mini-box.com/site/index.html Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer OK, after reading a bunch of responses, let's try again. I am looking for a low-cost, like sub $200 computer that will run off 12VDC directly and will run Windows. It needs a PCI slot or at least 3 mPCI slots. I have a PCI to mPCI adapter so I can put radio cards in a machine with just PCI slots. I also need 1 USB port. I want to some other that has to have the radios in a Windows machine. One of those is inSSIDer which along with a GPS receiver will plot signal strength to location as I drive down the road. On 1/4/2011 7:48 PM, Robert West wrote: What the heck you using a PCI slot for on a survey? I thought I was the weird one! I use a simple piece of crap netbook that cost me zilch and plug the radios into the RJ45 jack. I would think anything permanently mounted in a truck isn't going to show you the viability of an install 20 feet up on the roof. Unless, of course.. Never mind, secret. By the way, I think I killed a bunch more birds with my broadband mind control experiments. These 12 bit Quad antennas are just a mess. Need to adjust something, just don't know what yet. Moving on Jim- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer
ultimate? No WEP/WPA cracking, no mitm ap spoofing, no cookie sniffing, etc etc What Scott seams to really want is a 20/40mhz survey rig with a graph. That can be done from kismet drones ran on any supported hardware (RBs are supported) On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Sounds like the ultimate war driving vehicle! Cool on so many levels -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:21 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer OK, after reading a bunch of responses, let's try again. I am looking for a low-cost, like sub $200 computer that will run off 12VDC directly and will run Windows. It needs a PCI slot or at least 3 mPCI slots. I have a PCI to mPCI adapter so I can put radio cards in a machine with just PCI slots. I also need 1 USB port. I want to some other that has to have the radios in a Windows machine. One of those is inSSIDer which along with a GPS receiver will plot signal strength to location as I drive down the road. On 1/4/2011 7:48 PM, Robert West wrote: What the heck you using a PCI slot for on a survey? I thought I was the weird one! I use a simple piece of crap netbook that cost me zilch and plug the radios into the RJ45 jack. I would think anything permanently mounted in a truck isn't going to show you the viability of an install 20 feet up on the roof. Unless, of course.. Never mind, secret. By the way, I think I killed a bunch more birds with my broadband mind control experiments. These 12 bit Quad antennas are just a mess. Need to adjust something, just don't know what yet. Moving on Jim- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:28 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Looking for a low-cost computer I am looking for a low-cost computer that will operate on 12-volt DC (vehicle power) directly and will run windows. It needs at least 1 PCI slot or 3 mPCI slots. I want to permanently mount it in my truck to do site surveys, etc. Any suggestions? -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Scott Reed Owner NewWays Networking, LLC Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration Mikrotik Advanced Certified www.nwwnet.net (765) 855-1060 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a 5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
How are the NanoBridges? I haven't started using them yet but suggest Liam give them a try and replace the NanoStations he's been using. But he's doing 2.4 so the gain isn't as great on the 2.4's. Any experience with the 2.4 flavor over the Nano? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 12:02 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Not sure where you are going to be able to run 3x sectors on 40Mz channels - at least not where people are. In my fairly noisy area MIMO's strength is the ability get 20-25Mbps on a 10MHz channel - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 6:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I would utilize that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Doing the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a 5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the
Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna
Initially beam steering will be 5Gig. Might be a while for 2.4 flavor - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I would utilize that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Doing the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since I've been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but it's the single polarity. With a 5.8 system it's important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I got a quote for 170 each ordering Qty 3ea - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:39 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna First time with my eyes. Looks impressive though. Design reminds me of an old Andrews configuration except for that bonus Mechanical slide that the Andrews never had except for a big $$ addition. I really like the 130 degree beam width which would fix my issues with the 120 degree UBNT sectors not quite getting there. Hm.. What are the price points on these dudes? Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.orgmailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 6:32 PM To: motor...@afmug.commailto:motor...@afmug.com; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna any experience with these? Any good? http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/ARC-VS5818SV1_DS_091409.pdf [cid:image001.jpg@01CBACD4.3F90A780] No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3358 - Release Date: 01/04/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgmailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
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Right. I don't use any 2.4 in PtMP, only localized access. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:29 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote: Initially beam steering will be 5Gig. Might be a while for 2.4 flavor - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:25 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I believe the Beam Steering AP will only come with GPS, but yes, I would utilize that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 2:20 PM, Robert West wrote: Doing the new GPS Sync on the AP in order to go 40mhz wide? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Those are just Ubiquiti AirMax systems, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 10:46 AM, Robert West wrote: 40mhz channel width on all radios? Licensed or non? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna 300 meg association rate, closer to 130 - 150 actual throughput, at the AP, not at the CPE. I'd say probably no more than 30 customers per AP. You might have usable throughput at the end of that. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 8:14 AM, Robert West wrote: 300mbps to cpe? I wish! What mix of equipment are you using? Logically the technology needs to ultimately be able to deliver up to a Gig. I supposed White Space devices may eventually have that capability but at what cost? Would be a major bonus to be able to push that much data cheap enough to use for residential installs. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:01 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna I'm engineering everything to be able to deliver that kind of performance going forward. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/4/2011 7:05 PM, Robert West wrote: Well, the math says that since Ive been installing 4 UBNT 120 degree sectors to give the right coverage from an AP at a cost of 600 bucks, 3 of these would only equal 510 plus tax. The difference would pay for shipping easily. The bonus, hard to say it, but its the single polarity. With a 5.8 system its important to me to be able to separate polarity between the backhaul and the AP. Man, I really wish UBNT would have the firmware option to turn off one chain on the Rockets Who has a network that needs to deliver 300mbps (in a perfect world) to the customer? These look good. Who is stocking them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA]
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Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Yessir and with sync too. Jerry Richardson Sent Mobile On Jan 5, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Keep up, you must. http://www.3dbwireless.com/boyd/?p=238 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 1/5/2011 6:40 PM, Greg Ihnen wrote: Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Yep. Check 'em out! http://www.digdice.com/new-ubiquiti-airmax-products-pictures/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Better link. Has descriptions. http://www.digdice.com/ubiquiti-new-product-line/ -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 7:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] ARC-VS5818SV1 Antenna Steering APs from UBNT? Greg On Jan 5, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: It's all about how you engineer it. I'm not judging your installs because I don't know them, but I hear a lot of people using NanoStations at 5 miles. You won't have quality connections doing that. NanoBridge 22s and 25s are about all I'm looking to use for CPE. By the time I'm ready to start building out this year, the beam steering APs should be available. In suburban areas where there's more noise, there's also more towers, more customers, so your ranges are less. I'm expecting 5 - 7 miles. In the country, 10 - 15 miles. In my suburban areas, the noise can be up to -70. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
